84. ascott 500

[zukdude]

Hello all. Well recently I found a rather large collection of trikes. I bought the 250rtires as you can see in my other post no.There are are no 350x,s unfortunately but there is a ascott 500 1984 I believe does anyone remember these they were built from xl 500 endures by ascot out of callifornia I believe.I've tried to get pictures but the guy is starting to loose his mind and thinks I am a government agent or something everytime I pull out my phone to take a pic he starts yelling anne ask me to leave.It is a delicate situation he has no family and is dying from cancer..I don't take advantage of him at all and offer a fair price but he is asking $5000 for the ascot and I don't know if its worth it any ideas? Thanks Damen

[jb2wheels]

$5k for a Honda FT500 Ascott? Um, no. $500 maybe...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_FT500

Maybe I misunderstood and you're looking at a custom framed, true race bike with an XL/XR 500 engine. Possible, but I bet you're looking at a plain Jane 500 Ascott.

[Jon Boy]

I've tried to get pictures but the guy is starting to loose his mind and thinks I am a government agent or something everytime I pull out my phone to take a pic he starts yelling anne ask me to leave.

have you tried to tell him the pics are for the historical value and documentation? so even if he doesn't want to sell maybe putting it that way he might be a little more open to things.

[RapidRick]

The cleanest FT500 I've seen on the west coast has been just under 2000 and that's the Honda street bike. If I remember correctly there was an authentic circle track FT500 racer in the Phoenix area a couple of months ago and it was around 3500, I think.

But if you saw the bike you'd know weather it was a racer or a street bike.

[just ben]

I don't think the op is talking about the failed streetbike ascott. but a custom trike made by ascot. I have never heard of them nor do I know chit about hondas but if you read his post ......

[RapidRick]

I don't think the op is talking about the failed streetbike ascott. but a custom trike made by ascot. I have never heard of them nor do I know chit about hondas but if you read his post ......

So your point is what?

Oh, I'm sorry I missed it.


I have never heard of them nor do I know chit about hondas ......

Below in not your average, run of the mill street bike and it does have an ascott FT500 motor in there.

[zukdude]

You are correct it is a trike built by ascot not the street bike. I have done some research and found they only built 23from of them.But im not sure I want to pay $5k

[RapidRick]

Well that's really interesting now.

A trike, huh.????

A conventional trike or a sidehack?

No wonder the guy is paranoid, I wonder what you've stumbled onto???

[HuffieVA]

So your point is what?

Oh, I'm sorry I missed it.

Maybe you should read the original post a second time... "... built from a XL500 ..."

With that being said... I know alot of guys on here know alot, but at the same time I'm pretty confident there isn't one of them that knows it all... (like it or not that's an all inclusive statement)

[atc500x]

84 ascot are V30 twin motor so they are VT500,the ft500 is 1982-83 model,with the similar motor based on the 1980-81-82 xl500

[RapidRick]

Yep and the FT500 was an electric start.

Oh, you memories collectively are obviously better than mine. I don't remember an "Ascot" company in southern California, but a race track in Gardena, California called "Ascot Park" a famous dirt track raceway where I watched several AMA GNC races before it closed in 1990.

[zukdude]

It is built using the xl 500500 frame engine and gas tank every thing else is from a 200x except the back fenders are fiberglass I remember drooling over one in phoenix az at camelback honda dealer. Sorry for the grammar my spell check is going crazy

[atc500x]

It's exactly the motor I have in my 500X

[RapidRick]

Thanks for the clarification Zukedude. Those are strong motors I've got several of them from XL XR FT bikes and have and do run them in trikes.

[zukdude]

Thank you I agree they are great motors I've had several.this bike is extremely rare I know but I don't think 5k rare plus im a rider not much of a collector the rear fenders are fiberglass is what scares me the most I will try my best to get pictures

[RapidRick]

Well, to give you some perspective, there was a Nicholson 500 with a built 580 engine in it that was on Ebay today and didn't get a bid at 4,000. It is an excellent trike with very good documentation and the current owner is a respected member of this board.

