250R Brake Hose Clamp

[Flyingw]

Ok 3wheeler guys. I have a dilemma. I put a 5/16 front brake hose on Whiskey Bent but the stock clamp that bolts to the left lower fork tube is way too big. I could wrap something around the hose but it looks Jerry rigged. I bought a Zeta clamp off Ebay but the bolt hole spread is too narrow. I am looking for a clamp that will firmly clamp a 5/16 hose that has about a 17mm center to center hole spread. If I had access to an end mill, I'd make one but I don't. This what I'm looking for. Anything come to mind?


Any of you guys have an XL/XR enduro? actually any make or model. I am looking for a model and year that has a hole center to center for the front brake clamp tab of 17mm.

[onformula1]

Sorry I don't have good news-

All sizes Approx.

1985 and up Honda CR, XL, XR 19.82mm

1990 and up (Probally 1986 & up) Kawasaki KX, KLR, KLX 13.5mm

1989 and up Yamaha YZ, WR 20mm

Thats all I had on hand in my shop to measure.

Can't you just slot one or both holes on you fork leg?

[Flyingw]

I could but I really don't want to modify the fork holes. Thanks very much for looking.

[onformula1]

No problem, glad a try to help..LOL

How about a black delrin tube slit down one side and use the stock clamp?

[Flyingw]

I've considered that but it looks jerry rigged.

[Flyingw]

I'm picky!!

[onformula1]

I get it, I am the same way. I think my OCD is a good thing!...LOL

[poohbee1]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/161368-250r-brake-stay?p=1254142#post1254142 I used an 85 cr 250 one , no mods same spread same bolts

[Flyingw]

Apparently I need to quit reading metric rulers when I'm tired. The bolt hole spread is 20mm. Thanks Poobee. It looks like the 85-98 CR250R clamps are the same bolt pattern.

[Flyingw]

Ok, bought one. Thanks all for the help. I'll keep you posted on how it fits.

[onformula1]

Ok, bought one. Thanks all for the help. I'll keep you posted on how it fits.

Already bought it?, I have 3 I would have sent you one.

[Flyingw]

I hold that as a reserve in case the one I bought doesn't work but I wanted the red one for color. Thanks Brother. I'll let you know how it works out.

[onformula1]

Sweet!, I am here to help.

Note- The stock clamps work & I have never snapped one, but don't look very cool & and your build is sick!

[Flyingw]

Its on hold for right now. I have to swap out the swinger because the stretch done to this one back in 09 was the wrong length in that the chain falls on a half link and I don't get full stretch out of my chains so to correct the problem once and for all is to have another swinger stretched to the right length which is going to be 4" instead of 4 3/4" as it is now. If somebody is running 13/42 it's not a problem but for stock gearing 13/39, I have to roll my carrier about 100degs before the chain tightens up. The swinger is on the way to my buddy for stretching so I hope to have it back by the end of next week.

[onformula1]

Man, I remember those old school half link-master link set ups they worked but were weak.

Sounds cool throttle on!

[kazander]

I have a whole box of half links.


Its on hold for right now. I have to swap out the swinger because the stretch done to this one back in 09 was the wrong length in that the chain falls on a half link and I don't get full stretch out of my chains so to correct the problem once and for all is to have another swinger stretched to the right length which is going to be 4" instead of 4 3/4" as it is now. If somebody is running 13/42 it's not a problem but for stock gearing 13/39, I have to roll my carrier about 100degs before the chain tightens up. The swinger is on the way to my buddy for stretching so I hope to have it back by the end of next week.

[Flyingw]

I have one too but I refuse to use it. Last thing I need is broken cases.

[onformula1]

I have one too but I refuse to use it. Last thing I need is broken cases.

I have seen a few snap and boy it was ugly! The case savers worked but they were laying on the sand.

[Flyingw]

My shop teacher in high school was an MX racer and he told me to NEVER use a half link. I took that to heart.

[onformula1]

My shop teacher in high school was an MX racer and he told me to NEVER use a half link. I took that to heart.

Smart Guy.

Mine said "What the heck is a half link?"

[Dirtcrasher]

I broke 2 myself....

Can't I put that clamp in my Kurt vice on my Bridgeport and just bore the right size hole to hold the cable well??

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_0399.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/Dirtcrasher/media/101_0399.jpg.html)

[onformula1]

I broke 2 myself....

Can't I put that clamp in my Kurt vice on my Bridgeport and just bore the right size hole to hold the cable well??

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_0399.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/Dirtcrasher/media/101_0399.jpg.html)

You have a Kurt vise and a Bridgeport, you can make anything!

Start from new, make it trick.

[Flyingw]

I got my Zeta brake line clamp and it fits perfect. The Part number I ordered was the ZE92-0106 for the 85-98 CR125, 250, and 500R.

[onformula1]

Looks great, now you need the trick Honda CR bolts to match.

[Flyingw]

Bolts? What bolts?

[onformula1]

Like these-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-HONDA-CR250R-CR250-CR-250-R-250R-FRONT-BRAKE-HOSE-LINE-CLAMP/280853522999?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3D914c6eb02ebd4bc08f2 a5e34bf350d18%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D30% 26sd%3D221318010861


8mm smooth taper heads

[onformula1]

But these are very cool!-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TITANIUM-FACTORY-LOW-PROFILE-FRONT-BRAKE-LINE-CLAMP-BOLTS-CRF250R-CRF450R-CRF/320895530367?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3D559c2ab1f58c43d2a05 6957885db2850%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D30%2 6sd%3D221318010861

[Flyingw]

The stock bolts are the 8mm head 6x16. I have those. Those special ones too spendy.

