Custom 350x

[oscarmayer]

I am building a custom 350x trike. Here are the specs.
Customized frame and now accepts 450r footpegs.
Trx450r rear swinger
Crf450r forks (polished)
Trx450r rear shock (Milnerized)
Custom foot pegs
Frame and other parts blue
Swinger and some parts white along with white body parts and IMS large tank.
38mm mikuni carb
Customized airbox
Tons of custom

What do ya'll think on these options.
350x takeout motor in mint shape with new oil deals ready to run or a rebuilt 350x with 12:1 piston and heavy duty clutch set?
This trike is being built to sell so I need maximum $ for it. What would be best? More power or new?


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[350xtrike.rider]

Looks awesome man! Definitely rebuild it with the high comp and HD clutch!

[onformula1]

Looking good, you won't want to sell it when it is finished. :lol:

[oscarmayer]

Maybe, but I have too. It will buy Austin his new frame and some parts we need for our projects.


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[arlaunch]

I think building a bike to sell is an absolute loosing proposition.

Unless it is pure OEM of course.

If that is the case i would think the original non messed with motor would be the way to go. That way if problems develop down the road...( literally) You can say it was untouched.

IMHO.

[onformula1]

I think building a bike to sell is an absolute loosing proposition.

Unless it is pure OEM of course.

If that is the case i would think the original non messed with motor would be the way to go. That way if problems develop down the road...( literally) You can say it was untouched.

IMHO.

Well, I guess it depends on what you paid for a truck load of trick parts.

[Dirtcrasher]

Don't Mikunis eat dog poop to jet??

You'll have way too much $$ in it to sell it......

[xrider]

Part it out for maximum money.

[DohcBikes]

Well, I guess it depends on what you paid for a truck load of trick parts.Huh? No it doesn't.

If you got a great deal on a truckload of trick parts, it becomes even more obvoious that the best profit would come from parting it out.

For future reference: Buy low, Sell high.

What's happening here is very likely: Buy low, invest more time and money than you care to remember, then sell at or below market value because you need to recoup the cash fast.

There are VERY few markets where complete customs will make you any money. Ain't no jesse james here.

[oscarmayer]

Well we shall see. I am doing it right and hope someone who has $ wants a nice custom trike.
Anyway I appreciate your input but let's keep this about the build not what ya think about selling.

Reason for not parting.. Simple. I want someone to enjoy a trike not a bunch of parts.

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[Matt85'350x]

I really like what you got started and will be following this thread. Who did the frame mods?

[Dirtcrasher]

I just don't let money be a factor. I get everything I want, when I want it.

Everyone knows I sell near nothing. Normally, I just give it to you. And the guys that want my custom sh!t don't wanna pay for it at 35$ an hour Machine shop.

I bet I have 30K plus in machines and tooling. So, tool your own crap....

Go down to your local machine shop and get some price..... So, I'm not making anything for anyone who isn't in my "really good club guy".

All this crap I have NOS or very nice used if I needed to sell I could.

Just bought a new 35MM Air Stryker 35MM carburetor for the Blaster conversion. I'm just finishing a few things 1st before I start chopping it all up.

In the future, there will be a 450 build, I'll just have to scratch my buddy and friends back!

I believe onformula1 is helping him. From what I gather he seems to be a great and intelligent person.

He's also the ONLY one to reach out to me a couple times we when some BS went down, and we were on the same page.

I look forward to speaking with him soon.......

[oscarmayer]

I believe Jason Hall did the frame and triple trees.

[oscarmayer]

ordered the dog bone piece of the suspension and it should arrive soon! Milner (onformula1) is reworking the true TRX450R rear shock and making it into a remote reservoir style shock so we can move it to the other side of the trike and out of the way like the stock shock had.
I ordered some extra pieces and will be getting a custom swing arm piece done to be able to have a sleeve that goes all the way across the swinger since there is no engine it will mount through. that will allow it to stay solid and remain secure w/o the sleeve moving during operation.
once I get those 2 things done, then it should be solid and ready for more work. will be installing a LSR axle, and bearing carrier. Will be using the TRX450R rear brake assembly and rotor assembly. Front will be a 10" wheel with rear tire and CRF450R front braking system. Still trying to decide on the levers and such. will be using the Yamaha 250 dirt bike reservoirless rear master for the it. Got a nice SS fatty xlr400r header that I will use for it.

decided to go with the 350 rebuilt motor with the upgraded clutch and 12:1 piston. will also invest in a web cam. stage 1 so I do not have to worry about rockers and all that at this time.

[DohcBikes]

Here goes the wordnado again...

Sorry but when you fairly well abandoned the last two builds that got no further than a frame I kinda lost the ability to accept that this wont be another waste of time on the readers' part. Your builds tend to have mountains of discussion and speculation but no outcome. It's exhausting. We often hear more about your personal life than we do about the build we are trying to follow.

