Offroadvintage.com

[userj8670]

I know it has been mentioned here recently and was wondering if anyone bought any of thier stuff yet? I think its a tad overpriced? There is a NOS 250r (non flat track) gas tank...$720!! They have a tach set up for a 350x and i emailed him....$1250!!:crazy: I mean i realize this stuff is hard to find and nos but DAAAAAAAAAAAAAYUM! I really would like that tach but not for 1250 i will make and fab my own.

Jim

[harryredtrike]

yea,thats crazy talk.good luck to him

[250rfan]

I know it has been mentioned here recently and was wondering if anyone bought any of thier stuff yet? I think its a tad overpriced? There is a NOS 250r (non flat track) gas tank...$720!! They have a tach set up for a 350x and i emailed him....$1250!!:crazy: I mean i realize this stuff is hard to find and nos but DAAAAAAAAAAAAAYUM! I really would like that tach but not for 1250 i will make and fab my own.

Jim


:welcome: ,,,,,,,,Hi Jim.

Jim, am sure no one will be able to tell the difference between your tach and the OEM one once your finished:rolleyes:

Once you've nailed the Tach, can you start on the OEM tanks, i'll take 2.

[Dammit!]

Discontinued parts are worth what someone is willing to pay. Simple as that. If you think the prices are too high there's no need to make a thread about it. Just don't buy anything from them.

[ceaserthethird]

His stuff, His Price, don't like it, don't buy it!

Collector's Price!

[petesatc]

I know it has been mentioned here recently and was wondering if anyone bought any of thier stuff yet? I think its a tad overpriced? There is a NOS 250r (non flat track) gas tank...$720!! They have a tach set up for a 350x and i emailed him....$1250!!:crazy: I mean i realize this stuff is hard to find and nos but DAAAAAAAAAAAAAYUM! I really would like that tach but not for 1250 i will make and fab my own.

Jim
Hey Jim
if you don't like my prices then that easy DON'T BUY .....i sold the 81R and 82R tanks for alot more than $720 !!!!!!
i spent 10 years finding these parts , dealer buyouts from all over the world alot of time and effort!!!! and not to mention cash!!!!
i really don't care if i sell one part i never bought all this stock to make a profit they were going to be used to restore bikes... i now have a nice collection of mint bikes don't need the parts so if the price is right i will sell..... i don't need the money so they can stay there forever if no one buys......

Thanks
Pete

[DixiePlowboy]

I agree with you in principle, Pete, if you spent the money the parts are yours to do with what you please. But I sure hope that the poor and average 3-wheeling Joes are able to find aftermarket or used parts .....or have parts fabbed up......in spite of your buying up old dealer stocks all over the world.

When it becomes cheaper to restore the Titanic, a lot of us will do something else.

[dlgorie@yahoo.c]

$1250 seems insane for a tach. My near mint 350x I paid $1900

[sofranke]

Hey Jim
if you don't like my prices then that easy DON'T BUY .....i sold the 81R and 82R tanks for alot more than $720 !!!!!!
i spent 10 years finding these parts , dealer buyouts from all over the world alot of time and effort!!!! and not to mention cash!!!!
i really don't care if i sell one part i never bought all this stock to make a profit they were going to be used to restore bikes... i now have a nice collection of mint bikes don't need the parts so if the price is right i will sell..... i don't need the money so they can stay there forever if no one buys......

Thanks
Pete

Hi Pete,

I just wanna say thanks for giving everyone the option to buy and admire these vintage NOS parts, most of which have not been seen in decades. I'm sure those folks who feel the prices are too high, have scanned your site head to toe, admiring all the parts, brochures, bikes sourced, etc. My opinion is that new, hard-to-find, discontinued parts should be priced accordingly. I would certainly love to have my cabinets and drawers full of the parts you've spent years acquiring... I hope they're used to preserve the history of the sport we all love. Absolutely love it!

Great looking website!

Thanks again.
Eric

[200xman]

$1250 seems insane for a tach. My near mint 350x I paid $1900

It's all about supply and demand. The speedos are pretty common but I have only seen 1 tach in person. For the guy that wants a 100% bike that tach is the cherry on the top and is worth every penny. When you have new parts that are over 20 years old they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay. I give Pete credit for actually parting with some of his inventory. I know that there a lot of people out there that would rather horde parts like this than ever see someone else get them. Keep up the good work guys!

