My '85 Tecate Rebuild Resurrection with some cool parts -Does this look right to You?

[TatTooL23]

ok been working on this a bit already but decided to start a thread now. i bought 3 first gen tecates (an '84 & two '85's) throughout the last couple years. they were all very cheap and all had much redneck love and molestation. i paid less then $900 combined for all 3. i figured i could go through them and build a really nice one for myself and part out everything else. some have had some very good stuff on them. and some....not so good. one had the Franks +2 eliptical swing arm, and one had an original durablue +6 axle. so those along with some parts i bought and a lot of sandblasting and powder coating loving i should be able to have a real nice KXT250.

for some reason i did not take pics of these as i received them. probably good i didnt cuz it would have scared small children. i have some pics of them as i piled them into my garage and start taking them apart but the plastics and tanks and some other little stuff were already removed.

you can also c my garage up here where i live progress as i have needed more things rather then the big garage where i keep all my stuff.

so tear down and assessment begins:

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[John 4]

Sweet! Looks like my garage except I'm workin on a tri z. I can't wait to see more.

[Fungo Wizard]

I need some plastics if your parting with any!!!

[TatTooL23]

i think i do have some. u need front and back?? if i have some they will for sure be "rider" condition. let me know. i have a lot of other parts too, lol

[Fungo Wizard]

My front is servicable Previous owner cut a hole in front, but rears are toast. Rider condition is what I want. The ones I got on my bike are missing the complete right side.

[TatTooL23]

so here is the frame i am keeping to use. one of the other ones is broken pretty bad then tried to be welded together, and i powder coated and sold the other frame.

this one just has to have the radiator hose loop that goes on the front down tube welded on. other then that it is in amazing shape. no dents, cracks, bends, and even the underside is nearly un touched.

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[El Camexican]

Having seen some of your other projects I can’t wait to see what this looks like buttoned up. Thanks for sharing!

[MIK6]

whats up w the top triple on the green frame before teardown??? is that something different?

MIK6/ Mike

[TatTooL23]

whats up w the top triple on the green frame before teardown??? is that something different?

MIK6/ Mike

no it was stock just plain aluminum color. r u talking about the very first pic?? i c what u mean it looks like a big bulky plate of aluminum like "another" triple we have seen before. but its just the way the light is hitting it. nothing special there

[MIK6]

Yep.. I was talking about the 1st pict.. it looked like something special at first LOL

MIK6/ Mike

[TatTooL23]

hey Mike, u have a good amount of experience with tecates right?? i would like to show u a pic and c if u think its right. i pressed my lower steering stem bearing onto the stem and triple. but it appears to not be all the way down. i am really not sure. i cant seem to get it any lower. ill take a pic and post it. if u or anyone else could chime in and let me know if it looks ok that would be awesome.

[JasonB]

awesome, i will be looking for the finished bike. I do love some green trikes. Going to rock a drum on the front?

[TatTooL23]

awesome, i will be looking for the finished bike. I do love some green trikes. Going to rock a drum on the front?

Lol. No way. Disc brakes all the way. F that old crap!

But u know what's funny. Out of my 3 first gen tecates, 2 have disc up front ('85's) and the other has drum ('84) and the drum is the only one that worked. Lol

[Fungo Wizard]

Funny you should mention the drum working. When I got mine the other day the drum worked perfectly too. LOL

Lol. No way. Disc brakes all the way. F that old crap!

But u know what's funny. Out of my 3 first gen tecates, 2 have disc up front ('85's) and the other has drum ('84) and the drum is the only one that worked. Lol

[TecateDan]

I rock a drum on a 500 tecate so all who's not run a drum should quiet down. Unless hard mx will be raced a drum is better than a disc front

[TatTooL23]

aaaaannnnnnnddddd if u r in mud and water all the time. drum doesnt do too well when it fills with pebbles and sand and mud. lol

[atc007]

I LOVE drums,,being a Honda rider, mine were always spotless clean even after repeated dunkings. Discs are out in the open 24/7,365. Chevy has finally gone away from discs on the rears of the Silverados 07 and up in favor of drums. Love my drums :) For this build I completely understand sticking w the disc :)

[TatTooL23]

So here r the 3 motors. All with a different kick lever of course. Can someone please tell me which one, if any, is stock and should be there??

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[TatTooL23]

And I'm aussuming it's not the middle one. Lol

[MIK6]

Rt one is stock...