I know people will damn near burn me at the stake for this post and I obviously do not care. I truly wish you the best of luck on this project and hope to see the talk turn into something special this time. Maybe this post can be as intended, a motivator, instead of being incorrectly perceived as negativity.

[Matt85'350x]

Here goes the wordnado again...

Sorry but when you fairly well abandoned the last two builds that got no further than a frame I kinda lost the ability to accept that this wont be another waste of time on the readers' part. Your builds tend to have mountains of discussion and speculation but no outcome. It's exhausting. We often hear more about your personal life than we do about the build we are trying to follow.

I know people will damn near burn me at the stake for this post and I obviously do not care. I truly wish you the best of luck on this project and hope to see the talk turn into something special this time. Maybe this post can be as intended, a motivator, instead of being incorrectly perceived as negativity.

You are not being forced to read this thread. If it pains you so much than don't click on it. I for one like the way this project is headed.

[Matt85'350x]

I believe Jason Hall did the frame and triple trees.

Did this frame used to be owned by "the goat"?

[onformula1]

ordered the dog bone piece of the suspension and it should arrive soon! Milner (onformula1) is reworking the true TRX450R rear shock and making it into a remote reservoir style shock so we can move it to the other side of the trike and out of the way like the stock shock had.
I ordered some extra pieces and will be getting a custom swing arm piece done to be able to have a sleeve that goes all the way across the swinger since there is no engine it will mount through. that will allow it to stay solid and remain secure w/o the sleeve moving during operation.
once I get those 2 things done, then it should be solid and ready for more work. will be installing a LSR axle, and bearing carrier. Will be using the TRX450R rear brake assembly and rotor assembly. Front will be a 10" wheel with rear tire and CRF450R front braking system. Still trying to decide on the levers and such. will be using the Yamaha 250 dirt bike reservoirless rear master for the it. Got a nice SS fatty xlr400r header that I will use for it.

decided to go with the 350 rebuilt motor with the upgraded clutch and 12:1 piston. will also invest in a web cam. stage 1 so I do not have to worry about rockers and all that at this time.

BTW, this is a Yamaha YFZ450 rear shock and that is a good thing!

[bkm]

Yeah, don't waste my time here. I'm on a tight schedule.

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[oscarmayer]

Did this frame used to be owned by "the goat"?

yup!! it sure was.

[oscarmayer]

orry but when you fairly well abandoned the last two builds that got no further than a frame I kinda lost the ability to accept that this wont be another waste of time on the readers' part. Your builds tend to have mountains of discussion and speculation but no outcome. It's exhausting. We often hear more about your personal life than we do about the build we are trying to follow.

Actually nothing was abandoned. The builds are in different stages. So please ask before you make false statements. Not everything happens in days as you want it too. sometimes we have to save up more $, or some parts are being manufactured or rebuild or things are being custom modified. I don't cover every little detail in my builds because i do not want to bore people over everything. so do me a favor, please stop posting in my threads unless you can be polite and constructive. right now your trolling my thread and it really is not needed nor warranted..

just so your "abandoned" mind knows we already have over $4500 in the Baja trike builds. think we would just toss those aside? Lets see what you got and are building or have. lets see your trikes.

[oscarmayer]

BTW, this is a Yamaha YFZ450 rear shock and that is a good thing!

awesome! cannot wait for your to work your magic buddy!! :)

[oscarmayer]

Yes because clearly popularity and economic status are the important issues when dealing with mechanical and technical topics.

nothing to do with $. has to do with manual imagination and talent.
226713
what do you think of this? what do you think it is?
I built it from ground up.
Started out life as a Raptor 125. was totally redone with a racing YZ85 engine running a 90cc BB setup and tons of other mods. yes i built the entire bike from ground up and even modified the frame and re-enforced it. stocker frame si junk and bent last race of the year. new Chromoly is currently being built. so please before you go trashing me, think before you speak. I do all my own work including engine building. i have porting done on the cylinders by a specialist, the rest is by me. Still think I am just a fan boy?

[oscarmayer]

Yea parts came!! New dog bone here!!! Forgot the special bolt that bolts it to the swinger. Grrrr will have to order one of them now. But I will put in a temp just to get it in there!
Will clean and paint white to match rest. This trike is coming together!!


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[oscarmayer]

ok fork dog bone fork is drying. ordered that special bolt for the dog bone to bolt to the swinger with new orings and new nut.
I should be in great shape now as I have everything else.
I am looking to see about the tube for the swinger bearing/bushing. not sure if i should have one made, or see if a 350x stocker would work. may be worth a try.
Going to talk to a polishing guy tomorrow for some pieces that need to be done up.
I have a new unused OEM seat that will be used as well as new in the box Meir fenders in white. I am thinking of getting a MX graphics kit made for it. wondering on headlight assembly and shroud.

