Icefest 2011!

[hang&rattle]

Wow Guys! Thanks fabiodriven for posting. Getting used to the black and red, I forgive you partner. How'd the shock feel? That's my type of fun. Now I want to load up the kids & get to the lake. That would be the time of my life. Man, not being able to attend feels like someone just stole my girlfriend or something. You folk gotta know how special and lucky you are to get to be together for something like this. And on the other side of the country trikers converging. What a depressing weekend for the rest of us, lol.

[jays375]

How did you guys see what you were doing?Also that Tri-Z with the 500 how fast was that?

[fabiodriven]

I don't like the black and red Hang. It'll be back to green soon. It's tough to tell how the shock is on the ice because it's pretty smooth anyways.

I was winning my race until this happened-

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[MIK6]

I had a blast @ icefest!!!! RAFFA & BJ host 1 heck of an event!!!
Nothing like wide open full lock slides thru the turns on ice!!!
I need more studs next year!!!

MIK6 / Mike

[sugarhead]

They say 3 wheelers are dangerous...ya sure they didnt mean the loose nut behind the handlebars?:DGlad to see your ok mate:) Looked like a real fun soire and time for every 1.I only have a 200x right now Im working on.THat wont run w any of the 250s or 500s or tweeners.I would just love to meet some of yall and ride ride ride.Theres an 85 tecate by me guy wants 1600.I dont think its worth that kind of coin.I'd love to get me an 86-87 tecate and shoehorn a kx540 engine in it:D

[Tecate250]

I don't like the black and red Hang. It'll be back to green soon. It's tough to tell how the shock is on the ice because it's pretty smooth anyways.

I was winning my race until this happened-

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_YaJ_RDaIIcE/TWEbzCe0iUI/AAAAAAAAAFo/UdDKRpxpE14/s640/063.JPG

Too much power John? Why did you paint it red and black?

[hang&rattle]

I know the feeling obtained in a wreck isn't the same you get from winning. But as I mentioned in the past, there is something sick about this whole thing. Let me explain: when getting tangled up with a big bull and being thrown underneath him, the hooking, stomping and weight of him on me, when it was all said and done, you look back and think 'that was cool'. During the wreck, the adrenaline, concentration, fear, all wrapped up in one, it's a cool feeling. Or is it just me? I told ya I was a sick b@st@rd, lol.

[Kintore]

Got home safe and sound, thanks for the great time raffa and BJ. Cant wait to do it again, great meeting new peeps and seeing the old ones too.

Boy was it FUN!

[atctim]

Thanks much BJ and Raffa! Was a time to remember - where's all the pics at???

PS - nice signature Josh!

[cattle-dog]

fabio was having a issue loading nearly 100 pics they did get on his facebook and am sure he will be trying to post them up.
i would also like to thank jack Atvnut who dates back to 2002 on 3ww for giving Fabio bigmike and myself a place to stay another great 3ww member.
Raffa it was awsome to see all the trikes in one place, you, your wife and crew did a top notch job,
thanks don/cattledog

[Tri-ZNate]

I rolled in about 1 hr ago. What a blast! The only pics and vids I have are from today of my 140 rippin it up. Great to put names with faces and see old friends. Thanks again Raffa and BJ!

[djberg]

just got home and in front of the computer. and oh boy did i take a lot of shots... just wait n see...:naughty:

as for the usual raffa, n bj it was perfection for a second year for me, wish the racing was on a clearer day but what ever it was all good in the end!

fabio thanks for not killing me!

and to the rest that were still around today, i have not even looked at those pics yet but i can only imagine!


and it's always a treat to see everyone!

pics will be comin soon on my facebook dj the photo guy page:

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/DJ-the-Photo-Guy/134825376555899

[sugarhead]

Is ice fest all 250 2 smoke trikes?

[chris200x]

i'm still drunk! hahaha!! sorry about sinkin your 350x nate!!! :( and thank you bj and raffaman!!!

my pics...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=59638&id=1668141770&l=61b4ef4dfb

[MIK6]

Is ice fest all 250 2 smoke trikes?

No icefest has all different atvs.. i bet we had more 70s than 2strokes... BUT the bigdogs are them big bore 2strokes, alot of them are over 300cc

MIK6 / Mike

[sugarhead]

I wish they would bring the 3 wheelers back for my generation,I was gonna buy a sport quad,got a wild idea bout trikes.mechanic and co worker at work had an 85 200x and even tho Im running into a few problems.Ive gotten hooked on trikes and no longer am too interested in sport quads especially at what a new sport quad costs makes me wanna barf.

[djberg]

there are new styles you can get into just look at tionesta trikes and tpc trikes! VERY VERY WELL BUILT 450 4 stroke quads.

especially jake the snake's, atctim's, and fast freddy's!

but this should be asked in other threads, this tread is for ICEFEST!!!!!!!!!!!!:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t:: w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w0 0t::w00t:


oh yeah and dont forget Mr Jason Hall's 450 conversion!

[fabiodriven]

I don't know where to begin. Thank you Raffa, BJ, Cattledog, Atvnut, (and anyone else I forgot). It was great to meet everyone, what a great group of people. Thank god I didn't run anyone over! :D I'll get more pics up when I can. Photobucket has been giving me a hard time. Everybody's hospitality was exceptional! Thank you!

