$2000 to fix my 83' R. What do you think?

[Yamaha Tri-Moto]

I recently brought it to a shop to see what was wrong with it and as i suspected the engine is pretty much beat crank, piston etc. there is already $400 into it to find out what was wrong with it. The total cost including tax would be $2000. What do you think. I could buy another one but could end up back in the same spot again. At least this way ill know it will be done right and will last a long time, plus i already have to pay $400 just to pick it up. Opinions anyone.

[oldskool83]

they on earth is all wrong with it for $2000,they better gold plate that motor. im think your getting ripped. why do you need to pay $400 to pic it up?

[jeffatc250r]

Someone is trying to bone you HARD. $400 for them just to break it down enough to find a bad conn. rod is B-S. It is literally a 20 min job to take the jug off. Ask em for the breakdown on what this $400 job entailed. I personally wouldnt pay it, then again I have never brought something to a dealer either.

[cattle-dog]

i thin i saw a 250 r engine rebuilt on here for $700 with your old one for a core, i think i would go that way and install the engine yourself,its easy to do

[jeffatc250r]

A crank re-rodding should be about 150
bore job and piston under 200
crank bearings 50
gaskets 50
Thats really about it, so long as everything else is good. A decent mechanic should be able to do that whole entire job starting with the whole bike in under 7 hrs so long as everything goes smooth.
I fail to see how they could possibly come up with 2g's.

[code200k]

whats the shop hourly rate?

[TheRealFatShady]

That's ridiculous. Locally, we have some guys that do free estimates, not $400 estimates (hell, that is more than I PAID for my three wheelers), and that whole job could be done for a few hundred. Tell them if they want to bone men that hard, go to prison.

[Dirtcrasher]

Any air cooled engine is a piece of cake. 1,5 hours in and out, unless bolts break..............

But, they don't budge on 80$ an hour labor and maybe they want 400$ just to rebuild the crank?? Who knows.

Then there are gaskets/ o- rings and whatever else is still available, maybe 75$??

Then there is a bore,hone and a piston kit, maybe another 150-200$??

Main bearings, every tranny bearing (is that in the quote?) another 200$ or so.....

Couple hours to split and re-assemble.

400$ to break it down like and merely diagnose the problem like Jeff said is WAY too much...............

I'd imagine it's closer to about 1000$-1200$ to rebuild that thing back to the 25yo reliability.

Your crank just needs the rod kit, the halves are good. Any experienced shop can press in that rod pin and true it up in an hour IMHO, but I have seen flat rate charges of about 75$ to replace and true a crank without parts. Then you add the cost of the rod kit.......

It's tough for you guys. I've won entire NOS 350X motors for 730$, and I know that there apples and oranges. But 2000$ is far high IMHO........

I'd do as much as I can myself, and let the shop rebuild the crank and bore the cylinder if needed. Not to mention that 2000$ doesn't even blast and PC or paint the cases!!

You can by a 20 ton press to install bearings for 200$, V blocks for another 15$ and a decent magnetic base indicator setup good enough for what you do for another 50-100$

I like investing in tools rather than paying for labor myself.....................

[Yamaha Tri-Moto]

they put 4 1/2 hrs. into it to break it down. It needs a new crank kit which honda does not make anymore so they found a new crank kit that they can rebuild. The parts alone are 700$ bearings, rings piston bore. There was metal shavings in it so it was pretty beat. That price is a discount to because we bought numerous quads and motorcycles there, a Thundercat last week. At least it should last a long time.

[matt86200x]

where is canada are you haha i had an aircooled 81 250r that was the first engine i ever tore down and rebuilt myself just by using the manual. fairly easy to do

[200XMichigan]

It seems like a crazy amount of time breaking it down. Thats hard to explain. But I guess parts are more in Canada, so maybe a $1200 rebuild is $2000 over there. Does the $2000 include the $400 for just picking it up?

But if I had the money and was not mechanically inclined I would pay to have the motor professionally rebuilt, instead of getting another one that's going to need work too, might not be long before the other one will need some engine work. Treat it right and you'll get years of trouble free riding on it.

