Nicholson's 500x

[motoman1012002]

Hey guys i was wonder what kinda of rear bearing carrier is being used in this bike im thinking about building a frame and build one. Heres the link its the second pic. It say everything ealse that they uses but what kinda of carier is that. http://www.3wheelerworld.com/images2/ATC5002.jpg

Thanks Guys

[MR ATC]

it was part of the frame/swingarm kit. made by Nicholson himself

i wish Billy still had the picture i sent him of his second generation 500X using 200X parts and bodywork. it was also raced by team Honda.

[Jeb]

I'm not sure. but the carrier and disc look allot like 84/85 KXT. Though I think that article predates the Tecate?????? caliper is defintely not KXT.

[motoman1012002]

I want to build one a local junkyard has got 2 82 250rs one is almost complet so i can get the front end off one of them cheap and i was think of using the total rear end off one of the bikes so i wouldnt have to buy a shock and axle. and find a bearing carrier

[MR ATC]

I'm not sure. but the carrier and disc look allot like 84/85 KXT. Though I think that article predates the Tecate?????? caliper is defintely not KXT.

jeb the artical is from Dec. 82. like i said the carrier is made by Nicholson. if Billy still has it i also sent him a pic of the NIcholson advertisement for the frame. it shows the carrier in it. i'm not sure about the rotor but the caliper is a nissin/Honda

[motoman1012002]

yeah but in the frame article all it says is the fame shock and swing arm for 625 it doesnt say anything about a carrier

[MR ATC]

trust me i'm the one that sent him the artical. the carrier is considered part of the swingarm. i remember when this frame came out and the advertisements the carrier was with it as a package.

[motoman1012002]

Ok well thats cool thanks MR ATC for the help and say i was goign to build this what would i use as a bearing carrier then

[MR ATC]

use whatever carrier goes with the swingarm you plan to use. personally i would not recomend a 81/82 250R chassie as a starting point. if anything i would recomend a 83/84 250R or 85/86 350X if you are looking at an existing chassie to use. myself i would build it from scratch and use an 86 ATC 250R swingarm setup

[motoman1012002]

Im going to build a chassis but i dont know what kinda of swing arm to use and shock the olny reason i was going to use the 81 r is cause i could get it chaep

[motoman1012002]

MR ATC what about buying this from 200x basket and use it as a swing arm http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=11909

[MR ATC]

that would be a much better investment.

if you do get it to make the most of it try to put the top shock mount in the same position as on the 86 250R. getting the measurements won't be hard but if you can't i will try to get them for you myself

[motoman1012002]

would it be beter to go with a exented arm or stock length

[MR ATC]

personally i think 6" is too much, but for a 500 the stock 250R would be a little short for my liking.

[motoman1012002]

Is the 305x and 250r arm the same length cause on HONDAATC its looks to be ok. But im going to build a frame so i dont know.

[Billy Golightly]

As crappy as mine is running (Carb related) I could tell that its definetly going to be wheelie happy with the stock 350X swingarm. I think a 2-3+ Would be about perfect.

[motoman1012002]

Hey Honda where did you get your motor inlandatv has got a runner for 600 and its a 79 model i was think of making a 400 ofer to him but did you buy yours a a runner or did you rebuild yours.

[motoman1012002]

Right this is what im think buy the front end off that 250r and rear brakes and then find a total complet rear end off the 86 250r or 85 and then get the motor. ANd what kinda of shcok would be the Best i see honda your useing a cr500 how much did that pretty one cost you.

[Billy Golightly]

I rebuilt mine. I had a motor I started off with that I got in a bunch of parts. And about 2 other motors later (Bought them mostly for other parts I needed) I got one running. My carb is utter garbage, and is why I'm not done. What makes it tricky is, the throttle control cables mount on the side of the carb, and my gas tank sits VERY close to the top of the carb now. So, I have to find another sidemount throttle controlled carb. Despite what some people say, the XR motor is ALOT larger then a 350X motor and even with my modified frame things are still very tight.

I'm not running CR500 setup yet unfourtantly...I got the Progressive shock on closeout from Dennis Kirk for $100 shipped to my doorstep which is a killer price, Progressive doesn't make those shocks anymore. I have the modifications to my CR500 inverted forks complete, but I haven't had the paitence to sit down and put them back toghether yet. Getting the dust seal and the oil seal for the forks into the housing on the out the outer-tube has proved to be a bigger chore then I had figured...

There was a brand new NOS 79 XR500 motor on ebay just a month or so ago that I personally bid on..but unfourtantly was outbid by about $10. It happens I guess. I think my top bid was like 550 or something, it went for close to $600. If you can find that auction I'd tell the guy at inland about it and show him a brand new NOS went for that, you should be able to get a used one for cheaper.

[motoman1012002]

I will be looking out for one

[motoman1012002]

I think I will start this winter and gett most of the parts i need and start building it. hope fully I will have a motor by then and i can start making a frame for it. And i can build a rolling chassis the dissamble the motor and bore it out and put a bigger cam and some other stuff.

[MR ATC]

here is a frame for you

[motoman1012002]

Yeah Thats a nice 400x project of yours what about your rear end off of it the shcok swing arm axle carrier. the whole rear end ow much much are you asking for that

[motoman1012002]

Are you parting out the 400x

[MR ATC]

yes for the right price.

[motoman1012002]

Whats your email so we can talk or do you want to list a price right here

[motoman1012002]

I would like to have the whole rear end off that bike and what motor where you going to put in that bike

[MR ATC]

you got the money, you got the parts. i was building a 400 based on a 350X motor

[motoman1012002]

So what price are we looking at

[MR ATC]

read your PM's

[motoman1012002]

Check your pm please

[200x Basket]

i dont think most people realize how much $$$$ you have tied up in that chassis.

[MR ATC]

i know they don't you should see some of the offers i get :rolleyes: i probably will never sell it because i'm not gonna give it away.

[motoman1012002]

I think hes got a nice bike and lots of money in it but arent the fenders and tank gone check your Pm MR ATC

[ATC crazy]

I've got about $800....but thats about what you are asking for the frame alone right? I just might be interested if no one else clames it. :rolleyes:

[MR ATC]

I think hes got a nice bike and lots of money in it but arent the fenders and tank gone check your Pm MR ATC


the rear fenders, seat, air scoops, guages, and seat latch are the only things sold so far.

[motoman1012002]

Hey MR ATC did you check your PM box

[motoman1012002]

Thank you MR ATC