[djberg]

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how is it that jake looks like a very young child under that helmet?

[sugarhead]

Wheres the clownsuit at?:D JK

[Bryan Raffa]

Race Results!!!!!!!!

studded mini
1,Lynman
2, andy crazy70
3,riverrat

unstudded mini
1,Sanchez!!!!!
2,snake
3,Will

Quad
1,tom
2,Keith
3,will

250 class
1,John Mccain
2,Fastz28 BOB
3,ATCTIM

4 stroke
1,Kiser
2,Harrison
3,Garret

Open class
1, John McCain
2,Chris D
3,Riverratt

Unstudded
1,Trizilla
2,BigRed44
3.Kiser
give me some time im uploading pics!

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!!!:TrikesOwn

[keister]

Raffa and BJ. What a great weekend - I can't thank you enough!! The hospitality could not be beat.

Not sure on the head count, but I counted 60 people during the drivers meeting. That did not include the dozen or so huddled under the tarp near the heater.

[riverrat]

Well Bryan and BJ (and everyone else who helped)you guys out did yourselves again. Where slse can you go in the world and race 3 wheelers on ice with that many classes, against that many bikes. Truly one of a kind. Sorry for not bringing the plow, next year for sure. Here are our pics:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=27712&id=100001736624776&l=358ed7165c

[Bryan Raffa]

Heres My photo's!!!!!!!!!:TrikesOwn

http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j282/bryanraffa/ICEFEST%202011/?albumview=slideshow&direction=reverse

[bigred44]

Race Results!!!!!!!!

studded mini
1,Lynman
2, andy crazy70
3,riverrat

unstudded mini
1,Sanchez!!!!!
2,snake
3,Will

Quad
1,tom
2,Keith
3,will

250 class
1,John Mccain
2,Fastz28 BOB
3,ATCTIM

4 stroke
1,Kiser
2,Harrison
3,Garret

Open class
1, John McCain
2,Chris D
3,Riverratt

Unstudded
1,Trizilla
2,Kiser
3,Brian L ..quad

give me some time im uploading pics!

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!!!:TrikesOwn

Hey Bryan, quick clarification, I took 2nd for the unstudded class on my 200x (not a quad) and kiser took 3rd.

Want to thank everyone for a great time. Had a blast and already can't wait for next year. Will be better prepared now that i know what to expect.

Thanks,
-Brian L.

[Bryan Raffa]

thats how we rembered you ,,, hahahaha! Ill change it!!;)

[Bryan Raffa]

I gotta say,, it was really cool to see Sanchez here out of the blue.....I can still see tims face when he saw you :lol: see ya in the dunes!!!!!!!!!!;)

shoulds have got tropheys for the Wii...:lol::lol:


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[zmpolaristech]

What a great time!! I had an absolute blast!! I think someone said there were 70+ bikes there this year. Thanx to Raffa and BJ for everything. I"M ALREADY THINKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR!

[aldochina]

home sweet home baby!! thanks for all the freinds and fun Raffa and BJ!!

[fabiodriven]

Jesus!

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[fabiodriven]

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[Bryan Raffa]

:pics::pics:thanks Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:pics:

[Bryan Raffa]

:pics::pics::pics:

[riverrat]

Didn't take much video this year between the snow and riding.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcJw2bluWK4

[djberg]

Here they come all the qualifiers except mini studded are going up as i type!

that was the first pass through, i'll do a second pass on all of them after i get through the whole batch once...

[djberg]

My email and my paypal are the same dj@djthephotoguy.com

Pricing goes as follows:

Digital Files emailed to you in JPEG format in an 8x10 size.

1 pic - $10

3 pics -$20

5 pics -$30

10pics -$50

more than that ask and we can work something out.

Prints of photos mailed to you via USPS Priory Mail:

8"x10" prints

1 -$15

4 -$50

13"x19" prints

1- $45

3- $100

Shipping on prints is an extra $6 on orders under $100, over $100 is free shipping.

any questions, you can reply to this, pm me or email me @ dj@djthephotoguy.com.

[Tri-ZNate]

Here they come all the qualifiers except mini studded are going up as i type!

that was the first pass through, i'll do a second pass on all of them after i get through the whole batch once...

Were you able to get any of the mini studded?

[kiser]

We made it home safe and sound! Thanks Brian and Bj for everything! I had a blast on ice for the first time!!

[jays375]

What was that Wii game you were playing?Looked like you had a good time with that.

[djberg]

Were you able to get any of the mini studded?


oh yeah i just had not gotten to them yet.

[sugarhead]

Sweet pics from the riders hanging it out and off on the lake,reminds me of old dirtwheels pics.I never seen a taurus before so thats news to me,Love to see ya burning ya xmas tree thats just great:D

[djberg]

this here photo could have been my last... damn near killed doing what i love! lol

and i think it scared fabiodriven way more than myself...
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and the more look at it, he was pushin way hard. too much axle weight and not enough gas cap weight.

