Our next President?

[sledcrazyinCT]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by sledcrazyinCT http://www.3wheelerworld.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?p=1432472#post1432472)
Apparently Huma has a personal Yahoo account shared with her estranged husband. FBI has possession of his computers and that could have implications for HRC.


Here ya go:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441573/hillary-clinton-corruption-foundation

Comey probably wanted to indict Clinton back in July, yet couldn't follow through simply for the fact that good old BHO knew about Clinton's email server since the beginning. How can the DOJ nail Clinton to the cross without also going after the POTUS.

Comey was ridiculed for not bringing a grand jury three months ago. So this new development has lead to a possibility of indicting Clinton without it involving Obama.

Comey is trying to maintain credibility and avoid a mutiny within the FBI. So the takeaway for all voters is to finally recognize career politicians will say anything and then completely reverse their position time and again.

So Democrats praised FBI director Comey in July and now are calling for his resignation. Bottom line is the source of this whole fiasco was because of Hillary Clinton, not anybody else!

[Billy Golightly]

I surmised several months ago that may have been the source of Hillary's coughing condition...:shiftyeyes:

[Dirtcrasher]

The damage is done.

Obama will pardon her before he gets kicked out of the White house.

But, Obama knew about her server and did nothing. So, maybe he won't!

[knappyfeet]

Yep, classic hair ball cough, or as the doctors call it, Pussatightis.

Ok............that's it..........

That one might be a little hard to swallow (I'm expecting tripledog on this one) but I'll pretend I didn't hear that and just go back to my own little fantasy world.

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[tripledog]

Ok............that's it..........

That one might be a little hard to swallow (I'm expecting tripledog on this one) but I'll pretend I didn't hear that and just go back to my own little fantasy world.

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Holy Mackerel! Now that's a mouthful...

[Billy Golightly]

Ok............that's it..........

That one might be a little hard to swallow (I'm expecting tripledog on this one) but I'll pretend I didn't hear that and just go back to my own little fantasy world.

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Is that really her??

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[Scootertrash]

Glamour shots can work miracles.

[knappyfeet]

Is that really her??

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Yes sir......a younger version anyway.

[Caminofeld]

In the back of Trump's limousine…

[Scootertrash]

Always remember:

No matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is sick of her sh!t.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Huma just lawyered up this morning. Bet Hillary isn't too pleased with her girlfriend.

[sledcrazyinCT]

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[sledcrazyinCT]

Hope Trump can win PA, he needs it to reach 270


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRAYY08Jw64

[sledcrazyinCT]

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[sledcrazyinCT]

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[czac]

Hope Trump can win PA, he needs it to reach 270


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRAYY08Jw64

Hopefully! Now he just needs to promote his platform and not say anything about anything else. no more BS... just get people to think, "Well, Maybe he would make a good President after all" lol I love the guy but sometimes when he speaks I wanna reach into the TV and slap him and say...NO!!! Dont say that!!! lol

But seriously, I cant remember seeing even one Hillary sign in my travels... I see alot of Trump signs though. I don't even see many Hillary bumper stickers....lol I see more Trump stickers and CCDL stickers... lol

[sledcrazyinCT]

Don't let Hillary fool you.....or Obama for that matter.....Lying politicians from the most transparent administration in history

FOIA requests show new State Department documents (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-state-pagliano-secret-service-01441/) detailing repeated efforts to hack into the unsecure non-state.gov email system used by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in November 2010. The hacks are detailed in email exchanges between State Department IT official Brian Pagliano and Bill Clinton aide Justin Cooper. The emails show the system was hacked 10 times in two days from November 27 to 29.

What's even more appalling is that Justin Cooper had enough sense to inform the Secret Service on November, 30th 2010, providing the email exchange describing these hacked attempts. So back in 2010 another Obama Govt agency was fully aware of clintonmail.com yet HRC was allowed to continue operating her private server as SoS.

It is amazing that a small law firm can uncover details that over a half dozen Senate committee hearings couldn't

[czac]

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I dare ANY of those Liberal Lady-Boys who got so upset about Trumps remarks on that tape to tell me honestly that they could look at her and think, "Wow... I would love to get her drunk and just treat her with Respect!" :naughty:

[czac]

Always remember:

No matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is sick of her sh!t.

Unless he is a Liberal.... if so he is just letting her walk all over him while he does everything she tells him to.

[czac]

Don't let Hillary fool you.....or Obama for that matter.....Lying politicians from the most transparent administration in history

FOIA requests show new State Department documents (http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-state-pagliano-secret-service-01441/) detailing repeated efforts to hack into the unsecure non-state.gov email system used by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in November 2010. The hacks are detailed in email exchanges between State Department IT official Brian Pagliano and Bill Clinton aide Justin Cooper. The emails show the system was hacked 10 times in two days from November 27 to 29.

What's even more appalling is that Justin Cooper had enough sense to inform the Secret Service on November, 30th 2010, providing the email exchange describing these hacked attempts. So back in 2010 another Obama Govt agency was fully aware of clintonmail.com yet HRC was allowed to continue operating her private server as SoS.

It is amazing that a small law firm can uncover details that over a half dozen Senate committee hearings couldn't

Yeah I know, Its not really Hillary we need to worry about at this point, its that Snake in the WH, Obama. whats he going to pull out of his hat next? A pardon for Hill? So what would happen if the FBI finds a bunch of really bad stuff in those Emails? does Hill go to prison? does she drop out of the race? does she still get to run and if she did and gets elected, what then? Does she still go to jail?

[Mosh]

Yeah I know, Its not really Hillary we need to worry about at this point, its that Snake in the WH, Obama. whats he going to pull out of his hat next? A pardon for Hill? So what would happen if the FBI finds a bunch of really bad stuff in those Emails? does Hill go to prison? does she drop out of the race? does she still get to run and if she did and gets elected, what then? Does she still go to jail?
I would guess, somewhere here in the states, there is a private jumbo jet loaded with suitcases of blood money warming up on the tarmac, waiting for the Clintons to board at 12:01 am Nov. 9th, ready to extradite them to a non-extradition country, and the banks are currently transferring millions of Clinton foundation dollars to a swiss bank account, labeled under a "feed homeless swiss kids charities camapign," to avoid the ensuing indictment sure to follow come Feb 2017..

[3Razors]

Hillary for prison 2016!236680

[AK47KID]

Don't get me wrong. I despise this fat mcchicken nugget but this is proof there is hope https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GOnwpOXB_MI

Short version: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4lMp_363B2c

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[Scootertrash]

Hope for what? That fat, Liberal, Socialist POS isn't gonna vote for Trump.

All he is saying is he understands why people will vote for him.

Do you know why he "gets it"?

[jeswinehart]

Dam I gotta get up early for out of town work but my score card is keeping me going to the fridge :)
Just about as good as the playoffs,,,,
Okay,,, back to the game :)

[AK47KID]

Hope for what? That fat, Liberal, Socialist POS isn't gonna vote for Trump.

All he is saying is he understands why people will vote for him.

Do you know why he "gets it"?
Look at the polls doh!

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[jeswinehart]

This may come down to a field goal attempt ~lol

[Thorpe]

This may come down to a field goal attempt ~lol

Hope Blair Walsh isn't kicking!!

[AK47KID]

Lol Canada's immigration website crashed from over load of visitors

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[jeswinehart]

Wow, what a game !

[Mosh]

I am excited. I felt he was gonna win the whole time. Now maybe we can get away from this absoulutely disgusting diaper rash coddling that this country has embraced, while the nannies in charge have embezzled everything from the working stiffs that build and make this country run, and pissed it away..
I am looking forward to a much more hard ass, defense, police, immigration restraint, and elitest subdued country.
He also has the house and senate majorities which is the first time that has happened in a long time..Hopefully gridlock is over..

Lastly, I wanna see miley friggin virus, transvesta gag-gag, and the rest of these entitled over paid no talent ass clowns assatainers, put there money where the mouth is and GTFO out outta this country like they claimed if he was elected, and quit corrupting and mind bending the future generations of this nation, while being perched atop the lying liberal media dildo...

The only thing better than watching him win, was flipping back to liberal media outlets from time to time, and watch them crap down the throats of their zombie followers, painting pictures of grandure to their audience, while they knew the whole time they were going down...THAT was EPIC..Hopefully that just schooled some of the liberal bandwagon followers and permanently revealed to them how much bullshit they have believed.

Damn its gonna be a good day..Just watch how many people are gonna be in a good mood you encounter today..

[redsox]

"while being perched atop the lying liberal media dildo..." wow. awesome.

[atc300r]

Hil-liary had to concede because she got a case of DT. And she also got TRUMPED. Woo-Hoo for the Donald. She will try again in 2020 because the narrow minded ,stagnet,stail Dems wont try to pick a better candidate.

[atc300r]

Hil-liary supporters today at the Border.236718 236719

[yaegerb]

I am excited. I felt he was gonna win the whole time. Now maybe we can get away from this absoulutely disgusting diaper rash coddling that this country has embraced, while the nannies in charge have embezzled everything from the working stiffs that build and make this country run, and pissed it away..
I am looking forward to a much more hard ass, defense, police, immigration restraint, and elitest subdued country.
He also has the house and senate majorities which is the first time that has happened in a long time..Hopefully gridlock is over..

Lastly, I wanna see miley friggin virus, transvesta gag-gag, and the rest of these entitled over paid no talent ass clowns assatainers, put there money where the mouth is and GTFO out outta this country like they claimed if he was elected, and quit corrupting and mind bending the future generations of this nation, while being perched atop the lying liberal media dildo...

The only thing better than watching him win, was flipping back to liberal media outlets from time to time, and watch them crap down the throats of their zombie followers, painting pictures of grandure to their audience, while they knew the whole time they were going down...THAT was EPIC..Hopefully that just schooled some of the liberal bandwagon followers and permanently revealed to them how much bullshit they have believed.

Damn its gonna be a good day..Just watch how many people are gonna be in a good mood you encounter today..

Rob, you ever thought about starting your own line of poetry or perhaps Haiku books? Classic.

[Mosh]

Rob, you ever thought about starting your own line of poetry or perhaps Haiku books? Classic.

I do my best work before my morning dump. .
For some reason when I try to write those thoughts down, either the ink don't stick or it disappeared after I wrote on it. Maybe I am using the wrong paper?


Man who thinks on toilet, flushes dreams down the drain.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Not only that but .....wait for it ........IN YO FACE ! Marijuana is now LEGAL to use in CA. !!!!! ........oh it`s such a bad thing ......in yo fackin face !

Massachusetts voted for recreational use too. Does this mean you will be growing your own Glamy?

[danbur55]

Protesters? LOL! What a joke, seems some folks must not have jobs to go to in the morning.
I guess they didn't vote but want a participation trophy

[Caminofeld]

I was floored at the election results! IMHO the "closet" Trump supporters were what tipped the scales. I'm not a spiteful person, but it did give me a good laugh seeing the reactions of all the butt-hurt lib-tards at work. There were literally people checking in as "suicidal" from the election.

That's all fine and good, but let's all hope he kicks ass and does what he says (or at least as much as congress will allow). If he does it right, it will set things up for the next election in our favor.

[350XJEDI]

:naughtyYahoo ,TRUMP, a win for freedom, thank you fellow trump voters and many thanks to Hillary for calling people deplorable and irredeemable! :):Bounce:Bounce:lol::p:w00t::w00t:

[x-rider]

What's this I'm seeing in the foreign newspapers? The Donald is not going to seek prosecution for Killory, or repeal the unaffordable healthcare act?

OMG! Is the Donald becoming a politician? Say it ain't so, the Mexicans have already ordered the first 200,000,000 wall bricks!
At a dollar a piece from Home Depot. How will they ever afford mortar. Lol.

[redsox]

how come there are no anti-trump protesters in Cleveland????? because the people of Cleveland know how to take a loss!! zing!! i'm here all week. try the veal.

[Caminofeld]

I heard he's modifying or outright reversing his stance on quite a few issues. I don't like the idea that we've been hoodwinked into electing someone that isn't going to do what made us vote for him in the first place…BUT I'm sure he's realizing that running a country is far more complex than he originally thought…plus he's gonna find out about all the secret stuff kept from the public. He does want to bring Americans together and I respect that, in some instances, you have to give a little to get a little…but he is still sticking with the wall idea. I hate how the sensationalist media keeps twisting things around and saying things like he's a bigot because he wants to deport illegals. Entering this country illegally is a crime; therefore all ILLEGAL aliens are technically criminals. Funny thing is, I have coworkers from Jamaica, Nigeria, India, and Pakistan that all voted for him because they're pissed the illegals can come here at will and drain our tax dollars when they waited on a long list to come in legally, worked their butts off to learn the language and get an education, and now pay back into the system as US citizens. I don't think Trump wants to ban Mexicans, I'm pretty sure he just wants them to come here legally…plus the wall would reduce the BILLIONS of dollars in drugs coming here each year…and prevent terrorists from entering the US. I could go on forever. Sorry to rant, I'm just sick of sore losers and media bias…Oh, and does anybody else think these "hate crimes" allegedly perpetrated by DT supporters are actually being committed by the anti-Trump crowd to essentially frame us?

[ironchop]

Nico, you are 100% correct. Our drug war is fake. Why else were my Airborne Ranger buddies protecting poppy fields in Afghanistan? We had the chance to burn down 8 seasons of heroin crops responsible for over 80% of the world supply of heroin. But no, it's more important to rack up a big ass bill with haliburton than to do actual good.

I'm already pissed at Trump......after last night, I can throw all hope for Hillary for Prison out with the trash. Now she's free to jet set the world selling influence she doesn't really have to foreign terrorists. Clinton Foundation will still be a powerful money-laundering slush fund for globalists and terrorists alike. This country is still in eminent danger.

[sledcrazyinCT]

President elect has no power aside from hiring staff until 1/21/17. Why make a big deal that he isn't going to nail HRC to the cross?
Let the current administration keep kicking the can down the road another two months regarding the Clinton Foundation.

If Lynch suddenly decided to hold a grand jury before BHO leaves office we would just see a pardon for her and slick Willy anyway. Trump has 4 years to go after Hill&Bill..... plus do you think Gowdy or Chaffetz will let this slide after attempting to hold HRC accountable for years

[ironchop]

Because you elected him for what he promised to do....now when he breaks his first promise, I'm supposed to ignore that. Take everything he said to heart before election but disregard it as campaign rhetoric after the election so my feelings are protected.....yeah no thanks.

And yes I do think they will let this slide. Have you not being paying attention to the Republican party as a whole for the last eight years? There is a good damn reason they were called cucks by their own kind. Letting things slide and cowing down is what they are famous for

The entire reason for the Trump presidency was supposed to be about changing status quo and putting these crooked mofos on alert and in prison. If we don't hold these elected ppl to task ever, then it's just business as usual.

[ironchop]

Obama and Hillary absolutely hate each other. That's been well known DC gossip for a very long time. I read an article three years ago where a 'whistleblower' claimed that Valerie Jarret and Obama were conspiring to sink Hillary's (then, future) campaign so she would lose because they both hate each other. Hillary has been caught a few times drunk and bashing Obama as hapless and weak when she worked for him. Bill is no fan either.

[sledcrazyinCT]

So this was just campaign rhetoric too I guess?

What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington
Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:
* FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;
* SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);
* THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;
* FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government.
* FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;
* SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

[sledcrazyinCT]

On the same day, I will begin taking the following 7 actions to protect American workers:
* FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205
* SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
* THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator
* FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately

* FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars' worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
* SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward
* SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure

[sledcrazyinCT]

Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:
* FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama
* SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States
* THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities
* FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won't take them back
* FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

[ironchop]

So this was just campaign rhetoric too I guess?

What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington
Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:
* FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;
* SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);
* THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;
* FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government.
* FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;
* SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.


I honestly hope not. It remains to be seen what he will actually do. I'm highly suspicious already because he isn't even the pres yet and already he claimed on 60 minutes last night that he "didn't want to hurt the Clintons" when asked if he would indeed pursue a special prosecutor.

Those are the same old warning signs of a sellout, imo. He didn't even wait until he was president in January to back out of what he said. He gave up on 60 minutes.

I REALLY hope this is all just him trying to appease the crybabies who are destroying property and rioting because they're weak but to be honest, this country is a mess because of all the appeasing we've done to every single weak special interest minority that's come down the pike demanding to be accommodated for increasingly ridiculous reasons. I'm tired of giving them their way and they destroy anyway. I'm tired of giving them the right of choice to abort babies but is it enough yet? Nope they want the right to abort all the way up to 36 weeks because "my feelings, my choice". My son was born healthy at 35 weeks. That's just murder. These people are drunk on power and Twitter and they never stop demanding more. Where do we draw the line? Who knows but every time we draw a new one it gets moved to spare some sissy punks feelings.

That's all I'm suggesting. We need to STAY IN TRUMPS posterior if we want him to put his money where his mouth was.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Having worked for a state govt agency close to twenty years ago I can assure you Trump will accomplish more simply coming from the private sector.
Govt employees rarely have a sense of urgency to reduce spending or improve efficiency. Much like a college professor with tenure, career politicians feel they have job security hence no real urgency to correct problems....what doesn't get fixed this year is put off until the next election.....great talking points about what I will do if re-elected.....

1. Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.
2. End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.
3. American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.
4. School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.
5. Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.
6. Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.
7. End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.
8. Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.
9. Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values
Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics

[sledcrazyinCT]

I agree we need to hold Trump to his promises. I think the people most vocal about him during the election cycle will also be the most critical of him for any short comings or reversals of what he claimed will take place under a Trump presidency.

[The_Steve_Man]

This is what I see.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html

[Mosh]

I am seeing a lot of premature assumptions over what Trump is or not going to do, all over the place.