[onformula1]

Did this frame used to be owned by "the goat"?

As Mike said yes it was his build, I had the pleasure of meeting him and his wife when they dropped of a trike to me in Phoenix, AZ.

Nice people, I wish he would post more. I heard he was heavy into Jeep rock crawler type vehicles now.

[El Camexican]

It's exhausting.

Maybe this can help.:beer

http://wonderopolis.org/wonder/why-does-reading-make-you-sleepy/

[barnett468]

Maybe this can help.:beer

http://wonderopolis.org/wonder/why-does-reading-make-you-sleepy/

"Why does reading make you sleepy?"

I tried reading that but I kept falling asleep...

[El Camexican]

"Why does reading make you sleepy?"

I tried reading that but I kept falling asleep...

I know! Weird eh? Same thing happens to me half way through many of your posts.:wondering

[barnett468]

This trike is being built to sell so I need maximum $ for it. What would be best?

Well, if you are simply looking for money, the "best" would be to put the bike in the shed and rent out that nice looking spare room you are building it in to some hot looking college exchange student for $400.00 bucks a month.


OPTION A.

........................... Wie geht es Ihnen Herr Oscarmayer? Ich bin Heidi!

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OPTION B.

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[barnett468]

I know! Weird eh? Same thing happens to me half way through many of your posts.:wondering

Yeah, that happens to me too so it sometimes takes me days to write them.

[El Camexican]

Face it Barnett, the only one of those two options you could "ride" for under $5,000 is the trike, so start saving.

[bkm]

Can we get on with this build? I'm pressed for time.

[onformula1]

Can we get on with this build? I'm pressed for time.

I just want to hear the water ski story.

[barnett468]

decided to go with the 350 rebuilt motor with the upgraded clutch and 12:1 piston. will also invest in a web cam. stage 1 so I do not have to worry about rockers and all that at this time.

If you can't run that on straight 91 pump gas it will be next to impossible to sell.

[bkm]

I just want to hear the water ski story.

As long as it's not a waste of time. I'm forced to continue to read this post and I'm disappointed in it's progress to this point.

[onformula1]

As long as it's not a waste of time. I'm forced to continue to read this post and I'm disappointed in it's progress to this point.

Well, if you consider Mike has 4 or so very nice builds going, his son's very trick race quad, lots of other cool trikes, some strewn across a few States and a woman most would not leave to go out in the shop, it may take a bit of time. :lol:

[oscarmayer]

I have not "followed" you around. I lost info to all treads if I have some. Don't flatter yourself DOHC. I know very little about you except you seem to love to troll threads.
If I tried to get someone banned. I am sure it was probably for a VERY good reason.


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[oscarmayer]

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Got the dog bone installed and swinger bolted. Still working on the tube to go all the way across.
Many parts on the way for this and will be taking the forks to be polished tomorrow.
All in all starting to come together.


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[Dirtcrasher]

Do you have something in mind for the center of the swingarm bolt?

I had to make a center collar so those sleeves don't creep in or fall out.

Not sure if you planned ahead a bit, but I also took enough meat off the swinger pivot sides to put a few thousandths wide thrust washer to take up and wear or play from side to side.

[Jmoozy27]

Nice looking setup, but I have a few questions:

1. What did those triples come off of?

2. What mm forks will they fit?

Other than that, knock yourself out Mike. Looks to be a nice start to a solid build. It may take time to find the right buyer, but in DFW and south of there in general it's quite tough to find even a shotty 350x much less one that will require no legwork. Which is what people of today desire.

[onformula1]

Do you have something in mind for the center of the swingarm bolt?

I had to make a center collar so those sleeves don't creep in or fall out.

Not sure if you planned ahead a bit, but I also took enough meat off the swinger pivot sides to put a few thousandths wide thrust washer to take up and wear or play from side to side.

I received the measurements today. :lol:

[oscarmayer]

@ Jason:
The triples are from Jason Hall. The forks are CRF450R dirt bike forks. So pretty good stuff.

@DC:
Yea thank you sir! I actually talked to Milner today to get a collar made to go all the way across to stop exactly what you mentioned from happening. It will be perfect! The tightening will squeeze the frame to the collar and the swinger will still be free to move EZ. I even installed the urethane bushing kit so no more bearing issues.


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[oscarmayer]

Update,
New bolt hardware came in last night for swinger linkages and shock bolt on. Yea!! Love new!!
Ordered new bearing carrier. Not gonna use the stocker as it is has nicks taken out of the adjustment ears plus new has double row bearings.
Have matching clutch and brake levers so that should be good.



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[oscarmayer]

picking up forks today from being polished!!!! lets see how they did!!!! :D

[oscarmayer]

Not ready on the forks yet...
[emoji35]

Did install all the new bolts on so everything on the swinger is new bolts.


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[oscarmayer]

Did this frame used to be owned by "the goat"?

