whats the dif. between 85 86 and 87 big reds?

[rancher man08]

my problem is i have all three model honda 250 es big red trikes and my 86 factory honda manual only covers models 85 and 86 so is there any difference between those two and the 87?

[MonroeMike]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/zrcz8t

[dougspcs]

Did I hear you correctly..you live in the US and somehow own a 1987 Big Red? I thought the government ban took place before the US release..

I was recently told the NOS engine I have is 1987, but I thought they didn't exist in the US, just a few that came from Canada before the government here also banned them..

Do I have my history correct? How many 1987s exist there?

I'm new to don't mind all the questions...

[thestud25]

Did I hear you correctly..you live in the US and somehow own a 1987 Big Red? I thought the government ban took place before the US release..

I was recently told the NOS engine I have is 1987, but I thought they didn't exist in the US, just a few that came from Canada before the government here also banned them..

Do I have my history correct? How many 1987s exist there?

I'm new to don't mind all the questions...

There are several 87 models. I have a 87 Big Red as well. Honda released 87 200x, 250sx, 250es, 125m. Kawasaki released the Tecate 250 in 87 as well.

[tri again]

I found an orig owner 87 BR ( I think they made 4,000 +) but not sure if that number is worldwide or usa.
THAT one is chained to my concrete floor.

I have a handful of 85 model sx and br , but haven't really dug into the differences.
Starter gear assemblies look different from the outside but all these machines just feel different.
Even identical models/years.

Someone surely knows the actual differences.

What I don't see is very many 86 model years.
say, over the last year for sale? 30-40 1985 models to ONE 1986 but I know they made a ton of them.

You might be able to search for 'production numbers'.

[Fungo Wizard]

Well I have an 85 that needs some help, so if some of you guys that have a barn full of parts want to get rid of anything I might be interested.

[3wheelsinPA]

Rear brake assemblies are different from 85 to 86, I believe the axle is different too.

[tri again]

oh yeah, I forgot.

The waterproofing of the rear axles and differential is Much weaker on the 85 models.

[dougspcs]

Diffs weaker in what respect 'drjoe'? I haven't seem much chatter about this..

I have no issue that I am aware with my 85, but is there something I should look for as a preventative beside diffrential oil change?

[rancher man08]

big thanks 2 monroemike i just got this 87 for $50 all it needed was 4 rear wheel studs where im from trikes arent worth much any more so i get em real cheap im now an avid collector of the honda trikes

[tri again]

Diffs weaker in what respect 'drjoe'? I haven't seem much chatter about this..

I have no issue that I am aware with my 85, but is there something I should look for as a preventative beside diffrential oil change?

oops, sorry.

The 85 years had problems keeping water out of the rear axles/differentials and the 86 87 are better sealed.

I run my 85 models thru the water all the time. I have no choice but to go thru a creek but I don't 'soak' them, I just run thru the creek.

I check and change my differential oil all the time and never noticed water in there.

If you're going to buy one, it's the first thing I would check. No fun to take them apart because of water damage.

If your diff oil doesn't look like chocolate milk, you're probably good forever.

There's only 3 point 3 ounces of 80 wt hypoid gear oil in there so like 1/2 a coffee cup and costs virtually nothing to change it.

[thestud25]

Let's see pics of your 87!

[dougspcs]

'rancher man' you bought a 1987 Big Red 250 for $50..was the guy you bought it from sniffing glue?

We have to see this..post some pictures.

[Mondexbrute]

post up some pics of the 87' please!

[captainweezy]

"big thanks 2 monroemike i just got this 87 for $50 all it needed was 4 rear wheel studs where im from trikes arent worth much any more so i get em real cheap im now an avid collector of the honda trikes "

Speechless

[matt3x]

You couldn't pick up a tumbleweed for $50 around here, let alone a 3 wheeler. Damn nice find.

[rancher man08]

i got some pics of when i stripped the rear fenders and rear rack fenders to restore it it needed a front fender front headlight front rack seat cover metal gas tank decals and paint alot of cleaning as it sat in a barn for a looong time before i bought it and a few other little nick nacks to be factory mint condition i`ll post them tomorrow after work gots 2 find my camera 2 down load the pics

[Thorpe]

Nice score!~ My 85 diff has never had a drop of water in it, and I am not afraid to ride it in the water...(must be lucky)

[rancher man08]

can i photo bucket photos on here?

[rancher man08]

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa407/foreman8/016.jpg

[rancher man08]

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa407/foreman8/014.jpg

[rancher man08]

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa407/foreman8/015-1.jpg these are the pics from when i stripped the rear fenders and rack to paint it i put one of my foremans rear wheels on it 2 ride it out of my shop to my out building they were closer than my big red wheels call me lazy.lol i ran the vin before i bought it because $50 sounded to good to be true but it wasnt it was a 1987 and wasnt stolen

[rancher man08]

before any body ask i do have the plastic side plates and all i just took all the plastics off the rear so i could paint i need to get pics of how it looks now its factory restored except the metal tank front fender font rack and head light on it now are off an 86 with 87 decals

[dougspcs]

Cool..send us some after pics when you are done..

[Tri-ZNate]

different rear ends, seat color and decals was about it.

[Thorpe]

I have a nice front rack for a ES in my garage... PM me if your interested...

[broook]

The 85-86 differences are all in the book. Completly different rear end is the main difference.
The 87 has a different cam chain tensioner.

[xlover]

kinda of topic but i just got a near mint 83 200e i did some trading and all togater i have about 25 bucks! in it ill try and get some pics soon

[Trikeboss]

About 2 years?