Look, the reality this guy was gonna get all this stuff done to the extent of 110% was never to be taken literally. This guys has a lot of trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro to shovel, and he is gonna find that corporations, banks, media, lifetime politicians, will provide him with the finest flyswatter and wet paper bag to do so with.

IF he gets 33% done of what he has proclaimed, we will be a better nation and taking steps in the right direction. As far as H rodham is concerned, his delay in dealing with prosecution is smarter than having her prematurely evacuated by ole ape face before he leaves. And lets face it, rich people never go to jail..She may go bankrupt staying out and exposed for the criminal she is, but she will not be held responsible and put in the poke. Even if she was, it would be about as shitty as the top Floor of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel..

If he can at least get blundercare in some form of sensibles use, rebuild our pathetic military, and get a decent Supreme Justice on the bench, and melt some terrorists asses in the process, I will be happy with that.
The economy sucks for sure, but it is still in tact enough for most to make a living if they actually want to work.

Undoing 8 years of that Soul Train-Good Times-Yo MTV raps, friggin party that has been going on, preceeded by a family of lifetime politician oil moguls, and 8 years of Bill -monica and hrod, and His cesspool of hippy love,aint going to get done over night.

30 years worth of trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro to shovel literally, and it is going to take at least 15 years of decent decisions and elections to do so. I am just happy we have 4 more years to prepare, and maybe be left alone for a minute from more freedom opressions.

[AK47KID]

Really mods? My posts got deleted?

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[yaegerb]

Really mods? My posts got deleted?

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please refrain from putting inappropriate pictures on this forum.

[AK47KID]

please refrain from putting inappropriate pictures on this forum.
Like....give me a warning next time instead of deleting it and not saying anything. Thanks

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[yaegerb]

Like....give me a warning next time instead of deleting it and not saying anything. Thanks

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you were just warned......

[AK47KID]

you were just warned......
Because I asked why it was removed, THEN you told me. You could've told me after you deleted it. You could've sent me a pm saying it was against the rules and too "nudity" for the forum. No you waited till after I asked. What ever.

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[yaegerb]

Because I asked why it was removed, THEN you told me. You could've told me after you deleted it. You could've sent me a pm saying it was against the rules and too "nudity" for the forum. No you waited till after I asked. What ever.

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If you already had concerns about it being too "nudity" for the forum, why post it in the first place? If you have to ask yourself if its safe, it probably isn't. Carry on.

[Scootertrash]

Like....give me a warning next time instead of deleting it and not saying anything. Thanks

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When you post a pic like that with the comment "This will probably get me a temp ban", you already know.

[AK47KID]

When you post a pic like that with the comment "This will probably get me a temp ban", you already know.
A heads up would've been nice, I've see similar that you guys post and it doesn't get deleted with out a heads up. All I'm asking is if I "break" the rules tell me/give me a heads up and I will remove it my self. No need to remove it and not tell me. What if I didn't say anything and posted something similar? Like just a pic and nothing else. Would I have been banned? No need to beat a dead horse so this is my last comment about this. Carry on with the original thread topic

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[Scootertrash]

I've see similar that you guys post

Show me 1 post of mine anywhere close to that, or anyone else besides a certain member.

Of course it's a dead horse to you, you don't want to admit any fault, you're the victim. dohc taught you well, always play the victim. Is your last name Clinton?

[Scootertrash]

Glamy has a problem .......he can`t afford obama care

Maybe you shouldn't have voted for him. Twice.


my feeling is you must eliminate the insurance for profit part of healthcare and let doctors work direct for the government !

All your bitching and complaining about how crooked the government is, how it screws all the taxpayers, and how the rich run everything, and you want to let the government run healthcare? Do you think it will be "free" then? What's your pre-existing condition? Brain damage? Or just plain old stupidity?

Name me one friggin government run program that isn't rife with fraud, cheating and overcharging. Name me one government program that was ever successful and not FUBAR. But you don't care as long as you think you're getting something for free.

Pay for your own health problems, leave the other taxpayers out of it.

ETA: You live in Californistan too doncha?

[Scootertrash]

We all have a problem, not just you...

MEXICO: Two systems, private and public hospitals

Private is pretty simple, you either pay at the door, or buy insurance. The insurance is pretty easy to get, no peeing in a bottle or questions about pre-existing conditions, just "do you smoke cigarettes, or more than 2 cigars a month?" and you can't get treated for anything major until you've had the policy for 6 months. There's even a "alta riesgo" option that I opted for that covers motorcycle crashes. The three of us cost me anywhere from $4,000 to $6,000 a year depending on the Peso conversion. It's actually gone down in terms of USD lately because of the conversion. Deductibles are about 15% and it kicks in after you spend a night in the hospital which the doctors are happy to do for you. The parking lot is attached to the hospitals, a man in a suit opens the door for you and you are admitted almost instantly. The rooms are private and very nice. The whole affair is like checking into a 3 or 4 start hotel. Sounds pretty freaking awesome eh? Well, it us, right up to when you get old. My mother-in-law is 84 and it's costing about $900USD a month for her and meds and checkups are extra. It goes up every year. They basically wean you off the insurance with increases as you age so that you don't end up costing them for a long term ICU bed at the end of your life.

Public AKA IMMS is pretty nasty. There is a source deduction on everyone's paystub to cover it whether or not you have private insurance. As long as you live in a home that has someone contributing you are covered, but if you live on the street, or like El Chapo you're not. If you get hurt you get a note that gets you off work and nets you about 60% of your regular pay. As you can imagine it's full of cheats. The doctors are the same ones that work in the private hospitals, many of which as US educated, but the equipment is very old and they are often lacking equipment and supplies. Kind of like mechanics with only a Crescent wrench, hammer and screwdriver trying to rebuild an engine. I know a lot of people that have had goo experiences in the public system, but more so with a scheduled operation than an emergency. I learned something really scary here last year when my wife's 94 year old aunt was dying of congestive heart failure. They wouldn't give her any opioids because the government investigates any doctors that write prescriptions for them. She was in some kind of pain for almost a month. I seriously debated a One flew over The cuckoo birds nest ending for her. It was awful to watch.

There is s joke down here "What's the difference between Frankenstein and the Six Million Dollar Man? The Six Million Dollar Man was treated in Houston, Frankenstein went to IMMS"

CANADA: Public hospitals

The term "free" is grossly misused. Anyone with a job is paying stupid money to support this sinking ship. The lines up are long, my mother almost died in a waiting room back in the 70's and my Dad waited over a year for a hip replacement and is now at almost 2 years to get his knee fixed. That said Dad always paid every nickel of his taxes, Mom worked as a nurse all her life and both my brother and sister are doctors, but they all wait in line with able bodied people that haven't worked a day in their lives and live solely off the taxes of others. I truly believe it will collapse one day, just as the Mexican IMMS will.

So why are all these systems such a mess? I think it's a combination of lawyers and inept government employees. If you could remove the insurance costs doctors and hospitals pay and run the hospitals competitively like hotels I think you could lower the costs exponentially, but there's a third problem and that's the value we put on human life.

We get old, we die, we get really sick, we die, it's the law of the jungle. Why should Canadian tax payers be covering the cost of a 70 year old newly immigrated AIDS victim's gender reassignment? (true example). My cousin died at 42 from cancer, they spent almost $500,000 treating him even though they know he was terminal. Even his mother who was a hospital administrator all her life was uncomfortable about him receiving this costly experimental treatment.

There comes a time when we need to just call it a life and check out. There could easily be a "level of care" option in a private package that you could tick off boxes of what you want covered as you age that would make basic care for the healthy, but aged and financially challenged affordable, but the minute someone was faced with a terminal condition caused by something they didn't tick the box on there would be a lawsuit for wrongful death.

If you want to discuss this further come to MTY, I'll talk your ear off and then we'll take you to the hospital and get it sewn back on for about $400 bucks.


WAIT!! You mean it's not all it's cracked up to be by the Left?? Say it ain't so!

[Scootertrash]

I`m not looking for something for nothing i just want a better deal

Says the guy who admitted thinking that Obamacare would be covered by taxes already in place.

[Scootertrash]

Please don't tell the others!

K!! Our secret. Pinky swear!

[Scootertrash]

Jeasus H. Fricken Christ .......so i did`nt slave to some Butt-facked company with a retirement package ? ....why ?...... so you can drop dead a year later ?........kill me now ......yeah how bout something from our taxes already in place instead of your death and destruction trying hold up the lie that was 911 for 16 foogen yrs. !!!! Whats Trumps tax plan ?....strait up 15% across the board ? ........I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP scooter .......Trump .....Trump ......Trump Trump .......Trump .....sounds like your lame arse 4-stroke scooter ........eat some Lutafisk scooter ....... eat my do-do scooter .........we got 80`s in Nov. here in namy-pamby land scooter ........ come on down i`ll introduce you to Polley Shore ......bra !!:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool: :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

Your post:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H348Q0Cs9A

It must have been hard on you when you found out your birth certificate was an apology letter from a condom company

Oh, yea: President Donald J Trump
He's got some daughters Ivana hump
He'll swing thru sand dank to take a big fat dump
Trump Trump Trump

[Caminofeld]

The answer to the healthcare debacle is…that there is no good answer.

Research gets done because there's big payouts for better drugs, procedures, technology…therefore the incentive exists to continuously search for improvements…take the financial incentive away and the progress slows. That's why there's so much money in big pharm…flip side is they repeatedly push products that are in their interest disguised as being in the best interest of the consumer.

A highly regulated government takeover would hypothetically take the greed factor out…but if you follow history it will most likely end up like most government programs and raise taxes, be overfunded, run ass-backwards, expand beyond its own good, and end up being a burden to healthy taxpayers. It would only be those with pre-existing conditions that benefit…and many pre-existing conditions come from poor choices (diet, drinking, smoking, drugs, etc.) so how is it fair that I have to pay for the diabetic with CHF and ESRD that chose to eat like crap and never exercise?…oh, and they have 9 kids living the same way that you'll have to pay for too because they're living off government programs…oh, and even though abortion is against your beliefs you'll have to pay for those too because people don't feel like using condoms…oh, and because of that you'll also have to pay for their AIDS and hepatitis drugs as well…the list goes on...

The slippery slope is that a failing government takeover could also lead to the fabled "death panels", where someone decides who would benefit the most from procedures vs the least and consider the best option first (well you're 86 and will die soon anyway even with the lifesaving cancer treatment, so we'll give it to someone younger instead and just give you symptom relief until the end)…or it will take years of waiting to get a procedure done.

Anyone that trusts government healthcare just needs to look at the VA for a picture of the future.

Private sector is a ripoff too, but honestly the high rates are to compensate for the people the government forces them to insure that they're losing tons of money on...

[Scootertrash]

C'mon now, let's bring any common sense into this.


The thing I love about threads like this is watching someone who complains about the greed, graft, and corruption of goverment say they want the .gov to provide them with "quality" low priced healthcare.

[Rob Canadian]

Some of our health care is payed for. Some is not. I pay $200.00+ extra every month for my coverage. (Canada)

Just my $0.02.

[Scootertrash]

So now is the time for all good "children of the corn" to come to the aid of their party ? .......history shows they`ll fack it up (you sell insurance) what if we show them not to fack it up ? ......Private sector is a ripp-off (not only that it`s.....NOT SUSTAINABLE) .........so all you cute 20-40 yr. olds good luck trying to ever retire and make sure you don`t have a pot to piss in because .........they are entitled to it more then you are !!!!! .....what a concept ......Hey El Camexican they only let you bring 10K at a time ? .....Those cabrones !........after i get rid of all tangible assets i`m gonna stick around until i get real good and sick and den ........I`M GONNA MAKE YOU PAY FOR EVERYTHING !........or maybe you should terminate me now with extreme prejudice because i`m not the perfect Zombie human being like you goody two shoes .......you don`t drink don`t smoke ......what do you do ? ......we could eat the weak of our society and openly defecate them out on the street because they were a burden to the healthcare system ? .......These are not personal attacks on anyone Camino or scooter but i`m "sick" of the excuses that you make for the first world !!! .....one more little bit of sh!t .......if there was a major problem like earthquake or nuke bomb or appidemic .......all the doctors and hospitals are nowhere near enough to take care of all of the people ? ......and this is the best you can do ? ......the hospital near me has over a million people designated for it ! ....GTFO of here....you don`t stand a chance and you want to feed them more money ? .......and you like this ? ......only pricks that sell insurance like this .......I could buy a new 250R every month for what insurance costs ........oh but thats fair !

Is this appidemic you speak of available for Android?

Define "fair" for me. glamy? Anybody?

Is it "fair" for people who live fairly healthy lifestyles to pay for the smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc. ? I don't think so. I might be partial to a "3 strikes and you're out" type program, but some people can't be helped and some don't want to be.

As it is now, it's illegal in the U.S. to turn away someone at the hospital based on their ability to pay. So guess who pays for it? You should be proud to have high insurance premiums glamy. Look at all poor, helpless, homeless, gangbangers, inner city poverty stricken ghetto babies and Moms with 5 baby daddies, illegals, drug addicts, etc, that you're helping out. Mother Theresa would be proud.

Sure, it can be fixed, but there are those who will come out on the short end of the stick no matter what, especially if the .gov tries to run it. Look what they've done with Social Security. Everything in healthcare costs money. Look at what El said about Meheco and Canada, it'll be no different here.

I quit smoking 10 or so years ago because it would kill me. Wasn't easy, but I did it because, well, slowly suffocating to death from Emphysema or lung disease doesn't sound like a very pleasant way to CHOOSE to die. Most of us won't be able to choose how we die, but I sure as hell ain't choosing suffocation. I've watched 4 people die from smoking related health problems. Doesn't look very enjoyable to me. Not to mention the burden they put on their loved ones.

Overpopulation? Another leftist "crisis". But yet there's nothing but drama and tear jerking newscasts when there's a hurricane, earthquake, tornado, etc. So what is it? Are we overpopulated or not? You complain because we're overpopulated, but then you complain that there's not enough facilities and staff to save every victim of a large natural disaster? If we're so overpopulated shouldn't we be welcoming a few hundred deaths here and there to bring the population down? F'n a dood, you can't have it both ways

How many kids do you have glamy?

How many kids should the government ALLOW a couple to have? 1? 2? we livin in China now?

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ETA: Taxpayers fund these types of workshops?

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[Scootertrash]

We can call ourselves civilized all we want, but at the end of the day when the chips are down and you're fighting for your last breath the law of the jungle prevails.

Instead of only the strong survive, soon it will be only the rich survive when it comes to healthcare. The only thing the weak or poor will ever inherit is heaven, so start praying.

Otherwise known as:

Always watch out for number 1, unless the sh!t hits the fan. Then watch out for number 2

[Caminofeld]

As it is now, it's illegal in the U.S. to turn away someone at the hospital based on their ability to pay. So guess who pays for it? You should be proud to have high insurance premiums glamy. Look at all poor, helpless, homeless, gangbangers, inner city poverty stricken ghetto babies and Moms with 5 baby daddies, illegals, drug addicts, etc, that you're helping out. Mother Theresa would be proud.
237079

Like I said; no good answer…best just to figure out which system is sustainable and of the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people…


But here we have a dilemma of ethics. In Nursing school I lied my way through ethics classes because I am a darwinist at heart. If I was actually allowed to have an opinion without being put in danger of failing due to my belief system I would have started with this:

We can all agree that saving a life feels great…in fact, some people in healthcare live for "the big save". On paper it looks morally correct to resus that gangbanger full of holes or give that Narcan to reverse the heroin overdose…but what if you knew that the gangbanger you saved would, a year later, fire a stray bullet that kills an 8 year old girl? What if the heroin addict you bring back shoots an innocent grandfather in a mugging trying to get cash for his fix? Is that ethically right to allow this? Statistically the people who recover from addiction is less than 10%…and the number o jailed criminals that don't commit crime again after being "rehabilitated" and released is about the same (at least in Baltimore). Also, people with these problems have kids a hundred times more likely to fall into crime and substance abuse. Wouldn't the ethical thing really be to let these people die to save the lives of better people? If we allowed them to die we would reduce the number of criminals, drug abusers, and "products of the system" exponentially. That would cut down on wasteful healthcare spending, right? What if we gave healthcare discounts to people that attended the gym 3x/wk and didn't smoke cigarettes? Same thing. I suppose the hairy areas would be "what constitutes unhealthy?". Is my drink and pipe on the weekend considered deadly as much as the alcoholic that smokes 2 packs a day? Will genetics play a role? Will the powers that be consider your locale, place of work, family history, thyroid, radon, number of x-rays, amount of organic food, proximity to power lines, fairness of skin vs. sun exposure, vacations to high risk areas? The list could go on forever…or would they make "common sense" decisions like taking away our right to bear arms? Again, no good answers…just the better of evils...

[Dirtcrasher]

Some of our health care is payed for. Some is not. I pay $200.00+ extra every month for my coverage. (Canada)

Just my $0.02.

That doesn't seem too bad. With all the stupid health problems you get once your over 35, (LMAO), it'll keep you from bankruptcy.

I never thought it, but when you get older, stupid injures happen and you have to have a good regular doctor. Or it sucks...

Ya know; You may have 10 years of only seeing a doctor or hospital a few times. Then, something happens, like you reach for a pen, and your spine snaps. Or you use a chainsaw and destroy your shoulder, tighten your valves and your clavicle gives out; I speaketh the truth LMAO!!...............

We should all be stretching and lifting here or there!!