MIK6/ Mike

[oldskool83]

alot of kickers interchange, i know I had a kx 250 kicker on a kdx175

[TatTooL23]

Rt one is stock...

MIK6/ Mike

Ok great. Thanks man.

So check this out. One of the motors has an exhaust bridge. The other 2 don't. I'm assuming maybe it's a KX cylinder. Also has a ton of port work done. Not really sure if it's any good. But sure is a lot dug out. I thought the exhaust side was supposed to be highly polished for a turbulence free exhaust exit.

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[hadar]

+1 for the drum. I've noticed that the drum on my 84 stops much better then the disks on my 85's at least when it's dry out.

[just ben]

It is a kx cylinder. it looks like an amateur port job. how does the intake side look?

[atc007]

Whoever the heck ported that KX cylinder needs to PUT THE DREMEL DOWN AND STEP AWAY . What a mess!!! Spankin new Wiseco in there though :)

[Mickey Dunlap]

I LOVE drums,,being a Honda rider, mine were always spotless clean even after repeated dunkings. Discs are out in the open 24/7,365. Chevy has finally gone away from discs on the rears of the Silverados 07 and up in favor of drums. Love my drums :) For this build I completely understand sticking w the disc :)

69' Ford with drum:w00t:

I sure wish someone had a old Jimmy White race bike we could see.:wondering:naughty:

[oldskool83]

i always thought port and polish went together like ice and cream. I guess whoever did this forgot the 2nd step. I would rather let some things up to people who really know about this since its kind of an art in my mind.

[nstyle73]

I'm not condoning what went on with that dremel, but there are varying opinions on the polish portion from some major engine builders.

[atc007]

69' Ford with drum:w00t:

I sure wish someone had a old Jimmy White race bike we could see.:wondering:naughty:

Me too,Now that would kick ass. Ya know,, I think I recognize the work in that KX cylinder now That I think of it... He's only a few hours from me too, but TECHnically only does 4Strokes :lol::lol::lol:

[JasonB]

At the very least you have a fresh piston peaking out lol

And the middle engine I'm guessing is a kx500 kicker. Just guessing

[Mickey Dunlap]

Me too,Now that would kick ass. Ya know,, I think I recognize the work in that KX cylinder now That I think of it... He's only a few hours from me too, but TECHnically only does 4Strokes :lol::lol::lol:

TC Racing?:wondering:lol:

[atc007]

I dunno ,I only see one plug in the head. Sorry Ryan,some of these factory guys lol :lol::lol:

So,is this Tecate gonna be black?

[TatTooL23]

The engine will be and some parts here and there.

What r u guys talking about anyway? Y o u r jacking my thread.

[atc007]

I apologize, back to regular programming :)

[TatTooL23]

Lol. Honestly I don't care. I'm just kidding. I'm not one of "those"

But I really am wondering what u guys were talking about.

[Mickey Dunlap]

Yea! what are you posting about anyway? If you have something to post make your own thread!:naughty::lol:

[atc007]

Man, tough crowd. I 'm glad you're cool with it Ryan lol :) That makes me feel better.. I was sincere with my apology :)..If Mr Fast keeps up with me here ,maybe you'll get as many views as a Fabio thread! Seriously can't wait to see the end result here :) Mick, he is wondering what in the heck you are talking about?

[TatTooL23]

Ok carry on u old men. Ill keep up with my build

So here is one of the rear shocks that was in one of my tecates. Anyone know what it is or anything about it? I mean it may not even go to a Tecate. The spring seems to be very short. The preload is cranked way down and the spring is still loose. So maybe it's not a Tecate shock and they had to keep trying to adjust it just to get it to hold the trike somewhere rideable.

What do u think?

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[Mickey Dunlap]

Man, tough crowd. I 'm glad you're cool with it Ryan lol :) That makes me feel better.. I was sincere with my apology :)..If Mr Fast keeps up with me here ,maybe you'll get as many views as a Fabio thread! Seriously can't wait to see the end result here :) Mick, he is wondering what in the heck you are talking about?

I can answer that if you need me too,but it comes down to pissing you off enough to get you to jump in that old truck of yours to come down to kick my ass! Then since you are making the trip,bring me one CT 70 (Gold color) a SX 250 so I can build a 4 valve 390cc motor,and last but not least I need a 86 250r roller with short track tank set up for the crf250 motor. So? do I tell them,or are you coming down?:naughty::lol:

[jb2wheels]

That looks just like the 85 Tecate shocks I have except for the spring. Mine are all black (rust & black) and longer.

