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Scootertrash
03-26-2016, 07:49 PM
I'm gonna need colored bolts for a build. I'm not really sure I like the anodized look for this build. Is there enough tolerance in the bolt/powder coating combo to coat the bolt/screw heads and still have room for the wrench to fit? Probably be allen or torx heads.
El Camexican
03-26-2016, 08:20 PM
You'd have to touch them up with a brush afterwards. If you do go for it I'd suggest socket caps as the exterior would stay decent, but you'd need to make sure the underside of the bolt didn't get coated, or the exterior will peel off when you tighten them. I have a few pails of PC bolts I use to protect threads when I do frames few are perfect after use.
In saying that the right guy with right fixture may be able to give you a really nice light coating and then if you sand the Allen keys down a little smaller to allow for some PC space you may get lucky.
Scootertrash
03-26-2016, 10:36 PM
So maybe anodizing might be a better option? How dark could a person get a black anodize?
yaegerb
03-26-2016, 10:45 PM
I have tried to powder bolts and they look great until you tighten them. El is right on the money with using Allen heads if you wanna go this route. Those will still crack but will be less noticeable. Anodizing is a great option if you are trying to color match your bolts to the motor.
tripledog
03-26-2016, 10:55 PM
So maybe anodizing might be a better option? How dark could a person get a black anodize?
Obama ish.
350xtrike.rider
03-26-2016, 11:05 PM
More like bill cosby-ish....
onformula1
03-26-2016, 11:13 PM
So maybe anodizing might be a better option? How dark could a person get a black anodize?
If you change the bolts to aluminum then you can anodize them, which I recommend because it make the much harder/stronger.
PC is great, but I was skeptical on PC on bolts, I have a gun and two ovens and a buddy that wanted to PC every bolt, valve covers, brackets and intake on a Z28 LT1. Everything was great, except the bolts- the hex, allens and torxs chipped the PC upon install because PC is very hard and unforgiving. You can touch them up like El Camexican said, but I would not do it on a trike that gets worked on a lot.
Note- never PC a shock body or anything with exposed threads.
Silver, yellow, blue or black Zinc or Nickel is a good way to go.
El Camexican
03-27-2016, 01:58 AM
If you change the bolts to aluminum then you can anodize them, which I recommend because it make the much harder/stronger.
Good point, cad plating, or black chrome would be the only way to do steel. Is there a black cad process?
Pro Bolt sells aluminum in every color of the rainbow, TI too, but $$$$$ dang! SS socket caps hit on the buffer are the best bang for the buck, you just have to use anti-seize on the threads going into aluminum and if you feel ANY weird resistance while threading them in, stop, back it out and if the threads are anything but perfect toss it in the trash, chase the hole with a forming tap and try a new bolt.
onformula1
03-27-2016, 02:16 AM
Good point, cad plating, or black chrome would be the only way to do steel. Is there a black cad process?
Pro Bolt sells aluminum in every color of the rainbow, TI too, but $$$$$ dang! SS socket caps hit on the buffer are the best bang for the buck, you just have to use anti-seize on the threads going into aluminum and if you feel ANY weird resistance while threading them in, stop, back it out and if the threads are anything but perfect toss it in the trash, chase the hole with a forming tap and try a new bolt.
Aluminum bolts are cool, but best for rad. shrouds, side panels and fork guards, ETC.
Black chrome is not the same since the EPA removed cyanide from the process, unless you have the work preformed in Mexico. (No joke)
SS is cool and polishes nicely, BUT anti-seize if a must or you get galling with SS.
TI is fun and very light, but expensive and so strong it is almost brittle like glass.
Yes, you can cad plate in Black along with Clear, Gold, Olive Drab- other colors are possible if you can find a plater willing to do it.
Tip- with SS hardware run them through a die turned backwards and they will clean up nicely, buff them up with a 6" fine brass wire wheel on grinder or buffer motor.