[Scootertrash]

Hoeleee crap! glamy and me liked the same thing!! :wondering :naughty: :w00t:

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It's amazing, isn't El? The Party of Tolerance won't tolerate the fact that they lost. Not to mention the assaults and violence directed at Trump supporters.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/10/hillary-supporters-assault-white-trump-supporter-video/

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/16/trump-supporter-assaulted-during-student-protest/

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/matthew-balan/2016/11/12/abc-cbs-spotlight-assaults-trump-supporters-nbc-censors

And lookee who is "alleged" to be involved in financing the anti-Trump protests:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/matthew-balan/2016/11/12/abc-cbs-spotlight-assaults-trump-supporters-nbc-censors

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/soros-fingerprints-notmypresident-protests/

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/soros-funding-hiring-anti-trump-protesters/

[Scootertrash]

lol glamy!

[Scootertrash]

Well, glamy is gonna chupa your chalupa, so you've got that going for ya!

[knappyfeet]

It's amazing, isn't El? The Party of Tolerance won't tolerate the fact that they lost. Not to mention the assaults and violence directed at Trump

They look like whiners............even to their own.

Had my "Bikers For Trump" shirt on last Sunday at the Golden Corral (forgot it was under the sweater) in Victorville Ca..

Maybe it was early or maybe it was Sunday but all went well.........although I didn't quite enjoy my bacon and eggs quite as much as I usully do.

[AK47KID]

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[barnett468]

Had my "Bikers For Trump" shirt on last Sunday at the Golden Corral (forgot it was under the sweater) in Victorville Ca..

Maybe it was early or maybe it was Sunday but all went well.........although I didn't quite enjoy my bacon and eggs quite as much as I usully do.


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[barnett468]

(forgot it was under the sweater)


...and they don't wear sweaters....ever!

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[tripledog]

Body fat and tats kick sweater azz every time.

[barnett468]

Mudder Faukers! You're running up my dislike count! Barnett's not gonna like the competition!

Yes, but unfortunately most of mine came from the same small group of people, so I was unimpressed by my inability to annoy a larger and much more intelligent audience.


Don't give up yet barn...practice makes perfect ya know!

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[roostin atc]

...and they don't wear sweaters....ever!

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I'm glad to see Harley Davidson is still giving out vests. Those make up for quarter mile times.

[roostin atc]

Ape hangers are optional for handling.

[3 Wheel Drive]

...and I don't wear sweaters....ever!

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I thought you rode a Kawasaki?

[barnett468]

Same guys that got you banned from all those other sites, killed Kennedy and took down the Twin Towers? Those guys? :shiftyeyes:

http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/hysterical.gif . Once again I'm flattered and amused by your obsession over me, however, I suggest you take down the photo of me you have hanging over your bed and put up one of the female gender and try real hard to start obsessing about that. :rolleyes:

It's also amusing how you are selective in what you post and ignore the huge number of "likes" I have received here from a WIDE variety of people which includes some from long term well liked members....oops, how did that happen? . http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/shrug.gif

Since you are also so obsessed about what people think of me on other sites, I will post some notifications for comments I received from just one for now to help satisfy your obviously insatiable desire to know all you can about "The Great Barnett".http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/bow.gif

Below is the list of ALL the notifications I received in just the last 30 days which include 2 positive ones from the moderator of the forum whose name is RPM . There are literally HUNDREDS of other POSITIVE comments and NO negative ones but I wouldn't want to crash the site by posting them all nor do I think that anyone other than you and maybe one other disturbed person here really gives a flying %#$@!$# about any of this nonsense anymore and have realized there are far greater concerns in life than to spend time worrying about other than what a small handful of others think about me.:crazy:

Also, I have no idea what your comments about me have to do with the threads topic, and since you try to make me the focus of many threads you post on even if I am not posting on them, perhaps you don't understand their titles or simply need some (several) sessions with Dr Phil.http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/thumbsup.gif


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[3 Wheel Drive]

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[barnett468]

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The only one obsessed with you is you :crazy:


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OMG barn...I just peed my depends!

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[Scootertrash]

May I help you?

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[barnett468]

Says the guy who invents a character called "Aramid" during one of his many site bans and then starts sending PM's to people telling them how smart Barnett is. :wondering :lol:

I'm not saying your mentally disturbed, but you might want to get your head checked by a professional. Start with an MRI, odds are they'll find nothing.

Well you are wrong again as usual but that's par for the course, and continuing to incessantly post comments about me like you are really doesn't do much more than confirm that you are still in fact obsessed with me in one way or another and bore most others here whom couldn't care less, however, my guess is that because of your obvious insatiable need for attention, you will continue to post your drivel in a feeble attempt to look like a "big man" and try to have the last word however amusing and irrelevant that last word might be.


Wow beav...that elwhatever person reminds me of the psycho chick in that fatal attraction movie.

Yeah butthead, but hopefully he [or she] will finally find some peace and happiness and focus his odd attentions elsewhere if someone gives him a pet for Christmas.

Maybe he'd like a nice Llama beav....I know I sure would!

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[tripledog]

Some folks are way beyond help.

Finally, someone that understands me.

[AK47KID]

Should I like jump in or something....

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[AK47KID]

Ya, screw it...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mkTPgZZXnU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q

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[AK47KID]

What is it that I'm wrong about? (the question mark is there so that you can have the last word)

You are the bigger kid El Camexican with the accent and barn is Charley...you get what you ask for...

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[tripledog]

That was sofa king harsh.

[AK47KID]

I hate kids ........18 yr. commitments ......mortgage payments .....college tuition .......if AK47KID came from my loins (not possible) he`d get a nice arse whoopin every day after school ......dat way you learn to ......STFU .....KEEP QUIET.......little boy blew .........he needed da money ......hey now ..... hoe ......hey ....hoe .....your as welcome as can be M-I-C....K-E-Y why because we love you ........MOUSE !!! :Bounce:eek::Bounce:eek::Bounce:eek::Bounce:eek::B ounce:eek::Bounce:eek::Bounce:eek::Bounce:eek::Bou nce[emoji481]beer[emoji481]beer[emoji481]beer:beer DATS AOOLL ....STEP OUT !
Thank you glamster! Love ya too!!

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[AK47KID]

No, you should just STFU or something. Don't you have something better to do, like make love to the sofa cushion?

Oh wait, the cushion only does bottoms, scratch that.
.... "or something" okydoky poky. Okay let's see.....


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qN72LEQnaU


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[Scootertrash]

.... "or something" okydoky poky. Okay let's see.....


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qN72LEQnaU


Maybe I could be of service?

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[AK47KID]

Maybe I could be of service?

237639
Who dat hoe?

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[AK47KID]

Come on Scooter, enlighten the poster child for Planned Parenthood advocates.
Whoa whoa WHOA WHOA!!! FÜK Planned parenthood. Killing babies is NOT cool.

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[AK47KID]

No one said anything about killing babies. Ever hear of contraception? Remember those balloons you used to find on the floor of your mom's bedroom when you were a little kid? You know, the ones that tasted kind of funny and never really got round when you blew them up?
No not really. :confused:

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[AK47KID]

Still have no idea...speak English....oooohhhhh yeah.... oops.....

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[AK47KID]

Like you'd understand proper English LOL!
I just wanna be a mehkanic!

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[Scootertrash]

Who dat hoe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock

[tripledog]

Spock was Vulcan awesome in the original Star Trek.

[Mosh]

I'm still waiting. Please tell me what it is I'm wrong about and please stick to "facts" do you deny that you have acquired the most dislikes of anybody on the site? Or, that you have mental issues which are exhibited by the invention of a pretend friend named "Aramid"? Or that you have been banned from this and multiple other sites?

Please hurry up and answer this yourself before one of the other two stooges jumps in to distract us from the question at hand.

Barnett will not answer to this. He has never answered to any questions about his claimed legitamcy.
He acts like people obsess over him, when he clearly can not understand the fact, the people are actually obsessed with truth and honesty, and taking out the lies and bullshit.

My wife and I moderated this sight for over 10 years, we constantly ran IP checks on Barnett and some of his chronies. Not only did they start multiple accounts to circumvent bans, but they lied about the locations..Forum ownership ho-hummed about how to handle this nonsense and never did anything about...A few years back, I made the statement that these guys were single handedly destroying this forum with lies and general unwillingness to be honest and non inflammatory with other members, but yet the desire in their head to be accepted as some self made messiah was the ultimate end game... I was right. These guys are like a case of herpies. They go away, then resurface and sometimes the flare up is painful and long lasting and quite contagious..
Like BKM said how can someone be banned multiple times, and have basic forum priveledge revoked, still have the audacity to log back on? Its crazy...He has no edit button so when and if lies get exposed, he can not go back and undo his bullshit...
" the local copy and paste crew" was a brilliant nickname for these bozos....

I mean who the trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro in the world actualy has to type they were a alleged factory mechanic of one of the worst reliable models of 3 wheelers after every trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro post...Not even our resident former honda factory racer, with god as his copilot, that actually has credentials and proof to back up his past, needs to bask in that level of arrogance
Quite frankly I went insane as a moderator trying to deal with this nonsense and I still cannot pin who is more efd up...Barnett and his persistance to obtain some out of world status, or the ownership for letting this stuff go on as long as it has...Now removed, I kinda get enjoyment out of watching this trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro anymore. Your batshit crazy if you think he will address these facts of his time here..he wont...
He does lead the forum in dislikes, with his chronies in close 2nd, has started multiple forum accounts, not just aramid, and has been banned from multiple musclecar forums and here, yet he still has a few scrotum polishers hanging from his skiveys...Their ignorane will be their own problems..Even if some revelation comes to fruition this guy was the inventor of the modern wheel or gasoline, the accomplishment will never shine through the mountains of bullshit that have been piled on.

[Scootertrash]

"yet he still has a few scrotum polishers hanging from his skiveys"

That there is sig worthy material!

[AK47KID]

Barnett will not answer to this. He has never answered to any questions about his claimed legitamcy.
He acts like people obsess over him, when he clearly can not understand the fact, the people are actually obsessed with truth and honesty, and taking out the lies and bullshit.

My wife and I moderated this sight for over 10 years, we constantly ran IP checks on Barnett and some of his chronies. Not only did they start multiple accounts to circumvent bans, but they lied about the locations..Forum ownership ho-hummed about how to handle this nonsense and never did anything about...A few years back, I made the statement that these guys were single handedly destroying this forum with lies and general unwillingness to be honest and non inflammatory with other members, but yet the desire in their head to be accepted as some self made messiah was the ultimate end game... I was right. These guys are like a case of herpies. They go away, then resurface and sometimes the flare up is painful and long lasting and quite contagious..
Like BKM said how can someone be banned multiple times, and have basic forum priveledge revoked, still have the audacity to log back on? Its crazy...He has no edit button so when and if lies get exposed, he can not go back and undo his bullshit...
" the local copy and paste crew" was a brilliant nickname for these bozos....

I mean who the trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro in the world actualy has to type they were a alleged factory mechanic of one of the worst reliable models of 3 wheelers after every trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro post...Not even our resident former honda factory racer, with god as his copilot, that actually has credentials and proof to back up his past, needs to bask in that level of arrogance
Quite frankly I went insane as a moderator trying to deal with this nonsense and I still cannot pin who is more efd up...Barnett and his persistance to obtain some out of world status, or the ownership for letting this stuff go on as long as it has...Now removed, I kinda get enjoyment out of watching this trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro anymore. Your batshit crazy if you think he will address these facts of his time here..he wont...
He does lead the forum in dislikes, with his chronies in close 2nd, has started multiple forum accounts, not just aramid, and has been banned from multiple musclecar forums and here, yet he still has a few scrotum polishers hanging from his skiveys...Their ignorane will be their own problems..Even if some revelation comes to fruition this guy was the inventor of the modern wheel or gasoline, the accomplishment will never shine through the mountains of bullshit that have been piled on.
Hey hey now, kawasaki 'were' good machines back in the day

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[Aulbaugh]

Barnett will not answer to this. He has never answered to any questions about his claimed legitamcy.
He acts like people obsess over him, when he clearly can not understand the fact, the people are actually obsessed with truth and honesty, and taking out the lies and bullshit.

My wife and I moderated this sight for over 10 years, we constantly ran IP checks on Barnett and some of his chronies. Not only did they start multiple accounts to circumvent bans, but they lied about the locations..Forum ownership ho-hummed about how to handle this nonsense and never did anything about...A few years back, I made the statement that these guys were single handedly destroying this forum with lies and general unwillingness to be honest and non inflammatory with other members, but yet the desire in their head to be accepted as some self made messiah was the ultimate end game... I was right. These guys are like a case of herpies. They go away, then resurface and sometimes the flare up is painful and long lasting and quite contagious..
Like BKM said how can someone be banned multiple times, and have basic forum priveledge revoked, still have the audacity to log back on? Its crazy...He has no edit button so when and if lies get exposed, he can not go back and undo his bullshit...
" the local copy and paste crew" was a brilliant nickname for these bozos....

I mean who the trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro in the world actualy has to type they were a alleged factory mechanic of one of the worst reliable models of 3 wheelers after every trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro post...Not even our resident former honda factory racer, with god as his copilot, that actually has credentials and proof to back up his past, needs to bask in that level of arrogance
Quite frankly I went insane as a moderator trying to deal with this nonsense and I still cannot pin who is more efd up...Barnett and his persistance to obtain some out of world status, or the ownership for letting this stuff go on as long as it has...Now removed, I kinda get enjoyment out of watching this trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro anymore. Your batshit crazy if you think he will address these facts of his time here..he wont...
He does lead the forum in dislikes, with his chronies in close 2nd, has started multiple forum accounts, not just aramid, and has been banned from multiple musclecar forums and here, yet he still has a few scrotum polishers hanging from his skiveys...Their ignorane will be their own problems..Even if some revelation comes to fruition this guy was the inventor of the modern wheel or gasoline, the accomplishment will never shine through the mountains of bullshit that have been piled on.


I am ashamed of myself, I can't help it but be attracted to this thread. Too bad things have to be like this.

[barnett468]

I am ashamed of myself, I can't help it but be attracted to this thread. Too bad things have to be like this.

Just curious as to what you mean by "Too bad things have to be like this.".


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[sledcrazyinCT]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=237681&stc=1http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=237682&stc=1
Ok so maybe this thread can come back around:wondering :lol:

[Aulbaugh]

Just curious as to what you mean by "Too bad things have to be like this.".


PREVIOUS KAWASAKI INTERNATIONAL R & D PROJECT ENGINEER AND ATV DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR

I just mean that I hate to see members mad at one another. Life is too short to be mad.

[barnett468]

I just mean that I hate to see members mad at one another. Life is too short to be mad.

Thanks for the reply . In my experience, some people simply like to breed hatred and contempt under the false guise of "righteousness" with lies and misinformation which is why there is a Ku Klux Klan and was a Hitler and the Spanish Inquisitions and the Romans feeding the Christians to the Lions and why they killed Jesus etc.


Below is a recent thread by Louis Mielke and a portion of his post. I was not posting on the site for 6 months, therefore, it is highly unlikely he was referring to me .

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/181270-I-ve-been-away


I haven't really been on the forum since TF16. I've hovered my mouse over the bookmark on my browser and actively said to myself, "nah I don't want to even be aware of the drama." I've ignored my moderator duties and pretty much the entire forum. I have been burnt out on this forum. I'm burnt out on the nonsense that constantly needs moderated. There's been stuff on this forum that's left me with that 'sick in the stomach' kind of stress and I haven't had it since TF16. I don't really want that feeling over this forum. It's not worth it.


Below is part of a post I made on that thread and Mrs. Mosh's reply to my post.


You are correct . I would definitely head this ship in a different direction by making it a far more peaceful and "Family oriented." place . I am on a couple other very large forums and none of them have the negative tone/atmosphere that some create here, therefore, if those forums can be fun and friendly, there is no reason in the World that this one can't also, all it requires is the desire of the owner of the forum.


Barnett, it use to be fun and family oriented site. Those days are long gone. It would be great if this place could get back to that, but I don't see it happening. Too much ego and pride involved.


Below is the link to a recent thread that got so horrendously vile and offtrack that it caused the op to leave this site and I was NOT involved . In fact, I tried to get it back on track and was thanked by several members for doing so, yet there are a couple people here that outright lie about me in their feeble and vain attempts to discredit me and blame me for all the sites problems simply to serve ther own personal agenda . If your gullible enough to believe that than may God or somebody help you with your poor decision making because you may be heading towards a big fall.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/181144-Dyno-tuned-my-350x?highlight=dyno



Also, don't be surprised if you see someone melodramatically bloviate in another useless but oddly entertaining reply regarding this post. http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/thumbsup.gif




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[Caminofeld]

Um…guys…wasn't this thread about the next POTUS?

Anybody think the recount efforts will change anything?

Anybody want to do away with the Electoral College?

Anybody not giving a s*** if California becomes it's own country and exits the US?

[Scootertrash]

I myself am kind of amazed at the fact that some people have some where gotten the idea that when you bring a large group of people together who share the same hobby that somehow all of their other differences are supposed to disappear. Jeebus Cripes the group here can't even agree on which oil is best, which air cleaner to use, or whether Chinese clone carbs off of ebay are a worthy purchase.

I think calling out liars, bullsh!tters, and trollls is a good thing, not a bad one. Those types are what really drag a forum down. Disagreements, disputes, differences of opinions are all normal activities in every day life. Why should it be different here? Particularly in an "Open Forum".

Should we let members who dispense bad, incorrect or errant info get a free pass and not call them out on it? Should we let charlatans, sheisters, a-holes and d-bags run amok and unchecked so we can pretend that everybody plays nicely together? I think not.

And guess what? There's a solution for those who don't like what someone posts or when a couple of members have a disagreement: Don't read the threads or posts or you can do like I do a lot of times, read the posts, shrug your shoulders, shake your head and think "What an f'n loser" or "heh, what a doosh".

There are a couple generations of younger people who have been taught that everybody needs to get along and be harmonious, and blah, blah, blah. Ya know what? They lied to you.It was all bulls!t. People don't all think the same. They don't always agree. They don't always calmly sit down, have a nice quiet discussion, agree to disagree, hug, have a coke and a smile and go home. That's not the way it happens, sorry to be the one to break the news.

