84 cr500r in an 84 200x

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[Flossyb20]

The downtube modification looks great..you do that yourself? Looks like it's gonna be a nice trike!

[cr480r]

Very cool project. The pipe looks like it leaves alot to be desired. What is the pipe from?

[fidel]

beutifull just beutifull

[ATCeeya]

hey neighbor, looks interesting

[BGP]

Cool! That pipe look like it'll be easy enough to fit without modifying it's length.

Btw, I always cringe when I see pics of a disassembled engine with a crowbar or hammer sitting near it!

[gumbyspeed]

Yes i did the down tube myself. It was a 5" round 1/4" wall tube that i heated and flattened. The exhaust is a DG for a 85 250r that i cut and and turned outward. All the motor mounts are very close to the 200x.

[lazybiker79]

sweet project.. I would love to see it running. It's going to be a crazy bike

[tri-Z ripper]

Wow such a small frame for a 500 motor widen and lower that bad boy and it would be one hell of a dirt tracker!

[gumbyspeed]

Im working on lowering the back 4". I had to move the upper shock mount back to clear the carb. So the bike sits really high in the back. I was looking at buying the 82 250r durablue axle.

[gumbyspeed]

Also i am waaaay outa my league with carb jetting. Any thoughts or ideas will be greatly appreciated.

[hang&rattle]

Really cool. And no kiddin', that would make the ultimate ice racer/flat tracker. Cool fab and neat rig!

[gumbyspeed]

Some new pics-

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[bcredneck]

i havent seen a 82 axle but ive seen a 83 250r and a 200x the rear cariers are totaly differnt the 200x swing arm dont look veary strong it would be alot better to use a 83 swing arm and axle there built alot stronger it may be better too cause the shok is in the swingarm and it mounts low so it wont be in the way of your carb and you can use a air box and i realy think your
cr 500 motor will destroy the original swing arm and the chain tenchioners

[hang&rattle]

^83' swingarm sprockets do not line up, it will not work. And all Honda race bikes have the same tensioning system. They are used in the ATC 500R, bored 350x's (400+cc), and even Tecate (with only 1), and they are not destroyed. Just be careful of misinforming someone as it may be very costly and cause difficulty.

[gumbyspeed]

I am going to use a durablue axle. 82 250r axle and 83-85 200x are interchangable all u have to do is just have to flip it over.

[gumbyspeed]

Bad news today! Just found out the 35 tooth rear 200x sprocket that was a key item was discountinued by sunstar. Anybody know where i can find a 35,36 tooth sprocket?

[bcredneck]

find one from a dirt bike and drill new holes and the 200x i looked at had chain tenchioners on the swing arm bolt a 83 250r has off set rear berings to tighten the chain and you can flip the axle over do what you want but i still think it would be stonger and a smother ride
with a 83r rear swing and it woulnd get in the way of a air filter

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[SUPERBEAST]

theres a 34 tooth rear sprocket on ebay right now for a 86/87 200x, not sure if those will swap or not

[gumbyspeed]

thanks man but they dont fit.

[SUPERBEAST]

well i just looked again, maybe the guy has it listed wrong because its a 5 hole sprocket and the 86/87 sprocket is 4 hole right?

[gumbyspeed]

dude i cant find it on ebay

[SUPERBEAST]

http://cgi.ebay.com/HONDA-ATC200X-1986-1987-34T-Rear-Sprocket-/130305736750?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e56d3c02e

[tj-1bad250r]

lol i cant wait to ride with you and keith this summer

[gumbyspeed]

todd check out www.CMSNL.com

[tj-1bad250r]

todd check out www.CMSNL.com

lol dude thats sweet are you gonna get some

[gumbyspeed]

Just waiting on some parts to get here. Cant wait to raise hell.

[sdb69z28]

sounds like you need swinger built... thats a cool project. How about one built from round tubing, it would be not too pricey and you can put a concentric tensioner on it from a bigger bike.

[swifty]

i think sprocket specialitys can make you one my spelling is pry wrong on specialtys

[tj-1bad250r]

Just waiting on some parts to get here. Cant wait to raise hell.

dont worrie buddy ill go slow so you can keep up

[rush_545]

awesome idea, i just blew up my 200x, hows it coming keep us updated more pictures

[gumbyspeed]

i could push my bike and put more miles on it than u ride your... OH trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro

[tj-1bad250r]

hahahaha ill bring a tow rope so i can tow ya back with the banshee...... i donnt wanna get the r muddy : )

[gumbyspeed]

friday beeotch! u better go this time

[bcredneck]

make a vid

[gumbyspeed]

got a ton of stuff lately. I finally got my 35t sprocket witch equals first ride tomorrow at noon!!!!! I must say that the Rebel sprocket is super nice.

[riverrat]

Im working on lowering the back 4". I had to move the upper shock mount back to clear the carb. So the bike sits really high in the back. I was looking at buying the 82 250r durablue axle.

That fits a stock 84' 200X swing arm?

[gumbyspeed]

yes the swingarm is totally stock

[gumbyspeed]

started it!!! holly effin loud! Problem #1, The clutch wont disengage, #2 I forgot to put a kill switch on the bike.

[gumbyspeed]

Tearing the bike back apart tomorrow. I have to figure out what's wrong with the clutch. I got the new clutch and other parts in. Busy day. Keep you posted!

