My most recent purchases: Update red devil is dead!

[jakep53]

Well last weekend I traveled across an OCEAN to get my 1986 200x it runs great just needs new plastics,a couple of frame repairs and some rear axle bearings and it should be good to go! there are also some pics of my 85 x which I got for my b'day I am just waiting on a cdi as I still have no spark!!
and yesterday I purchased my FIRST ever 2-stroke a 82 250r in great condition I am going to pick it up Sunday so I will post some pics but for now here is my 2 x's
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[El Camexican]

All my trikes have crossed an ocean;)

[atc007]

Happy for you Jake! Sort of lol,,,,hate to be the bearer of bad news here. But you def better ad forks,and most Likely a huge list of other parts to that 200X list. But in the end you will love that little sucker! Congrats!

[ONEBAD350X]

nice good luck with them. it has 86 350X wheels on it. I always liked those plus kinda rare imo.

[jakep53]

Happy for you Jake! Sort of lol,,,,hate to be the bearer of bad news here. But you def better ad forks,and most Likely a huge list of other parts to that 200X list. But in the end you will love that little sucker! Congrats!

Yeah after looking at it closer I am going to strip it and rebuild it from the ground up because I discovered more frame problems so it's all going to get rebuilt!!

[jakep53]

nice good luck with them. it has 86 350X wheels on it. I always liked those plus kinda rare imo.

How can you tell??

[dirtwheels]

You can tell that they are 86 350x wheels because they have the cast centers with the slots in them. They were a one year only wheel. The only other bike that had these wheels was the Canadian version of the 86 200x. These wheels were probably expensive to manufacture. They are very nice looking. I have them on all my ATC's.

[dirtwheels]

btw... the Canadian versions have tabs welded onto the stock rear grab bar for reflectors which were required. They also had front reflectors mounted to the forks.

[6speedthumper]

Cool!! Where they from exactly? I JUST shipped out the 87 200x frame I had yesterday.

[jakep53]

You can tell that they are 86 350x wheels because they have the cast centers with the slots in them. They were a one year only wheel. The only other bike that had these wheels was the Canadian version of the 86 200x. These wheels were probably expensive to manufacture. They are very nice looking. I have them on all my ATC's.

ah ok well the aussie version is the same as the canadian model so that explains it they are OEM wheels for the OZ model I also have mounts for reflectors on every single 3 wheeler I own including these 2

[jakep53]

Cool!! Where they from exactly? I JUST shipped out the 87 200x frame I had yesterday.

They are from Australia.......I live in Victoria and I went to Tasmania see the pic. I live on the mainland (red marker)
it would probably cost me an arm an a leg to ship it here!!

[6speedthumper]

They are from Australia.......I live in Victoria and I went to Tasmania see the pic. I live on the mainland (red marker)
it would probably cost me an arm an a leg to ship it here!!


Neat. Didn't realize 3 wheelers would float that far! LOL. Yeah, it wasn't cheap to ship it within the US either!

[jakep53]

well today I went out and picked up my 82r!!! I got there and the guy had 3 mint big wheels a bw 350 a bw 200 and a fat cat all mint!!!
when I got it back home unloaded off the ute and boy does she rip I just about trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro my pants!! the acceleration is insane it hits the powerband and just walks on its hind since I weigh next to nothing like 110 pounds or somthin its like there is no one piloting the beast and if im not careful if I stab the throttle at takes off an I just stay there lol!! it also has a dg pipe what advantage does this have??
so I paid $2100 and for $400 extra I got a spare fully rebuilt engine 4 rims with tyres sand paddles spare axle swinger shock OEM pipe seat headlight wiring harness muffler and some other bits and pieces!!
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also is there such thing as a +1 axle because my axle is 1 inch longer lol and how do I identify what brand it is??
any way here are some pics

[jakep53]

also could someone please clarify the shift pattern is it 1 down then all up??

[slashfan7964]

Somethings different about that muffler on the 85 X...the baffle looks weird.

Otherwise it's roughly the same shape my dads is in.


Congrats on the purchase of all 3 machines though man.


also could someone please clarify the shift pattern is it 1 down then all up??


Yes. Neutral is in between 1 and 2.

[jakep53]

Somethings different about that muffler on the 85 X...the baffle looks weird.



Thats the stock muffler so maybe it's just the angle of the pic or somthin

[slashfan7964]

The 85 sitting in my shed looks like this and it's a bone stock as you're going to find. Looks like the one that's on your R. The one on the 85 looks like part of it's off a different bike or something...

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[ivan-083]

Now that is detication Jake travelling to Tasmania to purchase trikes. I wish Perth had more trikes available. They look good and looks like you have quite a bit of a collection. Ps I have won a bid on a brand new NOS 200es fenders on ebay for 350$. I was the only bidder, but they guy said he wont be able to ship it. So i said just ship them and dont worry how much postage will be hahaahah. Once this is done my trike will be new and finished.

[6speedthumper]

Oh god... please... stop... showing... me... what... I... can't... have............ Going... to... die... of... jealousy!

