1984 200x build with pics.

[lokisbuddy]

Well it was in rough shape when I got it. but 1k in parts I think she will be a hottie;) Will post pics as I go waiting on a ton of parts from various locations all I got right now are the wiseco piston from my old xr its .20 over and I got dg pipe xr cam and ebc clutch.

[lokisbuddy]

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[lokisbuddy]

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[lokisbuddy]

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[slashfan7964]

Awesome build. Looks like at some point in it's life, someone put some 85 parts on it.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=185470&d=1391212227


This brings back a LOT of memories...I remember being that little kid on that same trike (85, see avatar) sitting in that same spot when I was young.

[lokisbuddy]

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[slashfan7964]

Is that the original piston? That's super clean!

[lokisbuddy]

185491 will post more tomorrow after sandblasting. 185492 that's me at work making parts for the new bmw (grill assemblies ) the machine is a j1900 injection molder

[DohcBikes]

Cool Man!! The 1st gen 200x is my favorite, I'll be watching the build!:beer

[lokisbuddy]

Is that the original piston? That's super clean! no the original was junk that is the piston I had in my xr its a wiseco .20 over

[lokisbuddy]

Cool Man!! The 1st gen 200x is my favorite, I'll be watching the build!

Slash -not sure if the pic above is appropriate? Two riders no helmets.... I see that they could be posing and just sitting on it.... I don't know the rules on that. yes that is a pose not even running and my boy is only 3 lol
Edit: he loves sitting on it and making race car noises... might have to get him a zinger

[lokisbuddy]

I can't wait till I can actually take him for a ride on it. will be less than 2 weeks from now

[slashfan7964]

Cool Man!! The 1st gen 200x is my favorite, I'll be watching the build!

Slash -not sure if the pic above is appropriate? Two riders no helmets.... I see that they could be posing and just sitting on it.... I don't know the rules on that.

Not my photo, I just reposted it from the OP.


yes that is a pose not even running and my boy is only 3 lol
Edit: he loves sitting on it and making race car noises... might have to get him a zinger

That would be pretty cool!

[lokisbuddy]

yeah I just put down 1.5k on parts so I can get to my cr250 and kx before spring lol I was lazy for a bit when I should have been prepping for spring. gotta put a pro circuit exhaust and rad valve on cr an rings in kx
BTW notice the drain below the atc in one of the pics? don't do that. took me 45 minutes to dig all the headtube bearings out of there when I pulled the neck apart...

[DohcBikes]

Loki on the steering bearings, you might already know this but you can get the tapered bearings for the 200x, they make turning smoother and they are more durable.

[slashfan7964]

Deleted for good measure.

[lokisbuddy]

hmmm can you post a link to those bearings please?
Edit: nvmi don't need a link I just found them on ebay got a set made by all balls for 30 bucks :) now all I am missing is a swing arm bolt

[DohcBikes]

Yep those are the ones! Of course be sure to knock the old races out of the neck, and take the bottom washer off of the stem before you install the lower tapered bearing or it won't fit quite right.

[DohcBikes]

As far as the swingarm bolt goes, here's a little eBay trick.....look for swing arms instead. Often times uneducated sellers will include the hard to find bolt WITH a swingarm, which usually sell for about $30. Then you have an extra swingarm to mess around with too!

[lokisbuddy]

As far as the swingarm bolt goes, here's a little eBay trick.....look for swing arms instead. Often times uneducated sellers will include the hard to find bolt WITH a swingarm, which usually sell for about $30. Then you have an extra swingarm to mess around with too! that's a good idea I could use another swingarm for a dual axel set up im making for track set up

[DohcBikes]

that's a good idea

Those are the only kind I have.....LOL not true.... but I should've said "sometimes" you can find them together.

Keep in mind that you can build and prep 90% of the trike before you NEED that bolt, so look regularly and I expect you will find a swingarm including a bolt before you know it. Good luck!