Yes this was his frame. I took over the project and modified it for what I think is best.

[oscarmayer]

Here are some updates photos and details.

Top end will be natural alloy color with clear costing on it.
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The Wiseco piston is preped and ready for installation. This motor had very lot hours on it. I was surprised at the lack of wear on any of the internal parts or clutch. I went ahead and rebuilt it and put new clutch parts in just for good measure.


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[atcmatt]

Always wondered about the wiseco hi-comp pistons for the 350x, if they were worth opening a low hour engine up and putting one in for a power gain? Nice build by the way.

Matt

[oscarmayer]

there is about a 2-3 HP increase over stock piston average and with proper supporting mods who knows. this build will be about 8-10hp over stock due to all the mods and supporting stuff for it. Everything from carb swap to cam and springs and piston. Also high quality exhaust and header being installed to finish it. so it will be sweet when done!

[atcmatt]

Yeah sounds like wouldn't be worth opening up my stock motor just for a piston. Like you said you would want to compliment the piston with all the other modifications and I'm not ready to ruin a survivor original for that. All the best with your project.

[onformula1]

Is this thing running yet?

Take off the skirt! :lol:

[onformula1]

Yeah sounds like wouldn't be worth opening up my stock motor just for a piston. Like you said you would want to compliment the piston with all the other modifications and I'm not ready to ruin a survivor original for that. All the best with your project.

I don't think you would ruin it, but Mike would build a full blown race motor for a crate trike and turbo a AMC Pacer. Some people like to tinker, when I was a kid in school I would mod ink pens for smoother action. :lol:

[ironchop]

How come the smilies look like fukken peeps now. Always the last candy left in the Easter basket...peeps

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[oscarmayer]

^^haha no kidding right?

[userj8670]

What carb and exhaust did you go with? Looking sharp! One other quick thought - wouldn't the clear coat 'yellow' fairly fast due to the heat these air cooled motors make? Just curious

[oscarmayer]

i am running a mikuni round slide 38mm carb. and a Fatty SS-header. i have not decided on what stinger (muffler) to run. I was toying with the idea of a 450R one.

the engine heat clear will not yellow. that is what I used. it has ceramic in the paint that helps keep it form turning. Now there is not enough to trap hear. only to keep the paint from burning off.

[atcmatt]

Yeah true that Milner, I love to tinker, nothing better than it. Probably should leave my 350x alone and start on this 70..

[onformula1]

Yeah true that Milner, I love to tinker, nothing better than it. Probably should leave my 350x alone and start on this 70..

You could build a basket case motor to play with.

[atcmatt]

That's true but try finding a 350x motor over here!

[onformula1]

That's true but try finding a 350x motor over here!

Rare down under?

[oscarmayer]

We can ship you one Matt if you want one. I have a spare. Can be either rebuilt for you or send as is and you rebuild it. Your choice.


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[oscarmayer]

Installed piston and cylinder last night. Going to temp install the head to test fit everything.

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[Dirtcrasher]

It's all nice and clean, I like that!!

[atcmatt]

Yeah 350x's were never released here downunder. All the 350s here are imports from the states. Thanks for the offer man but I think I am just gonna stick with the stocker for now, until I'm loaded! Haha. Think another liquid R will be on the cards next!

[oscarmayer]

I got the top end nearly complete. Has a aftermarket performance cam, Wiseco 12:1, and complete redo. Everything is looking great!! Cannot wait to get it done!!

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[onformula1]

Looks great, very clean!

Nice work.

[oscarmayer]

Ty sir!


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[oscarmayer]

So got a 3-day weekend. Goal is to get the engine done and mounted into the frame this weekend.
Going to install the custom build 350x front suspension on the front to see how it looks.


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[350xtrike.rider]

What is the life expectence of a high comp piston vs. a stock comp?

[oscarmayer]

Normal. As long as you keep it tuned and run a minimum of 91-93 you should be fine. I typically ran 12:1 with 93 here. If you prefer you can go to 97-98 octane but it is pointless to run the c12 stuff. I build it to work with less octane and me solid.


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[oscarmayer]

The motor is complete. You can see I have the top being alloy and the bottom being black. Much like the HRC bikes and trikes back in the day were.

I even Blued the outside fin edges of the head instead of being. Just bare flat, I wanted it to tie into the blue/white design better.

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[atcmatt]

Looks sick!

[oscarmayer]

Thank you Matt. i am glad the motor is done. i took my time and would assemble and dissemble parts several times checking fitment, and details. i think i probably rebuild it like 6 times before it was done. LOL

[onformula1]

Thank you Matt. i am glad the motor is done. i took my time and would assemble and dissemble parts several times checking fitment, and details. i think i probably rebuild it like 6 times before it was done. LOL
Dude, you got it bad....rhythms with... OCD.

We are a tight knit group, LOL!