[fabiodriven]

It was too unpredictable. This was the first time I had run it with the studs and the pushing was my biggest problem. I could get it out sideways but the front definitely needed more bite. The reason why it doesn't bite like it should is half of the front studs were a crappy Ebay brand and the other half were Kold Kutters. I need to replace the Cheez-o studs with Kold Kutters and now that I know what she does I can index the studs as well. It would help if it were wider too. Had plenty of motor though!

[sugarhead]

Thata a bitching shot tho,I think its the best photo that and you and another trike drifting together.I wish i could use that as my desktop photo that is just cool.Glad to see you didnt biff yourself or your machine.

[djberg]

Had plenty of motor though!


and that's what counts! hells yeah!

[tri-Z ripper]

Such a great time! so glad to meet and see so many fellow trikers! please find me on facebook if we haven't already
shane wehner

[CRAZY70MAN]

:pics::pics:thanks Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:pics:

Thanks for a great time...you and B.J!! Great hosts and great poeple. I was honored to be a part of the "PLOWFEST STAFF" lol lol. My drive home from NY was 5 hours to my house but when I went to take Kiser home????? OMG dude.....no 4 wd and 10 inches of snow with that trailer. Butt was puckered.....took me 5 more hours to get him 75 miles by the time I was done.....I had 1000 miles plus and almost 11 hours of drive. I would do it all again in a minute for all the fun that was. Great to meet some new friends and rap a little with Tim. lol lol By the way.....plowed and drank a Yuengling last night and freakin plowed again this morning........ gotta want it Raffa.......ya' gotta want it!! Thanks again. Nate.....you are a very smart man by the way.......gonna fly in a jockey for the mini class next year. lol

[Bryan Raffa]

:beer:beer:beer:beer

[Tri-ZNate]

Nate.....you are a very smart man by the way.......gonna fly in a jockey for the mini class next year. lol

lol just toss that quad guy back on. He was rippin it up with your mini. Next year I'll be earning my own trophy. The jockey will probably build his own. Thanks for lettin me plow. That was a blast
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[aldochina]

here's some of my pics!! most from sunday, I didnt take the camera out much saturday!!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2064569&id=1588435655&saved#!/album.php?aid=2064569&id=1588435655

[djberg]

ok so here you are...

first off finals are postnig right now. and if you dont see yourself, i appologise there were a bunch of shots that were of people not in the top 3 that were just impossible to focus on because of the snow and ice in the air.

and i will start working on sundays photos now! the shots from the clear day!

[Bryan Raffa]

oh .... thoes I wanna see ... Sunday was such a beautiful day!

[djberg]

got em cropped, now i just got some tweaking and water marking. right around 40 or so

[zmpolaristech]

yes, yes... the sunday pics, PLEASE!

[aldochina]

Jesus!

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/fabiodriven/Icefest%202011/079.jpg

jesus no more!! my wife got her way!
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/000_0549.jpg

[djberg]

yes, yes... the sunday pics, PLEASE!

some are up, and more to come later. but i'm off too bed...

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?aid=36409&id=134825376555899

[fabiodriven]

Jesus, Jesus. You don't look like the same guy! HA!

[djberg]

jesus no more!! my wife got her way!
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/000_0549.jpg

Peter Steele? (may he rest in peace)

[aldochina]

Peter Steele? (may he rest in peace)



Type-O-Negative?? didnt know he was dead rest his soul!!

[aldochina]

how ya like this one!! threatened to leave it like that if she didnt take care of me!! LMFAO!!
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/000_0545.jpg

sorry to clutter the thread guys!!

[djberg]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5214/5470491542_fa3593d98c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djberg/5470491542/)
DSC_5816 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djberg/5470491542/) by dj.berg (http://www.flickr.com/people/djberg/), on Flickr

ChrisD showing a quad the business!

and yeah peter died this spring

[Triple B!]

What was that Wii game you were playing?Looked like you had a good time with that.

I believe it was called Just Dance and after playing and Bj and Raffa's I officially WANT that for our Wii for my birthday!! LOL

And I definitely had a really good time. Always tell people about ICEFEST like this- "I really hate winter, all the snow and ice and crap. But the best part about winter and the only reason I look forward to it is Raffa's Icefest!":TrikesOwn

[riverrat]

Ok....where the heck are the videos?

[CRAZY70MAN]

Well....these are from my cell phone but it is Icefest video?? Here is one of the dragraces......chris d, john and ????? I beleive.http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_dragrace.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=dragrace.mp4) Here is our trip home.......Kylie.....I mean Kiser..lol lol lol with his trophy and Queen palying we are the champions...http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_champions.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=champions.mp4) Her is Raffa, Kiser and I lighting the ceremonial tree on the ice....listen to the end Kiser tells Raffa "O.K Dad"....lolhttp://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_treelighting.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=treelighting.mp4).. And here is 2 stroke race where someone wrecks in turn 4 if you watch good...http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_crash.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=crash.mp4) The Tiger stalled on the line..........I would have liked to seen it in the mix at least. I have some more on my camera but I can not find it??? Uh OH>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning... there are 2 or 3 unappropriate word on one of the videos if the kids watch.......... sorry.....it was the heat of "ICEFEST"

[sugarhead]

Typo negative and life of agony are the shiznit.You look like a ufc fighter in that stance aldochina.My aunts godson was lead man in hades and NON fiction.