[lokisbuddy]

ty. I wont need the bolt for another week. its crazy they want 30 bucks for a bolt I could have maid for around 10 = 15
Edit: half my keys don't work right.

[DohcBikes]

I should have worded that differently, the bolt alone has been known to go for much higher than $30, but 84 and 85 200x swing arms are usually pretty cheap, and sometimes you get lucky and the bolts included.

[MNhondaguy]

I search 200x. Start at the cheapest, including auctions. People tend to sell all the bolts and random stuff together that goes fairly cheap. And I believe captainweezy has 200x he's parting on the for sale threads.

[lokisbuddy]

I ordered my bolt for 50 shipped... Well guys I started Sand blasting frame today and figured out halfway through that my old lady used my last 2 bags to fill holes in the yard (she thought it was black to match the dirt :crazy: well anyway project on pause till Monday. :cry: 185534185535185536

[lokisbuddy]

BTW guys my ebay user name is yenko1982 so if I have bought anything from you for this build, TYVM!!

[MNhondaguy]

Was the brand of sand black diamond? That would explain it too.... Haha

[lokisbuddy]

Yeah was black diamond lol.

[lokisbuddy]

Got her all painted, 2 coats rust inhibitor, 2 coats of primer, 1 coat silver base, 3 coats color and 16 coats clear... its like looking into a marble :) here are pics 185696185697185698185699185700

[lokisbuddy]

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[lokisbuddy]

185710185711 the old airbox tube replaced with stock thanks to Jsmay :) and the old 20lb grab bar I pulled off ordered prm grab bar.

[slashfan7964]

Are you planning on making this into a nice rider or?

[rg97]

Man you work so much faster than me LOL, do you not have a job or something? You work super quick and it looks amazing, I'm jealous!
It took me a week or so just to get the frame stripped down, and I can do my own blasting but I don't have a recycling system (i.e. a cabinet) so its not worth it to do the frame myself

I'm looking forward to seeing this finished as it is incentive for my own X LOL

[lokisbuddy]

I plan on making a trail bike out of her ultimately she will get a cr 250 engine but for now just a trail bike. I have a 600 grizzly that needs tires and battery, a 700 grizz that needs new tires and tune up, a gator that needs rings , a cr 250 that needs rings a pipe and a boyesen rad valve and a kx 80 that needs paint and rings then after all that I ha 5 sl500s that need put back together. so engine will have to wait I put a lot of dough into parts cant wait till they get here :)

[lokisbuddy]

Man you work so much faster than me LOL, do you not have a job or something? You work super quick and it looks amazing, I'm jealous!
It took me a week or so just to get the frame stripped down, and I can do my own blasting but I don't have a recycling system (i.e. a cabinet) so its not worth it to do the frame myself

I'm looking forward to seeing this finished as it is incentive for my own X LOL Yeah I work but its seasonal.
edit: I don't have a cabinet I just spray outside sand is 20 a bag used 3 bags.

[rg97]

If you don't mind, what rust protector/primer/color/clear coat are you using? I really like that setup and your results!
For the color I only need the brand because I am doing a different color than you are

[DohcBikes]

Lookin great man keep it up!!

[lokisbuddy]

dart inhibitor, house of kolor kosmic show klear and kosmic kolor urethane.

[lokisbuddy]

one thing I can say about this paint is make damn sure you get 0 moisture into the paint whether from gun or humidity this trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro likes to orange peel like a mofo

[DohcBikes]

Also ambient temperature wherever you are shooting the paint will determine the amount of orange peel you are getting. Colder it is the worse it is.

[slashfan7964]

Any ideas of what you want it to look like when it's done before you swap the motor? I have seen a CR125 motor swapped in, that was pretty cool.

[lokisbuddy]

yeah when I get my cr 250 put in it will have a +2 swinger +2 axle other than that it will be as is except on a dif frame with motor mounts modded and it will have a moded pro circuit pipe. gonna be a lot of work. thinking liquid cooled not for sure. if I go liquid she will change drastically.

