old school 90/110 parts.

[KASEY]

i dug these up today,, also some stroker cranks,, i just might have to build a 110 someday ,,, i have alot of the wrenches if anyone wants a pair.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2myxj7c.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2qastci.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2i7lgdv.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/14n2wco.jpg

[Shorty]

The very first pic in your post isn't working.

[KASEY]

ok,, its working for me.

[Shorty]

ok,, its working for me.

Well its still not working for me. Could you just try and re-post that one pic?

[KASEY]

hmm fix something thats not broken???? doesn't that usually lead bigger problems?

[dcreel]

Works for me too.. I want to move to Arizona just so I can go to Bob's.. :-)

[Shorty]

Cool. Now its working. Got any pics of the stroker cranks?

[90crazy]

GREAT STUFF, anything for sale?

[Shorty]

GREAT STUFF, anything for sale?

Hey! thats the same thing I was going to ask.But I know I get FIRST DIBS ON the stroker CRANKS!

[KASEY]

the wrenches are $25 shipped for a pair,, the stroker cranks are not for sale yet,, i have to figure out what they are first.. there is 2 versions one is 58mm and one is 61.5 mm,,, i have several of the cams in the box,, and until i see how many h&s cams i can find,, those are going to hang on the wall..

[Xowner]

kasey will soon be on the show hoarders. i just hope i can get to his place befor the tv crews do to shoot the show

[shortline10]

Cool stuff .

The last motor I built with a 61.5mm stroker really suprised me how torky they are .

[Vealmonkey]

Well, the stroker cranks aren't worth much unless you either have stroker rods or you have spacer plates. I've also seen timing chains that were too tight when running the stroker plates, so you have to be aware of what you are doing.

[shortline10]

Your gonna need this to mate up the H&S cam and stroker LOL .
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160442612801&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123

Got any H&S decals you want to sell ? I could use a few

[KASEY]

I THINK THERE IS A CASE OF THOSE PISTONS IN THE BACK... wow thats alot for a old piston,.,, so if i have 20 of them i can buy another trike if i sell some!!! i was thinking alot less than that...

[Vealmonkey]

Are they just cranks or cranks with the right con rods as well???? And what size pistons?

[KASEY]

I WILL GET PICTURES... the crank is a complete unit crank new bearings and rod , ready to install,,, these were built by helm&sons back in the day... they are still in the original boxes. AND since its az no RUST!!

[shortline10]

I THINK THERE IS A CASE OF THOSE PISTONS IN THE BACK... wow thats alot for a old piston,.,, so if i have 20 of them i can buy another trike if i sell some!!! i was thinking alot less than that...

That piston kit has been for sale for a while now so dont get your hopes up . A realistic price on that should be around 65-75 bucks . Check and see if the kits have a 1 piece or 3 piece oil rings and what sizes they are 53-56mm .

[Vealmonkey]

I would be interested in a crank if you have several for sale. And congrats on your daughters engagement.

[KASEY]

BELIEVE ME I DO NOT INTEND TO try and GET RICH OFF THIS FIND. I am just excited to be able to have some old school parts and hope i can find enough to share with the community,,,

[motoman1012002]

Yeah like shortline said that kit has been on there for a while theres another pk kit on ebay as well for the same price, I would die for a stroker Im goin to go look at a 1980 110 today instead of this 83 I have

[Vealmonkey]

I know the members on here aren't aware of you superhuman abilities to find deals. I'm sure they have never seen a pile of fiberglass atc70 racing fenders either. Or mounds of aluminum wheels. Some of us know what you have found in the past though.

[KASEY]

ok here are a couple of pictures.. i think there are enough cranks for everyone that wants one ,, and the cam in the box,, there is 30 of those.. the h&s cams are the only and are already spoken for. i did find enough parts today to build me a stroker big bore motor,, so i was happy.. So i know what i have to pay for the cranks. i know they are old school. and i am not trying to get rich.. SO some of you guys that want one,,, PM me with what you think they are worth to you ,, and we will see if i can buy all of them at a lower price . there are 58 mm and 61.5 also cam chains in 86 and 88 links.. also can these cranks be used in a 125 m motor?

http://i49.tinypic.com/5ze9tc.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2jdl8om.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/wjhzr8.jpg

[honda250sx]

Kasey I'd love a set of them wrenches. Can you PM me please?

