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YoungJay
04-13-2011, 10:18 PM
i got a 1984 225dx it was running today i took the covers off the trike, to find were my power wire was for my starter and checked everything couldn't find were im not getting no power to my starter, or to my kill switch or starter button, Then i jumped the starter wires blew the fuse then put a new one in, had power befor the fuse and after so i dont know what is going on, Then I put it all togather then NOW!! im not getting spark coil is magnetized but no spark Can any one please help me im going to trike fest in 2 days and no trike atm PLEASE thanks
YoungJay
04-14-2011, 11:32 AM
bumppppppp
RubberSalt
04-14-2011, 12:05 PM
I have a feeling no on is answering due to the fact everyone is confused by the statement above. Try making it more clear. I'd like to help but it's hard for me to grasp everything that your saying.
What cover is that you took off? is your batter dead, dead battery wont give spark or crank engine over.
Your lighting coil resistance should be 0.34 ohms +- 10% these are yellow and black wires coming out of the flywheel side of the engine
charging coil should be 0.4 ohms +- 10% White and black wires on flywheel side
Pick up coil 196 Ohms +- 10% white/red and white/green
Charging coil is 381 +- 10% brown and black
The ignition coil, before the spark plug should reed .85ohms +- 20% This is for the primary widings. The seconday sould read 5.9k ohms +- 20%.
You may have cooked your CDI. And your solenoid might be whats keeping your starter from turning over.
YoungJay
04-14-2011, 12:27 PM
the battery had power and i have power to the fuse and after the fuse the took the fenders and all that off to get to the wires but i dont have power going up to my kill switch or starter button i dont have power going to my starter relay i tryed to jump power to it and after that it blew the fuse i put a new one back in and it didnt blow but now im not getting spark no more plus its got a pull start but when the key is on and kill switch on run i pull it to see if i get spark i get nothing.
fabiodriven
04-14-2011, 12:33 PM
I have a feeling no on is answering due to the fact everyone is confused by the statement above. Try making it more clear.
This is correct.
To the OP, ever heard of punctuation? Holy rambling crap Batman.
YoungJay
04-14-2011, 12:46 PM
This is correct.
To the OP, ever heard of punctuation? Holy rambling crap Batman.
trying to get my trike fixed was in a hurry sorry for making yall read it so close and get confused?
YoungJay
04-14-2011, 02:52 PM
i bypassed the kill switch and still no spark the people i took my coil to said it was reading high i checked to see if i got power to my coil and i dont i get power to everything eles but that the orange wire/hot dont have power and the battery has power in it, it cant be the CDI i hope becuase it blew the fuse that it had and i put a new one in it, and i got power all thru the bike except to the coil any one please help i would be very grateful thanks.
YoungJay
04-15-2011, 12:33 PM
bumpppppp =]
Bretmd94
04-15-2011, 12:59 PM
I can't understand a thing your typing.
I have a feeling you struggled in writing class.
I know with all my 185's and 200's in the past the coil was the main culprit for electrical issues.
RubberSalt
04-15-2011, 01:58 PM
YoungJay, you need to punctuate. Most guys on here don't want to try and understand what your saying. It makes things a lot more clear to all of us. It allows us to comprehend the problem and allows us to help.
Is your starter working yet? Do you have a fouled plug? Is there power to your CDI?
A fouled plug will not spark. Also, your coil (i have not looked at the schematic for this bike) may only be charged up when your bike is running, it could be making it's power off the voltage regulator. Is that orange wire you don't have power too going to the voltage regulator?
YoungJay
04-15-2011, 03:20 PM
I can't understand a thing your typing.
I have a feeling you struggled in writing class.
I know with all my 185's and 200's in the past the coil was the main culprit for electrical issues.
umm yes i kinda did i GOT A.D.D Thank you very much.
YoungJay
04-15-2011, 03:23 PM
I've got power going to mostly everything but my coil and starter relay, I had my coil checked out and they said its reading HIGH i don't understand that but no spark at this time. I've tried to check to see if i am getting power to my cdi box but i cant figure out what wires are what at this time, a buddy of mine has a sled that is doing the same thing and it's his CDI box, Plug is good just no power going to my coil Nor any spark. I don't know were the voltage regulator is!!!
sorry for the bad writing :(
MonroeMike
04-15-2011, 04:35 PM
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/oldsite/files/Wiring/YTM225DXKDXLDXN.jpg
acidburn
04-15-2011, 04:44 PM
LOL had to post this sorry.
http://rlv.zcache.com/i_have_adhd_oh_look_a_squirrel_mousepad-p144575472313763555trak_400.jpg
fabiodriven
04-15-2011, 05:44 PM
umm yes i kinda did i GOT A.D.D Thank you very much.
Well I'm not looking to catch anything (else). Punctuate please.
Xpress
04-15-2011, 05:48 PM
Yes, please punctuate. I've got plenty of friends with ADD and ADHD, they can punctuate.... ;)
tri-Z ripper
04-15-2011, 05:50 PM
@fabbio :lol: do you have a voltage meter that reads resistance? if so download the free manual.
MNATC
04-16-2011, 01:42 AM
To quote: "I've got power going to mostly everything but my coil and starter relay, I had my coil checked out and they said its reading HIGH i don't understand that but no spark at this time. I've tried to check to see if i am getting power to my cdi box but i cant figure out what wires are what at this time, a buddy of mine has a sled that is doing the same thing and it's his CDI box, Plug is good just no power going to my coil Nor any spark. I don't know were the voltage regulator is!!!"