El Camexican
03-27-2016, 02:24 AM
Sounds like black cad steel socket caps are the way for you to go. So what do these bolts go on? Are you and Logram doing a build off?:Bounce
onformula1
03-27-2016, 02:30 AM
Sounds like black cad steel socket caps are the way for you to go. So what do these bolts go on? Are you and Logram doing a build off?:Bounce
99.9999999999% of the time, you are very funny... This is NOT one of those times! :lol:
El Camexican
03-27-2016, 02:38 AM
99.9999999999% of the time, you are very funny... This is NOT one of those times! :lol:
If I were to promote such an event I'd tip the scale in Scooter's favor by insisting the vehicles enter and exit the stage on their own power.;)
onformula1
03-27-2016, 02:58 AM
If I were to promote such an event I'd tip the scale in Scooter's favor by insisting the vehicles enter and exit the stage on their own power.;)
My favorite part is "Tip the scale"... What does- enter and exit the stage on their own power mean??? If you seize before you hit the end of the stage you lose???
The "Don't Tread On Me" sticker alone would win the competition.
Scootertrash
03-27-2016, 07:45 AM
More like bill cosby-ish....
I woke up feeling violated.........
I hope that's pudding!
Scootertrash
03-27-2016, 08:26 AM
Sounds like black cad steel socket caps are the way for you to go. So what do these bolts go on? Are you and Logram doing a build off?:Bounce
I did some more research this morning, apparently there is a black zinc coating also. More research is needed.
I put my 85 Harley Low Rider under the knife last weekend, time for a complete makeover. I will be posting a thread in the bikersville section.
No build off at this time. I have however talked him to go into business for himself. Logjam Powersports LLC (Lame Limited Comprehension). The company motto will be "We bore 'em AND score 'em, saving you the hassle!" I think it has a nice rering to it, don't you?
I've convinced him (I know that sounds impossible) to retain the legal services of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe for any legal issues that may arise. Once we get a logo figured out he'll be off and running (or not).
tripledog
03-27-2016, 10:16 AM
Sounds like black cad steel socket caps are the way for you to go. So what do these bolts go on? Are you and Logram doing a build off?:Bounce
Are you trying to pitch Scooter's thread off coarse? He'll be fine, socket to him!
Scootertrash
03-27-2016, 12:05 PM
Are you nuts?
tripledog
03-27-2016, 06:31 PM
You guys are probably tired of my screwing with this thread, but I'm stainless the mods say otherwise.
tripledog
03-27-2016, 07:09 PM
Are you nuts?
Washer mouth, mister!
Scootertrash
03-27-2016, 10:01 PM
I'm trying very hard not to ratchet up my comments in this thread.
tripledog
03-27-2016, 11:07 PM
^^^ Same here, but I gotta bolt.
onformula1
03-27-2016, 11:17 PM
^^^ Same here, but I gotta bolt.
Watch it or somebody's going to powder-coat your bottom. :lol:
tripledog
03-27-2016, 11:44 PM
Watch it or somebody's going to powder-coat your bottom. :lol:
I wasn't torqueing to you.
onformula1
03-27-2016, 11:48 PM
I wasn't torqueing to you.
Ok, Sorry, I thought you wanted a knuckle sandwich, but then realized you are waiting for a Chubby Chuck. :lol:
tripledog
03-27-2016, 11:50 PM
Are the puns tapped out yet?
onformula1
03-28-2016, 12:22 AM
I am waiting for you to thread chase away.
Did we bottom tap out yet?
Maybe we should thread pitch this one?
tripledog
03-28-2016, 12:28 AM
Apparently the fastenation with this thread lives on.
onformula1
03-28-2016, 12:30 AM
Don't Thread On Me.
tripledog
03-28-2016, 12:33 AM
Don't Thread On Me.
Don't make me pitch slap you.
onformula1
03-28-2016, 12:36 AM
To plate or not to plate, that is the question..William Threadspeare.
tripledog
03-28-2016, 12:39 AM
^^^Kind of reminds me of a sad movie in which the leading actress Anodize.
onformula1
03-28-2016, 12:44 AM
^^^Kind of reminds me of a sad movie in which the leading actress Anodize.