The evidence is right here on this site: not everybody is treated equally when it come to time outs. I got a time out a bit ago and all I was trying to do was diffuse the tension in the thread with a little comedy relief and I got to sit in the corner for 3 days or so. Apparently not everybody's sense of humor is the same either. Whoda thunk it?

I've watched a member or 2 here insult the females of a couple of members families, no time out. So there ya go, life's not fair.

Here's the other side of the coin: See by my username where it says "Protecting Our Community". Around 3 years ago we had a "member" who never really posted anywhere but in the ATV classifieds. All of his posts directed people to his ebay auctions. I called him on it a couple times and just got either a snide comment or no response at all. The no response was his way of keeping a low profile because of what he was doing. What might that have been you ask?

Well, I tracked his auctions on ebay for a 2-3 months because I had a feeling about what he was up to. The auctions would end, many times with a winning bidder and the prices were way out of line (high bucks) compared to what others were selling for. Over the period that I watched his auctions it was always the same 2 bidders that were winning his auctions, only to have the auctions restarted a week or 2 later: Same pics, same description, and lo and behold the same winning bidders bidding AGAIN! He was trying to rip off members with shill bidding on his items, probably hoping for newbs who didn't know better.

I posted my findings here with all my evidence and he got sh!tcanned.

Should I have blown it off or was I right to investigate my suspicions and out a sh!tbag?

No back to our regularly scheduled thread:

Election recount? Somebody needs to listen to her own words:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=resuyPt4-Ds

[Scootertrash]

Um…guys…wasn't this thread about the next POTUS?

Anybody think the recount efforts will change anything?

Anybody want to do away with the Electoral College?

Anybody not giving a s*** if California becomes it's own country and exits the US?


No, the recount efforts won't change Jack Squat.

No, the electoral college needs to stay. Do you fully understand how the EC works? Voter ID needs to be instituted. In Detroit they couldn't rectify all the vote made with eligible voters, i.e. more votes than there were registered voters. (IIRC)

Commiefornia can break off in the next earthquake and become an island prison. No offense to those Californians who are NOT leftist scumbags.

[Scootertrash]

Start a new thread to pat yourself on the back. This thread is for disparaging presidential candidates and fake election results to distract us from the real goings on in the world while aliens land.

[barnett468]

Um…guys…wasn't this thread about the next POTUS?

Anybody think the recount efforts will change anything?

Anybody want to do away with the Electoral College?

Anybody not giving a s*** if California becomes it's own country and exits the US?


1. I don't know because I started on page 31.

2. No because I don't think these people can count anyway . "Can you please verify if this chad is dangling or not?"

3. The government has a college...hard to believe with all the ignorant crap a lot of the politicians say.

4. No, and I think I live in California but I will have to have MOSH ping my IP address to be sure.


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[Aulbaugh]

I myself am kind of amazed at the fact that some people have some where gotten the idea that when you bring a large group of people together who share the same hobby that somehow all of their other differences are supposed to disappear. Jeebus Cripes the group here can't even agree on which oil is best, which air cleaner to use, or whether Chinese clone carbs off of ebay are a worthy purchase.

I think calling out liars, bullsh!tters, and trollls is a good thing, not a bad one. Those types are what really drag a forum down. Disagreements, disputes, differences of opinions are all normal activities in every day life. Why should it be different here? Particularly in an "Open Forum".

Should we let members who dispense bad, incorrect or errant info get a free pass and not call them out on it? Should we let charlatans, sheisters, a-holes and d-bags run amok and unchecked so we can pretend that everybody plays nicely together? I think not.

I couldn't agree more.


And guess what? There's a solution for those who don't like what someone posts or when a couple of members have a disagreement: Don't read the threads or posts or you can do like I do a lot of times, read the posts, shrug your shoulders, shake your head and think "What an f'n loser" or "heh, what a doosh".

There are a couple generations of younger people who have been taught that everybody needs to get along and be harmonious, and blah, blah, blah. Ya know what? They lied to you.It was all bulls!t. People don't all think the same. They don't always agree. They don't always calmly sit down, have a nice quiet discussion, agree to disagree, hug, have a coke and a smile and go home. That's not the way it happens, sorry to be the one to break the news.

Your g0d damm right on that one. Guys now days can find out all the information they want about a person just from their computer. It seems you got to be careful cause you never know what nutbag is on the other end. You answer the doorbell for the ups driver and ol dude from the forum is on your front porch putting a bullet in your head. F*cking scary times we live in fellas.






Here's the other side of the coin: See by my username where it says "Protecting Our Community". Around 3 years ago we had a "member" who never really posted anywhere but in the ATV classifieds. All of his posts directed people to his ebay auctions. I called him on it a couple times and just got either a snide comment or no response at all. The no response was his way of keeping a low profile because of what he was doing. What might that have been you ask?

Well, I tracked his auctions on ebay for a 2-3 months because I had a feeling about what he was up to. The auctions would end, many times with a winning bidder and the prices were way out of line (high bucks) compared to what others were selling for. Over the period that I watched his auctions it was always the same 2 bidders that were winning his auctions, only to have the auctions restarted a week or 2 later: Same pics, same description, and lo and behold the same winning bidders bidding AGAIN! He was trying to rip off members with shill bidding on his items, probably hoping for newbs who didn't know better.

I posted my findings here with all my evidence and he got sh!tcanned.

Should I have blown it off or was I right to investigate my suspicions and out a sh!tbag?

Great work! That kinda stuff should never be allowed.

[knappyfeet]

I've been contemplating moving to Bullhead City.....

I could sell my dump for 600K and get this on the river for 380K. A hop, skip and a jump away from Laughlin and all the cheap buffets I can eat.

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Then just bring the RV to Mission Bay for the summer and hang around like the homeless.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Glamy come to the East coast the Vacation State has voted for recreational reefer and it won't cost a fortune to relocate. Lots of two stroke snowmobiles to burn up 12,000 miles of groomed trails Ma nature willing.....plus just a hop skip and a jump to Canada for cheap Rx

[Caminofeld]

For once i have to agree ........ Camino you and your $25.00 an hour could`nt qualify for an apartment here ! It`s overrated $2K+ a month ....and i`ve often thought maybe i should leave .....but i`m afraid .....because i know IT`S GONNA SUCK anywhere else ! Things might get better.........if Trump rounds up all the little bean boys that don`t belong here maybe the freeways won`t be crowded with the cars they stole from us ! Oh and i love dick tans on Christmas day ! You tell me .....where should i go that doesn't suck ! Pacific NW. ?..........take your plaid flannel shirts........and your Mario Batali ......and grow some mold in your lungs ....don`t come to Ca. .....it sucks here ! Oh i remember he`s an RN. those get $150K -insurance $75K mediocrity ......it keeps snowing ha ha ha and snowing ha ha .......and snowing ha ! Hillary got wiff of dat muslim yellow fin croaker .....and hers don`t feels so good !

Dude, I know. My little sis lives in SF and her little Condo is 4k/mo. Just like NYC it's an entirely different economy. Sounds great when you take a job for 200k, but then when you get out there everything is overpriced and crowded…not to mention some of the snobbiest narcissistic hipsters I have ever met (spent a little while bouncing around out there BITD). You're cool until you disagree with the groupthink…then you're cast out of the "in-crowd". It's like they preach this uber-liberal ideology yet are some of the most judgmental and intolerant people I have ever met. Don't get me wrong, I still had a blast and plan on taking the fam for a few weeks this coming year.

I've travelled pretty much everywhere and have come to the conclusion that I get along better with people who put in the extra work to live in rural areas. Their attitude and mindset are usually in line with mine so we find much common ground. I love nature, fresh air, peace, and quiet…not for everybody, but it's in my blood…and you can still get a decent chunk of land for cheap depending on where you move...

As for moving, if the dunes are as awesome as everyone says and you have easy access why leave? Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little.

[Caminofeld]

Glamy come to the East coast the Vacation State has voted for recreational reefer and it won't cost a fortune to relocate. Lots of two stroke snowmobiles to burn up 12,000 miles of groomed trails Ma nature willing.....plus just a hop skip and a jump to Canada for cheap Rx

I second that. I'd love to hang out and ride sometime!

[Caminofeld]

Scoots, I definitely agree with keeping the EC. It took me awhile to fully understand, but it balances the State's power in voting…so despite CA casting more votes than almost 40 of the other states combined they are equal in power to the other 49.

[sledcrazyinCT]

What happened to the best guy wins?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fv_EGd0nIc&feature=youtu.be
One of the great things about America's democracy. Is. We have a vigorous. Sometimes bitter. Political contests. And when it's done. Historically. Regardless of party. Person who loses the election. Congratulates the winner reaffirms our democracy. And we move full. That's our democracy survives because. We recognize that. There's something more important than any individual campaign and that is making sure that the integrity. And trust in our institutions. Sustains itself because democracy by definition works by consent. By force. I have never seen. In my lifetime. Or modern political history. Any presidential candidate. Trying to discredit. The elections. And the election process. Before it votes have even taken place. It's unprecedented. And it happens to be based on no facts. Every expert. Regardless of political party. Regardless of ideology conservative or liberal. Who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will Sawyer. Instances of significant voter fraud or are. Not to be found. That. Keep in mind elections are run by state and local officials which means that. There are places like Florida for example where you got a Republican governor. Who's a Republican appointees are going to be running. And monitoring a whole bunch of these elections it's the notion that somehow there's mr. trump loses Florida it's because. Those. People that you have to watch out for that is. Both irresponsible. And by the way. Doesn't really show the cover. Leadership and toughness that you want out were present. He's our want him before the games are known. If if whenever things are going badly for him and you lose your star blame on somebody else. Then you don't have what it takes to be amazed. Is a lot of times when things don't go forward. Or my way. That's okay you fight through it you work through it. You try to accomplish your goals. But but the larger point though I want emphasizes. Is that. There is no serious. Person out there who would suggest somehow that. You could even you could even rig. America's elections. In part because they're so decentralized. And the numbers of votes involved there's no evidence that that has happened in the past or event. There are instances in which that will happen this. And so. I don't buy mr. trump to stop whining and go try to make its case to get votes. And if he got the most votes then. It would be. My expectation of Hillary Clinton. To operate gracious concession speech and pledged to work with him in order to make sure that. The American people benefit from effective. And would be my job to welcome mr. trump to regardless of where he set about me. Or my differences with him on my opinions and escort him over to its capital in which there would be a peaceful transfer power. That's what Americans do. That's why America is already great. One way or. Weakening America made him less great. Is if you start betraying. Those basic American traditions. That have been bipartisan. And have helped to hold together this democracy now for. Well over two centuries.

[barnett468]

My little sis lives in SF... ...some of the snobbiest narcissistic hipsters I have ever met... You're cool until you disagree with the groupthink…then you're cast out of the "in-crowd". It's like they preach this uber-liberal ideology yet are some of the most judgmental and intolerant people I have ever met.


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[Scootertrash]

What happened to the best guy wins?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fv_EGd0nIc&feature=youtu.be
One of the great things about America's democracy. Is. We have a vigorous. Sometimes bitter. Political contests. And when it's done. Historically. Regardless of party. Person who loses the election. Congratulates the winner reaffirms our democracy. And we move full. That's our democracy survives because. We recognize that. There's something more important than any individual campaign and that is making sure that the integrity. And trust in our institutions. Sustains itself because democracy by definition works by consent. By force. I have never seen. In my lifetime. Or modern political history. Any presidential candidate. Trying to discredit. The elections. And the election process. Before it votes have even taken place. It's unprecedented. And it happens to be based on no facts. Every expert. Regardless of political party. Regardless of ideology conservative or liberal. Who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will Sawyer. Instances of significant voter fraud or are. Not to be found. That. Keep in mind elections are run by state and local officials which means that. There are places like Florida for example where you got a Republican governor. Who's a Republican appointees are going to be running. And monitoring a whole bunch of these elections it's the notion that somehow there's mr. trump loses Florida it's because. Those. People that you have to watch out for that is. Both irresponsible. And by the way. Doesn't really show the cover. Leadership and toughness that you want out were present. He's our want him before the games are known. If if whenever things are going badly for him and you lose your star blame on somebody else. Then you don't have what it takes to be amazed. Is a lot of times when things don't go forward. Or my way. That's okay you fight through it you work through it. You try to accomplish your goals. But but the larger point though I want emphasizes. Is that. There is no serious. Person out there who would suggest somehow that. You could even you could even rig. America's elections. In part because they're so decentralized. And the numbers of votes involved there's no evidence that that has happened in the past or event. There are instances in which that will happen this. And so. I don't buy mr. trump to stop whining and go try to make its case to get votes. And if he got the most votes then. It would be. My expectation of Hillary Clinton. To operate gracious concession speech and pledged to work with him in order to make sure that. The American people benefit from effective. And would be my job to welcome mr. trump to regardless of where he set about me. Or my differences with him on my opinions and escort him over to its capital in which there would be a peaceful transfer power. That's what Americans do. That's why America is already great. One way or. Weakening America made him less great. Is if you start betraying. Those basic American traditions. That have been bipartisan. And have helped to hold together this democracy now for. Well over two centuries.

Hole carp! Talk about having your period!

The USA is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.

[Scootertrash]

Liberal tears are sweet nectar:

This ladies and gentlemen, is what you get after decades of "Everybody gets a trophy" and "You're a special little flower and should be given whatever you want"

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And this is what others think about your selfish, whiny little tantrums when you don't get your way:

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[sledcrazyinCT]

Somebody spent sometime coming up with this.......


Twas the Night Before Inauguration!

Twas the night before Inauguration, and up in the tower,
The Donald reflected on his newfound power.
The conservative masses had come out in force,
And delivered a victory that would chart a new course.

The snowflakes were shell-shocked with tears in their eyes,
The media lied to them . . . What a surprise.
They had been promised a Hillary win,
But the criminal Clinton took one on the chin.

And though from all corners celebrities flew,
They made no impression, for they hadn’t a clue.
They talked about climate, racism, and such,
And they made up good stories . . . But didn’t know much.

The fake news and ignorance came at a cost,
And they can’t understand all the reasons they lost.
They blame it on Comey and Bernie and Vlad,
But fail to acknowledge the one that was bad.

Yes, Hillary Clinton, in many ways flawed,
Was her own biggest hurdle toward getting the nod.
The campaign exposed her corruptness and greed,
And her speeches were punch-less as ten dollar weed.

So out in the streets there arose such a clatter,
It was Soros-paid protestors and Black Lives Matter.
With cities to pillage and windows to smash,
They knew not the issues, but needed the cash.

Eight years of Obama had given them cause,
To expect a replacement of their Santa Claus.
But soon the protestors will feel the pain,
When the wheels fall off of the old gravy train.

And now all the snowflakes are riddled with fear,
Upset and offended by things that they’ll hear.
The cocoa and crayons will help for a while,
But fact-based opinions will soon cramp their style.

I originally supported, and voted, for Cruz,
In the end, I would vote for whoever they choose.
He wasn’t my first choice, but soon I would cede,
The one they call Trump is the one that we need.

I saw him on TV in front of a crowd,
He spoke about veterans, it made me feel proud.
He spoke about energy, safety, and jobs,
Taking this country back from the Washington snobs.

He was dressed in Armani, all tailored and neat,
And the Brunos he wore made the outfit complete.
For a man of his vintage, he seemed rather fit,
And he looked presidential, I have to admit.

His eyes glowed like embers, his smile was the best,
And his hair was the color of my old hunting vest.
His love for this country was on full display,
And his actions spoke louder than his words could say.

He thanked all his voters, and before he was gone,
Saved thousands of jobs while Obama looked on.
The fate of this country left nothing to chance,
So, he filled out his cabinet weeks in advance.

The men he had chosen were of the same mind,
Let’s set the bar high, and not lead from behind.
He picked up his phone as he rose from his seat,
With a flick of his finger, he sent out this tweet;

“Now Mattis!, now Kelly!’ now Sessions! And Pruitt!
On Perry! On Flynn, You’re the ones who can do it.
Start lifting restrictions and building the wall,
Now dash away! Dash away! Dash away all!”;

The roar of his audience rose from the stands,
He kissed all their babies and shook all their hands.
He answered their questions and calmed all their fears,
They knew it would be a fantastic four years.
Then he jumped in his limo, and off to his jet,
A fellow that Liberals won’t soon forget.
He sent one more tweet as the evening expired;
“Happy Inauguration to all,
AND OBAMA – YOU’RE FIRED!”

[Hurley250R]

Did anyone see this little punk last night? Perfect example of why we need change in America. His parents are failures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9t4w6Diy5s

[sledcrazyinCT]

Did anyone see this little punk last night? Perfect example of why we need change in America. His parents are failures.


And he is the big hero and most popular trending on twitter:crazy:

[JayBone]

It's a Great Day 3ww!!!!!

[knappyfeet]

Did anyone see this little punk last night? Perfect example of why we need change in America. His parents are failures.

Did you see him walk away at the end of the video?

These punk little white folks are just trying to be cool like the black kids.

[Scootertrash]

Did anyone see this little punk last night? Perfect example of why we need change in America. His parents are failures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9t4w6Diy5s

He must be a racist little skinhead, since Obama was still president when he did this.

[ironchop]

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[Scootertrash]

Rumors are circulating that this was spotted at the D.C. women's protest yesterday:

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From Ace of Spades blog:
"Just occurred to me that Trump has gotten more fat women walking in one day than Michelle Obama did in eight years"

[Scootertrash]

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[Hurley250R]

[QUOTE=El Camexican;1441604]The dip sh*t kid turned out to be none other than Drew Carey's son :lol:



The kid that lit the fire was Drew Carey's kid?