[shortline10]

These strokers are most likely for the points models and not cdi . Easy way to check it , points takes a bolt to hold the flywheel and the CDI uses a nut .
I dont think you could put one in a 125m for this reason also .
Any of those S&W valve springs gonna be for sale ?

[Vealmonkey]

Now if you really want to make me happy, tell me you found some heavy duty oil pumps!!!!

[greenhuman]

The 125M crank is different on the flywheel side in length and diameter (I am talking about the crank LOL).There is rod length issues as well.

[motoman1012002]

I like to have one of them cranks I pm'd you, this is sweet see all of the old 90/110 parts

[KASEY]

OK. I WENT OUT ON A LIMB HERE.. i made them an offer on all the cranks and cams.. they took it. so here is the scoop . the 58mm crank has a 14 mm wrist pin, the 61.5 has a 15 mm pin,, i will start fresh with PM'S so far no pistons .. i have 2 52mm pistons that fit the 14 mm wrist pins it says 90cc big bore on the box.. so what is 90 stock mm?

http://i46.tinypic.com/2a95zmb.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/34odit1.jpg

[shortline10]

Stock bore on a atc90 is 50mm and the stroke is 45.6mm .
Congrats on the score .

[Vealmonkey]

Kasey, not sure where I stand with the pm's, but I would take one of those 61.5mm cranks. I know what pistons have 15mm wrist pins.

[motoman1012002]

So like shortline said this would be a thumper motor

[shortline10]

So like shortline said this would be a thumper motor

If you get one of the 61.5 strokers don't expect a high rpm motor it will be a all tork and sound more like a 200x than a atc110 .

[Vealmonkey]

There are tricks to get them to rev a little more. It's all in the details.

[Walkerallen]

ok guys what are those wrenches used for?

[shortline10]

ok guys what are those wrenches used for?

Axle nuts the one that holds to the brake hub .

[Walkerallen]

oh ok i understand now.

[KASEY]

ok guys,, i am leaving for trikefest,,, i did aLOT OF SEARCHING TONIGHT,,, i was informed that there is a big box of pistons ,,standard and big bore ones,... we just have to find that box... but i did bring this home!! A CASE!!!!!! YEP...... I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS be home sunday,, all parts will go out monday with tracking numbers THANKS!!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2005xg6.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/wsjj0i.jpg

[KASEY]

anyone that wants them in the original box please PM me ... as its way cheaper to put them in a flat rate box... thanks

[Shorty]

Are those all NEW stroker cranks?! Man then I should maybe snatch all of em up then lol.

So how much much for all of em? lol

[90crazy]

Are those all NEW stroker cranks?! Man then I should maybe snatch all of em up then lol.

So how much much for all of em? lol
you mean all of them minus my 2 :naughty:

[motoman1012002]

and minus one of mine

[Vealmonkey]

So, those are stroker cranks for cdi engines? You will have to get one for me too. LOL And you'll have to explain more about the pistons. Any sleeves?

[shortline10]

So, those are stroker cranks for cdi engines? You will have to get one for me too. LOL And you'll have to explain more about the pistons. Any sleeves?

The strokers kasey is selling are for points motors 1980 and older .
Yeah were are all the star burst 61mm H&S cylinders at ?? Cant have all them strokers with no cylinders LOL .

[honda250sx]

I got one from that lot myself coming.

[motoman1012002]

your home time to get some goodies out

[KASEY]

i have thses 2 sets of triples, one gold anadized the other big al's these are a couple of duplicates ,,

http://i46.tinypic.com/xdb9rs.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/ajuvmc.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/t9i74j.jpg

[shortline10]

Nice what do you need to get for the gold ones and what is the tube size ? 31mm ?

[Xowner]

you lucky sob!