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[atcmatt]

Best way to do it mate. Measure twice, cut once!? Looks mint man, can't wait to see it all done.

[Mackus84]

I did mine for my 200X the same way. Looks great.
231411 i did paint the jug though. I wanted to get it back together and the bore machining was already done. Didnt wanna wait and take it or send it to get blasted somewhere

[oscarmayer]

I did even blast all the bolts so they are clean. Then when I paired the bottom I painted them too. I like them black instead of chrome. I could have replaced them but like I said I like the idea of all black.


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[oscarmayer]

Teaser photo of trike with fenders and seat setup for mocking shock height during rest.
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[350xtrike.rider]

All ready looks beautiful!

[Matt85'350x]

Wait, I thought this trike was getting inverts?

[NeverLift]

There's an invert triple sitting on the carpet in that pic.

[Matt85'350x]

There's an invert triple sitting on the carpet in that pic.

Good eye but why bother hooking up the OEM ones if it's getting inverts?

[NeverLift]

So he can sit on it and make four stroke noises without tipping over.

[350xtrike.rider]

I like the engine hiding back there :lol:

[oscarmayer]

Hahaha you Guys crack me up!!!
After some lengthy discussions. It was determined the inverts would not bring much added value to the trike as it is. We figured it would only increase it 300-500 in sale but if I was to sell them separately with a fill custom rebuild on the forks (courtesy of Mr. Milner) I could sell those for $1500 for the set with the triples. So, this is why.
Now, the forks have been fully redone with all new race tech calving and upgrades springs so they are not stock. They should work nicely for MX. If the person wants the inverts instead then I can work a deal out to include them but the price of the trike will go up obviously. And they would be "Milnered" still.


Here is the triples.


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[oscarmayer]

More work done today.
Blasted and painted seat mounts. Seat is a NEW OEM seat that is being used for this build. Yep. It was fitted and then stored in a box for years. I got it from seller just for this project.
Triples mounted and new front fender installed.
Things are coming along very nicely!!
I also blasted and painted the latch and spring. So everything is getting blasted and painted or redone. The engine mount bolts are being sent to Milner for re-zinc.

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[onformula1]

Is that a 2016 350x? Or a 1987?

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[Jmoozy27]

That babies looking clean mike!!! What size forks do those custom triples fit?

[oscarmayer]

those are stock 350X rebuilt and redone with racetech internals and resprung.
rear shock is being Milnered ;)

[oscarmayer]

Is that a 2016 350x? Or a 1987?

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i say we call it a new 2016 350MX model! ;)

[Jmoozy27]

those are stock 350X rebuilt and redone with racetech internals and resprung.
rear shock is being Milnered ;)

I'm talking about the inverted triples, what forks do they fit?

[oscarmayer]

ahh, they are CRF450R forks. i have the forks. i am going to get Milner to redo them and we are going to sell them, They are from Jason hall. If your interested, Talk to Milner. He can work out with you a deal and he can customize the forks for you to your liking.

[oscarmayer]

Worked in the trike more. I found my old set of Renthal trike racing bars with the cross brace. Got them from an old school racer 15+ years ago and thought this was the build for them.

I polished the bars and the foot brake pedal.
Polished the brake lever and painted the master. The rear master is still drying.
Installed the new SS front brake cable.

It is finally looking like a trike.


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[oscarmayer]

Installed forks and other parts. Polished parts of the clutch lever and installed tether switch. Looking more and more like how I envisioned it!!
I ordered the grips and some other parts I needed.


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[oscarmayer]

more goodies!! Completely rebuild caliper and new EBC pads. Custom drilled rotor



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Does anyone have one of these fender support grommets? Attacked to the bracket that is on the bottom of the fenders and helps support them. The grommet looks like a small challace.

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[oscarmayer]

built s custom race harness. To stop the motor you pull the tether. To start connect tether and kick it. Nothing more.



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[oscarmayer]

Rebuild and repainted the Honda thumb throttle. Installed harness and connected tether. Installed grips and rear master brake cylinder. Looks like I will need a custom rear brake line once I decide how I want to run it.
Installed new rental bar pas for old school bars. I am really going to hate letting this one go.


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[El Camexican]

I am really going to hate letting this one go.

I don't know how you can.

[oscarmayer]

Yea I know. But this money will pay for the remaining needs for the BAJA trike. BAJA is calling!!!!


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[oscarmayer]

It is getting closer!!


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[Jmoozy27]

Is that a jeswinehart number plate? It look awesome!!! I need one...

[onformula1]

Is that a jeswinehart number plate? It look awesome!!! I need one...
He copied me...lol

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[oscarmayer]

thanks!
been working very hard on this one so every little detail is right. I am going to hate letting this one go. I am so jealous of the new owner.
it will be put up for sale upon completion. the funds will be used to pay for the Baja trike build.

