new loyalty for the 2-stroke

[jeffs250Russell]

you see..I had 200X on a 88acer farm when i was in my teens and those are some of the best memories of my life. Now I'm in my late 30's and really just got my 1st 250R (got holeshot tires like 4 days ago) I used to think 2-strokes were all about high RPM's. I have found that is not true,they do have a low end, and a quite exciting one at that..anyway question beeing...do i need a spring compresser to change the swingarm to frame bushings??

[DixiePlowboy]

Spring compressor?

Not sure how anything like that could be used in changing swingarm bearings. I have used as little as a ratchet/socket, hammer, and maybe a chisel to change them in the past. Some, in these later days, need a bit of heat to get the swingarm pivot out, but nothing comes to mind that could fit your description.

[jeopardy98]

I think he means a hydraulic press and no they are not necessary by any means but they do make it easier.

[Yamaha_Rules69]

The first thing that came to mind for me when he mentioned the spring compressor was somthing to do with the rear shock. If this is the case, you do not need it to take the shock assembly off, and dont even need one for a job like removing the rear spring from the shock if you were doing a shock rebuild. Im not sure if a press would be able to get the old bushing out or not, because there is a "step" that the back side of the piviot bearring rests against. To get mine out, I tried soaking it for a few days with PB, and also tried a propane torch, hamer and chissel/punch, and no go. I ended up bringing it to a machine shop, and they used a large drill press and drill bit, slightly larger than the outside races of the bearring, since all the balls and inner race fell out from me beating it. Anyways, when the drill got down 1/2 to 3/4 the races spun out with the bit. The man charged me $20, which wasnt too bad. Yours may come out easier when you get down to them. I replaced my old bushings and end caps with a nylon plastic material I purchased from a member (x.system) here on the boards. They work GREAT, and havnt given me one problem. Let us know how things are going with your machine! Good luck!

[JohnR.]

I'm not sure what the lip is that you're speaking of. I've ton a bunch of 85/86 250R pivot bearings and just knocked the old ones out and the new ones in. A couple of times it required a little heat but usually a socket that was just a little bit smaller than the hole in the swinger, an extension, and a hammer were all that was needed.

[DixiePlowboy]

^^^^same here, but the last R I changed swingarm bearings in was back in the '80's, so I expected that they may be a bit more difficult nowadays....what with the passing of a couple more decades.

[Yamaha_Rules69]

Well I guess I was in the wrong then if it dosnt rest against a step. Mine was on a 85 200x, and I figured the 250r would be similar, but now see that I was wrong and why, because the 250r uses the pivot that runs through the back of the motor. Sorry for any mis-leading ideas. ---- Jon.

[jeffs250Russell]

Thanks to all who posted. I have about 1/8 of play in it. And yes i was talking about if I need something to compress the mono shock on reassembly. btw I am gonna purchase one more trike in aug. of this year. either a 200x or 350X, did any other manufactures make trikes like those?

[AngusJustice]

Kawasaki and Yamaha both made some good trikes same with tiger here is some pics 4 u.

http://www.ratemyatv.com/atc/1986%20Yamaha%20Tri-Z.jpg

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/1986-kawasaki-tecate-KXT250B.jpg

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/oldsite/files/Tigerpics/Tiger200.jpg

Mind you these are 2 strokes. More like your 250R

I Think Once you ride a Honda 350 X ATC you]ll never want to ride anything else one of my all time favorites to ride.
After the 85 250R Mind You. LOL

[ATC185guy]

whoah, never seen a tiger three wheeler befor, i wonder how rare they are

[matt86200x]

very, very rare

[JohnR.]

You won't need to do anything with the shock.

I wouldn't call the Tiger, Tecate, or Tri-Z very similar to a 200X or 350X. Those two machines were probably the only four strokes back then with that much suspension under them.

John