[slashfan7964]

I've never been a fan of extended swingers but the +2 axle might be cool. Will definitely be an interesting build for sure.

[lokisbuddy]

temp was no problem. even the floors of my garage are heated :) 185721185722

[oldskool83]

looks like it should turn out way nicer then when you 1st got it. dont use 22s in the rear however, these bikes like smaller tires.

[rg97]

Also ambient temperature wherever you are shooting the paint will determine the amount of orange peel you are getting. Colder it is the worse it is.

Thats why I'm waiting until spring until I start painting everything on mine. My garage isnt 24/7 heated but with the furnace and the turbo heater it will get around 60. And I have to blast outside so spring is nice for that as well. Black diamond, great stuff! I have been using HPA 80 lately and it is more expensive but the results are fantastic. It's main use if for sand in a waterjet so it is very fine but still cuts like a hot knife through butter

[DohcBikes]

looks like it should turn out way nicer then when you 1st got it. dont use 22s in the rear however, these bikes like smaller tires.

+1 here----the difference in handling between 22s and 20s is pretty drastic on the 200x. I'm actually going to run 18s and taller gearing on the X I'm building now.

[oldskool83]

I went 18's again, just alot funny on a 3wheeler with 18's

[lokisbuddy]

I already have my tires and aluminum rims ordered 20x11x9 should be here next week. buttoning the motor up right now put the xr cam in and wiseco .20 over piston new bottom end bearings. will post pics later when im done.

[lokisbuddy]

185802185803185804185805185806 got motor all ready to go just need 110 main jet. experimented with paint scheme on motor got front end back together painted metal around headlight. got my new shrouds, fender and grab bar.
Edit: waiting on swingarm bearings and bolt and tires and my seat cover.

[lokisbuddy]

The motor paint is spray can but if it looks nice im gonna powder coat.
Edit: frame In above pic is covered in saw dust from the table saw.

[rg97]

You ordered the wrong front fender! That one is for an 86-87 X and will not bolt up unless you're running that front end.
If you want that skinny fender look, the 85-86 250r fender bolts right up.

[lokisbuddy]

There are no holes drilled so I'm pretty sure it will bolt to whatever i want ;)

[rg97]

Well if/when you run into problems...

[oldskool83]

86-87 fender will bolt up, holes are the same locations.

[rg97]

This is an 83-85 Fender
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Definitely not the same bolt pattern, and I'm not sure if you can drill holes in the right locations because of the shape of the fender

[DohcBikes]

A Honda 86-87 fender will not bolt up, just like rg97 says, and shows;)

However the Maier 86-87 fender does not come predrilled, just like lokisbuddy says:)

It has been done.

[rg97]

But really instead of doing guesswork for drilling that may not be easily compatible, you're better off returning the one you have (unless you cant return it then ignore this) getting a 85-86 R fender. They look pretty much the same. just my honest opinion.
In white this is what they look like.
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[DohcBikes]

The R fender DOES look really nice on them. However, it looks like Loki has a good handle on the technical work....nothing wrong with being different! I'm looking forward to seeing it work!!

[rg97]

Yeah loki has some nice mechanical skill. I've got faith in him to do whats right lol. At this rate the trike will be done in a week or so! :lol:

[lokisbuddy]

got fender on with no guesswork lol I just made a template drank a 6 pack and got s$%^ done:) replaed brake pads in front lol being it only has front brakes they must have been abused new brake pads needed some mods to caliper and shims on caliper mount but all done waiting on my tank from powder coat and when I get my swinger bearings and wheels/tires its go time. bench broke motor in this thing runs like a scalded dog!! 185907185908185909185910185911185912

[lokisbuddy]

I thought about the r fender but I like the x fender better.

[DohcBikes]

Got something not too many people have there, and you made it look GREAT!! Good quick work man this is a fun thread to follow.

[slashfan7964]

Looks awesome! Little thing with the motor, it's all black except for a few fins up on the head.