[userj8670]

Pete and others - Im sorry but the intent of this thread was not to get anyone upset or think that im putting anyone down. I definatly understand that stuff is hard to come by and it is what it is. I just simply had no idea that NOS stuff would bring that much coin. I was just shocked in short. Please dont take offense to it... Like someone mentioned they got a nice 350x for 1900...and then when you think you have a small part - the tach- for a little less it makes you just think how crazy it is that this parts can bring so much money.

[Autophysn]

well, What is cool about the guys high prices, is that it raises the values of all of our bikes, by uping the vintage value. If he can get what he is asking for, then my quality used stuff should be worth what? Half????

[88 Turbo Coupe]

I seen a NOS 81 250r swingarm on ebay sell for 10 bucks.

[Mosh]

WOW.
Nice professional website Pete.

Your prices seem pretty fair, or going rate to me. Those 200X seats for instance..Way fair prices on those. I saw some on EBAY fetch way higher than that for the 87 200x.
There are some things I would like to buy, but I just cant swing it right now.
I would love to nab one of those Brake line guides for a 85 R.

Remember this folks...

There is no more manufacture suggested list prices for these items in most cases..
Therefore, he can ask what he wants for them.
If you want it, you will pay it. Plain and simple.
It isn't like you can just jump on the next website and "price shop" against him.
These parts just do not exist anymore.At least not on every street corner.

Good luck with your new site Pete!

[vintagemotorsports]

exactley right mosh,
I personally know how long Pete has been collecting these parts and for the most part he paid top money for them so like he said he isnt in it for the money . I love how people get all upset over someones price on anything if you dont like it turn your head and walk away it is not for you then . It has been proven over and over again these types of parts can comand whatever price tag you put on them they are just that impossible to find . I have to explain this to people every week who email me for a price on a "showroom restoration" 86 250r for example and I quote them 15K . 5 out of 10 people email me back some nasty remark , but the other 5 understand what it takes to build a true showroom quality restoration this means as close as we can come to OEM Honda build specs right down to that last nut and bolt , these are the people that need these parts and I am more than thrilled to see pete is even offering them it takes alot of searching out of my job and i will never try to beat him up on any price he gives they are what they should be . I love the remark saying what about the poor 3 wheeler guy who wants to restore his trike my suggestion would be quality used parts or maier plastics if avalible you build within your means why should someone feel bad and drop prices on not hard to find parts but near impossible to find parts to help out a build that most likley wont ever be at the level these parts should be used on . no matter what the hobby is you will see these types of remarks when it comes to money , we all must rememeber these parts will NEVER EVER be offered again by any of the big 4 ever again and there are very few quality nos parts left .

[Dirtcrasher]

It really stinks that little by little our favorite sport will disappear........

The day that only people with allot of cash can own trikes, is a day I'll be very sad to see. Unfortunately, they are all I enjoy riding.

How long will MAIER be making fenders for? who knows. But when that ends, I guess trash can lids will be on the DC "list to do" :D

Until then, I'll still beat the snot out of mine and fix it as best I can; adapting newer parts as I go.

If 3 crate motors can't last me 25 more years, I have a problem :lol: By then, I'll be to old and sore to ride anyhow.

BTW, last year those 87 seats were available at 200$ a pop and I got 3 :D maybe there gonezo now :(

Those NOS parts are worth every dime to the people that want them, fortunately, I don't want them. But someday.......................................

[Frankencelery]

I know I'm probably going to draw the wrath of Pete and all his friends here, but userj8670, I'm with you, man.

Which came first, the super-rare parts, or the very small number of individuals hoarding them all so they *couldn't* be purchased anywhere else and these prices can be charged? Dunno, you tell me.

I'm just another guy just trying to keep my machines running without busting my wallet. I'll never be a mint-condition restorer, so maybe the concept is beyond me. But if it gets to the point that I'll need to spend 700 bucks for a gas tank, I'll say screw it and part out my trikes for a 500% profit.

The guy was just expressing his opinion and you all busted on him. That's the only reason I had to jump in.

[dlgorie@yahoo.c]

I understand how rare some of these parts are. I just can't believe they are pulling that kind of money. I guess I too am in another category. Kudos to Pete.... nice website with alot of nice stuff.

[i58829]

Well i hate to have an opinion here, but to anyone that hates the price of NOS items be glad you're not looking for an uncommon mopar part like 71 340 exhaust manifolds (i can't afford them used), let alone a very rare aftermarket only direct connection piece. Although the prices are out of my reach i think someone will pay it. How many NOS pieces are left? Also there are plenty of 'parts' machines floating around and the average joe that wants to ride his 3 wheeler isn't going to be looking for a rare NOS piece that costs a premium so he can install it, then swamp his machine in a pond and take pics of it dripping with mud...

