84 atc 110 ski attachment project

[hokeplaya05]

hey guys figured i would post up my ski project i did last year for my 110.
last spring for my senior mechanical design project, i was tasked with designing and building something that would improve upon something that already exsists. so i had been wanting to build a ski attachment for my trike, so i figured this would be good for this project.

so i started out sketching and then modeling some ideas on the computer using SolidWorks 3D CAD software. once i came to my final design i then got all the materials (snowmobile ski and front axle from a 110 off ebay, and some rectangular steel tubing and some scrap metal i had laying around my house) and set to work. i wish i had more photos of the build process but this is what i have.

here i am mocking up the ski:
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2012-04-23_18-51-56_803_zpse108c5d5.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2012-04-23_18-51-56_803_zpse108c5d5.jpg.html)

here is the finished product, loaded up in my truck to go to school to make a presentation:
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/1347303078416_zpsf70de4db.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/1347303078416_zpsf70de4db.jpg.html)

and here is the first attampt at testing after the first snowfall:
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2012-12-18_19-03-25_699_zps9a3b4d5b.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2012-12-18_19-03-25_699_zps9a3b4d5b.jpg.html)
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2012-12-18_19-03-46_337_zpseeda655a.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2012-12-18_19-03-46_337_zpseeda655a.jpg.html)

i say attempt because i could get the damn thing started to test it for the first time, turns out when i took the carb off, one of the choke blade screw was gone, so i looked all around and and then took the intake manifold off and sure enough there it was, lodged in the intake valve. so i ripped the top end apart and rebuilt it which took all winter and didnt get it running again until april of this year, so needless to say i havent been able to test it accept pushing it back into my barn.:Bounce. so now i cant wait for the snow to fly this year to test it out.

let me know what you guys think!

[hokeplaya05]

no one?????

[CodyRosa]

I like it, good job! I've actually been wanting to mount a ski on mine.. you up for building one for a 200x =) haha. Its a shame you weren't able to try it.. please let us know once the snow actually hits. Maybe toss some snow tires or paddles on that thing.

[NO-SCALES]

Looks good man, hope it works better for you this year

[King Trikester]

sweet, I was thinking about doing that for my dx, you just inspired me. I saw a pic of a 200x with skis yesterday. That is my goal in the next couple years, a 200x or 350x with tracks and a ski. Cheap mans snow machine probably a lot funner as well

[Ghostv2]

I saw someone else do this before on a trike. It was a pic in his sig.
And they do make tracks for atv/utv but they are super expensive.

[hokeplaya05]

thanks guys! yea i cant wait to try it out. i want to make my own tracks as well, i was thinking of trying to use the tracks off of a snowblower or something like that. but they are also fairly expensive, but i am keeping my eyes peeled on craigslist for a set.
like this:
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/imagesCAC2SFN7_zps23be0375.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/imagesCAC2SFN7_zps23be0375.jpg.html)

[MonroeMike]

...i was thinking of trying to use the tracks off of a snowblower...

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/93069-ATC70-Snow-Track

[coolpool]

Nice job on the ski! I'm thinking of using a spade blade for a shorter and wider stance. I'll put two carbides on so it will grip while turning.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=167856&d=1366473927

Here's a pic of my 70 with Noma Canadiana snow blower tracks on it from my album.

[Bren_downe]

That's pretty cool man! I love the three wheeler ingenuity goin around.
Just to let you know scootertrash did it last winter too.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/154980-My-Weekend-project-Trike-ski-*-NEW-VIDEO-ADDED*?highlight=Scootertrash

[Ghostv2]

That's pretty cool man! I love the three wheeler ingenuity goin around.
Just to let you know scootertrash did it last winter too.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/154980-My-Weekend-project-Trike-ski-*-NEW-VIDEO-ADDED*?highlight=Scootertrash
That's actually who I was referring to in my precious post. Couldn't think of his name.
It's quite funny though, your building something like this and you think wow, who else would ever do it? Turns out to be like a handful of people.

[hokeplaya05]

thanks guys for the feedback, i will keep this updated when i get to doing tracks, but i probably wont be for a while, i want to see how it handles snow with just the ski


http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/93069-ATC70-Snow-Track
that is actually the thread that gave me the idea for snowblower tracks


That's pretty cool man! I love the three wheeler ingenuity goin around.
Just to let you know scootertrash did it last winter too.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/154980-My-Weekend-project-Trike-ski-*-NEW-VIDEO-ADDED*?highlight=Scootertrash
that is cool, i knew i saw a couple around that had home-made skis, and these things dont handle deep snow very well, so i figured it would be a good senior project

[MatthewBuckrell]

that's sweet. I was considering making one for my 200x. then cutting up an old snowmobile track and wrapping them around the wheels on the back

[Ghostv2]

See the thing is he was using snow blower tracks on a 70. This is a little bit bigger and I feel the tracks would be too small for it. Your clearance would then drop to like 1".