[jakep53]

Now that is detication Jake travelling to Tasmania to purchase trikes. I wish Perth had more trikes available. They look good and looks like you have quite a bit of a collection. Ps I have won a bid on a brand new NOS 200es fenders on ebay for 350$. I was the only bidder, but they guy said he wont be able to ship it. So i said just ship them and dont worry how much postage will be hahaahah. Once this is done my trike will be new and finished.

Go buy that black and red tri-z on gumtree it looks really nice and its on perth!!
congrats on the fender at least you found one for a great price its just shippings thats a killer I wanted to buy 6 magazines and it was $60 bucks postage!!!

[jakep53]

Oh god... please... stop... showing... me... what... I... can't... have............ Going... to... die... of... jealousy!

If i can find this stuff over here you should be able to find the stuff for half the price I got it for lol

[ivan-083]

Thanks Jake, lets hope he can send the fenders, he said he is waiting for boxes. Where is this tri z? Ill have a look on gumtree now. Have you got any 200es parts? Chasing a 200es front axle collar.

[ivan-083]

6 speed thumpster, I have been looking for a set for about 12 months now. 2 sets of new NOS 200e es m fenders did come up. One went for 650$ which i was the higghest bidder until i fell asleep and didnt set my alarm for 4am (just before auction finished). So the guy won the bid and put the same fenders on ebay the following weel for 1200$ and after 30 days he took them off. So i emailed him and he said he sold them. Very hard to find, I just use my ebay app on my iphone and save 200es fenders and check everyday. I almost had a heart attack when they came up, wanted to bid straight away, but i waited 7 days and the last 10 seconds and put a bid off 1000$. I have restored a 200es and stripped everything down and his will be the only thing i need to finish it. Well worth the wait.

[DohcBikes]

Yeah after looking at it closer I am going to strip it and rebuild it from the ground up because I discovered more frame problems so it's all going to get rebuilt!!
Jake, the 2nd gen 200x frames and swingarms are weak. Yours is twisted pretty bad.

Forks can almost always be repaired. Yours don't look too bad. The forks on the Wicked X were bent badly three ways each before I straightened them. They work perfectly with no leaks.

Looks like the 86 I bought, which I sold as fast as I could find a buyer to pay what I had into it after straightening it out.

Looks like you have a couple other toys scattered in there!

[jakep53]

Thanks Jake, lets hope he can send the fenders, he said he is waiting for boxes. Where is this tri z? Ill have a look on gumtree now. Have you got any 200es parts? Chasing a 200es front axle collar.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/perth-region/motorcycles/yamaha-tri-z-250/1054061791 im not sure but there was just a post here from a guy in WA who said he just bought a red and black z so he may have bought it!! but I asked him so I will see!!

[jakep53]

Jake, the 2nd gen 200x frames and swingarms are weak. Yours is twisted pretty bad.

Forks can almost always be repaired. Yours don't look too bad. The forks on the Wicked X were bent badly three ways each before I straightened them. They work perfectly with no leaks.

Looks like the 86 I bought, which I sold as fast as I could find a buyer to pay what I had into it after straightening it out.

Looks like you have a couple other toys scattered in there!

Yeah ill get it all straightened out!! this is my plan inverted forks up front custom frame (will be very very light still working on a design) new custom swing arm (also will be very very light) bigger axle new plastics haven't decided what to do with the motor yet!! but this thing is going to be VERY VERY light!!!

and Im going to be cleaning up soon so Ill get a pic of all my toys!!

[jakep53]

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/perth-region/motorcycles/yamaha-tri-z-250/1054061791 im not sure but there was just a post here from a guy in WA who said he just bought a red and black z so he may have bought it!! but I asked him so I will see!!

http://www.ozatv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=143633#143633 yep this guy bought it I think it went to a good home!!

[ivan-083]

Ah ok I didn't even know that Australia had this website, I'll have a decent look at it tomorrow at work! Looks very clean though

[czac]

wow... I just like looking at the pics and trying to tell what everything else is that you got in that garage! Man... you do have a lot of cool toys there!

[6speedthumper]

If i can find this stuff over here you should be able to find the stuff for half the price I got it for lol

Lol. Right now, I'm concentrating on my car. So, anything not for it, is out of my price range. At the moment anyway.

[jakep53]

Ah ok I didn't even know that Australia had this website, I'll have a decent look at it tomorrow at work! Looks very clean though

Yeah it is pretty neat but it doesn't see much activity any more!! but there are some really good older threads I read every thread in the 3 wheeler category all 22 pages it is a very good read!!

[jakep53]

wow... I just like looking at the pics and trying to tell what everything else is that you got in that garage! Man... you do have a lot of cool toys there!

when I get everything pulled out I will take a big pic of everything

[jakep53]

Lol. Right now, I'm concentrating on my car. So, anything not for it, is out of my price range. At the moment anyway.

ah the car bug lol lucky I haven't got that yet!!

[6speedthumper]

ah the car bug lol lucky I haven't got that yet!!

Just you wait until you have an antique, muscle, or pony car in your garage ;)

[ivan-083]

Jake 200es fenders boxed up and ready to be delivered. $400 for shipping! But i dont care finally got a set.