[KASEY]

you lucky sob!

you should know by now i am GOOD not lucky. :-)

[KASEY]

i have found a box of pistons.. the first box is all 200x big bore pistons.. 66 mm , 66.25 mm and 66.50 mm all kits with rings and pin. then a box of open pistons., here is a few flat tops, little domes and BIG domes,, now i have to make sense of these,, some 51mm 54mm 58mm and 61mm

http://i49.tinypic.com/2cffk93.jpg

[atc350xer]

How hard would it be to copy those Big Al's ones? For someone like DC, that is... my 90 would love to have some suspension!

[KASEY]

why copy i have more,,,, just step up to the parts counter!!!

[Vealmonkey]

Kasey, you are the devil. I haven't had a set of those......yet. LOL Now tell me more about the pistons. Pistons need rings.....I've also been doing some digging to see what I can get with 15mm wrist pin. I'm not sure on availability now though. I do have a nice Pauter Big Bore stroker cylinder coming though. I have a real nice bearing camshaft. See any Heavy Duty oil pumps? I sure could use one. Hint Hint. I've got my oil cooler all ready to mount up if I decide to run gas. I've got an old mind blower of an alcohol carb too. An old flatslide, and I do mean flatslide.

[motoman1012002]

This is getting better and better

[atc350xer]

why copy i have more,,,, just step up to the parts counter!!!

Oh! Being that this thread wasn't in the classifieds, I thought you were just showing off your goodies... didn't know they were for sale :lol:
How much $?

[Shorty]

How much for the gold triple tree's? And all the piston kit's?

[motoman1012002]

the gold triple's are taken allready by another board member

[Shorty]

the gold triple's are taken allready by another board member

I bet it was you. LOL j/k

[motoman1012002]

And whats in the H&S box in the upper left hand corner pic with all the pistons

[3Razors]

I know Helm & Sons was based in phoenix, AZ. Bob's always buys out businesses that close. I wonder if when H&S went under Bob's bought out there remaining stock too?

[shortline10]

I know Helm & Sons was based in phoenix, AZ. Bob's always buys out businesses that close. I wonder if when H&S went under Bob's bought out there remaining stock too?

Huuuummmm the good old edit button LOL

[3Razors]

Huuuummmm the good old edit button LOL

And whats that supposed to mean?

[KASEY]

ok guys what do i have now???? came off a atc90 motor 61.7 mm bore

http://i45.tinypic.com/20gy2cz.jpg

[shortline10]

ok guys what do i have now???? came off a atc90 motor 61.7 mm bore

http://i45.tinypic.com/20gy2cz.jpg

Helm & son star burst cylinder . Nice old skool piece . Is it for sale ?

[KASEY]

i think i have enough pieces to build a motor for my suspended 70 ,, 180cc's of fire breathing power now,,, just need a manual clutch bottomend,,, i found a kickstart bottomend but was auto clutch.

[shortline10]

i think i have enough pieces to build a motor for my suspended 70 ,, 180cc's of fire breathing power now,,, just need a manual clutch bottomend,,, i found a kickstart bottomend but was auto clutch.

Top and bottom end need machine work for that cylinder to be installed and no head gasket is used , you lap it in just like doing valves and if your using it on one of the 61.5 strokers you have , you will need a spacer under that cylinder for that long stroke .

The strokers you have wont work with a ct/sl/cl kick start bottom end their a few mm's shorter on the flywheel side . You have to use a atc bottom end and convert it to manual clutch set up .

I have a few NOS sl90 manual clutch covers left if you want to do some trading :beer.

[KASEY]

ok, then its all for sale,,, i'll get the cases and head rounded up and cleaned up... since i am not building an old school racer someone else can, if i can't use a kick start i am not going to cut up the frame to install this motor,,, i will probably just get a new gpx 160 for it.

[shortline10]

ok, then its all for sale,,, i'll get the cases and head rounded up and cleaned up... since i am not building an old school racer someone else can, if i can't use a kick start i am not going to cut up the frame to install this motor,,, i will probably just get a new gpx 160 for it.

Sorry to here that !
I just didnt want to see you waste your time and money and realize it wouldnt work .
I'm sure a kicker could be installed in a atc bottom end with some head scratching and sl manual cover but you would still have to keep the pull starter set up to use one of those stroker cranks .
Most people dont realize most trail 90 motors have and extra motor mount hole in the center cases and wont even bolt up in a atc frame .

