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rg97
10-06-2013, 08:03 PM
Hi
Just looking for your opinion and the opinion of the community
I know that some people have said that their love for trikes comes from the vintage-ness and the nostalgia, whereas other like things that perform up to par with modern ATV's (i.e. TPC trikes). What do you think?

edit: if this is in the wrong sub-forum, sorry

kzr800
10-06-2013, 09:13 PM
I think it would be cool.....But, I don't think there is a market to support the R&D it would take for the companies to produce something competitive. If any of the manufacturers decided to produce them, I would assume it would be in limited numbers and models. They would most likely be high performance machines and would mostly appeal to the old school crowd, racers and people who ride in the sand.

honda200x1987
10-06-2013, 09:17 PM
We all know it will probably never happen but I would buy a new one in a heartbeat but only if they still had the same look. I would buy a new 4 wheeler today if they would build a new TRX250R with the same styling as the 86-87 88-89, engine, fenders and all. In my opinion the 250R would out sell all the sport model ATV's they have today, not to mention the engine and other parts would benefit all of the ATC250R enthusiasts. Just like the automotive industry, where they built the new Camaro and the Shelby mustang . I believe Honda would greatly benefit by using the iconic designs from the 1986-89 TRX250R, 200X/350XATC250R and built a brand new ATV. They wonder why they have 450Rs sitting on the showroom floors from 2009,lol. As for the ATC's, if they went back into production ,that would be a wish come true and I would be first in line to buy one. Also be the first to buy a TRX!

Vealmonkey
10-06-2013, 09:51 PM
This is just too funny. You don't know how many times I have seen people offer to make parts or make parts, and so many people say they want the items, and then bow out leaving people on the hook. Those that want new trikes, are getting units made. Most people who dream, just don't have the means to follow through, i.e. CASH! The people who are seriously interested, have already been making their dreams come true. There are several people that have built and sold different trikes and parts and such, and I thank them all. Some have built their own, which I find truly remarkable. But for people to think the major makers are going to go back and build something that most people don't want, it ain't happening. The big 3 were all too happy to end trike production and devote their time and money to quads. If you want to build a new trike, their are several on here who will help you, but you have to open up the wallet.

dougspcs
10-06-2013, 10:26 PM
Unfortunately there is one simple truth to why trikes will never see mass production again..economics!!

No manufacturer will ever design, tool-up, and bring to production a machine that has such a high probability of being banned due to public outcry over safety concerns(again)!!

No company would make take that gamble! Especially with quads being so popular.

Ghostv2
10-06-2013, 10:48 PM
This is just too funny. You don't know how many times I have seen people offer to make parts or make parts, and so many people say they want the items, and then bow out leaving people on the hook. Those that want new trikes, are getting units made. Most people who dream, just don't have the means to follow through, i.e. CASH! The people who are seriously interested, have already been making their dreams come true. There are several people that have built and sold different trikes and parts and such, and I thank them all. Some have built their own, which I find truly remarkable. But for people to think the major makers are going to go back and build something that most people don't want, it ain't happening. The big 3 were all too happy to end trike production and devote their time and money to quads. If you want to build a new trike, their are several on here who will help you, but you have to open up the wallet.

To elaborate on vealmonkeys post a little, no Honda will never bring them back. You don't know how many threads have been brought up about this. If your looking for that modern trike with that old honda look, behold the 2013 TPC 450r. I believe they start at like 9 or $11k? But of course they can be improved with more money. Or you buy the kits yourself.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/coloredname1/null_zpsf437049d.jpg

Would I like to see a new ATC in production? No, because I wouldn't have enough money to buy it and I like being able I buy these great machines for what they go for now.

Now what I would like to see is the popular replacement parts being put back into production. :naughty:

KASEY
10-06-2013, 10:49 PM
YOU WANT A NEW TRIKE,,,,,,loke the man says get out your wallet,,,,,,,, just build one.. its the only way!!!!!


http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/0921131103a.jpg

Ghostv2
10-06-2013, 10:53 PM
YOU WANT A NEW TRIKE,,,,,,loke the man says get out your wallet,,,,,,,, just build one.. its the only way!!!!!