You've got the 86-87 fender one there now, please tell me you are going to retro fit an 86-87 rear on it. I'm not much of a fan of mismatched fenders but it's not my trike to gripe about. I have faith you'll make it look good.

[lokisbuddy]

All the fins are bare allum. as for matching rear.. prepare to be dissapointed bevcause when i have the coin to spare I'm putting a modded set of rears from a 525 outlaw on it with outlaw seat. was looking at my buddies today and i know how I'm gonna do it. sadly he wouldn't let me "show him" on his set.

[slashfan7964]

That will be rather interesting....

[lokisbuddy]

I ordered bars bar pad and grips today. going downstate tue to pick up 2 more bike i got cheap. i now have 3 cr 250s and 2 kx 80s. once i re do the new kx and sell i will be buying my 525 stuff for the x or "marlyn" as i call her.

[lokisbuddy]

Oh i see what u mean about head. not done with it. need new polishing bits for my die grinder.

[84trimoto125]

nice build looks really good

[lokisbuddy]

Waiting on parts build is paused till then prolly Monday. btw if anyone knows where the crankcase vent tube goes let me know please. I have it hooked up to motor and the one tube that hangs down. I was thinking of installing a nipple on the air box to mount it to.

[lokisbuddy]

Just got my seat cover put on. took me forever and I have a dozen Guinness extra stout in me so not sure if its straight lol. What 186355do you think?

Edit: Don't mind the kids toys and junk in the background. I had to do it in the kids play room for peace and quiet..(go figure)

[lokisbuddy]

got a little more done got my seat cover on, new bars, bar pad, grips, and got my 400ex hubs and brand new rims and tires. heres some pics. (the pic of the bike with the tank is the tank off my other x im building the tank for this one isn't back from pc yet.) I also cut the rear plastics due to them being shredded so I saved as much as possible. enjoy the pics so enjoy and feedback is appreciated :) still waiting on swingarm bolt from machine shop. also got a new helmet. and did the compression test with the new top end. is that a lil low for a new top on a 200x? 187175187176187177187178187179187180187181187182

[DohcBikes]

Lookin good!!

Compression looks fine. It will go up some as the rings break in.

Just be sure to have the throttle wide open and the choke off or open to achieve the max reading.

You said you used a .020 Wiseco piston that was ran in an xr200 for six years, its not a new top end:D

[lokisbuddy]

Lookin good!!

Compression looks fine. It will go up some as the rings break in.

Just be sure to have the throttle wide open and the choke off or open to achieve the max reading.

You said you used a .020 Wiseco piston that was ran in an xr200 for six years, its not a new top end:D

by fresh top I meant fresh rings and hone :) and didn't have throttle cracked at all lol yeah prolly needs a couple hours on her to seat rings.
Edit:misspelled "Fresh"

[lokisbuddy]

ok guys finally got my swingarm bearings in (thanks Paul Waslin from AllBalls Racing for lookin out) just need my swinger bolt (should be here tomorrow) my tank from pc, a 110 main jet and lug nuts for my 300ex hubs then shes done till I get the 2stroke in her. I love her stance now. shes wider than my grizzly's and almost as wide as one of my CR250s lol what do you think so far?1873551873561873571873581873591873601873611873 62187363187364187365187366

[lokisbuddy]

The tires are 20x11x9 Sedona bazooka rims are douglas .190's got the tires and wheels for 260.00 shipped on ebay brand new

[lokisbuddy]

Not sure what my old hubs are from but they appear to be Yamaha hubs 4/115187367

[DohcBikes]

Looks good man!! Don't be surprised if the 110 is too lean.

Not sure of your elevation but the pipe alone will likely be happier with a 112 minimum, and you have other mods too right?

I love the front fender. I'm gonna get one:beer

[lokisbuddy]

wiseco .20 xr200 cam air box lid drilled valves from dennis kirk the plug was dark brown when I pulled it

[DohcBikes]

I think the old hubs might be 110 mm Honda, like 200s or something. Not positive. Well, I'm pretty positive lol

[lokisbuddy]

the old hubs are 4/115 they fit my banshee rims
Edit: I think I willgo with 112 main. should I stay stock on pilot?

