200s no start

[NotStock]

Well i got my first trike today, 82 200s. Its sat about a year since it last ran, I cleaned the old fuel, water and rust from the fuel tank. cleaned the line to the petcock, cleaned that also. Fuel flows very well out of the tank now. Pulled the carb apart, cleaned it. has spark and comprision but still wont start. Any ideas? you can pull allday and it doesnt even sound like its trying to start. tryed choke on and off. Thanks for any help.

[jbmatt]

Try some starter fluid to see if you are getting any fuel through the carb. The timing could be off.

[JoeyStacks]

Try some starter fluid to see if you are getting any fuel through the carb. The timing could be off.

or recheck you carb by taking it apart again . Ive had the floats get stuck closed for no apparent reason before. If the carb dont have any fuel in it there is your problem

[NotStock]

turns out somthing in the starter is broken and the compression release isnt working properly. we unhooked it and it fired right up. I really didnt think that 200cc would that much power, had a hard time keeping the front wheel down and im not a lightweight.

[MonroeMike]

Honda didn't make a 1982 200s.

[Mr_RPM]

Honda didn't make a 1982 200s.

lmao, your right i didnt even see that.

[NotStock]

its just a ATC 200? Been a hole new learning experiance these past few days. Guy i bought it off of told me it was a 200s, i also questioned the amount of compression it had when you pulled it over, he said its been like that for the last 10years hes owned it. Had a buddy in to bikes come over last night and we unhooked the compression release cable and it fires 1st pul now. Also, were the header meets the muffler. Its rotted away and not worth fixing. Im going to make my own pipe and buy a new muffler, is there any gain in steping the pipe up a little or leave it the stock size? As i get more comfortable riding it all be doing more tune up parts down the road.

[MonroeMike]

Put the VIN in here, to figure out the model.

http://atcvin.webs.com/

[mopar_man]

Sounds like you had the exact same thing that happened to me, happen to you. I wouldn't even worry about connecting the decompression cable back up. As for the exhaust, check on eBay. I got a complete system for roughly $20 shipped. If I remember right, it came off of an '85 200s.

[Yamaha_Rules69]

A slightly larger diameter headpipe, and a more free flowing muffler will be a noticeable increase. That is what aftermarket systems are made like. You may have to jet your carb a little richer on the main jet after modifying the exhaust or intake system.

[Mr_RPM]

but if your using a stock engine your going to want some back pressure in the exhaust, otherwise you will lose alot of your low end power and the high end power on a stock engine is kinda wimpy, now if u had a diff cam maybe a higher comp piston and some port work, less back pressure is what u want.
so basically make sure its not too open, a little more than stock but not to much. i have ran open headers (no muffler, just a strait tube in its place) and it made it way slower in the low end, wheelie range

[NotStock]

Do they stamp the vin on the frame anywere? the VIN plate is long gone. Ive hurd CR200 intake and carb are a step up from the ATC ones. Is it worth swaping them over?

[MonroeMike]

Check the frame neck, there's a pic in the link.

http://atcvin.webs.com/

[NotStock]

Decoding Results: 1982 ATC 200

Getting off topic some what. How do the clutches in these bikes work? i was expecting to see a cable clutch. Does it work like a GM limited slip diff? Sorry if its a bad example, wrenchin is in my blood and what i do every day so i usally relate back to somthing i know from that when im leaning somthing new.

And thanks for your help, took some pics of it today ill post up in a bit.

[mopar_man]

There's two clutches. One is a centrifugal clutch (weights spin out to engage as the engine RPM goes up). The other is called a change clutch. When you shift gears, there's levers and arms inside that disengage/engage a clutch pack like a traditional manual clutch.

[Mr_RPM]

the main clutch also uses like 4-6 disks with steal plates between each one (depending on model) unlike most cars that use 2. this allows for the clutch to be much more rugged and take a beating.