Hand over your wallet to this guy, he has some amazing builds. You just got to search for them. Then you'll have a brand new performance machine or a great looking one of a kind toy. I'll stop with the flattery now.

Marty
10-06-2013, 11:47 PM
we cant even get the manufacturers to continue making parts for ATC's let alone a complete bike! It would be cool would I buy one to be honest no, wife would make me get rid of 4 just to buy 1!

C.J
10-07-2013, 12:20 AM
It would be real cool but it won't happen. Cool but I like having an old OG machine. But if you still want a "new trike" ...... If you can't beat em....... build em...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/23/apy2ytuh.jpg

Just busy out Microsoft paint, ask a couple questions, and wait for parts to start showing up............

(Yes I know the TPC and Mr. Rirchard's bike look better SHUT UP FOR A YEAR OR SO AND WAIT!!! Lmfao):lol:

Caminofeld
10-07-2013, 12:36 AM
Those TPC's are SWEET!!! Realistically the big manufacturers have no incentive to re-release or build new ATC's, but I would like to see a small company or machine shop (hell, even someone with a mill or CNC in their garage) offer pieces to adapt new quad and DB parts to the old ATC's (ex: custom triples to convert to inverts, adapters for new rear shocks, engine conversion kits, etc). If TPC isn't seeing a huge market for their trikes due to the [understandably] high price tag, maybe they could offer a DIY kit that would work with some older model quads for the budget-minded triker (myself included). Just my humble thoughts...

Louis Mielke
10-07-2013, 08:06 AM
Modern trikes can be built inexpensively with smart shopping and a little know how. If you don't have the equipment, or friends with the equipment, but have plenty of money obviously a TPC is an easy way to own a modern trike but you can definitely build one economically. To be fair I believe you can get a build it yourself kit from them for $2600 but still the prices for a turn key trike from them seem to be a little exuberant. I can only assume it's because they're trying to make money.

I built my 450 for just under $3000 including buying the quad, having the triple trees CNCed, forks, tank, shrouds, headlight, raw materials needed, shipping a few items around, buying my buddy welding supplies. etc etc.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/projects/pbr450r/IMG_0169_zps56b6448b-1.jpg (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/louis_mielke/media/projects/pbr450r/IMG_0169_zps56b6448b-1.jpg.html)




Those TPC's are SWEET!!! Realistically the big manufacturers have no incentive to re-release or build new ATC's, but I would like to see a small company or machine shop (hell, even someone with a mill or CNC in their garage) offer pieces to adapt new quad and DB parts to the old ATC's (ex: custom triples to convert to inverts, adapters for new rear shocks, engine conversion kits, etc). If TPC isn't seeing a huge market for their trikes due to the [understandably] high price tag, maybe they could offer a DIY kit that would work with some older model quads for the budget-minded triker (myself included). Just my humble thoughts...

MonkOFox
10-07-2013, 08:53 AM
It would be cool... for the 3 people on this site that would own one. But the OEM and after market prices would make them frown. Well, maybe. If you have 3 - 11k to drop on a custom (newly manufactured in this case) trike it might make you smile. I like trikes the way they are, old as hell and without a market. There's a reason I could go pick up a 200s for $75 and I like that. To put it in perspective, this site's members probably have ~90% market share.

The fun thing about three wheelers is you can pick them up cheap, usually just clean the carb and change the oil and they fire up. Then you can drop a couple/few hundred dollars and have a machine with old school reliability.

ericmreimer
10-07-2013, 10:35 AM
I'd love to see both sport and utility being built. A "new" Big Red based on the new independent rear suspension Rancher. Yep, I could see that as my new ride!

Kintore
10-07-2013, 10:49 AM
Im easily under 2g Total for my 04 Tionesta Trikes 450r, with some horse trading, and having some awesome friends. There are a few people around here that will help you. Its the only way its going to get it done.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h25/JoshTriZ/6.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/JoshTriZ/media/6.jpg.html)

Big G
10-07-2013, 11:11 AM
Man, those are some very nice 'homemade' 3 wheelers. But for the most part I only see race style trikes. Anyone know if, or have pictures of, home-built utility trikes?