[Hurley250R]

That's freaking hilarious! Not surprised really... Normally I wouldnt believe anything written by the huffington post but this seems legit hahaha. Thanks for sharing!

[bkm]

WTF does this mean for tequila? I heard a proposal to tax Western Union type money transfers to Mexico 20%. That way the illegals sending money back home will be taxed.

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[Scootertrash]

What about if we capture the ones coming over illegally, and put them in a fenced in camp. We give them food, water, and child care for the younguns. No paychecks, no government welfare, nothing but a nice clean orderly place to live, eat, and shower. In exchange they provide the labor to build the fence.

Then when the fence is done, we escort them, and any other illegals with criminal records or those who have committed a crime, to the south side of the fence and close and lock the gate.

Seems like a good start to me.

[ironchop]

I don't know WTF that means, but burritos and weed are going up 20% soon.

Wrong. We now get our weed from Colorado. And NorCal.

#makingcannabisgreatagain

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[Caminofeld]

Again a situation with no good answers…

How do I weigh my beliefs as a Christian against my wishes for the safety of my family? It's a dilemma that I've been racking my brain over today.

Americans are generally living better due to the affordability of Chinese items from Harbor Freight and Walmart, so what does that mean for us little guys when the cost of everyday items goes up? It's like raising taxes without raising taxes. Again, how do I weigh this against my wish for more jobs in my Country?

In my eyes whether or not climate change is real is somewhat irrelevant in the here and now. What I want is clean air to breathe and not to live in a toxic waste dump. Although sometimes misguided, I really feel that clean energy is the way to go. If kept American, it will also create jobs.

It's all happening so fast I can't wrap my head around it to have an informed opinion (nor would it matter anyway).

Is this the Blitzkrieg tactic?

Although I revel in seeing liberal tears (I have the LT gun oil too:), there are some things he's doing that I'm questioning…then again, I felt the same way about BHO, Bush Jr, and Clinton too and they didn't quite kill us (despite their best efforts)...

Confusing times, my friends…

[Scootertrash]

Anybody want to take a guess at how much financial aid the U.S. provides to Mexico?

[ironchop]

1) Walls won't keep out drugs. Heroin is America's new best friend so you'd have to build another wall across the Pacific ocean.

2) I don't believe in punishing Mexico because Hondurans, Guatemalans, and Salvadoran folks snuck into their country in order to sneak into ours. Most Latinos I know or have ever employed were not Mexican.

3) You also can't keep an unguarded border. Wall or not, it needs better patrolled. All warm and fuzzy aside, you just can't realistically allow unchecked illegal immigration just like you can't keep letting people on the boat or into the club without a disaster soon to follow. Writing folks checks to 'help them' while offering amnesty, driver licenses, and free stuff is anything but a deterrent to others thinking of sneaking in as well. I can't believe I even had to point that out but it's like progressives won't quit trying the "deterrent them with kindness and free stuff" approach.

12) walls just make for bad neighbors

462) I hate NAFTA. I personally witnessed and experienced the aftermath of that Liberal greasing of the Big Bizness cabal at the expense of good American jobs. Machining/ Manufacturing took huge hits in good paying jobs so that fake Liberals can call people a racist on one hand and then exploit the cheap labor, resources, and land of another race of people on the other. Seriously these people are all the same. NAFTA killed hundreds of thousands of jobs and allowed the exploitation of Latin and Asian labor and resources by former American based manufacturing and agriculture companies....And history repeats itself. I never understood why Leftist don't see how racist that is.

₽) walls are fruitless. Security is a good thing though. I would increase my border force first as I'm way more concerned about terrorists than I am about people looking for a job.

Free hugs and welfare is not good foreign policy either.

I live in a federally funded sanctuary city (former, lol). Liberals pocket the money, and drop these refugees and immigrants off into black neighborhoods and school systems far from their own and offer them free stuff so that their little social experiment can have all the appearances of a successful policy...."These poor brown and black folks are so disadvantaged so they need the help of virtuous white people to help them survive and teach them skills and tools".....I'm not sure whether that's just terribly demeaning, overtly patronizing, racist as $#@&, or all three...I don't see it as being any different or less denigrating than xenophobia.

156) It's not racist or xenophobic to require legal immigration. People who say that it is are just terrible at winning political debates and revel in cognitive dissonance
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[knappyfeet]

I’m disappointed in Trump today. I’ve always thought the US border need a lot more attention, maybe even a wall, but today it became crystal clear to me that Trump’s egomaniacal needs will be placed well ahead of America’s in the coming years as it relates to the border and everything else he touches.

Trump is portrayed as a fool...an idiot....egomaniacal........but the more he proceeds the more he seems ingenious.

I never liked his seeming aggressive approach to Mexico. I always felt our border neighbors should be our closest neighbors and asking of another country to "pay for a border wall" was over the top. But somehow that montra stuck and here we are. With that said.......... illegal immigration cost U.S. taxpayers billions and billions of dollars in all aspects of life. I can see Mexico's interest of no wall ......but what about the American tax payer and citizen? And what's the return for the enormous cost of illegal immigration for the U.S.? A warm fuzzy feeling?

I'm not sure.......but this talk of tariffs could be a small part of a grander picture of re-setting America's global position.

[fabiodriven]

Walls don't only keep people out.

[bkm]

Tequila? Tequila stay here! No more Tequila for you!

Buyers remorse just set in really hard. First your text earlier today about how one of our favorite posters here might possibly be Trump, and now this. FML

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[sledcrazyinCT]

Nico Money has been allocated since 2006 to bolster our southern border.....so a decade later Trump is only implementing what was put in place three administrations earlier. Even if it is paid in full by American tax dollars and we do not get a 'check' from Mexico for once tax payers get something we have asked of our elected officials. Besides you mentioned 50,000,000 to build the wall not sure where your numbers were sourced but Trump is saying 12 tgo 15 billion and critics are saying it will cost closer to 25 Billion so again not sure your source?

I wanted to question you on a previous comment about land owners with property on both sides of the border, but then you clarified it later that only Mexican can own land in Mexico.... so really the ranchers you speak of are only Mexican's who own land in Texas......oh well they can figure it out regarding Trump's intentions.

The wall should incorporate a string of prison cells that any trespasser who get caught crossing the border is thrown the in a cell with a window facing south to tell give others who think they can come to America illegally it sucks to be locked up -don't risk it entering illegally.

Final point the money for the wall is chump change considering the tangible end result say compared to the F35 aircraft that Trump also has been vocal about.....

The program is the most expensive military weapons system in history, and has been much criticized inside and outside government, in the U.S. and in allied countries.[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#cite_note-adamciralsky-17) Critics argue that the plane is "plagued with design flaws," with many blaming the procurement process in which Lockheed was allowed "to design, test, and produce the F-35 all at the same time, instead of… [identifying and fixing] defects before firing up its production line."[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#cite_note-adamciralsky-17) By 2014, the program was "$163 billion over budget [and] seven years behind schedule."[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#cite_note-18) Critics also contend that the program's high sunk costs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs) and political momentum make it "too big to kill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_big_to_fail)."[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#cite_note-19)

[sledcrazyinCT]

I do agree that bullets are cheaper then laying bricks but you know the majority that voted for Crooked Clinton would boo hoo that concept even if it saved them dough and didn't disrupt nature and wildlife on the border

[sledcrazyinCT]

No problems here with paying to secure the border, bet you will get a lot of volunteers signing up too.....Sorry I misunderstood your posts, I am certainly the misinformed one regarding land ownership by foreigners in Mexico. I am basing my info on what my wife has told me since it is her dream to move to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico in retirement:wondering

Her father started travelling to Mexico in 1950 and she spent every summer south of the border until age 17 or so......I visited Puerto Vallarta once before we got married and I do not see what is so great about it other then warm climate and very nice people generally....unfortunately Americans are viewed as a millionaire by the locals when you go on vacation. More then once the locals thought they were gonna scam us but once she starts a conversation with them they would back off and go after another clueless gringo

So you saying waterfront or other choice real estate is off limits to foreigners without a a native Mexican co-owner? That could have been her explanation to me that can't own waterfront maybe...I was not really paying attention anyway because the only place named Mexico I would consider to move to in retirement is a town in Maine with a population under 3000 and average snowfall is 80 inches a year!

[sledcrazyinCT]

People need to remember take Trump seriously not literally.....no one with a brain expects MEXICO to cut a check for this investment in the border wall

[ironchop]

Sledcrazy is right....These border implementations were definitely on the books since the 1986? Reagan Amnesty. The law stated that 3 million plus illegals (the actual number was much higher) would get a path to citizenship while being immune to ICE prosecution in the mean time. Everyone got the amnesty but the border patrol beefing and better fences and immigration courts to speed up deports hearings went largely ignored and the money for it disappeared......The amnesty happened but nothing else.

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[ironchop]

Truth is that both parties are pro-immigration whether they state it out loud or not and Republican voters finally figured that out which is how Trump got elected. They got tired of hearing their party bosses blather on about illegals but then turn and give them amnesty (something Democrats like to parrot when it was only ever Republican party members who actually granted any amnesty ever to anyone latino from the southern borderlands.....The irony of that is lost on Liberals)

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[ironchop]

Well Nico.....All of those you mentioned except the Voting ID are all already required, some even by law....It's the law for white folks and American black folks but they have been ignoring those requirements and looking the other way for "refugees" and "immigrants" because "equality and pity" for a long time now.

This is the reason that most Conservatives cried "enforce existing laws" rather than "just ban everyone and build a giant wall"......Something lefties and Trump both invented on the cuff in 2015 but the official and majority Conservative voter's view is that enforcing existing laws on immigration and gun control both are where it's at. No need to be drastic if we only actually enforce immigration law and border security which we have not done or done sporadically at best for a few decades now.

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[sledcrazyinCT]

Maybe just maybe this is how Trump will get Mexico to build a wall on it's Southern border? Mexico and the USA have both agreed that increased security on Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala will help with the flow of migrants.

[sledcrazyinCT]

All of those you mentioned except the Voting ID are all already required,

Yes and since you need an ID for just about anything else in the country I would welcome free of charge voter ID cards considering we all pay for it somehow. The argument that mandatory voter ID's will only hinder poor people's ability to vote is total BS.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Thought I read the Obama family is vacationing on Necker's Island.....private island within British Virgin Islands

[ironchop]

Enough about the new guy, what's last guy up to these days?

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He bought a house in a 'gentrified' DC neighborhood. He's going to be a local thorn-in-the-side for the foreseeable future.

The irony of that is that he used to 'community organize' about such things as 'gentrification of neighborhoods' back when he was a budding Communist before he became a Progressive (Communist dressed as a Democrat)

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[Scootertrash]

Making the changes this country needs is going to hurt a little for everyone eventually.

People b!tch when politicians don't do what they promise, now they're b!tch!ng when Trump is doing what he promised. Can't win either way. I say Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!

[Scootertrash]

Apologies accepted:

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[knappyfeet]

Bump......

Got off early today and just read this front to back.

It was nice to read where our thoughts were at the time and where they are now. Did all his promises come true? My Trumpy Bear hasn't arrived yet......I'm getting worried.

[tripledog]

If Bausch and Lomb interfered with the election to help the current administration win, would that be considered an optical collusion?

[El Camexican]

That that Suckaberg and Faceplant may have unwittingly helped Trump win makes my sides hurt. Poor Mark, I wonder how busy he is tonight unfriending people?

"Don't believe everything you read" (so the saying goes)

[plastikosmd]

I was only a casual NFL watcher. (Sunday night before bed while surfing the web. )
I see more diesel brothers, nat geo and love it or list it in the future for me

[El Camexican]

Time to start watching hockey Glamy, the brothers in the NHL are still about the sport.

I like your cute little sample walls. Do you think Trump will hire real Mexican's to test them, or will he use homegrown Chicano brand vatos to do the climb, cut and tunnel tests? Will they be tall enough to stop an NK nuke? If it ain't Chapo profit it ain't sh*t.

[sledcrazyinCT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuphcpY5a5A

[sledcrazyinCT]

Since this thread fell off, and Bernie threw his hat in the ring again who will come out as DEM nominee? Who will primary against DJT?

Personally I think Bernie would be making a mistake if he doesn't run as Independent, as he has his entire time as VT Senator. DNC and Hillary porked him last round, and the old adage is fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.
Fact is many Dems blame him as the spoiler for their golden girl losing, and it is evident they will not support him just like they didn't in 2016.

Bernie has a lot of followers and managed to raise 6 million dollars the first day he announced his campaign. Bernie wants to change America, he should try by seeing if the USA will finally vote an Independent into office.....Disrupt the two party system.

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[ironchop]

Cardi B will be your next president

Because many Americans really are that f**kin stupid

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[El Camexican]

Cardi B will be your next president

Because many Americans really are that f**kin stupid

Grab a map, find Merica, look up, down, there's stupid all around.

[coolpool]

Bingo El Cam, our current terrorist loving fail needs to go....and fast! It's an interesting wold we live in currently WRT political climates.

[tripledog]

Cardi B will be your next president

Because many Americans really are that f**kin stupid

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As if. Like, the really smart Americans will, like, totally vote for Ariana Grande.

[ironchop]

As if. Like, the really smart Americans will, like, totally vote for Ariana Grande.She IS totes adorbs

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[Scootertrash]

She IS totes adorbs

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Huh?

Sorry, but my understanding of gibberish is a little rusty :wondering

[barnett468]

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[El Camexican]

Bingo El Cam, our current terrorist loving fail needs to go....and fast! It's an interesting wold we live in currently WRT political climates.

You might find it hard to believe, but our guy down here scares me a lot more than yours does up there. I’d take Agent Orange over either of them.

[Scootertrash]

Bernie has a lot of followers and managed to raise 6 million dollars the first day he announced his campaign. Bernie wants to change America, he should try by seeing if the USA will finally vote an Independent into office.....Disrupt the two party system.

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Trouble is, Ol' Bernie isn't an Independent, He calls himself a "Democratic Socialist". No matter what he calls himself, he's a left wing socialist scumbag, so if he were elected he wouldn't be "disrupting the two party system". He would be furthering the Socialist policies of the left, plain and simple.

It doesn't take a Free-College (one of Bernies ideals) graduate to look at his platform and see that he is a socialist:


"I think [democratic socialism] means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship, all of our people have health care; that as a right, all of our kids -- regardless of income -- have quality childcare; are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big-money interest," Sanders has said. "I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly. That's all it means."

Not one single thing in the above quote is a "Right".

People don't have a "right" to be provided healthcare. Not for what some bureaucrat decides is a "fair price" let alone for free. "Fair price" is defined as "We'll make others pay more so you can have it cheaper or for free." Obamacare should have taught us that.

People don't have a right to have someone else watch over their crotch fruit because they couldn't afford a kid in the first place, let alone 4, all from different "baby daddies", and they couldn't keep their legs closed.

People don't have a right to a cheap or free college education How do we achieve this college without deep debt?:

A: Colleges lower tuition. Right. Not happening because:

B:Neither Administration nor tenured professors (you guys know what "tenured" means right?) are going to accept lower salaries. SH!T man! A high quality Socialist indoctrination costs money you know!

This: we create a government in which it is not dominated by big-money interest Does not align with this: managed to raise 6 million dollars the first day he announced his campaign

That 6 mill (If that is actually true, which I doubt. Saying whatever you want doesn't make it true ) didn't come from disgruntled, pimple faced college kids nor entitled jag offs with EBT cards and other forms of welfare. so where do you think all that big-money interest money came from.:wondering

We are born with our "Rights". They're not doled out by politicians or the Government

[fabiodriven]

Glamy mentioned Jesse Ventura, and I actually have voted for him. I wrote his name on the ballot the only time I ever voted. That was probably 2008ish or something. I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have as a vice president.

[Scootertrash]

WTF are you talking about?

Pull your head outta your azz, put down your wake and bake pipe and reread my post.

Especially the last line. Jeezus f'n Christ

[ironchop]

U - G - L - Y............you and Goverment should decide what people are entitled to ? ...........and you would pay taxes to ensure the people have no "rights" to Healthcare or if the grades are good to affordable education ? .........the haves vs the have nots....... i think you`re the scumbag .........you`re the one that wants to tax SS ...........you`re the one that would tax pensions ............Quadruple taxation........what da fack have you done for me lately ? ...........build the the dumazz wall ? .......fortify the military for world domination ...........feed Isrealhell 5 billion a year ? ...........everything is geared to extract every last dollar until the day you die ..........and den tax on cremation...........Take that National Emergency and pound it where the sun don`t shine .......... you want feed big Pharma until they own you...........we`ve already tried it your way scooter .........it FAILS !

Remove the wall comment, and you just described the DNC to a T. What point are you even trying to make?

I'm really confused now....... You love nature and hate humans but you think that humans have a right to free healthcare? So you want to save the lives of billions of dumb sh!t humans so that they can piss you off everyday and ruin your environment?

Yes let's save everyone's life. This planet needs a billion more dumbasses living to be 110 and sh!thing on everything good in the world

Nobody has a "right" to get free anything that's going to cost anyone else money. This isn't safe space mamby pamby land where everyone gets a warm fuzzy hug for their sniffles and a lollipop for being a baby.

Edit to add: NOBODY decides who is entitled to a damn thing because NOBODY is entitled to a damn thing. You think that pension is yours? Wrong. The second you put YOUR money whether it was pension or SS into someone else's hands, you rammed a dick up your own ass. You trusted someone else with your money? FAIL. You'll get taxed on it because you were too gullible and trusted people that shouldn't be trusted. You hand your money to thieves, then you can't cry after the fact.

I know you didn't assume that they would stop stealing money out of the SS account after Reagan left office, did you?

Every state in the union has a critically underfunded public employee pension. Been on the news for forty years..... And still people put that chunk of check into a failing institution week after week hoping some idiot in Congress will fix it

That house.... Not really yours.... That money in the bank?.... Not yours either

Are you even serious or are you just busting scooters balls?

