got the wife a diff trike./ need help

[4cfed]

buddy was over lastnight and offered my his 83 yamaha ytm200 chain drive and $100 bucks for the wife atc200e.. she said sure.. its in nice shape. needs a seat cover and im having issues with the recoil ill get to that...

its got all new tires and always started on the second pull tell the recoil spring broke.

this is the picture of it from when i picked it up from his house

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/4cfed88/gthh.jpg




so i bought a recoil spring from fleet farm tonight and after fighting with it for a hour i gave up... is there a trick to these things im not getting?? i pulled it twice first time it worked fine but rope didnt recoil all the way back, second test pull and the sring came off again.. anyone got any tricks for them

[Kerick]

I found this thread i hope it helps
http://3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=79880&highlight=install+recoil+spring

[Twilight]

Send it to me I'll do it for free, send back fr free too

[85Tecate]

You have to "preload" the spring. You actually probably didnt even need a new spring. Depending on where it broke (usually the bent over tab that sits inside the recoil cover) you can heat it and bend a new tab and itll work perfectly fine. But since you have a new spring im assuming you assembled it correctly but forgot to give the recoil 4-5 turns to put tension on the spring first. I can do it for you for free if you want to send it, youd have to pay shipping both ways though. Its up to you.

I always wind the spring up as tight as i can get it in my hands first, then clamp vise grips to hold it from unraveling. Then sit it down inside the recoil cover and put the tab into position. Then i wind the new rope and pull it over to its slot. But the end i will melt so its firm and pointy. It makes it MUCH easier to get through the hole when your trying to get it back through.Then sit the recoil into the spring and twist it about 4-5 turns to tension the spring. Once the tension is on it and youre holding it tight, slowly turn it until you see the end of the rope. Use a very small screwdriver to feed the rope into the hole. Its hard if youve never done one, but once you get a few down its easy to do.

[4cfed]

hmm... seems like it should work out... i was trying to coil it up by hand than put it into the housing.. which as we seen failed!!

now that i look at the two parts of the old spring and the new spring.. im thinking the new one wont work... it done make its way into the center of the housing like the original one did

[Side Wayz]

Good luck with it hope everything works out for you. Bike looks nice.

[harryredtrike]

a benjamin,thats a deal

[83ATC185S]

http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/showthread.php?t=29209&highlight=recoil+rebuild

here ya go, this is how I rebuilt my pullstart ^^

Oh nice new ride btw!

[MonroeMike]

Looks like a good deal.

[Zach]

noone else said anything about it, but it looks like a nice clean trike

[greythorn3]

take a pic of the wife in a bikini on it!!

[4cfed]

take a pic of the wife in a bikini on it!!

wife had had two kids... one of which was a week ago.. i dont think a bikini is in her future for a bit lol

its not a bad machine except its can bombed.. when it got it it was can bombed camo ,

and it wil be aeven nicer machine once i can get this d*** recoil to work!! im gonna try with the old spring today ( it actually broke like 3/4 of the way threw the coil.. not a tab but 'in the middle'

[MonroeMike]

There's a manual for that here, if you don't have one.

http://72.52.143.80/~trikes/Manuals/ATC%20manuals/YamYTM200ServiceManual.pdf

[4cfed]

thanks.. unless im retarded i cant get the file to open.. for some reason it saves as a picture on my computer

[MonroeMike]

That one works for me, try this one.

http://72.52.143.80/~trikes/ytm200&225-fm200_clymer_manual.pdf

[4cfed]

well the recoil spring i bought WAS the wrng one.. the coil dont make its way towards the center of the recoil for the tab to grab onto the rope sprocket? .. looking online none of the springs listed look like what i bought.. turns out from what i could find the spring i bought is for a 2-12 hp briggs motor and there springs actaully hook into the rope hub..

found a few online, if i cant get one threw my local mom/pop style powersports shop ill have to order one..

guess tell than ill have to do it the hard way so the wife can ride today, put the rope hub onto the motor pull.. rewind and pull lol

[code200k]

ah the 200k fun machines..pretty tuff too.also they will beat a 200s in a race fyi..if you neeed parts hit me up i got a whole trike

[4cfed]

ah the 200k fun machines..pretty tuff too.also they will beat a 200s in a race fyi..if you neeed parts hit me up i got a whole trike

i do need a pull start ( im sick of messing with the one i have for it to get it to work and to the point of wanting to bolt something on and go)

[code200k]

p.m. me...

[hondahaulic]

you should be able to bend the hook of the spring around however it needs to be. A little heat might help but you shouldnt need it. If the yamaha spring is like hondas, all you need to do is bend the end into a hook with needle nose pliers. If the Fleet Farm spring is roughly the same length as the yamaha spring it should do the job fine.

[4cfed]

you should be able to bend the hook of the spring around however it needs to be. A little heat might help but you shouldnt need it. If the yamaha spring is like hondas, all you need to do is bend the end into a hook with needle nose pliers. If the Fleet Farm spring is roughly the same length as the yamaha spring it should do the job fine.


its hard to explain but i will try so bear with me

the honda/yammy recoil springs they way its coiled makes its way to the center of the 'case' . the briggs?? spring stays coiled against its self aince they hook to the housing than to the rope hub, where as the honda/yammy springs catch on the rope hub as you pull the rope

[hondahaulic]

i know what your saying, i had a problem with a honda spring that was bent once and it wouldnt reach to the center to hook. Could you go back a few inches on the inside end of the spring, and bend a curve in it so the end of the spring curves and then reaches to the center? This is what worked for me once. (thats the best i could explain it with words, hopefully it makes some sence)