The Political Compass test

[ironchop]

anyone here ever done this?

I was surprised by my own results

Click on "take the test" link down a few paragraphs......try the "Iconochasms" link too....very interesting quotes from famous hypocrites

have a go:

http://politicalcompass.org/

[atctim]

Mine was right where I thought it was. I was not surprised by my results at all.

[ironchop]

Where did you place, Tim?

I was Left of Center a couple squares but deep in Libertarian territory. I was surprised by the left of center part.

[83ATC185]

Took it in a big hurry at work i ended up dead center, with an economic 0.0 and a .31 social..

A lot of those issues/definitions have a lot broader spectrum than agree/disagree

Will take again when i have time to really read through it. Definitely a tool for thought

[ironchop]

The one big flaw I can see is in how one interprets the questions before they answer

[atctim]

Where did you place, Tim?

I was Left of Center a couple squares but deep in Libertarian territory. I was surprised by the left of center part.

Far right, but dead center on the up down scale.

[DohcBikes]

Here's mine.

Economic Left/Right: 0.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

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I agree chop, all the questions seem loaded so it's gonna mess with the outcome imo.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Here is mine... And I strongly agree,(:D) that there should have been a "neither agree nor disagree" choice.... I spent more time fussing over questions I would have answered "neither agree nor disagree"...

[El Camexican]

I ended up one square to the right of center on the bottom blue row. I don’t know what that makes me, but if it’s anything like darts, or target practice I guess I was close.:lol:

X 3 on the loaded questions. Some issues are way too complex for a multiple choice answer.

[ironchop]

I especially dislike questions about a free market because 'free market' is something that means different things for different people. For example, I like capitalism but I'm opposed to monopolies and anything called 'too big to fail' and believe we need safeguards, that are enforced for once, yo prevent such things as its the citizen who foots the bill for the profiteering of reckless a-holes.

When they say 'market free of regulation' I'm not bailing out anymore businessmen with my hard work so that is something I consider before answering.

'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a phrase straight out of Marx' communist manifesto....my answer to that is hell no!

I'm wondering how I got calculated Left of center on economy

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[Joseph Farrow]

Your Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: 2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.38

[RIDE-RED 250r]

I especially dislike questions about a free market because 'free market' is something that means different things for different people. For example, I like capitalism but I'm opposed to monopolies and anything called 'too big to fail' and believe we need safeguards, that are enforced for once, yo prevent such things as its the citizen who foots the bill for the profiteering of reckless a-holes.

When they say 'market free of regulation' I'm not bailing out anymore businessmen with my hard work so that is something I consider before answering.

'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a phrase straight out of Marx' communist manifesto....my answer to that is hell no!

I'm wondering how I got calculated Left of center on economy

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I wonder how many people who have taken the quiz even know that is from the communist manifesto..... Or maybe, it could be that they know all about it because they believe in that tripe.. Isn't communism cool and hip with the youngsters these days????

[83ATC185]

I wonder how many people who have taken the quiz even know that is from the communist manifesto..... Or maybe, it could be that they know all about it because they believe in that tripe..

Knowing the background of that statement would surely make a difference in how some people answered I'm sure, although it shouldn't..

I knew that actually, having read it and the commentaries...

On a side note i own a lot of books that i can only hope a stranger to me finds while going through my things when i die...they're in for a treat...

I took the test again with near the same results...


Isn't communism cool and hip with the youngsters these days????

That is a very scary thing that is happening right now. Isn't that the only other way to implement a socialistic system like that other than brute force? Make it the "cool" thing with such an ironic catchphrase its hard to believe, and pass it off as an easier alternative to working soooo hard?

[Scootertrash]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

I wonder how many here who took the test agree with that line of thinking?

[RIDE-RED 250r]

You know, probably the biggest problem with "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is figuring out who gets to decide the abilities and needs of the masses.....

What a twisted philosophy.