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[keister]

Cardi B will be your next president

Because many Americans really are that f**kin stupid

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I keep hearing about this Cardi B lately. Who is this person? I needed to find out. She just won a grammy. Apparently a very talented songwriter too.
So after a little Googling and YouTubing, here are the results of my research. Below I have copy pasted some lyrics from her latest song.
The song is called "Girls Like You." These lyrics are very deep and meaningful. I expect this gem will really stand the test of time:

"I'm sure them other girls were nice enough
But you need someone to spice it up
So who you gonna call? Cardi, Cardi
Come and rev it up like a Harley, Harley..........
I don't really want a white horse and a carriage
I'm thinkin' more white Porsches and karats
I need you right here 'cause every time you call
I play with this kitty like you play with your guitar"

Good grief! Welcome to the USA in 2019.

[ironchop]

See you bend and twist like all the others .........i`ve played your dumazz game and did pretty good at it .........but that does`nt make it right ..........you think you or i payed into this because we wanted to ...........this might as well be socialism .........Prison planet ...........i wants to rob the government to get the money they stole from me back ............i`m hoping the gov. would make a deal that healthcare can`t refuse .........like take over because of price gouging ..........don`t try to shove people loving up my ace ........how much is your insurance for profit costing you Chop ? .......GTFO of here .........If one pays they`re taxes ........isn`t one entitled to more then they`re dick in their hands ? .........there was no choice about SS or taxes you act like it`s all voluntary ? .........give me something for my taxes or ............give it da fack back !..........what have you done for me lately or ever ?...........Chop & Scooter don`t be offended .........it`s just discussions ........pissing in the wind.......crickets cause ya gotta work ........ya gotta produce ..........slave to the grind !..........pay your taxes so Trumpy dump can wipe his ace !I bend and twist?

Dude you straight up went full socialist one day after saying you hate people. You flip flop like a worn out sandal

You distrust the government but you want them to control something to make it more fair for you?

I'm calling you out for being full of shat, son. I don't give a damn about being offended so don't confuse the two things.

You don't like taxes? Whatever. You stay right there in California and take it right up your piehole and then you get on here pounding your chest telling everyone else to stop putting up with it like you're some sort of example to follow. Blow this dick

One second you crying about no wall and the next second you want a wall

You sound like little Jussie..... "Orange man bad"

They're all bad, dumba$$. Get a frickin clue.




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[ironchop]

Well we know how passionate you are and we don`t want you to bail .............yours is NOT the only way .........how much does your bitchen health insurance cost you ?............would you rather pay for that or food.........YEAH I WANT IT TO BE MORE BETTER FOR ME !.............BOTH PARTIES AGENDA`S SUCK ...........sorry it`s not your way highway right away !LMAO

where did you get the idea that I said the the screwing we Americans receive is acceptable?...Stop projecting.

Now to my point...

My insurance sucks now, Rick. Just as you suspected. I got sued last year for hospital bills that my insurance refused to pay whereas in previous years, the same stuff was covered

You want to know WHY MY INSURANCE SUCKS?......Rick?

BECAUSE SOME BLEEDING HEART IDIOT SAID SOMETHING STUPID LIKE "If only the government would step in and find a way to stop price gouging and make healthcare more affordable"

GUESS WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

OH your precious government "fixed" it alright..... They made it far more expensive and FORCED participation for everyone except the few who's votes were purchased with free PAP smears and sex changes.

So tell me....... No.... I want you to draw me a f**king picture because I'm "so passionate".... So go on and draw me a picture so that my stupid self can understand the Glamy Ten Point Plan for the government to fix healthcare. Make sure to highlight the part where it will be different than the last time government "fixed" healthcare.

Stop being a shill

The government stealing money from your pocket and then convincing you that you get "entitlements" in return is exactly how they duped several generations into staying quiet and showing up for work


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[Scootertrash]

He can't bust my balls, they're brass.

I gots balls that jingle jangle jingle..........

I Ifiggered he either got a bud of CRABinnis Sativa in his bong or

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[sledcrazyinCT]

Insurance prices dropped on January 1st, 2019 so if you are self employed go find a new plan ASAP!

If you are on an employer plan once the calendar year of the old Obama care policy expires, much lower renewal rates should be offered. If not question why the price didn't drop ALOT!


Health Insurance needs to be ala carte with no preconditions held against you, no need for single payer run by Uncle Sam.....you think private insurance companies take advantage? Wait til half your paycheck is sucked into the 'Medicare for all' slush fund. Lawmakers want to cut out the middle man 'for profit' insurance companies to keep more for of the loot for themselves....

[ironchop]

Yes my insurance was cheaper this year than last. It's still 100% more expensive than it was in 2013 and my deductible is still 300% higher than it was when I had "a Cadillac plan" that apparently offended people who don't want to improve their own lot in life and also the insulated and priveledged children who majored in activism in college... So Obama declared it illegal(they used the creative language, 'obsolete')... No white privilege health plan for Doug! Let's also not forget the tax penalty I had to pay the second year for cancelling my forced socialism. Do I get that back too?

I agree, not having good healthcare sucks. Do people die or suffer as a result? I'm certain of that. Maybe nowhere near the fear monger levels reported on TV but I'm sure it happens. Does that mean I deserve to pay twice as much? Nope. I got my own health problems with their own out-of-pocket expenses. Do I think someone else should pay more so that I can have reduced cost heart surgeries? Nope. It's MY burden to bear and my bill to pay. Why should someone else subsidize me to continue to eat fried crap and destroy myself with sloth and apathy? It's my fault I needed a bypass and I'm not entitled to anything from anyone else

I don't want the government to have even one more ounce of control in my life and I don't care what they claim they're going to fix.








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[El Camexican]

.......only a Mr. Bungle would make everyone pay for their own health insurance !

Only a socialist would expect anyone else to pay for theirs.

My level of care in Mexico is beyond comparison to the Canadian system. Unfortunately I still have to pay into the public system, but it is what it is. Got to keep the voters happy, even the lazy ones.

[ironchop]

..........only a Mr. Bungle would make everyone pay for their own health insurance !

What's the difference between myself and my employer paying my healthcare bill to a private insurance corporation as opposed to me paying a chunk of my paycheck to a government-controlled single payer provider? You're still paying for your own healthcare either way, no?

The difference is that in one system, I can opt out of participating but I'm on my own if I need medical care. No pay equals no care... In the other system, it doesn't matter if you don't pay, you still get care because they made sure to charge extra to the people who DO pay to cover you as well.

I'd rather pay for my own healthcare to Humana or another private insurance company than to pay for my own healthcare to Obamacaid or Berniecare. I guarantee that I get more for my money with Humana

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[sledcrazyinCT]

My level of care in Mexico is beyond comparison to the Canadian system. Unfortunately I still have to pay into the public system, but it is what it is. Got to keep the voters happy, even the lazy ones.
So Nico you mean single payer sucks and moola talks? Mexico lets doctors set the price? What does having in insurance in Mexico get you?

[ironchop]

..........and you get so aggro if someone does`nt agree with you ........TFB.........too facken bad !

No I don't. You tell me I'm brainwashed into believing in a system you think sucks and the solution you offer me is another solution that's even more ridiculous

Rick you flipped the f*** out on people on that 911 thread for disagreeing with you over the Cosmic death Ray thing and you got the nerve to call me "aggro if someone doesn't agree"?

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Quit being soft



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[ironchop]

My point is ..........you people can`t imagine a system that has nothing to do with the one thats in place now ..........you`re so trained to be buttfacked............you start sticking your azz up in the air anytime gov. speaks too you !..........and then 911 .......they use the Jedi mind trick on you...........oh yeah building always disintegrate and turn to dust at free fall speed within they`re own footprint.........no theres your azz up high ready to be fouked !.........ya make me sick ......and no i`m not like you........and don`t want to be ...........and you get so aggro if someone does`nt agree with you ........TFB.........too facken bad !You still haven't answered my question....

What's your plan? Socialism isn't a plan so don't even start with that crap. You tell me how this gets fixed without screwing people who don't deserve to be screwed. You think the healthcare industry is going to take a screwing?

Citizen always foots the bill

And who's trained? There only thing I've seen on mainstream media the last five straight years is "private insurance bad, free healthcare good"..... And here you are telling me how bad private insurance is.... Who's brainwashed again?



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[ironchop]

Come on baby ..........lets do the twist.............i`m with Judy Woods .........look at all the evidence and make your own conclusions ...........Bob Lazar says the US has the technology to revolutionize energy , propulsion and most importantly ..........KICK THE WORLDS AZZ...........they killed 3000 of their own people on 911...........they needed to be held accountable ....yesterday ! ..........remember just because you can`t comprehend something (deathray) doesn`t mean it does`nt exist !

We aren't rehashing that thread. I'm trying to explain to you that I'm no more aggro than you are.

I'm also trying to explain to you that my opinion is that socialized medicine is a deadend. You tried insinuating that anyone who doesn't like socialized medicine is an uncivilized cretin. I responded by insinuating that socialists are crack smokers. When you jump out in the hallway with your guns blazing, don't be surprised by the return fire. I'm as angry as you are and I want back my squandered and stolen tax money back too. It ain't gonna happen.

You think we pay enough tax to get government provided healthcare. I agree with that assessment but I'm under no impression that they wouldn't retain the current tax rate and continue wasting that money on traffic lights in Tel Aviv while they jack up the rate an additional 30% on top of what we already pay.... Unless you're a corporation.... Since I know this to be true, I want no part of increased taxes or social medicine because one thing always begats the other.

There is no such thing as "anything is better than what we have now"... That's almost never true.

Don't forget that the same people who orchestrated the 911 MURDERS are the ones you want to do the right thing and divert your tax bucks into some solid righteous and fair healthcare system.

I don't want those death Ray dickheads anywhere near my doctor's office

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[ironchop]

!......Yes i did explain in post #523............ if i catch you lying to me with selective reading of what i say ..........i`ll finish the conversation
OH NO! Are your little fallopian tubes in a twist?


Here goes ..........with the taxes the way they are NO new taxes .........Healthcare for all US citizens ! ..........Gov. takes over and they worry about the money ........ ?

No selective reading here.... You're fake and your suggestion is as short sighted and ignorant as it gets

So go on and end the conversation, tough guy

[ironchop]

End of conversation ya AGGRO COUNTRY FRIED FACKER

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[knappyfeet]

Wow.......can't we all just get along?

[ironchop]

I guess not..........what .......we have here is............gotta be his way every day right away ...........and the world don`t revolve around him.............witch is the way he wants it...........so he gets itDon't be weak. Passive aggressive is weak.

You're mad because you got caught flip flopping and you think you can run your mouth around here and not get put in check. You thought wrong.

You didn't read a damn thing I wrote or else you still wouldn't be running your mouth like a fool.

Read.My.Words.

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[El Camexican]

So Nico you mean single payer sucks and moola talks? Mexico lets doctors set the price? What does having in insurance in Mexico get you?

Yes I think single payer systems suck. It sucked in Canada and it sucks down here. Great stuff if you have a condition that's going to cost you $300,000 to fix and you don't have the means to pay it, but all that's really happening is that 300,000 people who don't know you each put a buck towards your care. When 50,000 of them need that same treatment down the line the system fails and the system fails. Its failing in Canada and the single payer system here is a total joke here.

I pay my insurance and I'm treated like a customer when I need something. I've been admitted to the ER about half a dozen times down here and it's never taken more than 30 minutes from the time walk in to seeing a doctor. Test are done in minutes and hours, not weeks and months and the results usually take less than 30 minutes. The doctors, hospitals and labs set their own prices, but there's competition and my insurance company sets rates the doctors can either accept, or walk away from.

I haven't got a single bad thing to say about our private system. Mexico has taught me that human life is worth a lot less that we're told its worth in the first world. Everybody dies one day, so sooner than others. Exhausting all the resources of a family to keep a terminal kid alive for an extra year, or a 70 year old man for an extra month makes no sense to me. That probably sounds awful, especially the kid part, but the reality is that there are almost 9 billion people on the planet and we can't all afford the best care available.

If anyone really wanted to make heath care affordable (like your Congress), making it impossible to sue doctors and hospitals would be a good start.

[Scootertrash]

IIRC glamy, you were a plumber, correct? Union plumber?

Tell ya what, I'll support you getting all the tax money taken from you back if you pay back all the people that payed you to do their plumbing. Why? Cuz free plumbing (or whatever your occupation was), is a right and people shouldn't have had to pay you for your services.

Seems fair to me. Whaddya say glams? Plumbing (or whatevs) for profit is a sham and a ripoff!! Free everything for everybody!!! Bernie for Prez!!! Another millionaire who will fix things for realz this time. Venezuela here we come!!!

[Scootertrash]

Hit all the like and dislikes you want glamy, this isn't farcebook and I don't care if you like my posts or not.

So what is it? Were you Union or not?

[ironchop]

Uncivilized cretin ?...........i don`t even know what that means...........you`ve been listening to that smuck Jordan Peterson ..........use a phrase like "you run your mouth" who died and made you king ? ..........heres another twisted phrase ......"anything is better then what we have now " (never said that)...........and then Jordan pencil dick says ......Thats almost never true.........little bull sh!t assumptions ..........so you can either apologize for being rude .........or else ......why don`t you get me kicked off ........because every time i hear that Jordan Peterson BS ..........you better call somebody .........you resorted to personal insultsI'm not apologizing for anything.

It's not Jordan Petersen either. It's called a highschool education.... Get one. This is Junior varsity vocabulary here

Saying things out of the side of your mouth to knappy and you get mad about me telling you that you're running your mouth? You are one twisted mess.

This entire forum is now perfectly clear about how the great and powerful Glamy can dish it out but his labia gets all stuck together when he gets what he gives.

You escalated this. You came on here yet again looking to start a fight with someone and you got what you wanted so don't start crying now.

You have this idiotic habit of getting mad at one person and then making broad sweeping generalizations about everyone else like that person and you insult others. Then you act like you don't know what you did. That's called 'gaslighting', a common tactic of narcissists.. Just like the redneck shyt. You got mad nobody wanted to talk about death rays again so you started attacking pickup truck and deer hunting because it hurts your feelings.

I don't have the inclination (that means 'desire') or the power to get you kicked off. As a matter of fact, I hope you don't go anywhere. I can't wait to wake up every morning and see your ridiculous continuation of this argument because we both know that you can't quit. It's too hard on your fragile ego.

I had alot of respect for you until last night and then I didn't. That's not going to change

I'll patiently await your next irrelevant and side-stepping reply because, even through you promised, you still haven't "ended the conversation"

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[Scootertrash]

Here's another little tidbit:

Whether you like it or not, there isn't a special room 15 stories below ground where all the "paperwork" exists with the "truth" to all of your conspiracies. Not one shred of evidence exists to point the finger or lay the blame at the real perps who committed or funded these crimes.

Are you really that gullible and naive to believe that buried somewhere is all the evidence with the actual "truth"? :lol::lol::lol:

It doesn't matter who your special guy is you would try to elect as Pres, he or she is not going to reveal Jack or Sh!t pertaining to your conspiracies to you to validate your feelz.

In fact it doesn't matter who your boy is, you will never be happy with anyone elected President because they will never be able to give you everything you want. Not Ron Paul, not Jesse, nobody. After 6 months you'd be pissed because Ron Paul "Promised to audit the Fed but he ain't done it", or Jesse promised to "reveal the truth behind 911 and he ain't done it yet".

And LOf'nL at Jesse for President. So somehow a conspiracy TV/radio show nutcase is better than a reality TV star? :lol::lol::lol:

Slave to the man? Fackin LOL again. You're slave to a plant, an f'n weed, and you get taxed for it. Your state is bouncing off of turds and wrapped in wet TP, swirling the bottom of the bowl, but "Hey man, I gots my legal weed, dude!"

Another Democrat/ProgressiveSocialist Kaliforinistan policy that didn't work. Again.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/california-collecting-far-less-than-expected-in-marijuana-taxes-2019-01-10


The Democrat’s proposed spending plan, released Thursday, projects the state will bank $355 million in marijuana excise taxes by the end of June. That’s roughly half of what was once expected after broad legal sales kicked off last year.


Industry experts say the diminished tax income reflects a somber reality: Most consumers are continuing to purchase pot in the illegal marketplace, where they avoid taxes that can near 50% in some communities.


By some estimates, up to 80% of sales in the state remain under the table, snatching profits from legal storefronts.


That said, Drayton added that legal businesses need a break from hefty tax rates that are driving consumers to the illicit economy. Various proposals have been made to cut state pot taxes.


Wooop der it is!! Legal businesses need tax breaks. But, but I thought the communists..er...um...excuse me, Sociali..... I mean Progressive Democrats were against tax breaks for businesses? Oh, that's right! Only for business they don't like!!


The issues he (Newsome) intends to look at include the distribution pipeline and claims that local governments are gouging the industry.

Wait! What?!?!?! Government entities are GOUGING? Hoolleee fack Batman! Say it ain't so!! That would never happen with healthcare. Nope. Never.:rolleyes:

Yea, the Government wouldn't do any gouging, nah, no way. They're only concerned about the citizens well being, they'd never dip into the cookie jar.

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Government in charge of healthcare???

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[ironchop]

I'll patiently await your next irrelevant and side-stepping reply because, even through you promised, you still haven't "ended the conversation"

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Let the record reflect that I called it



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[fabiodriven]

Who would imagine a thread about politics devolving into such a mess?

Glamy and Chop, stop it, both of you.

[ironchop]

.........i need redpill cause i don`t know to treat a woman...........here let me jake off in my hand ! ........

These are the broad sweeping generalizations I'm taking about Fabio.... willing to insult everyone from the TRP thread now because he's mad at me.