[fabiodriven]

That's Shane (Tri-Z Ripper) that crashed. That was our race. If you had kept recording for 5 more seconds you would have gotten my crash too.

[Bryan Raffa]

Typo negative and life of agony are the shiznit.You look like a ufc fighter in that stance aldochina.My aunts godson was lead man in hades and NON fiction.

lets not clutter up the thred OK theres a lot of pages already thanks

[riverrat]

That's it for the video? What a let down. I guess it was the snow that kept the cameras from rollin.

[fabiodriven]

That's it for the video? What a let down. I guess it was the snow that kept the cameras from rollin.

I have a video of the 350 race, and a short clip of a guy on an R ripping up a corner on Sunday. Photobucket is a huge pain in my arse and won't let me upload them so I can't post them here. They are both on my Facebook though.

[hang&rattle]

jesus no more!! my wife got her way!
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/000_0549.jpg

Hottie with a naughtie body! Finally!!, a fella nearly as pretty as me! Lol! Thanks Raffa & everyone. This was a pleasure to view and fallow. Helps depression for members that are all alone with just the kids and their trikes with no triking fellowship. Thanks guys for partisipating, and the efforts to show this to all. And I'm sorry ya can't have a fella as good lookin' as me there, because of geography, lol.

[Bryan Raffa]

got a CD stuck in my door today.. wonder whats on it??????? thanks 350xInNY

[Bryan Raffa]

Hey cool I got vid of the start of the big bore... SOMEONE JUMPED THE GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[riverrat]

Do over, I called it

[Tri-ZNate]

Hey cool I got vid of the start of the big bore... SOMEONE JUMPED THE GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

I declare SHINANIGANS!

Also I got 2 quick vids on Sunday
Me with the 140 and a tri-z going at it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFqExL3PPCU
My buddy on my 140 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgmICOY20uA

[ChrisD]

That's what I've been told. Let's go to the video tape!!! BTW...I know I thanked you and BJ all weekend, but if I can ever repay your hospitality, I would love to do so. If ever you want to get away to the Baltimore/DC or NYC areas, my doors are open to you anytime. Thanks again for the great time. It was a blast again and I look forward to next year!

[Bryan Raffa]

Ill upload it tonight.. if this was morocross the Gate would have ate him...... No way this will happen next year... 50' of surgical tubeing streched across the line ...you jump next year .. and it will be obvious when its wrapped all over you..

3/4's to a bike length ,, over everyone else is a little excessive...

I got Fastz28's wreck also..

[djberg]

where is this vid?

[djberg]

All icefest photos are up and posted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CRAZY70MAN]

I declare SHINANIGANS!

Also I got 2 quick vids on Sunday
Me with the 140 and a tri-z going at it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFqExL3PPCU
My buddy on my 140 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgmICOY20uA

I second the Shenanigans calling!!!!! I want a rematch............11 months and ????????days Nate...........I shall see you at the line fellow studded mini rider!! lol lol P.S....no diets from now until Icefest 2012!!!! lol..........There is that secret weapon in that last video!!!! 150lbs...:(:(:lol::lol: Man that mini moves with him on it:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[MIK6]

I second the Shenanigans calling!!!!! I want a rematch............11 months and ????????days Nate...........I shall see you at the line fellow studded mini rider!! lol lol P.S....no diets from now until Icefest 2012!!!! lol..........There is that secret weapon in that last video!!!! 150lbs...:(:(:lol::lol: Man that mini moves with him on it:rolleyes::rolleyes:

That mini love the ice!!! I was on it & russ was on my T3, we started 1/2 track apart, my T3 needs WAY more studs, after 10 laps or so we were still 1/2 track apart LOL
I have a 125 going into an extended frame, but after that 140.... I might have a 125 for sale LOL

MIK6 / Mike

[CRAZY70MAN]

That mini love the ice!!! I was on it & russ was on my T3, we started 1/2 track apart, my T3 needs WAY more studs, after 10 laps or so we were still 1/2 track apart LOL
I have a 125 going into an extended frame, but after that 140.... I might have a 125 for sale LOL

MIK6 / Mike

You shall all be surprised next year when Crazy70man rolls out his ice mini.....ha ha ha.........a whole lotta work goin' into this one for sure. Thanks Raffa for spoiling me on the ice and making me build yet another trike!! lol By the way...here is a vid I found of someone????? Good sounding "R" with that 400 Suzuki dirtbike....http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_02201112453g2250r.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=02201112453g2250r.mp4)

[Tri-ZNate]

You shall all be surprised next year when Crazy70man rolls out his ice mini.....ha ha ha.........a whole lotta work goin' into this one for sure.

Yeah i'm goin big bore too :lol: OH and a 9ft rear end!

[jays375]

Was the owner of TRI-Z 91 a member here?

[CRAZY70MAN]

Yeah i'm goin big bore too :lol: OH and a 9ft rear end!

My bore is big enough..........just 2 ft wider and scrapin' the ice....lol lol I may tease ya' with it at Trikefest Nate?????? lol

[Tri-ZNate]

I may tease ya' with it at Trikefest Nate?????? lol

Sounds good to me.

