question about the recoil starter

[ATCmudderTY]

I have 1984 honda 200m. What does the battery need to be connected to for just the recoil/pull start to work? The electric start is garbage b/c the previous owner tried rewiring it and screwed it up.

[JustEnough]

I have a 84 200M that runs fine without a battery, so if yours does not, other parts of the wiring must have a problem. Wire brush all of the electrical connectors starting with the primary coil; that will usually get it running.

[ATCmudderTY]

well thats the thing....none of the wiring is hooked up right now. I pulled the motor to replace gaskets and took all the wiring out with it. If you're able to tell me what wires go where to/from the coil and what not that would be great.

[zackwhite]

i can help u with this i did it all to mine

[ATCmudderTY]

if u could help me thatd be great. I just need to know what wiring goes where for the recoil starter to work. I dont care about the electric start I just want the d$@# thing to start!

[zackwhite]

do u want trailprotrailpro lights to work as well

[JustEnough]

Making a wiring harness is a lot of work. I am a cheapskate and I still buy a used harness off ebay before I would make one.

[zackwhite]

its not that hard after u do it a few times

[MonroeMike]

Wiring diagram.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=85511&d=1261802136

[ATCmudderTY]

No lights do not have to work. I just it to start so I can enjoy it. Ill figure out lights and all that later on. And ive tried reading the wiring diagram but since the previous owner screwed everything up it is not the same.

[zackwhite]

well let me look over and ill try and find a way to help u

[ATCmudderTY]

thanks alot!

[zackwhite]

ok do u got trailprotrailpro wires to do the work

[ATCmudderTY]

ya i got plenty of 16 guage wire will that work

[zackwhite]

w.e wire came off the bike is wat ull want.

[ATCmudderTY]

ya i still have the wire harness

[ATCmudderTY]

I just need to get power to the coil so it will start with the pull cord

[ATCmudderTY]

Anyone know what I should do? Im supposed to go riding this wknd and id hate to miss out cuz my trike wont start

[zackwhite]

im working on it,trying to do up the page for u.u wont ahve lights or battery just pull

[zackwhite]

and u got a cdi unit that has wires going in it.make sure u got the colors in the right spot to

[JustEnough]

I have used a 185 harness as a troubleshooting step to start my electric start 200's. That is the simplest wiring that it will run on. The problem is that the electric start stators output over 12v and depend on the voltage regulator to keep it at 12v. I have heard that you can fry the CDI if it is run unregulated.

When I was running my 200M on a 185 harness, the headlight would get really bright when I revved the engine. I stared at it like a chicken staring at a shiny marble, until the headlight bulb went pop.

[zackwhite]

200s dont ahve a starter on it or the 185.the wireing wont all work either the cdi units r not all the same

[ATCmudderTY]

im working on it,trying to do up the page for u.u wont ahve lights or battery just pull

Thanks thats perfect

[ATCmudderTY]

Im sure one day I will get a new wiring harness for it so I can have electric start again I just dont have the money to spend.

[zackwhite]

ok im sending u a pic of a cdi unit tell me if u got the same thing

[zackwhite]

well maybe if i can find out how

[ATCmudderTY]

The image in your message didnt appear. But here is a pic of my cdi and a pic of the coil. The wires coming from the cdi black, black/yellow, black/red, blue/yellow, and green

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n314/cooliojrty/cdiunit2.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n314/cooliojrty/cdiunit3.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n314/cooliojrty/coil.jpg

[zackwhite]

ok good u got it there makes it so much better

[zackwhite]

ok trailprotrailpro green is trailprotrailpro ground so put the blue and green wire on the cdi on the top end where they go and u got 1 black wire comeing from the pull cord part plug that in.and put the green and black that gos to the on and off swetch.make sure u got the green on the coil and do all that send me a good close pic and il let u no if u got it all right

[ATCmudderTY]

I cant get a good pic right now bc it is in the back of my suv and theres not alot of room. But heres what I have right now
blue/yellow wire and green wire go to the top end
black/red wire goes to right next to the pull start
black wire goes to the key switch
black/yellow wire goes to the coil

[zackwhite]

ok u should have a g wire on trailprotrailpro coil with a scrow going in it for ground .and the lil push on wire for the coil is black and yellow.trailprotrailpro pull cord wire yes is black and red.trailprotrailpro switch is black and u need the green wire there to.try that get trailprotrailpro wires all set and try starting

[ATCmudderTY]

everything is hooked up besides the green wire going to the key switch. Mine only has one spot to plug a wire

[zackwhite]

u dont need a key just the black and green wires going to the kill so u can turn the bike on and off .if u got it all like that try starting it and if it wont see if u can get pics and ill see

[ATCmudderTY]

so could I use a switch like this one?

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n314/cooliojrty/switch.jpg

[zackwhite]

no.i dont think that wood work.u dont got the switchs for the bike on the handle bar

[ATCmudderTY]

no the previous owner removed it.

[zackwhite]

ok try useing a car kil switch with 2 lil ends and put the black on 1 and green on other and try and see if u can get it that way.other thne that i wood say u need a switch.