I'll go away now and participate in other threads instead. I said what I needed to say.



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[fabiodriven]

Scooter I'd appreciate it if you think again about my choice in regards for who I feel would be a good leader for this country. Jesse Ventura is a lot more than a "TV star nut job", or whatever it is you said. Jesse Ventura is a very smart man who isn't interested in BS, and I happen to like him very much. I've listened to probably hours of interviews with him and he's a straight shooter, something this country needs.

Not only that, but he is one of the most highly trained soldiers this country will acknowledge. I feel like a leader with military training could do this country some good, so maybe the many sniveling civilian bitchez who have never served a day in their lives might learn a little respect.

[Scootertrash]

Scooter I'd appreciate it if you think again about my choice in regards for who I feel would be a good leader for this country. Jesse Ventura is a lot more than a "TV star nut job", or whatever it is you said. Jesse Ventura is a very smart man who isn't interested in BS, and I happen to like him very much. I've listened to probably hours of interviews with him and he's a straight shooter, something this country needs.

Not only that, but he is one of the most highly trained soldiers this country will acknowledge. I feel like a leader with military training could do this country some good, so maybe the many sniveling civilian bitchez who have never served a day in their lives might learn a little respect.

Many of our leaders (and politicians in DC) have had military training and/or served their country and they still kowtow(ed) to the Deep State and/or failed to represent the people who elected them because Big Interest money speaks louder than the peons who elected them. Look where we are as a country.

Can you guarantee me Jesse would be different?

The other problem Jesse would have is the same problem Trump is having. He's an outsider who would be upsetting the apple cart of Washington Beltway politics. Jesse got some good stuff done here, but for the most part was met with resistance on most of his policies, as well as constant negative press from the media for petty little faux pas he committed, all inconsequential petty little BS. Sound familiar?

Jesse Ventura called them "Media Jackals" and also used the term "Fake News". He'll receive the same treatment as Trump

The Democrat Weaponized FBI has wasted 2 years and millions of taxpayer dollars investigating B.S. charge of "collusion" against Trump because he had contacts with Russia pertaining to building a Hotel there.

Jesse had a TV show carried by Russian TV. How do you think that's gonna go over? (personally IDGAF)


Ventura announced that he would not run for a second term, stating that he no longer felt dedicated enough to his job to run again as well as what he viewed were constant attacks on his family by the media. Ventura accused the media of hounding him and his family for personal behavior and beliefs while neglecting coverage of important policy issues. He later told a reporter for The Boston Globe that he would have run for a second term if he had been single, citing the media's effect on his family life.

The above quote is from 2002. What would the media attacks be like now?

I'm guessing your last comment about respect was not directed at me. I've never disrespected someones military service. Just because I may not care for someone or their ideals doesn't mean I disrespect their military service.

[Scootertrash]

I'll be back later. Broke the strap on my purse.........

[fabiodriven]

I don't care if you know why I think Jesse Ventura would be a good candidate and I don't care to attempt to explain to you either. I don't care if you don't think he's a good candidate either. I haven't suggested you or anyone else vote for him, and I don't owe you any explanation.

What I do know is that man deserves your respect, and the fact that you speak of him the way you do tells me that you know absolutely nothing about him, because I think it's likely if you did that you would be a fan. I don't care if you cherry-pick quotes that fit your agenda, but I suggest before you speak, you find out who it is you're speaking about. That man stands for truth far above that of the average person, and there's so much more to him than just that. You have a plethora of shite slinging quotes and articles to link if you want to, but just like the rest of the "information" out there, so much of it is fabricated that it's tricky to get the truth, except if you ask Jesse, because he'll gladly tell you. Maybe you can't tell who he is, but I can.

Yes I am sticking up for a fellow veteran. Expect that if you're going to drag the name of another well respected veteran in the dirt.

[sledcrazyinCT]

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesse-Ventura Does he currently do podcasts? Like to hear what he thinks of current POTUS.


Don't know much about the man other than he managed to be elected governor of MN & my parents loathed I watched wrestling as a teen.

Military service and serving in Congress has declined over the decades. Didn't realize close to 3/4 of lawmakers in the 70's served in the military.


Below is breakdown after 2018 elections




[*=left]96 total veterans in the 116th Congress.
[*=left]30 are Democrats, 66 are Republicans.
[*=left]19 will serve in the Senate, 77 will serve in the House.
[*=left]48 served in the military after 2000.
[*=left]21 served in the military in the 1960s or earlier.
[*=left]19 are first-time lawmakers.
[*=left]7 are women.
[*=left]50 served in the Army, Army Reserve or Army National Guard.
[*=left]17 served in the Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve.
[*=left]17 served in the Air Force, Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard.
[*=left]13 served in the Navy or Naval Reserve.
[*=left]1 served in the Coast Guard.



https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/11/21/veterans-in-the-116th-congress-by-the-numbers/

[sledcrazyinCT]

Scooter you live in MN during Ventura's term as governor?

[fabiodriven]

I've been a huge Howard Stern fan since the age of 17 (I'm 39 now). There were years where I would listen just about every single day. People scoff at the thought of Howard Stern, but he is in my opinion the best interviewer of all time. He gets to points in interviews with people that are so deep, you can't imagine people would say those things publicly while millions of people listen. Often times people who have been on the show express that after the fact, that they didn't even think about being on the air. The interviews are very intimate and raw, and you can see what these people really are once they're themselves on the air with Howard.

The Howard Stern show was my introduction to Jesse Ventura other than the movie Predator. I never watched wrastling. The Howard Stern show was also my introduction to Donald Trump and his family. I knew them years before you all and I liked him! I wouldn't say I dislike him now, but rather I'm unsure.

I saw something recently with Jesse that I remember almost sharing at the time, I don't recall what it was now. I don't listen to podcasts so I don't know about that. What I do know is he is an outstanding example of a soldier, because it takes a very special person to do what he has. I don't care if you're a general, the real soldier is a United States Navy SEAL. The general might even tell you that behind closed doors.

Aside from that (going from memory), he was a very active member of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. I recall him telling stories of the way he got things done politically, plowing through red tape bee ess to get shite done. I like how he exposes truth and seeks out answers to things that nobody else is asking questions about.

If anybody wants to learn about Jesse Ventura there's plenty to see and hear. If you happen to have the time and patience, and would be genuinely interested, old Howard Stern interviews would be a great place to hear what he really has to say. I don't imagine many people taking the time to sit back and listen to a couple of hours of interviews, but if you'd really like to learn, there it is. As popular as the Howard Stern show is, sometimes it's amazing the tidbits that come out on the air there that you never hear anywhere else.

[Scootertrash]

Scooter you live in MN during Ventura's term as governor?

Yes I did.

He got some good stuff accomplished, but for the most part he was fought tooth and nail both both Democrats and Republicans. Also attacked by the media constantly just like Trump, typically petty little bullsh!t pumped up by local left leaning media to distract from more important things that should have been focused on politically (sound familiar?)

In one particular incident, I forget the original premise but he was on David Letterman, he said something to the effect of "The streets of St. Paul (MN) must have been designed by drunken Irishmen". Obviously a joke but the media blew it out of proportion claiming St. Paulites were extremely offended etc, etc, bla bla bla. Which in reality was a bunch of BS, most of the Irish folk thought it was funny.

Well first off, St. Paul Minnesota has a very strong Irish heritage and history, so the streets were designed by Irishmen, although probably not drunk, but who really knows:naughty::lol:

Secondly, the streets in St Paul are pretty messed up. You'd have to try to navigate them to know what I mean.:lol:

The parallels between Jesses Governorship and Trumps Presidency are very similar.

Hence my contention that if Jesse were to be elected pres it would just be another f'n shyteshow with constant distractions to avoid focusing on his accomplishments, just like Trump.


ETA: I'm willing to bet that hardly anybody here could actually provide me with a list of Trumps accomplishments. Whether you agree with them or not ;)

[Scootertrash]

I don't care if you know why I think Jesse Ventura would be a good candidate and I don't care to attempt to explain to you either. I don't care if you don't think he's a good candidate either. I haven't suggested you or anyone else vote for him, and I don't owe you any explanation.

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Scooter I'd appreciate it if you think again about my choice in regards for who I feel would be a good leader for this country.

I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him. As a matter of fact, depending on who he was running against, I would very possibly vote for him and give him a chance. I sure as fack ain't voting for a democrat.

The only quote I posted was direct from Governor Ventura himself. I've friggin lived in Mn my whole life, I grew up watching Jesse on all Star Wrestling, followed him in his pursuit of the governorship of our state. I voted for him and supported him 100%, and was disappointed when he didn't run a second time because I would have voted for him a second term.

Since I live in the same state as he used to, I've also been witness to his childish antics, name-calling, and a handful of frivolous lawsuits over petty issues with other media personalities.

I know plenty about Mr. Ventura

You're free to base your opinion on his polished media persona, scripted interviews, and cherry picked sound bites. He's a media personality just like the rest: dolled up groomed and packaged so people will watch his show(s) or listen to his podcasts so he can make money, or if the case may be, vote for him.

I never criticized you for sticking up for a fellow Vet did I?

I didn't ask you for an explanation, yet you assume I asking for one.

Disagreement does not equal disrespect. We're not talking about his military career, we're talking about his politics and various other agendas he has.

I never once disrespected his military career, of which I am also very aware, so stop your thinly veiled attacks trying to insinuate that I am.

[Scootertrash]

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesse-Ventura Does he currently do podcasts? Like to hear what he thinks of current POTUS.


Don't know much about the man other than he managed to be elected governor of MN & my parents loathed I watched wrestling as a teen.

Military service and serving in Congress has declined over the decades. Didn't realize close to 3/4 of lawmakers in the 70's served in the military.


Below is breakdown after 2018 elections




[*=left]96 total veterans in the 116th Congress.
[*=left]30 are Democrats, 66 are Republicans.
[*=left]19 will serve in the Senate, 77 will serve in the House.
[*=left]48 served in the military after 2000.
[*=left]21 served in the military in the 1960s or earlier.
[*=left]19 are first-time lawmakers.
[*=left]7 are women.
[*=left]50 served in the Army, Army Reserve or Army National Guard.
[*=left]17 served in the Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve.
[*=left]17 served in the Air Force, Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard.
[*=left]13 served in the Navy or Naval Reserve.
[*=left]1 served in the Coast Guard.



https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/11/21/veterans-in-the-116th-congress-by-the-numbers/

Funny how we still ended up with the Government we have now isn't it?

ETA: Yes, Jesse was a member of the Mongols M/C.

[fabiodriven]

Yeah I think we see more eye to eye than it may have appeared, not sure how we ended up butting heads on this one. You're alright scooter.

You other guys arguing, sheesh! Lol, obviously I know how it goes but this too shall pass. I don't think either of the two heated mass debaters need to stop posting, just calm the frig down.

[Scootertrash]

I'll just leave these here ;)

https://www.prageru.com/video/how-socialism-ruined-my-country/

https://www.prageru.com/video/hows-socialism-doing-in-venezuela/

[fabiodriven]

So there are certain parts of this argument I can help clarify I think. Glamy sometimes has difficulties expressing himself and I think I now have the gist of his point, and also this is a point we both happen to agree on. I was planning on not getting involved in this at all, but then obviously I tossed my hat in the ring with the Jesse Ventura stuff.

So what the Glamster and I both believe is that human kind already has free, clean, renewable energy, but the rest of us are not privileged enough to be able to take advantage of such a thing. What does this have to do with the POTUS? Well, everything, because if there were free energy out there, and if it were made available to all, it would change everything. It would change more than most people are able wrap their heads around. If free energy were released to the planet and became available for all, then you would see the financial systems globally obliterated. Governments would be rocked to their cores, and it will be a painful change for some. Fortunately, the bulk of people I project being affected will be the wealthy, because once there is free energy for all the playing field is completely leveled. There will be no more wealthy people and poor people to a degree, or at least those roles will be altered drastically. It will turn humankind upside-down.

I believe very few drastic changes come about without significant effort and many times loss and sacrifice, that's how our universe works (to me). Mankind needs to evolve in my opinion, and this would be a huge step all at once, which is likely the first reason these things get hidden from us. Then it becomes a power thing, they hold it over our heads. If you didn't need to buy gas, oil, propane, electricity, cars, car parts, etc... and that's just the tip of the iceburg. Millionaires, billionaires, trustees, CEO's, owners, crooked politicians... All of their worlds will be rocked, and all of a sudden they will no longer be better than you and I (not that they are now but they think they are). They will be the same as all of us, and the planet has the potential to do this or continue down the destructive path we are, which I believe will destroy this planet sooner than later. That's assuming it's not already too late.

This is the point where people such as Glamorosa and I get called socialists, which is incorrect. Implying that we are socialists would mean we believe in that particular political preference, which I definitely do not. I have no political preference. A lot of people also think that we're "take from the rich and give to the poor" type of people, and that's not the case either. I know it's out of the realm of possibility for most people to even imagine, but try, if you could, to imagine a place where everyone is rich, where everyone has their needs met and can enjoy life. It is completely feasible for many reasons, but it will never happen if mankind isn't given free energy. There's far too much out there pointing to the fact that it does exist to ignore, starting with ancient structures, moving on to Tesla, then all the people who have mysteriously died over the years who also just happened to be inventing free energy sources. I think people fail to realize how trapped we all are in this sense. We all have to buy fuel and electricity pretty much. There are a lot of things that all of us have to buy. There are resources enough for every person on this planet, but as we're all aware there are very few who control the masses. Through money, social media, smart phones, just everyday life is a generally controlled direction.

All they have to is create a current, like in the water, and send the fishes the direction they choose. The fish feel as though they are free and swim about in the water in any direction they wish, however they have no idea where the current is taking them. This is all very easy to do in our modern world, we are all controlled. To strip the people who hold those controls of their power would be to the ultimate benefit of our planet. We might then see the curtain come down and see everything unveiled, and see what this place really is and how it's run. You'd find out really fast who's good and who isn't. I'd love to know the reason there are so many anomalous lights and craft flying around that we're all supposed to pretend aren't there.

It's amazing to me the things that are out there every day, with "free" minds able to inquire about these things whenever they want, and in the grand scheme of it all, during a time when science is seriously investigating star gates, other dimensions, and anomalous flying craft that do thousands of miles an hour and fly through space, air, and water, when the god particle is being captured and studied, when science can prove that ancient structures we thought were made by people with chisels are actually laser accurate and couldn't be produced by current man with our most modern technology... that people are actually consumed with bullshit, meaningless nobodies like Trump and Hillary. You people are concerned about supposed emails, sex scandals, race baiting, cheating, lies, argument, money, a farking wall, and politicians who sit there and argue like farking four year olds, and you think you're up on current events. Lmfao. None of that shite matters, it's all there to distract you. Not just the TV show, not just the social media, not just this discussion. Our government and the wealthy corporations as well as the wealthy people around the planet rely on your slavery and participation in this system. If free energy were released to us all, then all of that would come crashing down, so why would they release it to us?

Scooter says "So tell me awesome Fabio, what is your plan now? How do you plan on making all this happen? How are we going to survive when everything comes crashing down?"

1- I have no plan to implement as of this time. I am a part of this trap as well, it's designed to be difficult to escape as well as keep you happy while you're in it. If you're happy, then it's almost like you're not trapped. I have been able to end my slavery, but not on purpose. I believe everything happens for a reason, and I've paid my dues in life. Being out of slavery now lets me see even more clearly the toll it takes on human beings, and everyone accepts that and is OK with it. I do believe in hard work, I have to work hard every day or I have problems hanging my hat at night, but I'm not for running people into the ground and taking away the light inside of them which is their life. People are stripped of that light and go to work every day like robots, they don't even know how to stop once they retire. It took me over a year to learn how to slow down and live after I stopped working. We are kept in constant worry every day of paying bills that we have no choice in paying, we have to be worth some kind of money, whether it be from work or someone else, and you have to pay to live in this world for the most part. It's no wonder people can't stand each other, we're all a bunch of caged animals.

2- I do my part myself, for me. I make my own world that is ideal for me. If the day comes where I can make a difference for others, I will gladly partake.

3- You might not survive, I might not either, but if it's for the benefit of the human race and in the name of evolution, I'm in.

"Do you have a problem with people succeeding more than others?" No I don't. If we can fix this planet and take it back from wealthy billionaires and greedy politicians, then people can succeed in other ways. Ways that might be too far down the road for us to even imagine at this point, so please don't ask me that.

It's unfortunate that my views are most likely to be laughed at, but I'm laughing too. I'm laughing at all of you so worried about bullshit that doesn't matter, and it's funny to think that you think you're following these things of your own free will. It's funny to me to think about how much of this stuff is so, so irrelevant. It's funny to me how much proof there is about a past on this very planet that is far, far different than we've all been taught in history books, yet this tripe is what's in the American people's minds. When I travel out of this country, it's so amusing how little of this matters to the rest of the world. I also like to correlate that fact with the Amount of Americans who wince when I talk about traveling to foreign countries, and talk about how they would never do that. "Isn't it really dangerous there? Someone's gonna harvest your organs!" Typical of an American who has never traveled to try and impart wisdom about travel to someone who travels. You're supposed to be afraid to travel.

You're in a bubble here, this shite doesn't matter at all. That's why I always refer to all of this stuff as a TV show, that's all it is to me. I am grateful for what I have that my government allows me to have, but who are they to dole out whatever it is they are to me? If free energy exists, and I believe it does, it makes this silly rat race stick out for what it really is. But what do I know?

Is that what you meant Glamy?

[Tri-Z 250]

^^^ See in the grand illusion, we all just learn to get along. Excepting ourselves and learning through shared giving to except and embrace one another. To live as one with Mother Earth....ding*...ahhhummmm. We want compermise forward thinking in raising the ability to create livable family Culture. We need to quit leaning on this Gov boogie man chase around the World to invent Wars to occupie foreign lands. Resource USA...That's what I'm looking for..

