View Full Version : Thinkin about gettin a 200x
live2rideatc
06-23-2010, 06:55 PM
So I own an 84 Big red and I've been happy with it in the mudd, But im thinkin about gettin a 200x.
How is the 200x in the mudd?
Hard to work on?
Which is better? (that should start a fight lol)
haggard 2hundie
06-23-2010, 07:07 PM
for a 200X my money is on 86/87 lighter faster and ive heard easier to work on the downside is some parts are more expensive and harder to find and i think upgrade packages are more readily available for 83 to 85 200X's however i think xr200 dirtbike parts will work for an 86/87 upgrade
as for the bigred i am clueless
Chillian
06-23-2010, 07:35 PM
So I own an 84 Big red and I've been happy with it in the mudd, But im thinkin about gettin a 200x.
How is the 200x in the mudd?
Hard to work on?
Which is better? (that should start a fight lol)
The 200x will not be as good as that hardtail in the mudd. There not hard to work on. And neither is better then the other. depends on riding style and personal prefrences. Personally i would pick the 200x over the hardtail(cause i hate bumps)lol.. But if the big red was a 85 or newer would be a hard choice for me. Honestly it's nice to own a few to switch it up from time to time.
RIDE-RED 250r
06-23-2010, 07:41 PM
personally, i think if you set up a 200x for the mud (especially an 86/87) it could be just as good if not better than a BR in the mud. much lighter overall weight than the BR=better floatation. then add better power to weight and i think its no contest. nothing against the BRs, they are great for moderate trail riding and utility use, but when you want to get a little more sporty, i think an 86/87 2oox is one of the top 3 machines of all time for just plain sport/fun, bar none. and IMHO, being a simpler chain drive unit, it MAY be a hair easier to work on, but between the 2, i doubt that one is significantly easier to work on than the other.....my $0.02
live2rideatc
06-23-2010, 07:53 PM
ok thanks, what would you do to the 200x to get it more mudd ready?
RIDE-RED 250r
06-23-2010, 08:05 PM
for all out mud, some 22 inch sand paddles. gear it down to compensate for the paddles churning in the mud eating more power. and also, to give the engine a bit more grunt with some simple bolt-ons, a K@N filter, after market full exhaust and jetting accordingly of course. but if you are talking about more all round trail riding with good mud capabilites, do the same to the engine, but you can go with more of a general mud/snow tire like the Duro Mud@Snow (modern Wolley Booger equivalant), or the ol Dick Cepek/ITP Spider Traks if you can find a good used set (they are no longer in production). i have a set of ITP Spider Traks on my Quadsport and they really churn through the mud nicely. My friend Chillian has the Duro Mud/Snows on his Sx and they do really well too, much better than an OEM type General Purpose tire. the downside is they ride a bit stiffer than most General Purpose tires....its really up to you
live2rideatc
06-23-2010, 08:08 PM
10-4 Thank ya!
RIDE-RED 250r
06-23-2010, 08:12 PM
anytime! oh, and there are PLENTY of other tire options out there to choose from..... check out Rocky Mountain ATV for starters. their prices are hard to beat. you can shop and order right online at their website.....and shipping is free on orders over $100
live2rideatc
06-23-2010, 08:15 PM
whats the x's tire size?
Chillian
06-23-2010, 08:22 PM
http://www.mud-throwers.com/atv_wheel_chart
whats the x's tire size?
haggard 2hundie
06-23-2010, 08:26 PM
stock on 86 200x is 22x10x9 for the rear
Fungo Wizard
06-23-2010, 11:53 PM
I have an 87, and honestly the 83 - 85 x's seem prehistoric to me. I have not ridden 83-85, but if you can find an 86/87 in decent shape my money is on that. Someone said in an earlier post that it is one of the top 3 machines, and they are right . Mine is awesome, and I would not trade it for a Big red. Make sure the tank is in good shape if you are buying, cause that is one of the trickier replacements on them.
Grizzlypeg
06-24-2010, 12:00 AM
I have an x and by friend has a BR. I prefer the X for trail riding, sand hills, gravel pits, hill climbs. Its got more get up and go, better ride, more responsive handling. His BR would be much superior for dragging a deer out of the bush or hauling supplies around. The enclosed driveshaft is probably good for wet stuff and mud, but I don't care for that so I got the 200x.
Xpress
06-24-2010, 02:08 AM
I LOVE my X. I've only done a little trail riding sofar, and it's a lot of fun. Haven't taken it in the mud yet, because summer time isn't good mudding season... :D
The stock tires on the 84 are 22x11-8, and IMO, they look a bit too cartoon-ish, and I'm going down to some nice flat surface 18's :)
Jsmith90
06-30-2010, 11:55 PM
Told ya man, I have my 86 200x I will sell you. It starts first kick. I love my 200x, but I can't exactly ride two at the same time. haha
Xpress
07-01-2010, 12:41 AM
I don't get how the newer models are lighter than the older ones. Can someone give me details? :wondering
200XMichigan
07-01-2010, 10:32 AM
The 2nd gen 200X are also usually like 3 times as expensive. And their engines are totally different. I don't know about production numbers but from looking in CL I see more 350X than 2nd gen 200X. The older 200X has tons of parts that will work from other engines and many different engines that will go in there. I love the 200X on the trail. Real light, good power, parts are easy to find and cheap. If your budget fits a 2nd gen 200X then go for it but they are so rare around here the only one I saw for sale was more than all off the 350X. That's why I would either just get a first gen 200X or just get a 350X.
Woodsrider
07-01-2010, 11:27 AM
I don't get how the newer models are lighter than the older ones. Can someone give me details? :wondering
According to THIS web sites specification pages, the DRY weight of an '85 200X is 282.2 lbs and the DRY weight of an '86 200X is 278 lbs...4.2 lbs difference. IMO...unless your drag racing, the difference in weight isn't even a topic for discussion.
Xpress
07-01-2010, 04:35 PM
Lol, so nothing to fuss about then :)
RIDE-RED 250r
07-01-2010, 08:26 PM
According to THIS web sites specification pages, the DRY weight of an '85 200X is 282.2 lbs and the DRY weight of an '86 200X is 278 lbs...4.2 lbs difference. IMO...unless your drag racing, the difference in weight isn't even a topic for discussion.
the difference in engine performance from the 1st gen to the 2nd gen motors adds to and exaggerates the weight and overall chassis advantage the 86 and laters enjoy..... DANG! the more i think about and 86 200x reading this thread, the more i WANT one! myu friend had one back in the day when i had a Zuki 230 QS, and that thing was minty....we're talking 1991 when he bought it...i loved riding that thing
Fungo Wizard
07-02-2010, 01:11 AM
True, parts are harder to find and more expensive in turn, but having owned an 85 and an 87, there is no comparison in the two. Now, your argument for buying a 350x is valid. Any time you can get your hands on a 350, grab it. I love my 87 200x, but wouldn't give up my 350x for it.
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