[onformula1]

Divorce equals more shop space

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[oscarmayer]

Divorce equals more shop space

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Hell yes it does!! Haha even Jessica is like just start it inside and open the doors. (She reminded me she loved the smell of race fuel in the morning. I am so dam lucky!!)

More progress! Made some brackets to hold the number plate where I wanted it to be.
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[The Goat]

Looking good buddy

Pity I lost interest, but everyone sold out.

That was a helluva trip right there.

[oscarmayer]

Looking good buddy

Pity I lost interest, but everyone sold out.

That was a helluva trip right there.

Thanks buddy! I am doing it right. I hope whom ever gets it really likes it.


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[oscarmayer]

Woohoo!! Got a roller!!!bi actually impressed myself with how it turned out!



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[350xtrike.rider]

It just looks soooo goooood!

[oscarmayer]

Tanks!


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[Red Rider]

Looking good! Will the front brake line be re-routed the proper way (between the fork leg & wheel)?

[oscarmayer]

Looking good! Will the front brake line be re-routed the proper way (between the fork leg & wheel)?

Thanks buddy! Been taking my time to do it right


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[fabiodriven]

Great build man, the machine looks really nice!

I must say however, unless you're basically just going to hold out and gouge someone, this concept of a build for profit just makes zero sense to me. I believe as someone said, "Ain't no Jesse James' here" or something. I mean basically just because you've decided that your bike is a "for profit" build, is that all that's entailed in making a profit from the bike? Doesn't selling the inverts and compromising a huge part of any trike build (inverts have fast become a defining focal point of both style and modern function) kind of prove exactly what was said from the beginning? You don't make money on trike builds unless you're commissioned to build a trike for a paying customer really.

Take my 480 build for example. Just guessing let's say I have $5,000 into that build. I built it for me because I wanted it. Someone who wanted it really really bad might pay $3000 for it. Most people who would pay that much don't have any money at all, but they'll gladly tell you what they'd pay. So if I decided right now that I changed my mind and rather than building for the love, I decided I had done that build for profit, does that make my trike worth $6,000?

So having been built for profit I'm curious what you'd ask. I have a ballpark what I'd pay and what I feel it's worth. I won't pretend I'm in the market, but I'm just curious how the money gets made here. I don't understand funding two builds by adding a third build. This would be a rare occasion of that working out.

I just wanted to say, Damon may not be well received but he does make sense. I feel as though our country is being trained to ignore reality at times. You guys might not like what he says but he makes a very valid point.


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[JacobMonster]

Great build man, the machine looks really nice!

I must say however, unless you're basically just going to hold out and gouge someone, this concept of a build for profit just makes zero sense to me.


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Well we shall see. I am doing it right and hope someone who has $ wants a nice custom trike.
Anyway I appreciate your input but let's keep this about the build not what ya think about selling.


Maybe Im just taking fabios comment the wrong way. If so, ignore/delete this post.

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[fabiodriven]

If it weren't about the sale it shouldn't have been brought up. I've seen 1000 350X builds on here. I know how to build. What I want to know is how the profit is going to be made.


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[oscarmayer]

Appreciate your input Fabio, this isn't my first rodeo. I got this sir.
But again much appreciated on the concerns.


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[fabiodriven]

Alright very good bud. Good luck with the sale.


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[oscarmayer]

Thank you sir!


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[oscarmayer]

Welp, got the thumb throttle with the carb instead. Don't like how stuff the spring is. Going to work on softening or replacing the spring. Will make for a smoother pull when done. May have to swap to a TRX thumb throttle. Will see.



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[Dirtcrasher]

What's a ballpark asking price for this machine gonna be?? 4K 5K?

[IKE-Z]

Looking sweet! Is this going to fit out of the doors coming out of the house?:rolleyes:

[oscarmayer]

Yep DC your right there! $5k is my goal for this build. So would be awesome I got that mark! Any more if gravy! If someone did $5200 I would split the shipping costs.


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[oscarmayer]

Looking sweet! Is this going to fit out of the doors coming out of the house?:rolleyes:

Haha yea. We just gotta take the rear fenders off and no motor yet. Then turn it sideways. Will definitely need 2-3 people cause my doors are special European doors with big glass. Not my choice. They came with the house so kinda stuck with them. :/

We will test fit everything and he motor then remove it and bring he trike to the front of the house to the driveway and is talk it again and work on fluids and first start. Have not orders jets for it yet because I need to attempt a start to see where she sits as it is.


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[Qdude79]

Why do you ask?

Because I want/wanted to know if someone is being forced to buy this bike. If so, it should be built to their agreed specifications. If not, it should be built how the builder chooses and potential buyers are free to purchase or pass.

[El Camexican]

These are all valid and important questions to anyone considering spending Five Thousand Dollars on a 350x. Answers should help with the sale. Thanks in advance.

Are you planning to buy the trike if you like his answers?

Do you have the funds available, or will you require a payment plan?