[hokeplaya05]

yea, i am looking for a bigger track than the set on that 70. like the pic i posted, those look bigger than the set on the 70

[Ghostv2]

Maybe. See if there is any other machines out there that use a track set up similar to that.

[Latitude42]

Looks damn cool, I think I'm gonna try that but with two skis, side by side...

[MonroeMike]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/59437-YTM225-Mod-!!-A-fun-day-in-the-shop-...?p=417754#post417754

[hokeplaya05]

Looks damn cool, I think I'm gonna try that but with two skis, side by side...

go for it, it was a lot easier than i thought it was going to be. i way toying with the idea of two skis, but figured that would make it too stable and therefore less fun to ride lol

[hokeplaya05]

alright guys, a little update....got the machine running the other day finally, had to clean and rebuild the carb and it started right up. got some snow last night so i decided to put the ski on and take it for its maiden voyage. it handles like its on rails in the snow compared to having the tire on, i love it! it doenst really work on the road though, like a snowmobile doesnt turn very well either, snapped a few pics....
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2013-12-26_14-44-38_483_zps6xc6fkrd.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2013-12-26_14-44-38_483_zps6xc6fkrd.jpg.html)
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2013-12-26_14-44-17_844_zpsstgjtqyx.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2013-12-26_14-44-17_844_zpsstgjtqyx.jpg.html)
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2013-12-26_14-36-01_452_zps73diqige.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2013-12-26_14-36-01_452_zps73diqige.jpg.html)
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2013-12-26_14-32-09_957_zpsm0hsc6w7.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2013-12-26_14-32-09_957_zpsm0hsc6w7.jpg.html)
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r637/hokeplaya05/2013-12-26_14-31-55_498_zpsahx4wysr.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/hokeplaya05/media/2013-12-26_14-31-55_498_zpsahx4wysr.jpg.html)

next up is to figure out how to build/adapt a set of tracks for the rear. traction is still somewhat of an issue and i also cant go on the snowmobile trails because i have wheels (got kicked off a trail last year lol). i am going to keep a lookout for on ebay and cl for a set for a 4 wheeler, i think the tracks for a snow blower would be too small after seeing one that my friend has.

[czac]

so now i cant wait for the snow to fly this year to test it out.

let me know what you guys think!

...And if you don't post a VIDEO of that puppy sliding through the snow like a one ski, Sit on top sled... we will be forced to hunt you down and make you let us all ride it around!!! lol,lol,lol... it looks great BTW... I really wanna see it working...

[czac]

next up is to figure out how to build/adapt a set of tracks for the rear. traction is still somewhat of an issue and i also cant go on the snowmobile trails because i have wheels (got kicked off a trail last year lol). i am going to keep a lookout for on ebay and cl for a set for a 4 wheeler, i think the tracks for a snow blower would be too small after seeing one that my friend has.

what about tire chains? maybe?

[czac]

next up... you should sell kits for these! lol

[afdfirefighter]

Posted this on another thread also, but my uncle will be making a dual ski set for the front of the 250es big red i am selling him and also my 250es if everything works out. Deft doing the tracks on the back eventually too.

[czac]

so does the ski or skis actually make steering in the snow easier or not because I remember riding snow mobiles as a kid and still having to lean way over to turn.

[hokeplaya05]

...And if you don't post a VIDEO of that puppy sliding through the snow like a one ski, Sit on top sled... we will be forced to hunt you down and make you let us all ride it around!!! lol,lol,lol... it looks great BTW... I really wanna see it working...

what about tire chains? maybe?

so does the ski or skis actually make steering in the snow easier or not because I remember riding snow mobiles as a kid and still having to lean way over to turn.

i will be sure to get a video posted when i get a chance, i was thinking about tire chains, but i think tracks would be so much cooler lol, but chains are definitely worth a try. i havent tested it in deep snow yet but with a couple inches it does really well. but like i said, on anything other than snow, it doesnt steer at all, like a snowmobile. in deep snow i think it will be limited to whether the rear wheels can keep traction, which is why i want tracks, because then it will be unstoppable :twisted:

[hokeplaya05]

Posted this on another thread also, but my uncle will be making a dual ski set for the front of the 250es big red i am selling him and also my 250es if everything works out. Deft doing the tracks on the back eventually too.

that will be interesting to see how the handling of one ski compares to two skis. i had debated doing a two ski set up, but to me two skis make it stable and too much like a four wheeler, and wheres the fun in that? lol