[Bryan Raffa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOU0cCrUKiU

BIG BORE MAIN

[jays375]

You guys were sure hooked up and flying!I see #91 was set up with a stagger in the rear.Was that the only trike set up that way?Granted it would only work in a oval type condition.

[Bryan Raffa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rm-I8JToJY

4 stroke main

[Bryan Raffa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T016fi50Oag

Quad

[Tri-ZNate]

Any footage of the mini main?

[CRAZY70MAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rm-I8JToJY

4 stroke main

Talk about jumping a start???? Whoaaaaaaaa.........that was an ugly start!! Shenanigans!!lol lol

[riverrat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOU0cCrUKiU

BIG BORE MAIN

Ya know..... when I shot out in first with a perfect start......probably the best start I ever had and then saw #91 shoot around me, I was like how the heck did he get there? I was like oh well, I'll just blow by him on the straight, and hold the inside and take the lead back, then my bike started missing, so I didn't care anymore after that. I was just sorry I got in Chris's way. My bike finally quit this week, either the cdi box or coil went bad. Got some new ones on order, hopefully get to use them before melt down.

[zmpolaristech]

Ya know..... when I shot out in first with a perfect start......probably the best start I ever had and then saw #91 shoot around me, I was like how the heck did he get there? I was like oh well, I'll just blow by him on the straight, and hold the inside and take the lead back, then my bike started missing, so I didn't care anymore after that. I was just sorry I got in Chris's way. My bike finally quit this week, either the cdi box or coil went bad. Got some new ones on order, hopefully get to use them before melt down.

Yep, I jumped... about a half a bike length, then clutched and waited. I still won the main by 3-4 bike lengths. I don't think the jump was the deciding factor of that race...

[riverrat]

Yep, I jumped... about a half a bike length, then clutched and waited. I still won the main by 3-4 bike lengths. I don't think the jump was the deciding factor of that race...

Don't take it wrong, like I said my bike was missing otherwise you may have never got around me on the outside, so for me it didn't matter. I got in Chris's way, so you two couldn't have battled it out. But a jump in a race that short on a track that difficult to pass on can mean the difference between winning or losing. Shooting out in front like that on the outside, everyone had to get on the brakes to avoid hitting you, when you would have otherwise been eating the gate. Yours, mine (when running right) and Chris's bikes (and John's too) are all pretty close, and if anyone of us got out in front, passing may have not been possible. So a good start is paramount in winning that race. It's all good, I don't want you to think we are all being competitive, I just want to come home in one piece. Winning not so important to me. I thought I had fixed my bike, because in the heat it was running fine, so I went for it. If I had known my bike was going to start missing and breaking up, I would have let everyone go in front of me. It was a sporadic electrical problem that I thought I had fixed by putting a new plug in. Even the next day it ran fine for 30-40 laps, then started missing again. I went home and ran two more days on the ice, and it was fine, then all of a sudden it died completely. I should have the new parts by Tuesday, but the ice may be gone by then.
Your gonna have to make a trip down here next year, and hang with us.

[aldochina]

vids are great!! The races were awful short, hard to do a whole lot in three laps and no practice. I agree hole shots were key!! 5 lap races would have been better, but mother nature did not see it that way. Plow races next year!! lol. from the big bore main footage only it looks like ZM had the right line running wide, as in most of the vid his is the only trike in the frame. But, i had the same issue with the guy running wide in the 4-stroke main, i had to brake hard, and still couldnt avoid the collision in turn 3 lap 2!! there was 3 of us that got together 2 coming in tight, and the guy coming from way outside!! Great fun all the same!

[zmpolaristech]

Your gonna have to make a trip down here next year, and hang with us.

definately!

[zmpolaristech]

I see #91 was set up with a stagger in the rear.Was that the only trike set up that way?Granted it would only work in a oval type condition.

Good eye...most didn't even notice. And yes, it was the only one set-up like that out there. Makes the bike very tight, more forward bite throught the corner, less sliding than a standard set-up.

[zmpolaristech]

Yep, I jumped... about a half a bike length, then clutched and waited. I still won the main by 3-4 bike lengths. I don't think the jump was the deciding factor of that race...

Actually... After STUDYING the video (since people act like the result would have been different if I hadn't jumped), I have found that I was just ON MY GAME! Watch the flagman... His arm moves the same time I do. 33-34 sec in the video. keep rewinding it to 33 sec and you'll see, I left as soon as he moved. That IS how you judge a flagged start, correct? I am not supposed to wait for the flag to reach the bottom of the flagmans stroke am I? AND, there is NO WAY anyone had to BRAKE for me due to the line I was running. excuses...

[riverrat]

No you moved before the flagman moved his arm. I watched it again, it was very close. I do give you props for recognizing it at the start and holding back for a split second. You may or may have not been swallowed by the gate on a mx track, and on any other oval track there would have been a restart with you in the rear. Then the outcome would have been different for sure. You are not the only one running stagger. I did brake to avoid swinging wide and hitting you on the first straight, I don't even want to come close to hitting someone.
Remember, the outcome for me would have been the same either way since I wasn't running right, so to me it doesn't matter. Unless we restarted with you in the rear, and I was a total ass and decided to block you for 5 laps, but I wouldn't do that anyway. I was even shocked I finished 3rd with my my bike breaking up like that.