C.J
10-07-2013, 11:34 AM
Im easily under 2g Total for my 04 Tionesta Trikes 450r, with some horse trading, and having some awesome friends. There are a few people around here that will help you. Its the only way its going to get it done.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h25/JoshTriZ/6.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/JoshTriZ/media/6.jpg.html)

Dude you're in this months DirtWheels,,,,,

Ghostv2
10-07-2013, 12:06 PM
Man, those are some very nice 'homemade' 3 wheelers. But for the most part I only see race style trikes. Anyone know if, or have pictures of, home-built utility trikes?
Now that is something i would like to see, but no. I have not heard or seen of any being built. A few ideas thrown around since i have been here though, such as a rear independent suspension on a big red.

RIDE-RED 250r
10-07-2013, 05:17 PM
We all know it will probably never happen but I would buy a new one in a heartbeat but only if they still had the same look. I would buy a new 4 wheeler today if they would build a new TRX250R with the same styling as the 86-87 88-89, engine, fenders and all. In my opinion the 250R would out sell all the sport model ATV's they have today, not to mention the engine and other parts would benefit all of the ATC250R enthusiasts. Just like the automotive industry, where they built the new Camaro and the Shelby mustang . I believe Honda would greatly benefit by using the iconic designs from the 1986-89 TRX250R, 200X/350XATC250R and built a brand new ATV. They wonder why they have 450Rs sitting on the showroom floors from 2009,lol. As for the ATC's, if they went back into production ,that would be a wish come true and I would be first in line to buy one. Also be the first to buy a TRX!


Please don't anyone take this the wrong way. But I really don't see the Japanese culture as into retro and nostalgia as much as the American culture. And I mean this completely demographically. Their culture is just different. Do you think their parents/grandparents were doing the same things ours were in the 1950's with hotrods and whatnot?? Just as one example. I think they for the most part are much more forward minded. Always looking to design the next major improvement and/or groundbreaking technological wonder...I just cannot envision any major Japanese corporation taking the "bet" there will be a significant market to sell nostalgic/retro/old-school-cool the way the domestic auto makers have...

Just another angle I see....

KASEY
10-07-2013, 08:41 PM
Tionesta Trikes built a great little trike out of a new trx250 quad I am sure it would fit the utility trike category

TecateDan
10-07-2013, 08:56 PM
My onl;y problem is I hate 4 strokes and want a new 500 2-stroke... Will never happen in my life

ps2fixer
10-08-2013, 09:02 AM
Im easily under 2g Total for my 04 Tionesta Trikes 450r, with some horse trading, and having some awesome friends. There are a few people around here that will help you. Its the only way its going to get it done.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h25/JoshTriZ/6.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/JoshTriZ/media/6.jpg.html)

When are you going into production? I'd be happy to buy a used 450r trike for $4k (in a couple of years after the house is paid off) lol.

Kintore
10-09-2013, 03:58 AM
Dude you're in this months DirtWheels,,,,,

LOL thanks, I get the monthly subscription. Its hanging on my wall with the other frames

ditchmud
10-09-2013, 06:04 AM
178633
I got my TPC last week! $10,501.00 I had to work on it a little bit to get it to run, but I like it so far. It's fast as heck. I'm gonna hire some pro riders to win me some trophies on it.

C.J
10-09-2013, 06:17 AM
My onl;y problem is I hate 4 strokes and want a new 500 2-stroke... Will never happen in my life

I sent an email to TPC saying they should give a zilla chop a shot,,,, I got no response lol

ps2fixer
10-09-2013, 06:51 AM
178633
I got my TPC last week! $10,501.00 I had to work on it a little bit to get it to run, but I like it so far. It's fast as heck. I'm gonna hire some pro riders to win me some trophies on it.

That is great! It reminds me of a lawnmower I slightly modified to mud bog.... sadly donut spare tires don't do very well in mud :(.

CodyRosa
10-10-2013, 01:48 AM
It'd be awesome if they did but then again.. I could care less. When I see a quad on the side of the road I think to myself.. wow thats nice and then forget about it.. when I see a 3 wheeler I stare.. the entire time lol.. Basically I love the fact that there rare.. people stare at my wheeler and its not even that nice which is an awesome feeling! Knowing there's only so many left makes me cherish mine.. if they started making them i'd probably just start abusing the thing because there'd be endless parts.