[ironchop]

Yeah not only that but.........i need to apologize to Ironchop and Scootertrash for ALL hostilities on my behalf ...........it`s not the way i want to be remembered .........what Fabs said 10 fold........i really do want the people to succeed .........i`m ready to live like the Jetsons ......but it`s not happening fast enough..........and Chop and Scooter if this society is good enough for you .....i need to except that .........one of the things i learned from ........tripping........is to be a better human being.........and it`s been awhile and i might seek the help of a Shaman.........i have demons to get rid of .........i`m still self destructive.........but thats my problem not yours...........i apologize to the board ........i actually wish the best for everyone ........ThanksThat means allot to me.

I have to apologize to you for being so hostile.

This society REALLY ISN'T good enough for me at all Rick. It's bulkshyte thru and thru. I'm not Left or Right. The problem before us is massive and all I'm trying to say is that I want less of Them altogether in my life until they can be purged because they destroy everything they touch and it ends up worse than it started.

But they aren't going to let us cut the cord, so we're going to have to cut it ourselves and the only way to do that is for the whole thing to come crashing down. Lots of us are just waiting for the signal, no?

I'm a complicated guy. I was a registered Democrat and then a Republican and then Independent. They all betrayed me. Now I belong to the Get Off My Lawn Party.

I don't want Fascism and I don't want Anarchy

I don't know what I want, but I know what I don't want

I'll admit I like the echo chamber here sometimes but it's only because everything outside of here is a progressive/neoconservative Echo chamber and I'm tired of them owning the platform. That's probably what set me off. I need to be better about respecting other folks opinions, though.



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[Arky-X]

So there are certain parts of this argument I can help clarify I think. Glamy sometimes has difficulties expressing himself and I think I now have the gist of his point, and also this is a point we both happen to agree on. I was planning on not getting involved in this at all, but then obviously I tossed my hat in the ring with the Jesse Ventura stuff.

So what the Glamster and I both believe is that human kind already has free, clean, renewable energy, but the rest of us are not privileged enough to be able to take advantage of such a thing. What does this have to do with the POTUS? Well, everything, because if there were free energy out there, and if it were made available to all, it would change everything. It would change more than most people are able wrap their heads around. If free energy were released to the planet and became available for all, then you would see the financial systems globally obliterated. Governments would be rocked to their cores, and it will be a painful change for some. Fortunately, the bulk of people I project being affected will be the wealthy, because once there is free energy for all the playing field is completely leveled. There will be no more wealthy people and poor people to a degree, or at least those roles will be altered drastically. It will turn humankind upside-down.
...............



https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/01/18/a-man-who-invented-a-real-free-energy-machine-just-passed-away-video-of-machine-in-article/

Lots of quotes and links in this article regarding "free energy."
I find it interesting that it is in our grasps and hasn't overwhelmed the market yet. Take this quote from the article;
“It wasn’t long before carriage makers were driving horseless carriages. It wasn’t long before people crossing the continent on trains abandoned the railroads for airliners. Natural gas is replacing coal and there is nothing the railroads, the coal miners, or the coal companies can do about it. Cheaper and more efficient energy always wins out over more expensive energy. Coal replaced wood, and oil replaced coal as the primary source of energy. Anything that is more efficient boosts the figures on the bottom line of the ledger. Dollars chase efficiency. Inefficiency is suppressed by market forces. Efficiency wins in the market place." --- Toby Grotz, an electrical engineer who has researched new energy technologies since 1973

The energy wouldn't be free in a monetary sense to the consumer (i.e. electricity prices) but it would definitely be efficient which wins in the end. But......

Several other links and quotes in the article stating that this technology isn't suppressed while others stating it is. The Invention Secrecy Act guards discoveries or inventions (in the name of national security) and some of those were solar or energy conversions that meet certain efficiencies.

One particular technology is in regard to using a vacuum of space. In short, the research was shut down quickly and in the scientist's quote he explains how it works and then......
"….Then scientists, engineers and philosophers will bend their heads in shame knowing that modern science ignored the vacuum in our chase to discover reality for more than a century.” – Tewari


I would like to think that efficiencies would win out in the market but even when they do, the rich are the ones that control the production of said machines with new technology.

[fabiodriven]

The thing is arky, multiple times you refer to money, payments, a market, consumers, those who will become "rich". You're not grasping the scope of a situation like this. Currency as we know it could very well cease to exist if free energy were given to all. I have no doubt the federal reserve would crumble and fall, and the dollar likely wouldn't exist anymore. We're talking about evolution, not the next chapter. This would be a new book completely. That's not to say some sort of currency or something along those lines couldn't take the place of the currencies we're all familiar with currently, but there's nothing saying anything has to.

Not everything is money, but unfortunately that's one of the first things on most people's minds a good amount of the time. Most people cannot even imagine a world without money, and don't even want to. Greed is a very strong trait in humankind which spans all creeds and colors, sexes and ages. It's inherently strong in a huge percentage of people, but it makes life easier for me. Greedy people are very predictable.

You referred to people being rich after such big change, but I think you meant wealthy. There is a very big difference between those two words. We would all be rich if we all had unlimited resources, that's the point.

We may be straying from the original topic slightly at this point.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Doesn’t matter what course this thread takes. Love the exchange of ideas and hearing different POVs. Civil discourse and the battle of ideologies is coming to a head.

Capitalism versus Socialism is the powder keg ready to ignite our second civil war.

[ironchop]

Capitalism versus Socialism is the powder keg ready to ignite our second civil war.

And both, each with it's own unique problems, are primarily used as a means of control...

I read a short essay a few years back that really hit home for me. I don't recall the author or title (not Jordan Petersen lol), but the premise was this: Ideologies are ALL bullshyt. They are nothing more than a method for mobilizing people to do what you want. This is why various ideological forms of government meet with failure. The intent was always about control and they use allegiance to an ideology, the content of which is unimportant, because humans are always seeking a higher purpose or a place to vent their personal inadequacies or to project them onto others. The Ideologies are eventually sacrificed to the Altar of Power in order to consolidate that control and it happens in every single different method of governing.

Marx reads like a man bitter about his own lot in life as he finds a way to justify vilifying the successful and redistributing the fruit of their labor and then murdering or oppressing them because they deserve it for being successful. It fills an emotional need inside of the downtrodden for a hero to show up and knock those elitists off their high horses and make them pay for some imagined slight like enjoying the finer things in life, like cake [emoji23] (*cough*)

Capitalism is a means of control as well. We all go show up to work for free 36% of the week so that those above us can use the money to enrich themselves and then(and den....) they throw us some scraps from the table and tell us it's the American Dream. We can buy more whizzbangs and Whatsiehoosits in 5K def and for hobbies, there's televised Politisports Ball and internet Tindr, or maybe masturbate to internet porn. When we want to impress others, we can buy cars and houses to signal to everyone that we succeeded at the beautiful and totally fair American Dream... Mostly, it's so we can fool ourselves and fill or own emotional needs with material stuff so we don't feel like we got robbed. I'm guilty of this line of thinking myself. I buy stuff I don't need because I like buying stuff. Makes me feel good. It's a bit self destructive.

90 days same as cash, sub-prime, no money down, no payments until next year. Debt is slavery...... I say this as I'm checking my credit karma report and looking for farmland to buy.

I still think capitalism is the fairest possible system if you want to live in a technologically advanced world, and when I hear proponents of Socialism say that "they just didn't do it right that time" or "not true socialism" to explain the failures, I get confused because these people want to smash capitalism '"because it doesn't work" but offer another alternative with an equally long track record of immense suffering, death, and starvation.

In the end, the point of the essay was that we need to be wary of the people preaching any Ideologies to us. I don't believe in selflessness or Altruism as I think all humans have base or emotional motives behind even the kindest of gestures. This is why the folks who are trying to selflessly lead you into salvation and "help you" usually insist on being at the top of the food chain after the revolution, "you know, so I can keep us on track until someone else can take over later"..... And it always results in a dictatorship or a temporary power grab scam with a trail of bodies and misery.

I think most humans are incapable of never behaving in their own individual self interests and that's why utopian ideals fail. It takes a tremendous amount of personal sacrifice in order to realize this "better world" and most people are too selfish to sacrifice much.

These are just my opinions



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[Scootertrash]

And both, each with it's own unique problems, are primarily used as a means of control...

I read a short essay a few years back that really hit home for me. I don't recall the author or title (not Jordan Petersen lol), but the premise was this: Ideologies are ALL bullshyt. They are nothing more than a method for mobilizing people to do what you want. This is why various ideological forms of government meet with failure. The intent was always about control and they use allegiance to an ideology, the content of which is unimportant, because humans are always seeking a higher purpose or a place to vent their personal inadequacies or to project them onto others. The Ideologies are eventually sacrificed to the Altar of Power in order to consolidate that control and it happens in every single different method of governing.

Marx reads like a man bitter about his own lot in life as he finds a way to justify vilifying the successful and redistributing the fruit of their labor and then murdering or oppressing them because they deserve it for being successful. It fills an emotional need inside of the downtrodden for a hero to show up and knock those elitists off their high horses and make them pay for some imagined slight like enjoying the finer things in life, like cake [emoji23] (*cough*)

Capitalism is a means of control as well. We all go show up to work for free 36% of the week so that those above us can use the money to enrich themselves and then(and den....) they throw us some scraps from the table and tell us it's the American Dream. We can buy more whizzbangs and Whatsiehoosits in 5K def and for hobbies, there's Politisports Ball and Tindr, or maybe masturbate more to internet porn. When we want to impress others, we can buy cars and houses to signal to everyone that we succeeded at the beautiful and totally fair American Dream... Mostly, it's so we can fool ourselves and fill or own emotional needs with material stuff so we don't feel like we got robbed. I'm guilty of this line of thinking myself. I buy stuff I don't need because I like buying stuff. It's a bit self destructive.

90 days same as cash, sub-prime, no money down, no payments until next year. Debt is slavery...... I say this as I'm checking my credit karma report and looking for farmland to buy.

I still think capitalism is the fairest possible system if you want to live in a technologically advanced world, and when I hear proponents of Socialism say that "they just didn't do it right that time" or "not true socialism" to explain the failures, I get confused because these people want to smash capitalism '"because it doesn't work" but offer another alternative with an equally long track record of immense suffering, death, and starvation.

In the end, the point of the essay was that we need to be wary of the people preaching any Ideologies to us. I don't believe in selflessness or Altruism as I think all humans have base or emotional motives behind even the kindest of gestures. This is why the folks who are trying to selflessly lead you into salvation and "help you" usually insist on being at the top of the food chain after the revolution, you know "so I can keep us on track until someone else can take over later"..... And it always results in a dictatorship or a temporary power grab scam with a trail of bodies and misery.

I think most humans are incapable of never behaving in their own individual self interests and that's why utopian ideals fail. It takes a tremendous amount of personal sacrifice in order to realize this "better world" and most people are too selfish to sacrifice much.

These are just my opinions

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Seriously, great post! More later;)

[fabiodriven]

So there are certain parts of this argument I can help clarify I think. Glamy sometimes has difficulties expressing himself and I think I now have the gist of his point, and also this is a point we both happen to agree on. I was planning on not getting involved in this at all, but then obviously I tossed my hat in the ring with the Jesse Ventura stuff.

So what the Glamster and I both believe is that human kind already has free, clean, renewable energy, but the rest of us are not privileged enough to be able to take advantage of such a thing. What does this have to do with the POTUS? Well, everything, because if there were free energy out there, and if it were made available to all, it would change everything. It would change more than most people are able wrap their heads around. If free energy were released to the planet and became available for all, then you would see the financial systems globally obliterated. Governments would be rocked to their cores, and it will be a painful change for some. Fortunately, the bulk of people I project being affected will be the wealthy, because once there is free energy for all the playing field is completely leveled. There will be no more wealthy people and poor people to a degree, or at least those roles will be altered drastically. It will turn humankind upside-down.

I believe very few drastic changes come about without significant effort and many times loss and sacrifice, that's how our universe works (to me). Mankind needs to evolve in my opinion, and this would be a huge step all at once, which is likely the first reason these things get hidden from us. Then it becomes a power thing, they hold it over our heads. If you didn't need to buy gas, oil, propane, electricity, cars, car parts, etc... and that's just the tip of the iceburg. Millionaires, billionaires, trustees, CEO's, owners, crooked politicians... All of their worlds will be rocked, and all of a sudden they will no longer be better than you and I (not that they are now but they think they are). They will be the same as all of us, and the planet has the potential to do this or continue down the destructive path we are, which I believe will destroy this planet sooner than later. That's assuming it's not already too late.

This is the point where people such as Glamorosa and I get called socialists, which is incorrect. Implying that we are socialists would mean we believe in that particular political preference, which I definitely do not. I have no political preference. A lot of people also think that we're "take from the rich and give to the poor" type of people, and that's not the case either. I know it's out of the realm of possibility for most people to even imagine, but try, if you could, to imagine a place where everyone is rich, where everyone has their needs met and can enjoy life. It is completely feasible for many reasons, but it will never happen if mankind isn't given free energy. There's far too much out there pointing to the fact that it does exist to ignore, starting with ancient structures, moving on to Tesla, then all the people who have mysteriously died over the years who also just happened to be inventing free energy sources. I think people fail to realize how trapped we all are in this sense. We all have to buy fuel and electricity pretty much. There are a lot of things that all of us have to buy. There are resources enough for every person on this planet, but as we're all aware there are very few who control the masses. Through money, social media, smart phones, just everyday life is a generally controlled direction.

All they have to is create a current, like in the water, and send the fishes the direction they choose. The fish feel as though they are free and swim about in the water in any direction they wish, however they have no idea where the current is taking them. This is all very easy to do in our modern world, we are all controlled. To strip the people who hold those controls of their power would be to the ultimate benefit of our planet. We might then see the curtain come down and see everything unveiled, and see what this place really is and how it's run. You'd find out really fast who's good and who isn't. I'd love to know the reason there are so many anomalous lights and craft flying around that we're all supposed to pretend aren't there.

It's amazing to me the things that are out there every day, with "free" minds able to inquire about these things whenever they want, and in the grand scheme of it all, during a time when science is seriously investigating star gates, other dimensions, and anomalous flying craft that do thousands of miles an hour and fly through space, air, and water, when the god particle is being captured and studied, when science can prove that ancient structures we thought were made by people with chisels are actually laser accurate and couldn't be produced by current man with our most modern technology... that people are actually consumed with bullshit, meaningless nobodies like Trump and Hillary. You people are concerned about supposed emails, sex scandals, race baiting, cheating, lies, argument, money, a farking wall, and politicians who sit there and argue like farking four year olds, and you think you're up on current events. Lmfao. None of that shite matters, it's all there to distract you. Not just the TV show, not just the social media, not just this discussion. Our government and the wealthy corporations as well as the wealthy people around the planet rely on your slavery and participation in this system. If free energy were released to us all, then all of that would come crashing down, so why would they release it to us?

Scooter says "So tell me awesome Fabio, what is your plan now? How do you plan on making all this happen? How are we going to survive when everything comes crashing down?"

1- I have no plan to implement as of this time. I am a part of this trap as well, it's designed to be difficult to escape as well as keep you happy while you're in it. If you're happy, then it's almost like you're not trapped. I have been able to end my slavery, but not on purpose. I believe everything happens for a reason, and I've paid my dues in life. Being out of slavery now lets me see even more clearly the toll it takes on human beings, and everyone accepts that and is OK with it. I do believe in hard work, I have to work hard every day or I have problems hanging my hat at night, but I'm not for running people into the ground and taking away the light inside of them which is their life. People are stripped of that light and go to work every day like robots, they don't even know how to stop once they retire. It took me over a year to learn how to slow down and live after I stopped working. We are kept in constant worry every day of paying bills that we have no choice in paying, we have to be worth some kind of money, whether it be from work or someone else, and you have to pay to live in this world for the most part. It's no wonder people can't stand each other, we're all a bunch of caged animals.

2- I do my part myself, for me. I make my own world that is ideal for me. If the day comes where I can make a difference for others, I will gladly partake.

3- You might not survive, I might not either, but if it's for the benefit of the human race and in the name of evolution, I'm in.

"Do you have a problem with people succeeding more than others?" No I don't. If we can fix this planet and take it back from wealthy billionaires and greedy politicians, then people can succeed in other ways. Ways that might be too far down the road for us to even imagine at this point, so please don't ask me that.

It's unfortunate that my views are most likely to be laughed at, but I'm laughing too. I'm laughing at all of you so worried about bullshit that doesn't matter, and it's funny to think that you think you're following these things of your own free will. It's funny to me to think about how much of this stuff is so, so irrelevant. It's funny to me how much proof there is about a past on this very planet that is far, far different than we've all been taught in history books, yet this tripe is what's in the American people's minds. When I travel out of this country, it's so amusing how little of this matters to the rest of the world. I also like to correlate that fact with the Amount of Americans who wince when I talk about traveling to foreign countries, and talk about how they would never do that. "Isn't it really dangerous there? Someone's gonna harvest your organs!" Typical of an American who has never traveled to try and impart wisdom about travel to someone who travels. You're supposed to be afraid to travel.

You're in a bubble here, this shite doesn't matter at all. That's why I always refer to all of this stuff as a TV show, that's all it is to me. I am grateful for what I have that my government allows me to have, but who are they to dole out whatever it is they are to me? If free energy exists, and I believe it does, it makes this silly rat race stick out for what it really is. But what do I know?

Is that what you meant Glamy?

OK this is exactly what I was talking about. I'm surprised I'd never seen or heard anything about this guy and his story before. Thank you Glamy for showing me this video.

https://youtu.be/dQ3FnTRvc_E