Can you post a photo of your money?

Was the cash obtained legitimately?

Are you over the age of 18 and if not do your parents know you're on the Internet?

These are all valid and important questions for a potential buyer

[knappyfeet]

. Painting the bolts is a shortcut, no way to argue that. Are shorcuts the way to a .

It only looks like some are painted ........the rest looks normal. I wonder if a Eastwood zinc kit would be in order. Not as good as the Casewell kits but a quarter of the price.

This is coming along very nice and I can see 5K for it.

In all honestly I'm a little lazy to read the entire thread but I can easily see profit at 5K or less.....depending on what the entry fee was and the cost for this and that.

I'm going to read from the beginning now

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[El Camexican]

Don't you guys see what can happen to the custom market if we don't hold people accountable for their mistakes?

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the Tractor Supply fenders on your build.

[redsox]

Damon, don't do that, man. Don't high-horse it like that. It makes you sound like a douchenozzle. If you're gonna call a guy out, call a guy out. Don't get all snarky and condescending and then say "i was as nice as possible." Its unbecoming of your knowledge, talent and skill level. Furthermore, it waters down your point, and tends to make the reader completely disagree with you. I'm sure thats not your goal. Now, like many others here, i'm no expert. I'm here to learn. I'm interested in this build. Im interested in what he did well, and what could be better. I'm also curious as to what the bike will sell for. You seem to have some input on the matter. Input that would be well received, if it were delivered with some tact and basic respect. You owe it to yourself to be better than that.

[ironchop]

FFS......I'm going back to Facebook for my trike fix....which is sad. Mickey was right. All of ten minutes I was on 3WW today.

Nice looking build whether you make money on it or not, still nice. Have a great day.

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[fabiodriven]

FFS......I'm going back to Facebook for my trike fix....which is sad. Mickey was right. All of ten minutes I was on 3WW today.

Nice looking build whether you make money on it or not, still nice. Have a great day.

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Doug it's unfortunate to hear you think that way.

Oscar you're obviously a really nice guy and the bike looks really good. Not 5k in my eyes, but it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay. I don't understand how you expect to make a profit but I don't have to. Good luck with the sale bud!


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[fabiodriven]

Damon you deleting your words? What's wrong with you buoy? You prove your point or eat your words, one or the other!


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[DohcBikes]

Damon you deleting your words? What's wrong with you buoy? You prove your point or eat your words, one or the other!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMeh, it's not worth it. The people that are defending the opposing opinion don't use logic or reason they just get personal and immature, intending to devalue me as a person instead of providing any relevant input. Let the grown children throw insults, all I did was ask some questions.. He's over valuing, and not being completely honest with how this bike has been built, however, it doesn't affect my life, so I'm over it.

[knappyfeet]

Everybody loves a 350

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[tjbrem89]

No Hate here brother , the build looks great!
Post some more pictures when you can.

[Dirtcrasher]

Even doing 95% of my whole 350RX build myself, it probably wouldn't bring half of the $$ that I have into it.

Your learning and enjoying the build and that's how you should look at it.

We are seeing more and more conversions being built that are race and trail ready with OEM and AM parts available.

That's your competition IMHO...

[Mickey Dunlap]

I'm building a 73' ATC 70, sold it before I even started putting it together for $3259, I have added up what I have in it now with parts, paint and powder coat and I'm just over $3600 with no labor. LOL Bryan Ditches 350x is well over $6000 with no labor cost to him, you don't make money on custom builds. I enjoy it, that's all I get out of it. IMO Mike Palmgren is one of the few people that does the quality that can demand the money out of these to make a little , but I'm sure the love of doing it is what drives him.

[El Camexican]

Hey Oscar, maybe you should move this thread to the Financial Advice Forum?

[manbearpig]

with all due respect for what youve got done... 23 pages spread out over two threads and this thing doesnt have a motor yet?

[sittinguy]

Looks good, my first thought on selling it is,,, DON'T. No one will love it as much as you. Your hard work, your vision. If someone has 5k to throw around, then of course they have a few more to build one just like they want. Anything is possible.
I had a NOS rear 85 fender that I held onto for 15 years. Finally decided to sell it. I wanted $2000 for it. I got so many nasty emails from haters on ebay. But I waited and someone finally hit the buy it now button.

Go with a 36 tooth rear sprocket. trust me.

I spent WAAAAAY more than 5k on my showgirl, and that was almost 20 years ago.

[redsox]

any updates on this build?

[oscarmayer]

waiting on zinc plating of the mount bolts to be completed. once they are done, I will mount the engine. I was working on an oil cooler mount, but realized I needed the engine installed to confirm where I wanted it.
carb attachment to throttle is completed, but need a different carb spring as it is way too stiff.
installed levers and front brake line as well as some lever grip covers.

for those wondering, don't worry, this build is going exactly as planned and costs are exactly where they need to be. my only goal is to build one heck of a running trike for some lucky person to enjoy.