[ironchop]

Its impossible to determine what someone's true potential is without possessing drive and determination to excel. Communists are at odds with this because they oversimplify human potential and they incorrectly assume that some folks happily and willfully out-work other folks merely to sustain an unrealistic ideology or perhaps even out of a sense of responsibility to the greater community. The latter being more difficult to maintain because communists (much like Liberalism) believe egalitarisnism is possible by breaking down cliques, families, tribes, and communities into a "multicultural" soup as a method to destroy racism, religious persecution, sexism, and classism.....what these utopian dimwits fail to understand is that altruism is most commonly developed and maintained within these small groups. Taking away the bonds humans have in the hopes that they will be forced to bond with people they neither know nor owe any sort of duty to help. This never works. Add to this that removing the incentive to achieve great things as in monetary awards, prestige, or class membership removes the REASON for anyone to attempt to achieve anything outside of just maintaining Communist mediocrity.

This is why their economies ALWAYS fail, their industrialisation is ALWAYS twenty years behind the Driven World, and the morale of a people runs one rung above Despair due to the fact that some MUST carry the load for others in order for this madness to have any chance of success. Its simple math. You have two Socialists. One is either disabled or just flat disinclined to carry their own weight. One is willing to work for the Motherland and its ideology. One plus zero equals one. One person's efforts does not translate into two people's bread loaves UNLESS One works twice as hard while the other lounges. It might come close thanks to industrialization, but see above for why that isn't likely.

There are simply not enough people in a population to work twice as hard to overcome the lack of effort of some or the disability of others.

Socialists are neither proficient in economics nor world history. Socialism has ALWAYS failed in large groups or nations and its still currently failing in the EU. The only examples I know of where Socislialism DID work (without brutal fascist style leadership) was in small tribes. This is because they were no slave to inclusivity like most Leftist are today. You don't want to help? You get banished! THAT is why it worked and that is why it fails in today's world. Those tribes also had a strong sense of community and family which communism seeks yo destroy. It should be called Contrarianism. Lenin understood this very well which is why he advocated dumping Marxist Communism (no State) for Leninist Socialism (police State).......AKA Altruism by force.

Speaking of book collections, I read everything from Anarcho-Communist Chomsky to NeoCons Glen Beck or Coulter and Fascist Hitler (though he was a National Socialist much like a lot of American Liberals unbeknownst to them) and everything in between. You can't jump on the first bandwagon you see and join without exploring your options.

Ayn Rand has always struck me as a bit of an Anarchist. I find it odd that so many Conservatives identify with her ideology if you want to call it that.

Then again Liberal Democrats belong to the party that brought us Jim Crowe laws in the South, hate Reagan when it was Republican Reagan who gave amnesty to 11 million illegals in the 80s, love Hillary the Dem when Hillary railed for the DOMA Act preventing gay marriage in the nineties, and worship Republican Abolitionist Lincoln when Lincoln's own memoirs and letters confirm both his disdain for slavery as well as his disdain, disrespect, and distrust of American Black slaves.

Make no mistake, Liberals only like minorities and the oppressed just as long as they don't have to live next door to one. Liberal or not, they still have their cliques and give only lip service to abolishing such institutions

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[DohcBikes]

Ayn Rand has always struck me as a bit of an Anarchist. I find it odd that so many Conservatives identify with her ideology if you want to call it that.
Just started reading Atlas Shrugged and trying my damndest not to skip entire paragraphs like I do when reading political views on 3WW

[ironchop]

You almost have to......its the John Galt diatribe sections that bore me to death.

I try and keep my thread posts under "Galt length" for this reason.

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[El Camexican]

Great read I Chop. You could have replaces the word "communist" with "union" and it would still have been a good read.