[DixiePlowboy]

There is a chasm between collectors and people like me....between the people turning 3-wheelers into rich-boy "classics" and rarities(not all collectors are that way).....and the people that want to see them on the trails for 20 more years.

One group will inevitably cause the other to become extinct.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

Hey Pete, A little off topic but did you ever have a chance to scan that info for me for my Mugen resto??

[Zach]

Guys just like with restoring a classic car you can go the cheaper route (which most who drive their cars do) and get remanufactured parts or if you want original parts you pay big money for them because you want your restoration to truely be an original machine. For anyone that wants to take their trike out and really use it I am sure you dont need to buy original parts in near perfect condition, for your purpose you can go with the cheaper route and get most everything you need that has been remanufactured. If anything Pete is helping by finding the parts to put some machines back to factory condition.

By the way Pete that is a beautiful collection of ATCs and ATVs

[inv3ctiv3]

exactley right mosh,
I personally know how long Pete has been collecting these parts and for the most part he paid top money for them so like he said he isnt in it for the money . I love how people get all upset over someones price on anything if you dont like it turn your head and walk away it is not for you then . It has been proven over and over again these types of parts can comand whatever price tag you put on them they are just that impossible to find . I have to explain this to people every week who email me for a price on a "showroom restoration" 86 250r for example and I quote them 15K . 5 out of 10 people email me back some nasty remark , but the other 5 understand what it takes to build a true showroom quality restoration this means as close as we can come to OEM Honda build specs right down to that last nut and bolt , these are the people that need these parts and I am more than thrilled to see pete is even offering them it takes alot of searching out of my job and i will never try to beat him up on any price he gives they are what they should be . I love the remark saying what about the poor 3 wheeler guy who wants to restore his trike my suggestion would be quality used parts or maier plastics if avalible you build within your means why should someone feel bad and drop prices on not hard to find parts but near impossible to find parts to help out a build that most likley wont ever be at the level these parts should be used on . no matter what the hobby is you will see these types of remarks when it comes to money , we all must rememeber these parts will NEVER EVER be offered again by any of the big 4 ever again and there are very few quality nos parts left .

Couldn't have said it any better, finding parts for anything that is not made anymore is both expensive and very hard.

[Orangecnty250r]

It seems this argument is one that will always come up and that all the rationalizing in the world will never make people understand.

Pete's site is actually a dream for the hardcore collector who just has to have that perfect part....whether its ATC's vintage cars or a stickley mission light. (sure there are many who dont know what that is)....just because someone doesnt want or cant drop 3000.00 on a light doesnt mean their house is dark...or cant pick up a repro at walmart for 14.99.....In all areas of life there is the high end area and ATC's are no exception.

Let me put it this way ....I know where that tach came from....what it took to find it...how about several months of contacting every dealer in Canada...I know what he paid for it ....would barely profit anything...NOS ORIGINAL RARE is huge...people have searched for years for certain things and just cant find them....The parts he has are near extinct....translate that into the car collector world...all my years collecting I have NEVER seen a site like his!!!!!!

On the same note I think its natural for people to protect there investments...I paid big time for my TIGER stuff ...I get emails quite often for copies of my rare parts....do I want people copying my super rare TIGER parts... ...of course not... Is is hoarding...no ...simply collecting rare items for a one off collection. I tell people who work on my tiger stuff to keep it low key.......It was my investment of time and money for something no one else has. Is that bad NO....its smart....I dont care what kind of heat I take for that.

All kinds of 3 wheelers are everywhere....including real clean original riders, Plenty of parts...I dont buy the argument of pushing others out of the hobbie.

When I sell on ebay I get the hate mails....you'll never get this for that or someone saying its only worth 50.00 bucks....depends what mood im in or how busy I am that day but I love it when I have there email and can blast right back with docuumentation of what parts have sold for.

Bottom line whether its ATC parts...cars....or vintage barbie dolls...rare means big$$$ ....no you know ....and more power to you for making your own tacho....thats great.!!!!!..just not HONDA GREAT....you may have heard of HONDA.......... the billion dollar company.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

Pete. Too bad there's probobly no more than 500-600 ATC enthusiasts world wide. If this were RARE NOS car stuff it would have been gone long time ago. (I know, I look for this stuff too) Good luck with the site and keep findin those parts!!