[KILLER]

lmao .... this is almost as good as the pre race smack talk . cant wait till next year . its all good .. no one got hurt . good times .

[zmpolaristech]

It's all good, just gonna make next year more interesting....I had a %$#@!* riot!

[riverrat]

Ah, you guys figured me out. Just trying to bring up the excitement level. :D :D :D

[CRAZY70MAN]

No worse than your competition putting a 150lb secret weapon rider on his new mini in the mini studded class:mad: I won't mention any names Nate alright:lol::lol:...ooops......:lol: Next year my friend.....that slightly larger 1st place trophy is surely going to be mine!!:D

[Tri-ZNate]

:lol: I was always told there is no winners/losers, only losers and cheaters :beer . Till next year

[CRAZY70MAN]

:lol: I was always told there is no winners/losers, only losers and cheaters :beer . Till next year

:beer:beer agreed, till next year.

[djberg]

so yeah after reviewing, the footage, of "the early" start, i have come to this conclusion. Kintore the flag man, was completely still until a split second before he dropped the flag.now if i were i that race and the motionless flagman made a motion like he was going to drop the flag, i would have dropped the clutch as well. it seems to me like he was going to drop it, had a moment of hesitation and went with it after all. so i personally think if any one is to blame it would be the flag guy. for "flinching" the races.

next up as facts of the day. why did no one standing right there say anything? bj, atctim, jakethesnake, johnnys'x, or any one else standing right there when it all went down?

sorry this is just the way i see it. and yes a "real" starting gate will do alot next year, but with that this will mean the "track officials" will really need to be on there game.

and as to the validity of the win, absolutely, if there were any doubts on the start, they should have been adressed at the end of the first lap with a red flag.

[riverrat]

if there were any doubts on the start, they should have been adressed at the end of the first lap with a red flag.


No one is complaining about the outcome, it is, what it is. We all had fun, and we will again next year. Trash talk and ball busting is part of the fun IMO.

[fabiodriven]

No one is complaining about the outcome, it is, what it is. We all had fun, and we will again next year. Trash talk and ball busting is part of the fun IMO.

Amen to that! I will be there next year for sure!

[zmpolaristech]

Ya just got to... It's male nature!

[Big Mike]

I will be there next year too!! I cannot wait. That was so much fun to run on the ice.

[CRAZY70MAN]

Found this on my phone....http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_0220111331jpgraffa.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=0220111331jpgraffa.jpg) Raffa cookin' what appears to be a king cobra??? Thought it worthy to post. Hey Bryan.......did you find a camera???? Lost mine and it had the drag race I filmed........damn.......

[JohnR.]

next up as facts of the day. why did no one standing right there say anything? bj, atctim, jakethesnake, johnnys'x, or any one else standing right there when it all went down?

sorry this is just the way i see it. and yes a "real" starting gate will do alot next year, but with that this will mean the "track officials" will really need to be on there game.

and as to the validity of the win, absolutely, if there were any doubts on the start, they should have been adressed at the end of the first lap with a red flag.

I did bring it up but in the excitement of the race starting no one seemed to be interested in what I had to say. I mentioned it a couple of times and when no one seemed to want to hear it I let it go and watched the rest of the race. Whether it determined the outcome of the race or not probably depends on how it would have been handled. If they had sent John to the back it might have made it more difficult but I'm sure he'd have managed to grab himself second place seeing as how the hardest thing to do in a tight track is get around someone no matter if you are a little faster than them or not.

I think stuff like this is all part of the learning curve and a few lessons were learned from that race. For one, we might need to do something like they do at a MX track when the gates are broken which is a large rubber band (i.e. piece of surgical tubing) stretched across the gate for the start. Secondly is that we need a couple of sets of IMPARTIAL eyes on the start and if ANY of the officials calls it a false start then that's what it is and those who jumped are subject to a predetermined penalty. Lastly we need to make a rule for what happens to those who jump the start. When I ran flat track here (indoor and outdoor) any and all riders who jumped the start went to the back of the pack at the start. They didn't use any rubber band or gate, just the officials word. I remember some races at the indoors where 5 out of 6 quads jumped and the smart racer who never got caught up in the moment at the line found himself in the front row all by himself with the 5 other guys two rows deep behind him.

I also think we might want to re-think only having 5 laps as a main. Maybe 5 for the heats but I'd love to see 10 as a heat race and 15 or 20 as a main depending on the size of the track to make it more than just a 3 minute sprint. One of the most fun races I did was a 40 lap race on a 1/4 mile dirt oval, it took about 15 minutes of running flat out to get to the end. I remember breathing a sigh of relief at the halfway flags and just about crying with joy when I saw the 2 to go flags. :)

I would also propose that we find a fair way to determine where the riders start in the grid. Maybe have each of us pull a card from a deck of cards and whoever gets the highest card picks his spot first and so on down the line. Just having from 2 up to Aces without any duplicates would avoid the possibility of having two riders pick the same card. Lastly, even when I did the outdoor 1/4 mile track they did not line us up 5 or 6 abreast and that had a pretty wide front stretch and first turn. We had two rows with whoever won the heat races getting the first two spots and so on down the line. I think two rows of 3 would probably be better in this instance but all of it is just suggestions. Obviously, the last one kind of interferes with the whole "card pick" idea so that would have to be sorted out.