Ok, enough nickeling around, what is the movie- A Bolt Too Far?
tripledog
03-28-2016, 12:48 AM
I'll bet Stevie Wonder Never-Seez this thread.
onformula1
03-28-2016, 12:50 AM
I'll bet Stevie Wonder Never-Seez this thread.
I hope Scootertrash never see's this thread..LOL
tripledog
03-28-2016, 12:55 AM
I hope Scootertrash never see's this thread..LOL
We've got 13 more pages and 48 pistons to go before Scooter gets upset.
onformula1
03-28-2016, 01:00 AM
We've got 13 more pages and 48 pistons to go before Scooter gets upset.
Maybe we should start a thread in the open forum called- "Lame sh!t 2 guys think is funny" With a little luck Mr. El Camexican may make it three.
48 pistons?, it is at 4 or 5 right now. Mr. Clean said 57, always trust Mr. Clean.
tripledog
03-28-2016, 01:07 AM
Maybe we should start a thread in the open forum called- "Lame sh!t 2 guys think is funny" With a little luck Mr. El Camexican may make it three.
48 pistons?, it is at 4 or 5 right now. Mr. Clean said 57, always trust Mr. Clean.
Perhaps I did more meth than math during my years at Screw U.
onformula1
03-28-2016, 01:11 AM
Perhaps I did more meth than math during my years at Screw U.
Washer yourself, plus meth is way more popular then math these days.
El Camexican
03-28-2016, 06:04 AM
Both you guys are nuts! You've cross threaded and stripped this thread beyond repair. I'll be surprised if Scooter doesn't tell you both to go screw yourselves and nyloc this thread when he sees what you've done to it! I'm backing out of this thread before someone thinks I've got a screw loose too.mymint87
Scootertrash
03-28-2016, 07:41 AM
Im just gonna bolt outta here before someone gets a little torqued!
El Camexican
03-28-2016, 10:18 AM
I guess I'll screw off too.
tripledog
03-29-2016, 08:29 PM
Both you guys are nuts! You've cross threaded and stripped this thread beyond repair. I'll be surprised if Scooter doesn't tell you both to go screw yourselves and nyloc this thread when he sees what you've done to it! I'm backing out of this thread before someone thinks I've got a screw loose too.mymint87
I'll admit, I don't have a Whitworth a dime, but a Grade 8 education doesn't get me too far. BSW.
Thorpe
03-30-2016, 12:31 PM
You guys are my kinda nuts... Slightly damaged, well rounded, greasy and at least 30 y/o!
Scootertrash
03-30-2016, 03:11 PM
Good to see you Thorpe!!
tripledog
03-30-2016, 03:33 PM
You guys are my kinda nuts... Slightly damaged, well rounded, greasy and at least 30 y/o!
So there IS some tolerance for this twisted type of humor.
Thorpe
03-30-2016, 03:58 PM
^^Dont get your nuts in the vise! This twisted humor is righty tighty, not lefty loosey....
Always good to be seen...!
AK47KID
03-30-2016, 09:18 PM
You guys are my kinda nuts... Slightly damaged, well rounded, greasy and at least 30 y/o!
Think I just threw up a little I'm my mouth...
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Thorpe
03-30-2016, 11:39 PM
^^ Real men will think it's helicool. If it causes you to get your under carriage bolts in a knot, perhaps you should go hang out with the plumber and his petcock... (I hear he keeps it loctite!)
onformula1
03-30-2016, 11:56 PM
If you are going to powder coat the bolts a set of these would be helpful.
https://store.snapon.com/Non-marring-Metric-Socket-Inserts-C754106.aspx
Thorpe
03-30-2016, 11:58 PM
Those are pretty slick! Wish I had those back when I was building street rods everyday....
onformula1
03-31-2016, 12:09 AM
Haha, that's how I heard about them, darn street rods guys and their pretty bolts!
There is a company that makes dedicated sockets with inserts built in too.
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