[motoman1012002]

ok so heres my question theres not alot of them h&s cyc around so is there a way to take a stock 90 or 110 cyc and bore it and put a sleve in it and run a cb750 piston whish is 61 mm from what I hear, I know shortline your not into jerry rigin stuff but that would bring some more people into building a 90/110 motor maybe maybe not but just a question

[greenhuman]

It can be done but there are a few issues such as cooling and getting someone willing to machine it all up and doing it properly.
The aftermarket cylinders are aluminium with far better heat dispertion and are designed specifically for this big bore purpose. Plus the sleeves in the aftermaket cylinders are thicker = longer life.

[KASEY]

these make me happy!! found these today..

http://i47.tinypic.com/sll3b4.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/125j0xg.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/9jok1y.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/333vh5g.jpg

[atc350xer]

WHERE do you find this stuff?

[motoman1012002]

pretty neat i just got ahold of some MS cables for the 110 im building

[KASEY]

i forgot about these.. they were hanging on the wall-o-parts behind a gasket set.

http://i30.tinypic.com/29zxa2s.jpg

[90crazy]

Pm me with a price

[Xowner]

those are awesome!!! i got one me 110 too!

[KASEY]

and the hits just keep coming!! :-) :-)

http://i29.tinypic.com/303d5zl.jpg

[motoman1012002]

hum bassani's

[dcreel]

hum bassani's

They look like Bassani's for a 90/110. Great find. I think I need to move to Phoenix.

[motoman1012002]

yep bassani for the 90 and 110

[ctbale]

buying my first 3 wheeler sunday, I should get a set of those wrenches. I am tooled up for ct90 motors, but now I need to get set up for my new atc90. any other tools I should look out for?

[KASEY]

sorry my pm box was full... its been cleaned out.. since this thread is going can someone move it to classifieds,, them i can just add a few goodies to the list,, I went shopping yesterday!!!
I GOT SOME FUN THINGS!!

[motoman1012002]

what other parts did ya find now

[KASEY]

wow i really spent some quality time searching yesterday,, i found a few goodies first . a 30' honda banner. its not brand new but it is in great shape , i have a cool selection of old school mouth guards,, the bad thing, i remember wearing these before the full face helmet was even made!! i have a new set of front and rear fender extentions for 185 /110 front and rear ,, i have a set of fork guards for a 185, nice in the package too,, how about a chain tensioner for a 110 ,, caliper type,, AND a brand new very nice red tank cover for a tecate very cool for sure,, so on to the picts..

http://i28.tinypic.com/f44fmb.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/25i9h7a.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/k9e0c9.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/30jjql3.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/10frrmd.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/xejqza.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/6ira1f.jpg

[motoman1012002]

you look preety good dont ya haha sweet stuff

[KASEY]

I HAVE A WISECO PISTON used to debore a 250r to 200cc,, its NOS anyone interested? let me know

http://i25.tinypic.com/o7m3vt.jpg

[atc350xer]

how much for the chain tensioner?

[Shorty]

I know semi old thread. But Kasey, do you have a 61mm piston kit for a atc 90?

[honda250sx]

Im with Shorty. Do you have anything left? Cranks?

[KASEY]

i have cranks .. no piston kits left.

[KASEY]

ok i found a few more cams,, and i have a few more 90 cranks,, no more 110 's these cams are H&S full race grind ,, $45 shipped the cranks i will let go for $110 shipped i also have vavle guide sets for 90/110 and cam chains ,,,

[90crazy]

ok i found a few more cams,, and i have a few more 90 cranks,, no more 110 's these cams are H&S full race grind ,, $45 shipped the cranks i will let go for $110 shipped i also have vavle guide sets for 90/110 and cam chains ,,,
Got any pics of the cams. Are they 96 grind?
What size are the cranks?

[KASEY]

THE 90 CRANKS are 58mm cam specs in the pict,, and a pict of the cams too,, i unwrapped one to see the specs ..

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC01564.jpg
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC01567.jpg

[Xowner]

put my name on one of the 14mm cranks and send me a paypal address