If that trike didn't sell for that price, it would be difficult for me, personally to spend anything more for, in my mind for something similar. IMHO.

The glass fenders wouldn't personally bother me, I ran glass fenders several seasons when I raced in the desert down here in southern California.

I'm anxious to see the pics too.

[jsmay]

it's only money... seriously if you are considering it, just go for it. when will you finda another. Don't get me wrong I'm not rich or trying to spend your money. but if your thinking about it......go for it. It will be killer and it's a rare bike. It's christmas time...you deserve it.

[RapidRick]

Thanks for encouragement...I have a sister to it already.

[Joseph Farrow]

You are correct it is a trike built by ascot not the street bike. I have done some research and found they only built 23from of them.But im not sure I want to pay $5k

Anyone ever see one of these Ascot FT500 Trikes?

[Joseph Farrow]

Could it be???

206635

[ironchop]

Could it be???

206635

where did you find that?

Looks like a Duck Dynasty motif on the tank but the rest is pretty interesting

[RapidRick]

Well that's very cool. An early Nicholson 500 frame with an ascot motor. I started a similar project but stopped when I realized I'd have to either cut the frame member that made up the foot pegs to allow for the wet sump or figure out a dry sump configuration which still required cutting the same cross member.

Nice battery installation and I'll bet the sound of the straight pipes were really cool.

Interesting tire combination.

Nice paint on the tank.

Bet it goes faaaaaasssssst with a small rear sprocket. Doesn't look like the front tire is street thought, that would be troubling.

Still have the two FT500 motors and Nicholson frame I started with. LOL

Nice catch on the image Joseph, and yes 2x where did you find the image?

[HairyJR]

Joseph, that what I call a tease, only one pic......gotta see more :pics:

"HJ" :beer

[Joseph Farrow]

Nice catch on the image Joseph, and yes 2x where did you find the image?

It is now in my possession. :)

I was turned on to the bike by White Tail Hunter. It was down in his neck of the woods in Florida. I had a friend pick it up for me and he got in with it yesterday. Haven't had a chance to really check it out. I dropped it off over at my parents shop. Had Christmas functions last night but going by later today to take a closer look at what I have.

It was an early Christmas present to Me and My Brother. Been looking for a Nicholson framed bike.....really want a 185/200.

Have Big plans for this bike. Really cant believe I now own an early Nick 500. :beer

*** I'll post more pic's later. ***

[Mr. Clean]

Awesome trike, yes more pics please!!

[RapidRick]

Great find. Good to hear you found one.

Yes I'd be interested in the carb setup that is there.

[jb2wheels]

great score!

[Joseph Farrow]

Still haven't had a chance to go over and check out the bike.....
Just too busy with work and the Holidays. I'm going to my parents for Christmas tomorrow evening and I'll get back there and take a closer look.
The story is the guy I bought it from Step Father purchased this bike and another bike new and has had it all these years...... His step father is now close to 90. He said he sold the other bike several years back. He purchased them to ride around on his property. He claims the mileage on the speedo is correct at 92 miles. It's hard to tell from the pic's but the swing arm, shock springs, axle, motor mounts and the side cases were all chromed. The tank is from a Suzuki and the rear fenders are fiberglass. The paint is definitely period correct early 80's style. It does have a signature on the tank. If anyone recognized it please let me know. Also it has some interesting wording on the fenders. On the back it has "Big Moe".....and on the side it has "Rocket POP". The paint is in really good shape for its age. The owner did have West Coast connections. He was friends with someone with ties to the NBA and traveled from California to Florida.
Interesting bike for sure. Does look like it was set up for the street but the front Goodyear is kind of a strange choice. Although it does have a wheel weight like it was balanced. lol
Wish I knew more about the history. The son could not get much out of his step father. He kept going back and forth on if he really wanted to sell. Fortunately he did.
Check out the pic's I have so far and you guys let me know what you think.


These pics are from the other day.

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