Not trying to nit-pick, just giving some suggestions.

Next year I won't be on the sideline to watch the start because I'm planning on being in the feature. I won't have run myself down prepping another trike to the point that I couldn't think straight right before the heat and cost myself a top three in the heat race. It's one thing to get beat by someone else, its another all together more frustrating thing to pretty much beat yourself. :banghead:

John

[CRAZY70MAN]

got some good news!!! Raffa found my camera and there is some drag race VIDEO on it and some good pics!!!!! Stay tuned!!

[fabiodriven]

Good to hear Andy.

How did I miss out on drag racing? That's my forte.

[CRAZY70MAN]

Good to hear Andy.

How did I miss out on drag racing? That's my forte.

Don't know???? It was pretty late on Sunday. Glad he found it. Got some stuff to sell and almost bought a new one. Maybe we could have drags on Saturday next year if we had time and some more help with running it keeping it plowed?? I have some video at the finish line of one drag race on my camera, will post up.

[fabiodriven]

That would explain it. We left at about 2 on Sunday.

[Tri-ZNate]

Don't know???? It was pretty late on Sunday. Glad he found it. Got some stuff to sell and almost bought a new one. Maybe we could have drags on Saturday next year if we had time and some more help with running it keeping it plowed?? I have some video at the finish line of one drag race on my camera, will post up.

My Big Red will have a plow next year to help out. Maybe plow races :D?

[JohnR.]

Maybe flat track on Saturday and drags on Sunday? I ran out there and plowed a drag strip out and it took all of 10 minutes. Not really much to maintain like there is on the ovals.

John

[Bryan Raffa]

My Big Red will have a plow next year to help out. Maybe plow races :D?

Sweet! Andy has been Promoted to head Plowmaster ,, you will be under his command,, this will leave me free during the racing..in 2012.. maybe we can get Mr Hartmans big red and plow also.. a tripple red plow team ... wow!

So Im rakeing my yard saterday getting all the beer bottles in the bushes and beer caps and cigarette butts up and I find a bunch of these!!! I know where these came from!!!!:lol: and who gives 5cents off a tire...:crazy:WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:

[JohnR.]

Next year I will bring my plow quad again but I can't do both duties again. It was just too much. I'll let someone else use it to clean up but I can't be out there plowing, scramble over to my trike, hop on it, and expect to have my head focused.

[Bryan Raffa]

Next year I will bring my plow quad again but I can't do both duties again. It was just too much. I'll let someone else use it to clean up but I can't be out there plowing, scramble over to my trike, hop on it, and expect to have my head focused.

both my bikes were dead cold ,, and I missed a race because of it.. I moved races around for other members so there bikes could be warmed up ... and I myself payed for it,,, not next year.... I will be 100% stricter. Come to think of it.. I didnt practice once!

[cattle-dog]

i would gladly help drive a plow as i only run in the four stroke class but can only do friday night,saturday and sunday as i dont get monday off.

[CRAZY70MAN]

Sweet! Andy has been Promoted to head Plowmaster ,, you will be under his command,, this will leave me free during the racing..in 2012.. maybe we can get Mr Hartmans big red and plow also.. a tripple red plow team ... wow!

So Im rakeing my yard saterday getting all the beer bottles in the bushes and beer caps and cigarette butts up and I find a bunch of these!!! I know where these came from!!!!:lol: and who gives 5cents off a tire...:crazy:WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:

Freakin cheap Canadian stores.............:lol:....just kiddin..........5 cents off???:wondering triple trike plows would be pretty neat!! Count on me Raffa..I shall head the committee to free you up a little as you got a lot of sh%^ going on. Hopefully....we will not need to have another Plowfest though...p.s........What might have the Canadians been up to in the bushes anyway??:wondering:beer

[Bryan Raffa]

i would gladly help drive a plow as i only run in the four stroke class but can only do friday night,saturday and sunday as i dont get monday off.

monday is a lax day ,,anyways,, pull the kids on sleds, hang out ,,, clean up.. I will take you up on the offer tho! thank you!

[Bryan Raffa]

found brown duck boot's on lower porch..

Possibly chris200x when he fell in?:lol:

[Bryan Raffa]

QUOTE=JohnR.;986233]I did bring it up but in the excitement of the race starting no one seemed to be interested in what I had to say. I mentioned it a couple of times and when no one seemed to want to hear it I let it go and watched the rest of the race. Whether it determined the outcome of the race or not probably depends on how it would have been handled. If they had sent John to the back it might have made it more difficult but I'm sure he'd have managed to grab himself second place seeing as how the hardest thing to do in a tight track is get around someone no matter if you are a little faster than them or not.

