86 tecate

[6spdls1z28]

Guy has an 86 tecate in Phoenix right now for sale for 1200 missing shrouds and rest of the plastics are really faded. Says engine is rebuilt back in 07 but rarely starts cuz of what it is. I argued with this guy about 2 months ago he wanted 2000 for it back then and a 86 250r missing rear fenders and seat needs clutch and who knows if its original motor. I tryed to get both for 2000 i need an opinion here i might try againhttp://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/mcy/4993310076.html

[6spdls1z28]

Sorry been drinking and will explain what happened before when we argued. Plus i didn't space the url i posted.

[6spdls1z28]

What do you guys think

[nd4speed]

I think the Tecates are easier to find out west but still somewhat rare. The Tecate parts will be expensive for some of the stuff.

That Tecate have a parking brake?

The Tecate rear hubs look to have a smaller bolt pattern than oem. Pipe looks funny. Maybe it is just the poor pictures?

That is a pretty typical shape to find a low priced T3 in.

I think a bundle is a good idea and now that you have posted a craigs link someone will go buy them before you.

[Ragar]

Thats all after market plastic, looks really rough...
looks like thats had a lot of things rigged and removed.

[dirtwheels]

I talked to this guy also a few weeks ago when he had it for 2000. Then it was 1500. Now it's 1200. Ended up passing on it. Too much missing that would take a while to find. It has an 85 rear end and brake setup on it. He told me the 86 rear axle and bearing carrier got bent when it rolled. He said the Honda 250R was pretty nice but was in a fire which messed up the plastic.

[6spdls1z28]

I keep thinking about it and its definitely missing a lot. Now knowing the rest on the r im out on that one.

[6spdls1z28]

Wait I thought you were talking about the 250r having the rear swap but that's the tecate. Had to 're read that. Yeah im out on both im sure more of the 250r was burned than he says.

[nd4speed]

beat down and set on fire ...ouch. Yeah he is asking more than I would pay. Low price is around $300-800. If it looks bad in the picture , I often find it is 10 times worse in person,

[6spdls1z28]

I want a second gen tecate so bad but this one raises flags. My brothers friend from high school has one that he has had since I was a kid he says he will sell after he rebuilds the engine and rides it one last time. At least I've seen this one run back in the day. He won't give me a price i imagine a lot after.

[nd4speed]

either way it will be expensive to buy a nice one or restore one.

[6spdls1z28]

I might still buy for long term restore. Btw like your gene wilder pic! Gene wilder and Richard Pryor hilarious! !!!

[6spdls1z28]

Well i think i might go get that tecate tomorrow. If i do ill post some better pics and hope everyone can help me get it back in good shape.

[nd4speed]

hopefully he comes down on the price and you dont have to spend that much..........

[6spdls1z28]

Im going to try to get it lower what should I look for up close say on the frame and stuff.

[3 Wheel Drive]

Tell him the shocks feel shot, the calipers are seized, the rear bearings feels like they stick, the plastics are scratched, the airbox is messed up, it's 3o yrs old the compression feels low most likely cause the rings are stuck, & no body wants to work on a 3 wheeled widow maker.

It needs a new piston, gasket kit, bearings, air filter, new cool head because Kawasaki discontinued the oem ones, new tires, brakes, caliper rebuilds, new light bulbs, clutch kit, & seals.

just to get it into proper & safe riding condition will cost you nearly a grand in parts alone.

show up with your best offer & have one or two hundred in your pocket if you see it's not all that bad.

[nd4speed]

My guess is you will sink $1000 into that instantly, and with toys there is a lot of work and little if any return on investment (other than the thrill of riding it).

I paid $375 for a 1984 that was like 95% there and original, but not running because if broken pipe and burnt wire, and dumped a grand into it buying whole other parts KX250 and parts. It sat for years after it was wrecked and wasnt even that nice when I was done. But it worked well and the guy who bought it was happy.

[6spdls1z28]

The only real big concern is the swing arm being an 85 one. Is it a lot different than the 86 one?

My guess is you will sink $1000 into that instantly, and with toys there is a lot of work and little if any return on investment (other than the thrill of riding it).

I paid $375 for a 1984 that was like 95% there and original, but not running because if broken pipe and burnt wire, and dumped a grand into it buying whole other parts KX250 and parts. It sat for years after it was wrecked and wasnt even that nice when I was done. But it worked well and the guy who bought it was happy.

[3 Wheel Drive]

Yes the 85 swing arm uses a different rocker arm, dog bone, if it has the 85 rear axle carrier, then everything is different all 4 hubs, sprockets caliper, wheels & tires. The 85 is also made of steel so it's heavier & nearly 2" shorter in length.