I hope one day an alien race comes here in peace and explains to us exactly what does work to keep everyone on a planet happy, but I suspect they would tell us we aren't supposed to, or that we wouldn't be able to do it without a serious DNA makeover. We're just not wired for everyone one to get along and pull the wagons in the same direction all the time and I can't think of one species that is.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Mr. Chop: While sometimes I find that you and I do not see eye to eye on some of the finer points and hair splitting, overall you are someone I stand shoulder to shoulder on almost every issue without fail.

In other words, I really enjoy reading your comments. :)

[El Camexican]

I hope one day an alien race comes here in peace and explains to us exactly what does work to keep everyone on a planet happy

Holy cr*p! It may have already happened! Someone check the scripters for a passage that says; "and they shall come in the form of wookiees"!!!

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[RIDE-RED 250r]

Yeah but he`s on the left and you`re on the right .......does`nt that make you want to kill`em , clean`em , eat`em and then sh!t him out ......all in the same day ?


Na.... Whether the "compass" places us left or right, it's easy to see that based on statements made here that pretty much all of us are on the same page, with some disagreement on the small things... Same with you Glamy! :D

[ironchop]

I don't belong to either political party. I'm perplexed that more people don't dump BOTH parties. They serve absolutely no purpose but to divide the pirates and thieves into the Pirates and the Thieves.

I used to vote for "lesser of two evils" but that doesn't get us anywhere either and I got burnt on that. I thought Gore would bring on NWO. Bush jr jumped in the hot seat and set it off with some Patriot Act shyte. Pat Robertson called it, too. I would rather support the fringe losers and "waste" my vote than to submit to the fix.

Everyone knows that you can't simplify everything in life into black or white but for some reason, they like to vote that way. Just like a lot of people know the global banksters pull all the strings but they keep trying to change things by electing new puppets.

I would be hard pressed to find anything wrong with capitalism or American politics if it weren't for those people mucking it up because power trip







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[ironchop]

Yeah but he`s on the left and you`re on the right .......does`nt that make you want to kill`em , clean`em , eat`em and then sh!t him out ......all in the same day ?
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[RIDE-RED 250r]

Nuge' for pres!! :D

[Billy Golightly]

Here is mine. I am a little surprised it wasn't further down the Libertarian/Anarchy spectrum frankly. But some of the questions were much to broad to answer with jut the simple agree/disagree bubbles...http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=226590&stc=1

[Mosh]

^^^^ not surprised at all with your placement based on our interaction over the years



almost center with authoritarian lean here..also surprised I did not go higer up authority rank, but I am not into dictatorship either.

:banned:

I feel mankind needs government or some type of authority. The problem is no men or women on this planet is qualified for the job nor can they be, being a product of modern society. Too many morals and values have been washed away over 1000s of years of greed and self fulfillment

[Scootertrash]

But some of the questions were much to broad to answer with just the simple agree/disagree bubbles...

Argee 100%

Here's mine:

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: 4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.38

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[Billy Golightly]

^^^^ not surprised at all with your placement based on our interaction over the years



almost center with authoritarian lean here..also surprised I did not go higer up authority rank, but I am not into dictatorship either.

:banned:

I feel mankind needs government or some type of authority. The problem is no men or women on this planet is qualified for the job nor can they be, being a product of modern society. Too many morals and values have been washed away over 1000s of years of greed and self fulfillment
Does that excuse me any for my behaviour? :)

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[Mosh]

Does that excuse me any for my behaviour? :)

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[ironchop]

This is the second time I took the test since I found it two years ago. I got different results but I think that's good because it shows me I can evolve my beliefs to fit current reality.

I once considered myself a proper Anarchist in the classic sense (not modern "record store, rattle can anarchist)

Then I realized that human nature ALWAYS ultimately dictates what ideologies work and what don't.

I agree with Mosh. A lot of people require authority or social hierarchy. We are just animals with opposable thumbs and technological capabilities. Outside of that, we are flawed and prone to worse decision making than even the dumbest of "animals"

Anarchy or Communism are well and good until the commune or individual up river starts crapping in our drinking water supply and then you need some good old fashioned fascism to go spank somebody's ass upstream.