[oscarmayer]

I forgot to add, we have a tank. I tis being polished. it is a stock sized plastic tank in white for it. we decided against the oversized ims because for an MX trike it will be in the way of moving around the trike for cornering and such. I did not want the stocker metal because that can get hot and radiate heat on the track which will make the rider hot as well as heat the fuel more than I like. (alloy is different but stocker metal tends to warm up) if I could have found one, I would have loved to install a short track tank on it for MX but there was not one made so stock sized plastic is the ticket. this is a old school plastic tank so should fit well and look cool when completed.

[Velislide]

Too much rattlecan work & clashing colors, but otherwise looks like it will be a super clean bike. I'm guessing it will go for around 2400-2800$ tops? Anyone would is wanting to dish out cash on a high dollar, clean 350x, is going to watch it as clean & original as possible. This bike has obviously been built, to the owners taste, without buyers in mind. Not trying to be mean, just honest.

[redsox]

hows the build going?

[oscarmayer]

not too bad thanks! sorry I typically post more on FaceBook than here on my project.
will be mounting the motor in the frame early NOV. so that will let me do final fitment of the new oil cooler and how to run the some lines and such I am waiting on.

[oscarmayer]

So I got the bolts re-zinc plates by Onformula1. Thanks buddy! Awesome work!!

I mounted the engine over the weekend and test fit everything. It is gonna be awesome!!!
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Once everything is complete and we get a 3lb weight to mimic fuel weight in the tank, I am gonna set the rear shock pre-load per specs so it sits right and will handle jumps and such.
So far everything is coming together nicely!!


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[fabiodriven]

You and Milner are a disgrace to the community. This bike should be seized, sold, and the funds generated divided up amongst the victims who you and Milner have ripped off.

[oscarmayer]

You and Milner are a disgrace to the community. This bike should be seized, sold, and the funds generated divided up amongst the victims who you and Milner have ripped off.

your attitude and harassment is a disgrace to the community. I have not done anything wrong to anyone. to attack me with such hate for NO reason is in itself terrible acts of racism against someone whom does not agree with your opinions.

Thank you for showing your true colors.
your now blocked...

[fabiodriven]

your attitude and harassment is a disgrace to the community. I have not done anything wrong to anyone. to attack me with such hate for NO reason is in itself terrible acts of racism against someone whom does not agree with your opinions.

Thank you for showing your true colors.
your now blocked...

I do strongly dislike you, don't use the "H" word.

We're both Caucasians.

[JacobMonster]

your attitude and harassment is a disgrace to the community. I have not done anything wrong to anyone. to attack me with such hate for NO reason is in itself terrible acts of racism against someone whom does not agree with your opinions.

Thank you for showing your true colors.
your now blocked...
Oscar, Im not sure if you do or do not understand the frustrations many have.
If Milner is holding parts, and even at the least, not sending them back to their owners is frustrating.
Unless he is in his death bed and cant move, people should atleast be getting there parts back, finished or not.
You praising him for his awesome work or the fact he worked on YOUR stuff while many projects have been stalled because he's not working on them. People will be really upset that you are praising the man.
To my knowledge, neither him nor you have given anybody a clear reason why he's not working on the projects.
And understandably, if all people know is that he is not working on others suspension, and theres no response from him explaining why, people will naturally be inclined to side with the victims and flogg all who still stand beside that individual, which you are standing beside.
I dont know all the details, very few do, but you need to understand why everybody is upset and you seem to be ignoring that.
This is how a lot of people who read the arguments are going to feel towards you and Milner.
Truly, Elmexicam said it the best.
We are judged by the people we associate ourselves with.

I do wish you the best in this build.
Its turned out pretty awesome, besides all the drama, right or wrong, thats now associated with it.


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[86T3]

Racism? Racism? Really?

Anyways, serious question, why do you need to mimicking 3lbs in the fuel tank? That's only like a half gallon of fuel?

[oscarmayer]

I need to ensure I have some extra weight for "fuel to ensure the rear shock pre-load is correct for the initial setup. granted it will have to still be changed by the rider later, but this is a starting point.

[El Camexican]

We're both Caucasians.

I tend to think of Oscar as more of a cockasian.

[El Camexican]

So 5 1/2 months turnaround time on the hardware plating? That's pretty fast considering Milner did it.

When's the Facebook auction?

[Matt85'350x]

As far as the trike goes-it should have had the inverted forks like was originally planned. Other than the rear end there isn't a lot "custom" about it. The inverts would have brought the whole modern suspension theme together. It does look nice but again not quite to the level of the original plan.

[oscarmayer]

Matt the frame has a ton of custom work done. The foot pegs were converted to TRX450 and moved back 2.5" for better balance and more cockpit room.
That is just a small taste of what was done.
So yes tons of custom.


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