[Yamaha Tri-Moto]

ya the 2000 would be the total including the 400 for tear down after taxes. After reading all the posts and estimates for parts I can see how all the things add up but the labor is where half of that is. I guess ill just look at it like im starting from scratch with a whole new engine. Thanks guys.

[oldskool83]

you cant get cranks for air foolers anymore?

[rdlsz24]

$2000 is a discounted price? :wondering

You could buy a minty fresh liquid R for that, especially in this economy.

Rob

[Yamaha Tri-Moto]

wont find a nice 250 liquid r around here for that. Won't know how long it would last or how much wear and tear it has on it either i guess.

[200XMichigan]

The way I see it is, its Canada, the R (from what I here) is almost impossible to find. You don't rebuild engines, and you have the money to fix it. And no one can really tell you what a fair price is because all the prices people listed are local to where we live. Yeah the tear down time is long. But if the engine hasn't been apart in 20 years, then maybe there were some bad bolts there. Who know. You'll get a new engine, there will be a 250R still alive in Canada. And that's cool. I'm not trying to justify a $400 tear down, just that basically there are only 3 choices when your machine takes a crap:
1. Fix it yourself
2. Pay someone to fix it
3.Give up on it

And well who gives up on an R.

But I would say with those prices pick up a beater trike and learn wrenching. It would be a good project next winter. But that's just me. But as much as I love wrenching there are days when I just want to ride and would love to be able to just take my trike in somewhere and say, "Make it new, I feel like riding today."

[pmktm]

I know where there is a 85 & 86 for sale that are not beaters. But every one wants to spend money
and time doing a fixer upper? Go figure eh.:wondering

85
http://turnsleft.smugmug.com/Other/ATVs/IMG0088/519366031_Qvhh4-M.jpg

86
http://turnsleft.smugmug.com/Other/ATVs/IMG0086/519360571_2g6SZ-M.jpg

[Tecate250]

Tri moto Where are you from? The 250r in canada is not rare at all. I have owned 3 1/2 (1982, 1983, 1985 frame, 1986) atc 250rs and i dont look at all for them. Go get a clymer manual or get the one from here and do it your self. Bearing replacement is the hardest thing to do and if you take your time they go in fine. If you are local i can do it for you. I know where there are 4 other air cooled 250rs.

[Yamaha Tri-Moto]

Im from Ontario. I do have the clymer manual but only use it for small stuff. I told them to go ahead and fix it yesterday. I should have it back by the weekend and ill post how it turned out.

[86 350x]

hey where are you in canada? a few weeks ago I bought a 86 R with a good runnig motor, for just under a grand, rest of the bike needs work but not another grand

[zoomerman]

i have about $500 in parts ( i did the labour) into my 83 250r i replaced all the bearings/seals, connecting rod and top end.

[shadix518]

WOW 2000 is way to much for something you could do yourself for 1000-1200 but hope they do a good job and completely restore it for you too for that price.

[gomer202]

i got a liquid cooled 85R really hard to find where i am im on Vancouver island. i bought it for $1000 and then dropped a crate motor that i got from the states for $1400 and plus 2 cases to rebuild the 86 motor that was in it and now i have 2 motors my bike is all original the fenders are oem not maier only thing that isnt oem is the tires http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124621&d=1306284568
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124624&d=1306284671

[Kfx-xc-racer88]

they put 4 1/2 hrs. into it to break it down. It needs a new crank kit which honda does not make anymore so they found a new crank kit that they can rebuild. The parts alone are 700$ bearings, rings piston bore. There was metal shavings in it so it was pretty beat. That price is a discount to because we bought numerous quads and motorcycles there, a Thundercat last week. At least it should last a long time.

Dude they are trying to shaft you with the rough end of the pineapple!!!! take it from there and get someone else to build the motor and refit it yourself!!

they are taking the piss big style!

[hoosierlogger]

Dude they are trying to shaft you with the rough end of the pineapple!!!! take it from there and get someone else to build the motor and refit it yourself!!

they are taking the piss big style!

Check the date on this thread, Id say he has already been shafted and is now having nightmares from it.

[Kfx-xc-racer88]

I hope he didnt pay that!!!! just a stupid price!

[phantombiker]

Check the date on this thread, Id say he has already been shafted and is now having nightmares from it.

roflmmfao!!!!!