This alone should bring down the price substantially, the 86 swing arm made of aluminum, the axle is thicker, they made less 86 models vs 85 t3's, the 86 swing arms sell for more than the 85.

Check the condition of the silencer & pipe, if it's dented and holes in it... It's just another costly & scarce item to replace.

The plastics are also somewhat expensive, you can buy a complete 250r for much less than the cost to restore & rebuild the tecate.

[6spdls1z28]

Its probably not worth my time then i have to drive like 100 miles just to see the damn thing.

[3 Wheel Drive]

I just looked at it and texted him. He said it's the stock swing arm but using an 84 carrier. It does not look that bad really. But yea you will need some money to fix it up some, unless you like riding it like that.

[6spdls1z28]

Yeah he just told me the same thing im trying to see what the pipe is now.

[6spdls1z28]

Well i bought it. It runs strong i do want to get rid of the head pipe and find one that actually fits right. I think it might be a kx250 pipe ill post pics tomorrow

[3 Wheel Drive]

Did you get him down on the price a bit? Even at his asking price it's not too bad. Did he have any parts to go with it, like the 86 carrier or the shrouds?

If you have the carrier I may have a straight axle & all the hubs you need. There are some inexpensive shrouds on eBay for like $60-70.

[6spdls1z28]

He wouldn't go down in price unfortunately. But he did have the original wheels and hubs so i just need the axle and carrier. I wouldn't mind getting an axle from you. No shrouds either.

Did you get him down on the price a bit? Even at his asking price it's not too bad. Did he have any parts to go with it, like the 86 carrier or the shrouds?

If you have the carrier I may have a straight axle & all the hubs you need. There are some inexpensive shrouds on eBay for like $60-70.

[nd4speed]

Welcome to the club! Post some pics of everything.

I have lots of parts for sale but I dont have a carrier

[3 Wheel Drive]

I'm leaving town until the 10th, I have an extra carrier & tank cover if you want one. When I get back I can send you some pics. Congratulations on the Tecate, at least you got one that's ready to ride!

[6spdls1z28]

Things i need from you guys that I can't find.
Intake boot
chain guide heard a kx250f one works i have a 250f too so ill find out
axle and carrier
shock or source to get parts for it
Headlight shroud
thumb throttle has twist
pipe

[3 Wheel Drive]

Jesweinhart makes new intake boots, chain sliders, tool boxes, flywheel upgrades, coolant bottles & other parts for your 86 Tecate. I have some oem boots but they have surface cracks on them.

[6spdls1z28]

Is that a website im going to order a bunch of stuff for it today. The slider fell off yesterday and the chain is already cutting into the swingarm.

[tecaterob]

I got my sliders, intake boot, shrouds, and coolant resv for him last week. Best quality... I remember him 1000%.

[jeswinehart]

Jacques, I replied to your pm. If you want tank shrouds and/or headlight shroud I will need to pick those 2 items up from Hornetspower (I am sure he is putting 20 hour days in right now ~ farming thing)
His tank shrouds are 110.00 and his headlight shell if I recall correctly is 120.00

john
Nice score by the way !

[nd4speed]

Doesnt look like too bad of a start.
Are those stock 84 wheel hubs? or extended? cant remember what mine looked like.

Here's a thread where u can read about what other parts fit like case savers, intakes/reeds, and so on:
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/94809-Kxt250-Tecate-3-What-Parts-Fit-Swap-Interchange

looks like you need a gas cap too. Well it's a good start anyway. Welcome to the club.

[Marty]

That tacate is a turd! All the hard to find parts are missing, so that leaves you with a huge money pit!! But it is a good bike to part out.

[Ragar]

NICE :welcome:
Welcome. Doesnt look near as bad as the Original Photos you had posted.


Thanks to the Internet and Awesome members here. You should be able to get Her Going!

I bought mine much like yours.
And With work It can come back. ELBOW GREASE!
Also The Shrouds on Ebay are DC, get them from DC direct and save the time and money.
All Balls has all the Bearings you'll Likely Need.

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[tecaterob]

Don't know why someone is calling it a turd, good start in my book..

[nd4speed]

I hope he was joking about the turd part....I made money off this Tecate pictured and if that isn't a $125 turd, I dont know what is:

I passed on one that was almost as bad, and kinda wish I hadnt but he was asking too much and tryng to tell me someone was on their way from another state to buy it. Not sure if it was high pressure sales pitch but I left it for whoever was driving that far for a turd.