[jakep53]

Just you wait until you have an antique, muscle, or pony car in your garage ;)

Yeah I had to stop looking a car magazines for a while because I knew if I got into a car now I would be living on the street lol its hard enogh finding the cash to do this!!!

[jakep53]

Jake 200es fenders boxed up and ready to be delivered. $400 for shipping! But i dont care finally got a set.

$400 bucks thats pretty good since you got the fenders so cheap you still got a really good bargain

[ivan-083]

Yeah I would have paid a bit more, mike from vintage motors said he put in wooden box so it wouldn't get damaged! I'll send pics when they arrive! Ps that tri z is still available, I rang the guy today! Good news but after buying these fenders and nos mudflaps, also building a new 2 story house ahhhhhh trike or house ha ha!

[jakep53]

Yeah I would have paid a bit more, mike from vintage motors said he put in wooden box so it wouldn't get damaged! I'll send pics when they arrive! Ps that tri z is still available, I rang the guy today! Good news but after buying these fenders and nos mudflaps, also building a new 2 story house ahhhhhh trike or house ha ha!

thats good you got it all taken care of!!! mm 2 story house or trike..................I think trike and you could sleep under it lol

[ivan-083]

Yeah I would prefer the trike! Hahah!

[jakep53]

Ok today wasn't very successful I blew up 2 2strokes in 2 hours!! the first was a suzuki dirt bike I was about to sell that didn't worry me to much since it was really only a beater but then I pulled out red devil and went for a ride all was going good and then after about 15 mins I heard a clunk clunk and as I went to shut her off she locked up so I just gently tried to kick it over and it moved one click and then it just locked up solid no movement at all!! so I had to get dad to tow me back at first dad thought the gearbox may have locked up but the oil was clean and everything then we thought it may have snapped the rod but the case is all intact and it didn't make any really loud noises!! its not running lean I am running 40:1 looking through the spark plug hole the piston looks good from what I could see so im going to put my freshly rebuilt engine in tomorrow that I got with the bike and I will pull this one apart and check it out I think it pinched a ring!! any opinions??

[jakep53]

Ok I opened the motor up and I think it was my fault since it looks like the piston has grabbed so I'm putting my spare motor in now so a couple of questions what oil to run what ratio and how do I run it in since I've never run in a 2 stroke before!!

[slashfan7964]

Normal 2 stroke oil will work. Not sure on the ratio, I'm not extremely experienced with 2 strokes.

[jakep53]

Ok im quite confused now I have been doing a lot of reading and everyone says run 32:1 or 40:1 now I am confused what caused my motor to seize up since I was running 40:1 clean air filter slightly rich mixture and when I opened it up there is 4 places where the piston has grabbed in each corner of the cylinder!! WHy did this happen cause I do not want this to happen to my fresh motor!! even this one has just been rebuilt so I was a little pissed!!

[danbur55]

There's your problem "corners in a cylinder" sorry but I couldnt resist myself on that one. It's a mechanical type thing but do you let it get to operating temp before you take off wide open?? 2 strokes don't seem to like that

[tony8008]

not an expert by any means, but if its bored and has the wrong size piston it would have a lot of extra movement...

[jakep53]

There's your problem "corners in a cylinder" sorry but I couldnt resist myself on that one. It's a mechanical type thing but do you let it get to operating temp before you take off wide open?? 2 strokes don't seem to like that

lol Ive got one of them new square cylinders lol!! yes I normally do a couple of laps and then I let er rip!!

[cwolfe]

hey just my 2 cents but any 2 stroke oil will not work use only ones that are designed for atvs. i use old school klotz for the old race smell my buddy uses castrol but everybody has a different oil. dont use the kind you can get from a box store made for lawn equipment you will burn the motor up. i run 32:1 on my liquid r just to be safe because it is alot easier to replace a fouled plug than a burnt piston. liquid r's suggest running 25:1 from the factory to help prevent that from happening.

[6speedthumper]

If I'm not mistaken, the air cooled r's are recommended 20:1 by Honda. Most, but not all, 2 strokes will be fine on either 32:1 or 40:1. Me personally, I'd go with 32:1, or whatever the manufacturer recommends.

[phantombiker]

first of all, nice bikes. and second, if its a stock motor and u can get it, use gold spectrum 2 stroke oil. 1 bottle per 5 galons of petrol. my bike runs great on it. sputters a bit but i think my jets are getting clogged. it changed my mix ratio but the guy told me that the advance technology of the oils is much better these days and would be fine. my bike smokes like a 2 stroke and sounds like one while running. im happy with it.

[R.J.M.]

It almost sounds like it wasnt warmed up yet and u cold seized the motor.

[jakep53]

thanks for all the advice guys its muchly appreciated I will get some better oil run 32:1 and see how she goes!!

[jakep53]

http://search.supercheapauto.com.au/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=2%20stroke%20motorcycle%20oil&pw=2%20stroke%20motorcyle%20oil&rt=spelling&isort=score&view=grid here is the oils I have access to you can search any brand in here so if you find one that you use please let me know!! thanks