Winter sitting

[jakeesspoo]

I was out in the barn today cleaning up and tried to start some of the three wheelers. I will say that they all ran in the fall/summer so they havent sat that long Tried to start the 225 dx, two different honda 110's and a 125m with no luck. Even the argo wouldnt start.

I have three 200s that started, another 225dx, a 250 big red, and another 110.

I gave up after awhile as my shoulder was starting to hurt and batteries were getting low. Could the carbs have gunked up that quickly? I seem to have this problem every year I usually put a little sea-foam in my gas. Will it help to dump a little gas in the spark plug hole before trying to start? Is there some kind of hillbilly carb cleaning i can do without pulling the carb off? I just had some of these carbs off last year so i know they were clean then. Is gasoline now this shitty? I do not know what to make of it. Then again i do not know what to make out of having a dozen three wheelers either. For some reason in my mind it makes sense that if i got the bikes to run even a few seconds by squirting some gas in the spark plug hole that it would help or maybe it just eases my mind to at least hear them run a few seconds.

[81ATC185S]

Don't put sea-foam in the gas during storage. It breaks down super quick and gums up the carbs within a few months. Use actual fuel stabilizer next time.

[jakeesspoo]

Yeah I dont put the sea foam in for the winter storage purposely I have just always put a little sea foam in the gas for them when I would fill them up sometimes. I thought i was helping but maybe im just making more work for myself. So now should i just clea. All the carbs and put fresh gas in? Boy if thats the case of what my problem could be Im kinda pissed at myself :cry:

[jakeesspoo]

So now I'm googling this and im seeing that other people actually put sea foam in for winterization/storage but this is one of those things that could probably be argued. Im going to pull the carbs and clean them and put fresh gas in and see what happens minus sea foam.

[Hopper055]

I always try to put sea foam in every tank of gas I put through my small engines. I know it isn't good to let gas sit around but I try to keep my tanks topped up to prevent rust. In my opinion it has helped but as with anything ymmv. Also when I know I'm going to be letting anything sit I always drain the carb. I haven't had any problems yet. I'm about to wake up a few trikes from hibernation in the coming weeks. Hopefully it works as well as it has in the past. I would much rather deal with draining old gas than fixing rust problems.

[El Camexican]

Next time you want a quick cool weather start try pulling the air filters and shooting a little WD-40 into an open carb and leave the petcock open for at least 2 minutes before pressing the button. They should fire instantly on the WD-40. If they fire for a few seconds, but don't run your carbs may need cleaning.

[arlaunch]

Do you have the ability to buy non ethanol gasoline in your area?

1 article about that crap and you will never put it in a small engine again. Ethanol separates from the solution in around 90 days. It loves to eat plastic and is hard on about everything.

If you can use non ethanol gasoline/ Stabil and drain the carb it may save you a lot of frustration in the future?

[fixer2u]

I have been using the blue stabil meant for marine applications in all my long term storage for trikes, other atv's antique tractors and wave runners. It is hard to find non ethanol gas around here so sometimes I have to settle for 10% ethanol. That stuff is just nasty on older equipment. Like stated earlier it destroys plastic, eats through cork gaskets and worst of all it attracts moisture so when everything separated you have pure water in contact with the insides of your fuel tank, lines and carb. This can cause bursting issues in fuel lines and carb bowls. I have been running the blue stabil for a few years now and everything seems to start better when cold, idle better, and run cooler. Especially when combined with Good ol non ethanol gas. Just my 2 cents from experience.

[Jd110]

Do you have the ability to buy non ethanol gasoline in your area?

1 article about that crap and you will never put it in a small engine again. Ethanol separates from the solution in around 90 days. It loves to eat plastic and is hard on about everything.

If you can use non ethanol gasoline/ Stabil and drain the carb it may save you a lot of frustration in the future?

Some call it AV gas or aviation fuel here. It's only at one station in my area. It's the one next to the airport. They don't advertise it. I believe it 92 octane and they sell it as their premium gas, for like 15 cents/gal more. I know it's a pain to drain, but does anyone drain it out?

[AK47KID]

Next time you want a quick cool weather start try pulling the air filters and shooting a little WD-40 into an open carb and leave the petcock open for at least 2 minutes before pressing the button. They should fire instantly on the WD-40. If they fire for a few seconds, but don't run your carbs may need cleaning.
What does wd40 do? I thought it wasn't flammable

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[muthey]

What does wd40 do? I thought it wasn't flammable

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shoot wd40 into a bnfire for a couple of seconds and you will see how flammable it is, mind you I said a couple of seconds as you don't want the flame coming back up to your hand either.

[muthey]

I never use sea foam in anythong I actually purchase a yamalube fuel additive that helps neutralize the effects of ethanol. one teaspoons treats 10 gal and I buy a 1 quart bottle for 13$. The stuff works great, anytime I deal with a machine where seafoam has been used I am always pulling the carb apart and cleaning it. Just my $0.02

[El Camexican]

What does wd40 do? I thought it wasn't flammable

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That bit of misinformation may have come from a Barnett post a couple years back where I recall he was arguing with me that it no longer was a flammable product. The cans I have still burn just like muthey pointed out.

A guy named Rick Ward (former Byron Hines apprentice) told me to shoot some into my cylinders when race day is over to protect the engine until the next race. It's also great starter fluid as it has lubricating properties unlike ether, or camp stove fuel.

[AK47KID]

That bit of misinformation may have come from a Barnett post a couple years back where I recall he was arguing with me that it no longer was a flammable product. The cans I have still burn just like muthey pointed out.

A guy named Rick Ward (former Byron Hines apprentice) told me to shoot some into my cylinders when race day is over to protect the engine until the next race. It's also great starter fluid as it has lubricating properties unlike ether, or camp stove fuel.
Wow, thanks I just learned something I'm probably going to use for the rest of my life

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