I had an issue like this on my '89 Hawk GT (going motoscicle on this) everything had power, push the starter button, nothing. Road the bike all day, no issues, ran like a top. Pulled in to get gas, fill up, hit the start button, nothing. Not a click. After trying to push start it and nothing, a trucker came over. We checked everything over, he had a volt meter, everything was getting power. EXCEPT, where the batt lead to the coil was corroded, which runs a lead to the starter. Ground to anything else, started right up (cleaned up the terminals, back in business). If everything else has power, except to the coil, check the ground. It could be as easy as a loose ground wire not completing the circuit, or a corroded ground/power connection. Trace the wires, and check out the free manual section, it'll have schemtics in there that you can then go back and check your wiring. Best of luck!
muthey
04-16-2011, 02:39 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you might have cooked your cdi, as you don't need a battery to run the trike , the only thing the battery will power up is the green neutral light, and the starter. with the starter, sometimes the neutral indicator switch starts to act up and you have to lift on the shift lever to get it to crank, but first we have toe get you running again. I would take your cdi down to a shop and see if they can test it for you. Otherwise you burnt up your stator when trying to jump it. Attach a volt meter set to ac to the wires coming from your stator/ alternator and see if it gives you any voltage if it does, then it could be your cdi. Make sure your battery isn't connected when doing this you don't want any false readings.
bcredneck
04-16-2011, 02:46 AM
LOL had to post this sorry.
http://rlv.zcache.com/i_have_adhd_oh_look_a_squirrel_mousepad-p144575472313763555trak_400.jpg
thats brutal i have adhd and it dosent mean we are stupid it just means we think differently if you did that to me in person i give you a good smack to the head
YoungJay
04-16-2011, 06:04 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you might have cooked your cdi, as you don't need a battery to run the trike , the only thing the battery will power up is the green neutral light, and the starter. with the starter, sometimes the neutral indicator switch starts to act up and you have to lift on the shift lever to get it to crank, but first we have toe get you running again. I would take your cdi down to a shop and see if they can test it for you. Otherwise you burnt up your stator when trying to jump it. Attach a volt meter set to ac to the wires coming from your stator/ alternator and see if it gives you any voltage if it does, then it could be your cdi. Make sure your battery isn't connected when doing this you don't want any false readings.
Yeah im going to take it off next week im going to trike fest today so im renting a 4wheeler i know 4 wheeler, Only thing i can get on short notice ill try that thank you muthey
YoungJay
04-16-2011, 06:05 AM
thats brutal i have adhd and it dosent mean we are stupid it just means we think differently if you did that to me in person i give you a good smack to the head
lmao yes i know when i was in writing class i couldn't focus =[ guess it is coming back to kick me in the butt
YoungJay
04-21-2011, 02:43 PM
called a few places, they said they cant test CDI's they told me its probably the Coil. I'm going to swap out the coils later in the week.
acidburn
04-21-2011, 02:53 PM
i have add too and i dont find it offensive guess trailprotrailpro just weak at heart.
YoungJay
04-22-2011, 07:50 PM
i have add too and i dont find it offensive guess just weak at heart.
I dont know who asked for your input all i need is help on my trike no need to trip out.
Dirtcrasher
04-22-2011, 07:56 PM
When I was a kid, there was no such diagnosis as "ADD" or "ADHD", we were just ACTIVE or HYPER..............
Leave it to medicine to come up with new terminology...
muthey
04-23-2011, 01:48 AM
I thought of another thing to check as well there is a relay that might have gone bad,and a voltage rectifier/ regulator, I know the rectifier allows charging to the battery, but it also passes juice to the system as well and the relay haven't chased it down to see what it actually controls yet, so might want to check on those as well, relay should be easy to replace, and the last thing I can think of to try without buying any new parts is to unhook your ignition, it will run without it connected. Might have moisture causing a constant grounding which will kill the spark.
YoungJay
04-25-2011, 09:13 PM
ive got power to everything but my cdi box ppl saying bad wire?
YoungJay
04-28-2011, 08:29 AM
bumppppp =]
ridered86
04-28-2011, 09:18 AM
So sorry if you already clarified this, but do you not have power TO the CDI or not have power COMING FROM the CDI?
YoungJay
04-28-2011, 05:26 PM
i dont have none going to my CDI like the CDI plug and the voltage rectifier/ regulator but to everything eles
muthey
04-28-2011, 10:37 PM
I'm thinking maybe stator and regulator fault, or a bad wire coming off of them, also might want to check for a bad ground somewhere or wire
YoungJay
05-01-2011, 06:38 PM
went on ebay and bought all of CDI, coil, startor solenoid, and voltage rectifier/ regulator wire harness an all the goodies pretty much the whole wireing for the trike hope this fixs the problem :D
ridered86
05-04-2011, 11:56 AM
went on ebay and bought all of CDI, coil, startor solenoid, and voltage rectifier/ regulator wire harness an all the goodies pretty much the whole wireing for the trike hope this fixs the problem :D
Let us know if it fixes it man!
YoungJay
05-04-2011, 10:19 PM
sure did was the CDi box plus put a new spark plug in it and runs like a camp, then all of a sudden my push start breaks and i went to pull start it and pull start brakes was so mad yelled and it and say ill put u up for another month and push start started working :DDD
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