[Flyingw]

Ya the 8mm heads fit better.

[onformula1]

Very cool!, Now that is trick!

I was going to send you a couple N/C I love stock Honda CR bolts, I have used them on KTM's, ATC's, KX's, Quad Racer's you name it, strong, many sizes, look great and I love 8mm T-Handles!

[onformula1]

Want to have some fun?

Sand the brake caliper fins down to bare aluminum for the trick- "Factory works Look"

[Flyingw]

Don't put thoughts like that in my head...... AWWW CRAP!!!!!!

[onformula1]

I sand every fin, brake calipers front and rear if possible & air cooled cylinders and heads.

Trick "Works look" better cooling, more cooling surface area.

And its lighter for better wheelies... :lol:

[Flyingw]

That should be good for another 5MPH. Thank God the rear doesn't have any fins.

[onformula1]

NICE!, Sorry I couldn't see that in the pic.

What no stainless steel safety wire on that banjo bolt? :lol:

[Flyingw]

After I fill and bleed the brakes will I safety wire that bolt. I have to be in a mood to bleed brakes.

[Flyingw]

I have to drill a small hole in both caliper bodies to anchor the safety wire but I have good spots on both.

[onformula1]

FYI, Honda CR 12mm dimple bolts work great to drill for safety wire.

Have you used a VAC-U-PUMP to bleed brakes? They work great, only thing I will use.

Don't forget the synthetic brake fluid.

I like-

https://www.motul.com/system/product_descriptions/technical_data_sheets/169/original/RBF_660_Factory_Line_%28GB%29.pdf?1340124817

It works great, does not fade (617 degrees F) or boil, bleeds clean, more braking power and if your system is clean it will stay clean forever.

[Flyingw]

I have a drilling jig for drilling safety wire holes. I have to be careful because my OCD may kick in and I might be inclined to drill the crap out of a bunch of bolts. I have a vacuum pump but bleeding at the banjos seems to work well once I get all the hidden air bubbles out. I just hate the brake fluid mess that usually comes with bleeding brakes and I do have synthetic fluid standing by.

[Flyingw]

Right now I'm on hold for a replacement swingarm. My buddy has the replacement so I'm just waiting for it to come back. The one issue I'm debating on now is the aftermarket radiators are taller than the stock ones and when the tank is in place, I cant get the cap off without having to unbolt the tank at the front. That's a pain. I'm throwing around the idea of using quick release ball pins if I can find the right ones.

[onformula1]

How about making a simple system like this, that lowers the center of gravity (Helpful to a 250R)

http://www.dubachracing.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_32&products_id=1808

I first saw them in about 1986 on Bob Hurricane Hannah's factory works RM250.

[onformula1]

Possible alternative-

I would do both-

If you use Water Wetter & distilled water (No coolant) you don't have to check the level much, if ever.

Runs cooler, better heat dissipation, longer water pump seal life.

[Flyingw]

I have been running ICE since I built it in 09 but the one consistent problem I've had with Whiskey Bent is overheating on high rev slow moving trails. I fattened up the jetting a bit and coupled with the over-sized radiators hope this problem is a thing of the past. Running open country with plenty of air moving through the radiators the temp is stable. Its the slow trails on a hot day that always get it.

[Flyingw]

I may give water wetter a try. Concentrate or premixed?

[onformula1]

I may give water wetter a try. Concentrate or premixed?

Run it the way the directions call for. Distilled water only.

If you have a way to check the temp. (Looks like you do)

Fattening up the jetting one clip on the needle and/or one on the main jet may help.

Up the octane of your fuel.

And/or try to slow down your coolant flow, as a test- wrap a coolant hose that goes to the water pump with a rubber scrap hose piece and put a zip tie around it and keep tightening it a bit and see if the temp. goes down, on many trikes the slower coolant flow dissipates more heat through the radiators.

Anyways check for air leaks.

I have run 250r's in arizona, soaking wet (Me) for hours in the Arizona or Glamis summers for hours with no problems.

[onformula1]

PS- this thread is about hose clamps correct?...LOL
:lol:

[Flyingw]

Copy all. I'll post how it does once I get it back running again.

[Flyingw]

Ya but its my thread!!!! All good stuff

[250rRoostmaster]

That should be good for another 5MPH. Thank God the rear doesn't have any fins.

Dammit.. I know what I'm doing this weekend haha

[Red Rider]

Looks much better now with the OEM Honda bolts.

[onformula1]

Looks much better now with the OEM Honda bolts.

Truly the best bolts ever made.
Everyone else is way behind.

[Flyingw]

Whiskey Bent is pretty much done minus the impending swingarm swap out but for now I can press on with the liquids and engine start. I resolved the radiator cap problem by trimming a little off the shroud. It's tight but I can get the cap off when I need to. I'm pretty happy so far with the results. Thanks to everybody that contributed in making Whiskey Bent and Hell Bound what it is.

[onformula1]

Awesome!, looks great!

Except that weird thumb thingy box, place saver by the right side grip?

It looks out of place. :lol:

[Flyingw]

I've never been a twisty guy on 3wheelers. They put thumb throttles for a reason.

[onformula1]

Sorry, never got it, never will.

My father put a Magura twist on my 1977 Honda ATC70 in 1977 and I never looked back.

He said bandaids cost too much and anything that requires a thumb to operate has a bell hooked to it.

True story & you know that's funny, I guess I took it to heart till this day. Thumb Throttle on!