I think stuff like this is all part of the learning curve and a few lessons were learned from that race. For one, we might need to do something like they do at a MX track when the gates are broken which is a large rubber band (i.e. piece of surgical tubing) stretched across the gate for the start. Secondly is that we need a couple of sets of IMPARTIAL eyes on the start and if ANY of the officials calls it a false start then that's what it is and those who jumped are subject to a predetermined penalty. Lastly we need to make a rule for what happens to those who jump the start. When I ran flat track here (indoor and outdoor) any and all riders who jumped the start went to the back of the pack at the start. They didn't use any rubber band or gate, just the officials word. I remember some races at the indoors where 5 out of 6 quads jumped and the smart racer who never got caught up in the moment at the line found himself in the front row all by himself with the 5 other guys two rows deep behind him.

I also think we might want to re-think only having 5 laps as a main. Maybe 5 for the heats but I'd love to see 10 as a heat race and 15 or 20 as a main depending on the size of the track to make it more than just a 3 minute sprint. One of the most fun races I did was a 40 lap race on a 1/4 mile dirt oval, it took about 15 minutes of running flat out to get to the end. I remember breathing a sigh of relief at the halfway flags and just about crying with joy when I saw the 2 to go flags. :)

I would also propose that we find a fair way to determine where the riders start in the grid. Maybe have each of us pull a card from a deck of cards and whoever gets the highest card picks his spot first and so on down the line. Just having from 2 up to Aces without any duplicates would avoid the possibility of having two riders pick the same card. Lastly, even when I did the outdoor 1/4 mile track they did not line us up 5 or 6 abreast and that had a pretty wide front stretch and first turn. We had two rows with whoever won the heat races getting the first two spots and so on down the line. I think two rows of 3 would probably be better in this instance but all of it is just suggestions. Obviously, the last one kind of interferes with the whole "card pick" idea so that would have to be sorted out.

Not trying to nit-pick, just giving some suggestions.

Next year I won't be on the sideline to watch the start because I'm planning on being in the feature. I won't have run myself down prepping another trike to the point that I couldn't think straight right before the heat and cost myself a top three in the heat race. It's one thing to get beat by someone else, its another all together more frustrating thing to pretty much beat yourself. :banghead:

John[/QUOTE]

and dont think I didnt read that .. all good points.. ruleing out all possibilitys is the key..starting gate and Line has been handled..Plow Crew has been handled.. By all means if your comeing and can fit a plow.. bring it.. from now on!,, Idealy I would like to clean the ice every moto!

the problem is keeping track of each person on a 40 lap moto..:crazy:

[Bryan Raffa]

and seeing how we got our BULK UPLODER BACK!!!!!:naughty:

[Bryan Raffa]

these are Bruce Hartmans photo's

[Bryan Raffa]

last ones from 350XinNY

[Tri-ZNate]

Next year I dont plan on racing, strickly drinking and plowin. I had the most fun simply plowing and, oh yeah, rippin on Mik6's tecati :D

[Bryan Raffa]

Next year I dont plan on racing, strickly drinking and plowin. I had the most fun simply plowing and, oh yeah, rippin on Mik6's tecati :D

just bring your Jockey,,Bike and Plow,,,:lol:

[CRAZY70MAN]

just bring your Jockey,,Bike and Plow,,,:lol:

Exactly Raffa!!! lol You beat me to it......lol

[JohnR.]

Good point about keeping track of everyone. I think if we have 2 or 3 people scoring the race it wouldn't be very hard to do it accurately, they would just have a list of the racers plate number and make a check next to their number for every lap they do. We seem to have 6 in the main most times to 3 scorekeepers each watching 2 riders would be pretty easy to do. We would just have to make sure everyone had numbers that were easy to read on the front and rear of their machine. It would be cool to introduce some strategy into the race instead of just a sprint.

I'll keep bringing the 4x4 to plow with, it comes in handy even when its not plowing. It makes a great helmet holder and cooler stand.

John

[Bryan Raffa]

keys found by last motorhome Next to fire!??????????????????????????

[CRAZY70MAN]

Thanks Raffa....got my camera in the mail today!! Here is Icefest 2011 almost lost footage. Dragrace http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB140008.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB140008.mp4) The bigred http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB140009.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB140009.jpg) My favorite....Kyle like a kid in a candy store on th beast and Raffa's uhhhmmmmmm....finger! lol lol Checking the crack.....http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120004.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oohttp://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120006.jpg Oh boy..... Trailer shot pretrip...http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120001.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB120001.jpg) And Kiser again http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120002.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB120002.jpg) http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120003.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB120003.jpg) http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120004.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB120004.jpg) http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/th_PB120006.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/oo321/andyatc70/?action=view&current=PB120006.jpg) Raffa coolin off after some hard drinkin'.......uhhhh I mean hard work!! lol Sorry for the doubles.....first ones did not load correct??

[Bryan Raffa]

Good stuff man Glad you got it Back!!!

[aldochina]

pics of the carnage from the 4 stroke main. G-king buddy, guess i;m gonna have to send it back to ya!! Glad it wasnt my leg!!
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv103/aldochina/250es%20part%20out/100_3774.jpg

[Bryan Raffa]

You guys gotta learn to give yourself some room...that could have been your shin!:wondering

[JohnR.]

Leave it alone. Its like a battle scar, you don't just remove that sh1t. :)