[El Camexican]

Ok great. Thanks man.

So check this out. One of the motors has an exhaust bridge. The other 2 don't. I'm assuming maybe it's a KX cylinder. Also has a ton of port work done. Not really sure if it's any good. But sure is a lot dug out. I thought the exhaust side was supposed to be highly polished for a turbulence free exhaust exit.

Judging by that shiny piston and the absence of crud on those porting craters I’m willing to bet that engine was never run after it was last put together. You may have a diamond in the rough there if the guy did the bottom end too. BTW rough intake ports (but not that rough) are considered by many to be OK for keeping fuel from pooling up, or forming balls, but the exhaust should always be polished (especially on a 2 stroke) to keep carbon from building up.

[atc007]

Without going down and comparing Ryan, you def have a Honda rear shock there. With measurements we could tell you for sure, but probably a 85 R by the looks. I would have to compare exit of the hose etc to be sure. But def a Honda shock. Mick, nobody said anything about a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro kicking,, Tackle lol. I will donate a 87 ! Sx for a 4 valve 390, DONE DEAL :) And if I ever get off this thing I have to go check for colors for ya :) And I don't have a OLD truck,,till you die :D:lol::lol:

[TatTooL23]

Judging by that shiny piston and the absence of crud on those porting craters I’m willing to bet that engine was never run after it was last put together. You may have a diamond in the rough there if the guy did the bottom end too. BTW rough intake ports (but not that rough) are considered by many to be OK for keeping fuel from pooling up, or forming balls, but the exhaust should always be polished (especially on a 2 stroke) to keep carbon from building up.

I thought the exact same thing that it looks to never have been run.

And with the exhaust bridge that confirms it is a KX cylinder correct?

Bill, I'll get some measurements.

[Mickey Dunlap]

Without going down and comparing Ryan, you def have a Honda rear shock there. With measurements we could tell you for sure, but probably a 85 R by the looks. I would have to compare exit of the hose etc to be sure. But def a Honda shock. Mick, nobody said anything about a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro kicking,, Tackle lol. I will donate a 87 ! Sx for a 4 valve 390, DONE DEAL :) And if I ever get off this thing I have to go check for colors for ya :) And I don't have a OLD truck,,till you die :D:lol::lol:

Good so there is no reason your truck won't make it here,see you next week.:D

Note to self: Get something on more members they don't want said on the forums,it shuts people up and you can use it to get free stuff.:naughty::w00t:

[atc007]

I'll have to review this VERY carefully to see this odd word. FREE ?? lol.. Donate as in I get the SX back after R&D :) I WAS planning on giving you a 70 if it's the right flavor. I thought 10 guys would have jumped in to exactly what that rear shock is by now. Mr Troublemaker included,, I guess you're like me, If it's on a quad it's more familiar :(

Edit, just saw the reservoir, def NOT 250R..

[Mickey Dunlap]

I'll have to review this VERY carefully to see this odd word. FREE ?? lol.. Donate as in I get the SX back after R&D :) I WAS planning on giving you a 70 if it's the right flavor. I thought 10 guys would have jumped in to exactly what that rear shock is by now. Mr Troublemaker included,, I guess you're like me, If it's on a quad it's more familiar :(

Edit, just saw the reservoir, def NOT 250R..

Would you quit messing up this guys thread! You are making me look bad!:(

When you "Donate" to Good Will,do you get it back,NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

The R&D was done a long time ago.

[atc007]

You're right. I DID start this didn't I :wondering. On a serious note,,I just got back in and forgot to look at rear shocks. My guess is tonight some guru who's built 5 of these since I have will chime right in. My guess is swaying CR shock ?

[just ben]

without a doubt it's an 85 ressy and is certainly a t3 shock. without measurements it' hard to say what year.

[TatTooL23]

Ok good to know. Again all 3 tecates have different shocks so I could compare them and say ok these r the same so must be stock. I just saw how short the spring was and thought it might be something else. And I don't have my two '86's in the same garage to compare. But I will try to measure it tonight.

[TatTooL23]

Ok since I don't have the measurements of that shock yet cuz I worked way too late.... Here is some other big time eye candy!

The franks elliptical tube +2 swing arm. Was in really good shape other then they spray painted over the original blue and then put oem decals on it. But I returned it to all its glory. Sand blasted it, powder coated it, and out new repro decals on it then pressed in new pivot bearings and seals. I love it.