[DohcBikes]

Really? Maybe I have the mm wrong but they look exactly like the 85 200s hubs I have here.

I'd recommend just check the plug on the pilot. If you end up 3 turns out on the fuel screw then go up a size on the pilot.

Forgive me but I hate writing out jetting procedures so maybe someone wants to go through all that.

My best advice is always to change ONE THING AT A TIME, and record your results on paper. If it works do it more. If it don't, do it less.

[lokisbuddy]

yeah I know how to jet an engine just figured if you knew the best setting off hand I wouldn't have to experiment. im at a 120 main right now and its a bit rich so im going down to a 112

[lokisbuddy]

they could be 200s hubs I will dig my 200s out of the barn later and check but they do fit the paddle tire rims I use on my banshee I know that much.
Edit: thanks for all the help you have offered thus far :) Been a minute since ive messed with an x last one I had was a stroker my uncle built. this one will ultimately have a vlaster bottom end with vitos 240 kit, 3mm stroker, fat ba stard pipe and silencer, boyesen rad valve, and 30mm carb cant wait till that day. I just need to find a blaster bottom end.

[lokisbuddy]

Tank should be done tomorrow now only waiting on jets and carb rebuild kit from dennis kirk I also got a thor sentinal pro chest protector for under 50 bucks in their closeout section should be here today. I am getting antsy been a few days since ive done anything to her and i feel like im neglecting her lol. should i go get a rag wipe her down then sit on her making engine noises? lol
Edit: the old hubs do look like my 200s hubs but the bolt pattern is different.

[DohcBikes]

You already did the fake engine noise thing, didn't you. I did too lol...

[lokisbuddy]

sure did except i used two stroke noises :)

[lokisbuddy]

Ok getting lug nuts tomorrow to ride her but for now shes done :) 187875187876187877187878187879
Edit: slapped a new throttle cable on her for the hell of it.

[DohcBikes]

Aww bro that looks great!! Some won't like that rear fender but I dig it for sure!!

Did you by chance bend the living hell out of your seat pan to get it to lay flat against the tank...:D

[lokisbuddy]

Yeah took a heat gun to the pan and flattened it right out the put the foam and cover on. got sick of that big ass gap. not sure what the gap was even from. and the fenders will ultimately be 525 outlaw rears or maybe raptor but these will suffice for now. thanks for all the positive feedback.

[DohcBikes]

The gap is something that happens over time due to warpage from exposure and the tension from the seat cover pulling on it. Unless they are basically mint condition they all seem to do that.

[slashfan7964]

Yup it's happened to mine as well.

[YTZ drew]

this one will ultimately have a vlaster bottom end with vitos 240 kit, 3mm stroker, fat ba stard pipe and silencer, boyesen rad valve, and 30mm carb cant wait till that day. I just need to find a blaster bottom end.
I don't know why I never thought about that swap before, that's a GREAT idea! I had a built blaster that I sold about a year ago, l=absolutely loved the engine but seriously hated the handling of that machine. Keep up the great work!

[lokisbuddy]

I don't know why I never thought about that swap before, that's a GREAT idea! I had a built blaster that I sold about a year ago, l=absolutely loved the engine but seriously hated the handling of that machine. Keep up the great work!

Yeah I had a 240 stroked blaster back in the day then traded it in on a banshee, the motor was sweet tits but the quad was meh... I think a 250 stroked blaster in a 200x will be greased lightning. thanks for the compliment on the 200x :) I went 2100 over budget on the build (2200 over if captain sells me his rear brake setup aas I have none right now) but you know how it goes. tell the old lady I stayed in budget then when she eventually sees the bank statements and receipts "why you bringing up old stuff?" lol

[lokisbuddy]

Got my tank stickers just now ill post pics in the morn