[Ironbnder]

Im working on lowering the back 4". I had to move the upper shock mount back to clear the carb. So the bike sits really high in the back. I was looking at buying the 82 250r durablue axle.

If the shock is stood up more, it makes it really stiff. I done that on my cb350 conversion and it rode like a hardtail. I had to redesign the dogbone so I could lay the shock back down. The degree of lean has a direct relation to spring rate.

[gumbyspeed]

im actualy extending the swinger from the pivot side of the shock mount. That will push the mount back and lay the shock down a bit.

[gumbyspeed]

Ok its been a lil bit since I gave an update. Well here it is. I took the bike for the maiden voyage a couple hours ago. This bike is quit scary, at 50+ mph I was able to just kick the bike sideways with no effort at all! The power hits like a punch in the face. I tried my best to jet the bike... but I have zero experience doing this (never owned a 2 stoke before). It's crazy to think the bike will be more powerful when it's jetted right. The clutch problem was that the springs were to stiff. It was bending the pushrod. Put in OEM springs and a new pushrod and it's all better.

[gumbyspeed]

Got my new black rear plastics today will put them on this weekend and post pics. Maybe video if i can figure out to post it.

[riverrat]

pics please

[mi500]

the guys over at CR500riders.com could probably help with the jetting issues.

[taiterator]

PICS! X owner

[HONDA_ATC_FREAK]

must see video :drool: you should black it out and paint a black widow on the tank and call it the widow maker you could have that pinstriped on the side of the tank.:twisted:

[cr480r]

I suspect the exhaust may cause some jetting/power issues.. I'd try to get a 500 pipe on there.. inframe prefered.. may have to trim some cooling fins..

[gumbyspeed]

Took the bike out for a snowy ride yesterday. I need to do something about the pipe. Its loud.... crazy friggin loud! I just left of the hospital with high frequency hearing loss in my right ear. Not even joking around.

[lazybiker79]

WOW where some ear plugs... post a video, I'd love to see it.. whats up with the jetting maybe I can help.

[gumbyspeed]

The bike is a lil boggy the low to mid rpm's. Want to change the pipe to a 500 pipe before i really get into the jetting hard. Does FTZ still make drag pipe? Or should i just do a Pro circuit and trim the fins on the side of the motor?

[riverrat]

You know what you should do? You should get someone to help you posts pics of this thing on here, because ALL of us would really love to see it so we can share in your joy. :D :D :D

[JasonB]

that thing is sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gumbyspeed]

I got a new computer and i have no clue how to use this thing. Ill have my wife do it for me.:crazy:
PS the name of this bike from day one has been the SUICYCLE

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOTY_4zPO8

First start. Fuel was off. Crappy cell phone video. Will post way more and better quality.

[riverrat]

Thanks! No muffler? That must be loud as hell.

[gumbyspeed]

Ok sorry for not posting anything in a long time, but i got busy with life (im now a father). I have decided to run the bike fulltime at my local 1/8mile track. The bike run the 1/8 @ 101.6mph. With jetting issues, cant open the throttle past 3/4. The bike now sports a FTZ high rev pipe with no silencer.

[mi500]

awesome, pure awesome. when you get it dialed in it will graduate to badass.

[JasonB]

101 mph on that thing!!!! dang dude, just wow. You need an extended swinger, how hard is it to keep the front end down during passes?

[gumbyspeed]

im basicly laying on top of the tank for the whole pass. It needs wheelie bar in the worst way! Tomorrow is race day boys and girls.

[just ben]

I went out just to see this thing run yesterday only to find out it was cancelled at the last minute. will you have it out there next week?

[gumbyspeed]

yeah i was pist

[gumbyspeed]

The bike will be down for a week or two. For pitbike front end with scooter tire mod, and wheelie bars. These are a must for my saftey. That 23x8x11 front tire looks like its friggin explode over 70mph.

[badass350x]

Do you have it back together yet???

[just ben]

yeah is it back together? I can bring out one of my t3's. It won't be much competition but will still be two trikes runnin down the asphalt

[gumbyspeed]

No not yet. Im been wait on front end parts for like a month.

[JasonB]

any updates on this monster? I want to see completed pics lol

[gumbyspeed]

Yeah got some new updates. I took it to do some grass dragin. They put me in an outlaw 2 stroke class. I did ok. I was up against people who have like 15k banshees. The wheelie bar makes it a lot less scary and now it brakes the tires lose all through first gear on dry asphalt. Here's a video from the race... of course I miss a shift in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNSuYRH26cM

[just ben]

I was gonna go to shawnee but I went to majestic that weekend instead. my stator went after 15 min. of riding I should have gone to the races, 15 mins. would have been goodfor a couple runs atleast

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[audioworks04]

Looks pretty good, have any times yet? Do you know what pipes those are on that banshee in the background? They look kind of like paul tuners, but look like they are mounted way way low.

[gumbyspeed]

Not sure about the pipes. That grassdrag wasnt timed. They only time the sleds, because they are sooo important.

[PINHEADED]

That is the coolest thing i've ever seen,my dad was going to put a 400 in his trke but still a work in progress.

[gumbyspeed]

thanks man.

[ATC-Eric]

Pretty cool!

[gumbyspeed]

I am thinking about selling this bike.

[gumbyspeed]

saddly i have sold the bike. Some day i will build another.

[fabiodriven]

I'm kind of glad I didn't see this thread until now. That thing could very well be in my garage right now had I seen this before you sold it.