Dirtweed
10-10-2013, 03:10 PM
I'd buy a new one. I'd also jump on a retro 1988 TRX250R redo. I sold mine back int he 90s and regret it to this day.

honda200x1987
10-10-2013, 08:05 PM
I agree 100% , I wonder if Honda will ever make 2 stroke engines again? Maybe a clean smoker?
I'd buy a new one. I'd also jump on a retro 1988 TRX250R redo. I sold mine back int he 90s and regret it to this day.

Dirtcrasher
10-10-2013, 09:18 PM
My onl;y problem is I hate 4 strokes and want a new 500 2-stroke... Will never happen in my life

Sure it could there buddy!! Service HONDA conversion :D

swampthang
10-10-2013, 11:53 PM
At least Honda is starting to get the retro color scheme back. Check out the red white and blue. http://powersports.honda.com/2014/trx450r/colors.aspx There isn't really any sport atv's being built today that interest me. I'm sick of all they cookie cutter 450 4stroke's. Boring. Been to a mx race lately? Does the sound of rev limiters and back firing drive you guys nuts? Not to mention the poor guy that dropped his bike in the corner and has to quit the race because he can't get the thing to restart. I miss 2strokes...

Dirtweed
10-11-2013, 08:51 AM
I miss 2strokes...

Same here. I was actually thinking of finding a 125 2-stroke dirt bike engine to stuff into the restoration
of my LT250s. I think I could fit the engine and the radiators in the frame. I'm just trying to figure out how
to get the pipe in there without destroying my plastics.

200x newby
11-11-2013, 09:52 PM
Sure it could there buddy!! Service HONDA conversion :D

Already working on an ATC500AF!

oldskool83
11-11-2013, 10:23 PM
will never happen, gotta build your own...even the TPC's are basicly a build it your own just your paying someone else to do some work for ya.

slashfan7964
11-12-2013, 03:17 PM
I wonder what would happen if someone shoved a 2 smoker 1000cc snowmobile motor in a dirtbike frame and converted it into a trike...


:)

oldskool83
11-12-2013, 03:19 PM
it wouldn't be very trail or ride able

slashfan7964
11-12-2013, 03:37 PM
it wouldn't be very trail or ride able

No, it wouldn't, but it would be badass as hell lol.

I could build it for drag racing as well. Local tracks allow ATV's to race on the strip :)

oscarmayer
11-12-2013, 03:49 PM
hrmm drop that 1000cc into a quad and race the "open" class. :w00t:

I wonder what it would be like to convert my 2011 YFZ450R quad into a trike. it's already fast as trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro stock. so if i turned it into a trike, wonder how it would do then.

El Camexican
11-12-2013, 03:57 PM
I wonder what would happen if someone shoved a 2 smoker 1000cc snowmobile motor in a dirtbike frame and converted it into a trike...


:)

This guy would come out and spank you.
180671

thcowboy
02-14-2015, 04:34 PM
New raptor 700 three wheeler?:Bounce:crazy:

83ATC185
02-15-2015, 10:16 AM
I wonder what would happen if someone shoved a 2 smoker 1000cc snowmobile motor in a dirtbike frame and converted it into a trike...


I saw a late 90s Polaris scrambler once with a 750 2 stroke snowmobile motor. He showed me around it and showed me what it could do. 80 mph with the front wheels off the ground I swore it was about to take off.

I'd never ride it.

Husky250
02-16-2015, 06:33 PM
My onl;y problem is I hate 4 strokes and want a new 500 2-stroke... Will never happen in my life

Yeah a 2 stroke guy myself!

j013N
02-16-2015, 09:35 PM
It'd be awesome if they did but then again.. I could care less. When I see a quad on the side of the road I think to myself.. wow thats nice and then forget about it.. when I see a 3 wheeler I stare.. the entire time lol.. Basically I love the fact that there rare..


Ramdom people stare too, there's a "nice factor" a four wheelers will never have and that a trike has. This past summer I was trail riding with my 200x and a bunch of people on sport quads. We passed by a young family on foot . They were pointing me on my 200x, smiling and not even giving a f*** of the raptor ahead , the predator and the outlaw behind. The only thing they spotted is me on my 200x slowing passing by and hanging my hand! I don't believe quad will even have that wow factor a trike has.