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[just ben]

The swing arm looks great! The shock will measure around 14 3/8 (if I remember right) measuring the shock body is what will tell what year it is. The spring is not correct and will be useless with the extended swinger. Your gonna want to use an 86 spring or buy a new spring all together.

[TatTooL23]

Thanks man. Yeah I'm actually not using that shock at all. I thought there was a chance it was aftermarket, that's all. I might be running a 300ex shock

[atc007]

What a beautiful piece!! Great work :)

[El Camexican]

Boing!!!!!

[TatTooL23]

without a doubt it's an 85 ressy and is certainly a t3 shock. without measurements it' hard to say what year.

Shock measures 14" eye to eye.

Spring is 7 3/4"

[jb2wheels]

Sexy. More trike porn at work...

[TatTooL23]

hese is the frame all ready to go. along with the rear hubs.

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[TatTooL23]

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[TatTooL23]

does this look right to you??

this is the steering neck, the bottom triple tree and thats the seal. is that supposed to up inside the frame neck more? i had some issue pressing the steering stem bearing but thought it went down as far as it could go. just wanted to ask if anyone knows if that seal should be up inside the lip of the frame. or if the gap there is too big and the bearing needs to go farther down on the stem.

let me know. thanks.

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[TatTooL23]

on its way to a roller. will be going through the rear end next. the durablue +6, and shock mounts.

do u guys think i should do the carrier the same green as the frame?? or black?? the axle will be chrome and linkage pieces black.

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[atc007]

Green,but,you'll go black :)

[stroberts22]

I would do the carrier in the same blue you done the swing arm.

[Paule]

Tell me about your PC oven! I like the frame rack. The swingarm look beautiful. Here is a quick shot of my old Tecate in the works.173671

[6speedthumper]

Very sweet build. Love the green and blue. Personally, I'd go black on the carrier. You'll be surprise how much contrast it adds to the machine.

[El Camexican]

I would do the carrier in the same blue you done the swing arm.

What he said

[Dirtcrasher]

Screw it, it all looks great from where I sit!! :D

[TatTooL23]

I really don't want to do the blue because then it blends in with the swing arm and doesn't come off as two pieces. But this may be what looks best who knows. I hav a few of the carriers I suppose I could do them each a different color and c how it looks. Lol

[atc007]

I also agree with the blue,I retract my green. I think it might look a little gawdy that way.

[xrider]

I'd do green. Gotta have the contrast.

[yaegerb]

I would do black to match the tripples, pegs, and swinger peripheral hardware.

[Eric250R]

What about white for the carrier ?

[Jason125m]

Great build so far, Id go with black for the carrier..

[El Camexican]

Can a T3 carrier be polished or is it steel? There is a chrome powder coat that can be used on steel as well.
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[sixpackrt]

Looks like a cracked bridge

173725

[jeswinehart]

Isn't there supposed to be some kind of chain slider on the swing arm at the pivot ?

[TatTooL23]

Looks like a cracked bridge

173725

Yes I thought the same thing. Seems it got so chewed out that it cracked

[TatTooL23]

Isn't there supposed to be some kind of chain slider on the swing arm at the pivot ?

Yes it does need one. I mean I still have to put the swingarm bolt through the motor too so ill have that slid back out anyway.

And I don't remember if I have a slider in my totes of parts. So I'm holding off on buying one until I go through my stock pile. I have bought parts I already have way too many times at this point. Lol

Do u make them John??

[jeswinehart]

I admit I did not look at all your pictures Tat so this morning I was looking at some more and see in post #50 of yours you do indeed have one (that looks to be in pretty darn good shape).
I was assuming your Franks swing arm used a different style of chain slider but I see Mr. Franks incorporated the stock design into his product.
I don't think you will need one from your pictures but in case you do, yes we make + have some on hand.

NICE build ! john

[TatTooL23]

I would love a brand new one. Can put an old used one on there. Lol.

Do us have a thread about them? I don't c them in the store.

Oh and I also need u to do the flywheel for me.

[cochran]

This build ever get finished??

[jeswinehart]

I would love a brand new one. Can put an old used one on there. Lol.

Do us have a thread about them? I don't c them in the store.

Oh and I also need u to do the flywheel for me.

I couldn't find my own thread about them either ???? (got a couple of encapsulated flywheels on hand for exchange)