We HAD good society. Then some college professors in 1960 starting telling kids that morals and values, being social constructs, were to be questioned and shunned.

For example: People who hate Christianity also reject Christian morals and ideals. It never occurs to these people that maybe the god they think is fictional wasn't out to ruin your good time. Maybe not committing adultery was a way to prevent jealousies and all the issues that arise from that including violence and abuse, out of wedlock pregnancies that hurt everyone, prevent the destruction of a sound family structure, and prevent the spread of STDs. Nope. All they consider is their own individual freedoms at the expense of the community. God and old people hate orgasms and that's the only reason they made up such guidelines. Its not communism to expect certain ideals to be preserved in your community and its not "being sovereign" to go out nailing every girl or guy you can find. This is just one example.

That being said you don't need religion to be moral, responsible, or considerate. I haven't been to church in 30yrs but I try to do the right thing just because. I dont need a weekly "burn in hell" threat to keep me on track.

The toughest thing I face everyday is having a work and home life in which I have to face Generation Crybaby kids all day everyday. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words completely destroy me". All that matters is superficiality, pleasure, entertainment, and ego.

They shun morals, ethics, and the responsibilities in life because they think these things are merely fantasies devised by religious zealots or "old people" and dismiss them all accordingly. They are taught to question authority to such an extent that they're incapable of questioning their own role in society or questioning the agenda of those who tell them to reject authority and tradition.

Society needs standards, leaders, and role models chosen by merit but most of all it needs a strongarm sometimes because some people refuse to act right.

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[RIDE-RED 250r]

Liberty comes at a price, and that price is responsibility... That is a fact that the 60's hipsters forgot to instill in those young skulls full of mush when they preached/preach all of their new age individualism.

As usual, excellent commentary Mr. Chop!

[bkm]

Flaming Liberal here. lol

[Scootertrash]

I agree with Mosh. A lot of people require authority or social hierarchy. We are just animals with opposable thumbs and technological capabilities. Outside of that, we are flawed and prone to worse decision making than even the dumbest of "animals"

I also agree with the above statement.

In "real life" tho, the animals that make the stupid decisions are eliminated. Eventually.

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[Billy Golightly]

I've had mostly bad experiences with government and authoritative figures since I was a kid (Probably with a little help from mom and dad) so thats where my libertarian streak comes from. I just really don't think there should be the ability to regulate or do much beyond physically inflicting harm on other people...





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Dangerous idea. Especially now-a-days it seems.

[ironchop]

Most new laws are no more than feel good drivel invented an effort to justify their jobs. The rest are an effort to sneak in the iron fist.

I really dig the flow chart. Its really that simple.

If we removed all the BS, Congress would only have to be in session 14 days a year. That's a lot of golf.


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[RIDE-RED 250r]

I'd have to fact check this, but I seem to recall reading about how congress DID only meet a couple of weeks a year back in the early days of the republic.....

[Mosh]

I've had mostly bad experiences with government and authoritative figures since I was a kid (Probably with a little help from mom and dad) so thats where my libertarian streak comes from. I just really don't think there should be the ability to regulate or do much beyond physically inflicting harm on other people...





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Dangerous idea. Especially now-a-days it seems.looks like the TF drag racing bracket from a few years back....

The problems are not the new laws, its the primaray laws that were not enforced that made the non enforcers creat more laws to not enforce, in order to circumvent the original simplicity of the original laws..Kind of like race classes. Everyone has to have a class for red shoe laces, or black googles on top of the simplified engine cc limits..All for one individuals happiness.

[Billy Golightly]

We're gonna just have to agree to disagree because neither of us will change the either's mind with all the postulating in the world :)

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[Mosh]

I gave up on changing peoples minds long ago. .

A man that don't know, don't know that he doesn't know...Simple as that. Raising kids in itself will change your outlook.