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hang&rattle
05-19-2010, 06:07 PM
85' 200x. Read the thread on how to remove axel bearings on 250r. Decided to attempt to change mine, Can't get them out and can't find a thread on the 200x rear bearings (I'm about as good on computer as I am a mechanic). Boogers are stuck in there, don't want to damage swing arm by continually beating on them, what's the trick. And yes I have tried to search this out, but was unsuccessful. Also now I can see the axel is slightly bent, how much wobble can I get away with? Thanks folks-
200XMichigan
05-19-2010, 06:13 PM
Preferably a drift punch. An aluminum bicycle seat post makes a great bearing removal tool. Make sure it is in good contact with the bearing and wham!!!!. But go around the bearing, in a sequence like you would tightening a head gasket. Smack the crap out of it till it comes out. If its rusting in there soak it for a while with some penetrating oil. But it should come out with a few good wacks. If it seems stuck its usually just crooked. It has to come out real even. How does the collar that was around the axle and between the bearings look? Mine was loose and wore a groove on the axle and inside the carrier. I left it out. It is supposed to be tight between the bearings but mine was too worn out.
hang&rattle
05-19-2010, 06:45 PM
Thank you 200xMichigan, I think you answered every thought I had (you probably thought the same you're 1st time too, huh?), I don't even know what a drift punch is, but I have an expensive cold chisel set that'll tap that out. The collar seemed snug between the bearings, not much wear on the axel. The All-balls set came with three rubber seals, what's the thicker one for? Is it safe without the collar? Will the new bearings go in o.k.? ( I have them in the freezer). & do I need to add grease or w-d? The manual doesn't answer the right questions, glad you are experienced, I suck royally at mechanicin'.
Walkerallen
05-19-2010, 07:26 PM
yes you need to pack the bearings with grease.
Yamaha_Rules69
05-19-2010, 09:15 PM
When you install them, first use a piece of wood, and lay it flat against the bearring, and tap it in until it is flush. After you get it flush, use a large socket or piece of pipe, same size of outside bearring. Dont hit the inside part of the bearring, or it will be damaged. I like to grease the swingarm inside, where the bearrings sit. Chances are, the bearrings you bought are sealed bearrings. You can carefully use a pick, or small screwdriver to pop one side seal off, it dosnt take much to get it and it goes right back together. The reason behind this is that they dont use nearly enough grease, and by packing grease in there, you will make the bearring last a LOT longer. Also, if you still cant get the old bearring out, heat the outside of the swinger, where the bearring sits, then give it a good wack. Good luck!!
hang&rattle
05-20-2010, 12:54 AM
Thanx Yamaha_Rules69 (your avatar freaks me & the kids out though lol), they came out easier after I tapped them square & even, getting them in wasn't half as bad as I thought, after pulling them out of the freezer they tapped in simply (but snug) with a rubber mallot, and did what you guys said, packed it all full of grease. That wasn't even that bad, I actually took my time and when the manual did'nt give the information I needed you guys walked me right through it, thanks guys, my decision to own trikes I think was right (I'm a terrible mechanic), but I'm not in this alone. Tomarrow I'm gonna put a new hub on the front tire & I think the axel should be sorta the same way.
200XMichigan
05-20-2010, 10:30 AM
Funny you mentioned your kit came with a third seal too. Must be for some other ATC or ATV that uses the same bearings. Never heard of any one packing sealed bearings. Did the seal pop off easy?
hang&rattle
05-20-2010, 10:43 AM
Yup, thanks. Jus' tapped it with a chisel in a circular motion and once it got to a certain point it popped right off (eventually, had to soak in oil). I did pack the axel shaft with grease, there is weep holes in the bottem I seen, & it had mud in there, so the grease will protect against the rust, mud, etc.. Had to wire wheel the rust out of the center (pain in the trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro). Plus it all went back together pretty easy that way, jus' messy. I see the bearing kit is for every atc/atv from 79' to 91', that seal better have been for something else I don't want to take it apart again, and I've already rode it a few miles!
200XMichigan
05-20-2010, 10:58 AM
Yeah that's the trick with bearings. Once you get it its easy.
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