The guy has a running driving Tecate and well the one I ride isnt much more than what he has. Mine still runs and rides fine with all the hard to find parts missing.

[nd4speed]

I suggest you research what parts fit and plan your setup before you start throwing money down. Chains, sprockets, bearings, pipe,intake, slides, nuts, bolts, plastics, grips, gas cap, tires, shock rebuild( or new shock -banshee ,raptor, 300ex, lt250r), and so on will add up real fast.

There are angled Uni POD filters to keep the intake off the shock, or u can use an angled KX250/500 boot.

I would ride it with the 84/85 rear end after putting sliders on to make sure the motor is all good to go.

Take the pipe off and try to look up the exhaust port and the cylinder walls, piston walls/crown.

Doesnt matter how pretty it looks broke down miles out on a trail or in the middle of a frozen lake.

[6spdls1z28]

Yes they are 84 hubs and carrier. The only thing keeping me from riding it is the chain slider i don't want to chew up the swinger. I rode it this morning for a few minutes pulled the front in every gear. Im happy about it.

[nd4speed]

I just thought the hubs look extended, if the are they can be sold to get some money for the project. I sell off all the rare stuff to get my money back then just ride the one I have.

I would get a different silencer too. FMF makes universal spark arrested one, I have a couple lying around.

[6spdls1z28]

I can send a pic of the hubs up close if you want

[nd4speed]

they might have a name cast on them somewhere. I cant remember what my 84 hubs looked like. I will peep ebay photos.

They are probably just stock based on photos

[nd4speed]

The spray bombing kinda throws things off, but it looks to have most of the OEM hardware and small parts, which is good.
Nothing like buying a KX250 and finding someone had jammed hardware store standard bolts in metric holes on the frame and elsewhere. Lucky for me it was a parts bike anyway.

Are the bolts broke off in the case saver mount holes?

Well the pipe is interesting, doesnt not look Tecate to me. People often buy those OEM silencers for restorations.

I am going to need some new chain sliders too, I had old one and prototype one that was too soft blown off and wear down on the last 2 rides. Seems like I break something every ride now.

[6spdls1z28]

Here ya go.

[6spdls1z28]

Only one bolt broke of its in the engine mount by the pipe easily fixable.

[nd4speed]

I think they are OEM hubs, and if you did not know a KX500 motor will drop right in the frame with very minor mods like making room for the spark plug and front/upper motor mounts.

[nd4speed]

I took a die grinder and cut off wheel and cut deeper sharper grooves in the footpegs on mine, cause they are always so rounded and slippery.

[6spdls1z28]

I have the oem hubs on the stock wheels different splines

[nd4speed]

supposedly a new gas cap from partzilla is $13
http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-51049-1068.html

[6spdls1z28]

Ha doesn't say discontinued like everything else?

[nd4speed]

Some one on ebay says the Tecate 4 wheeler KXF250 cap fits too, if that is true then there are a ton of caps that fit, but get this, they are more than $13. Actually the new one on mine looks like T4.

Have you looked at ebay sold listing to see the prices you are in for?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_nkw=1986+tecate&rt=nc

People paying $200 for headlights that are used on KLR650

It is $88 on partzilla, my god, due some research people are ebay bidding nuts.
http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-23007-1174.html


1986 KXT250-B1 Tecate HEADLIGHT
1987 KXT250-B2 Tecate HEADLIGHT
1984 KL600-A1 KL600 HEADLIGHT
1985 KL250-D2 KLR250 HEADLIGHT
1985 KL600-B1 KL600 HEADLIGHT
1986 KL250-D3 KLR250 HEADLIGHT
1986 KL600-B2 KL600 HEADLIGHT
1987 KL650-A1 KLR650 HEAD LAMP
1988 KL650-A2 KLR650 HEAD LAMP
1989 KL650-A3 KLR650 HEAD LAMP
1990 KL650-A4 KLR650 HEAD LAMP
1991 KL650-A5 KLR650 HEAD LAMP
1992 KL650-A6 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1993 KL650-A7 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1994 KL650-A8 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1995 KL650-A9 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1996 KL650-A10 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1997 KL650-A11 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1998 KL650-A12 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)
1999 KL650-A13 KLR650 HEADLIGHT(S)

[6spdls1z28]

I'm back and forth some stuff is outrageous on there and some is really cheap.

[6spdls1z28]

I have the headlight and mount just no shroud.

[6spdls1z28]

Well a few parts a week. Got an intake boot coming chain slider and radiator shrouds! Ill have my "TURD" looking good really fast.