[Orangecnty250r]

Pete. Too bad there's probobly no more than 500-600 ATC enthusiasts world wide. If this were RARE NOS car stuff it would have been gone long time ago. (I know, I look for this stuff too) Good luck with the site and keep findin those parts!!

Never thought about how many of "us" were out there

[DixiePlowboy]

All kinds of 3 wheelers are everywhere....including real clean original riders, Plenty of parts...I dont buy the argument of pushing others out of the hobbie.




There was a time the same could be said of classic Mustangs. I passed up a clean original daily driver '67 Fastback for $1600 back in 1989. A buddy of mine gave $2000 for a nice '72 Mach 1 the same year. What do they go for now? I know of rusted bodies(hulls) that can't be bought for those prices around here. A lot of people have been pushed out of the classic car scene by the money.

The same thing has been happening to the 3-wheeler market since the advent of E-bay.

Guess it's just natural, though. I say more power to those that can afford the resto/show pieces. It's not like I wouldn't like to have a replicated 1985 Honda showroom in my living room....lol. I'd never need a TV again.

Problem is, I would still want to ride them like I did when I was a kid sitting on the new 3-wheelers in the showroom.:)

[Dirtcrasher]

Just like the disappearance of the middle class, sooner or later the average guy will have a tough time assembling a nice trike.

Someday a MAIER fender may bring 2000$..........

I think most of us plan on keeping ours, but the economy can force otherwise and into the hands of wealthier people......

I'll say this; I will lose my home before I lose my animals and or my trikes :)

[inv3ctiv3]

Pete. Too bad there's probobly no more than 500-600 ATC enthusiasts world wide. If this were RARE NOS car stuff it would have been gone long time ago. (I know, I look for this stuff too) Good luck with the site and keep findin those parts!!

I am sorry but that is just a ridiculous thing to say.....500-600? PLEASE that is a laughable number there are 6,692,030,277 (2008) people in the world and 528,720,588 in North America and you mean to tell me there are only 500-600 enthusiasts? Come on. ATC's were HUGE in the 80's and plenty of people still ride/love them.


BTW I just checked the member list of this website, there are well over 7,000 members on this board alone so your 500-600 thing has already been smashed away.

[200xman]

I am sorry but that is just a ridiculous thing to say.....500-600? PLEASE that is a laughable number there are 6,692,030,277 (2008) people in the world and 528,720,588 in North America and you mean to tell me there are only 500-600 enthusiasts? Come on. ATC's were HUGE in the 80's and plenty of people still ride/love them.


BTW I just checked the member list of this website, there are well over 7,000 members on this board alone so your 500-600 thing has already been smashed away.

By enthusiast he means people who are the serious collectors. The kind of people that will pay top dollar for a perfect resto. I can think of only a dozen or so people on this site that would fall into that category. I think 5-600 might be a little high even.

[SeaBass8]

I've never been disappointed with the condition of an NOS part. I cant say the same for the used parts I've spent good money on.

BikeBandit wants $900 for the 1987 200X rear shock. $250 seems pretty good to me.

[inv3ctiv3]

By enthusiast he means people who are the serious collectors. The kind of people that will pay top dollar for a perfect resto. I can think of only a dozen or so people on this site that would fall into that category. I think 5-600 might be a little high even.

Guess he should have said that cause he only said ATC enthusiasts which = way more then 500-600. And I'd still like to believe there are more then 500 people out there that are "true enthusiasts."

[honda250sx]

At what point do you have to be serious. I thought I was serious when I thru probably $7 grand into a tri-z. I will have a ton in my T3 too. I mean I may not build vintagemotorsports caliber stuff. Or I may not have a mini tiger factory. No offense to either guy. I mean I think that's pretty serious. For the majority of the blue collar guy on these boards who kill them selves each day to make a buck and for them to pinch some cash here and there sink a $100 here, $200 there into there trike. I think thats pretty serious.

[blue27]

all good comments, but my take is this. Petes parts are what they are and are intended to be used for restorations. By this I mean by builders that intend to "restore"(the act of restoring or state of being restored, as to a former or original condition) a trike. IF you need a part for a "rider" then off to eBay and get a good used part and refinish it. If to rebuild you trike and use it or modify it then it is not a restoation and you do not need a 1200 tach and you could use a nice aftermarket or used unit. Thanks to Pete for making parts available. There are very few reproduction parts out there that are up to original specs so finding NOS is the way to go for a restore.