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SamT
04-24-2016, 09:58 AM
Hey guys I've been a 3 wheeler addict for most of my life, here recently I've got agitated that any new atv ends up in the shop and its atleast $600 to bail one out. I saved this big red from behind the barn and gave it a new life. It does my chores, sprays weeds, plays in the river, Ext. That's where this project leads.
I can't destroy its ability to do basic chores and spray weeds, but our river is mostly 6" deep water with lots of 2' spots and a hole here and there.

I've added 3.25 front lift and a 1.75" spacer to the rear shock. Also my tires measure almost 27" even though they are 25x12. My air intake is waist high on an average person and I notice in the videos a lot of 3 wheelers seem to float up front in deep water. Do I need more snorkel? I don't want to drown out if I accidentally fall into a deep spot.

My build thread is over in the new member area.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/178605-Outfitting-my-85-250es-for-a-big-man
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/sabraturner/7A5A7A2F-883E-4CA8-B170-5358DEC46EEC_zpsvfwnqtol.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/sabraturner/media/7A5A7A2F-883E-4CA8-B170-5358DEC46EEC_zpsvfwnqtol.jpg.html)
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/sabraturner/FF015C92-D500-46AC-9150-910CD754EEC1_zpshz0498rt.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/sabraturner/media/FF015C92-D500-46AC-9150-910CD754EEC1_zpshz0498rt.jpg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/sabraturner/0B01EF30-4223-4EF0-8BC5-B5502323EC68_zpsimszvpiu.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/sabraturner/media/0B01EF30-4223-4EF0-8BC5-B5502323EC68_zpsimszvpiu.jpg.html)

It still lacks a few odds and ends, but its shaping up from where I started.

86125m
04-25-2016, 09:39 AM
One looking good. I do not like snorkels because I think they give you a false sense of security. Really the stock air system should be fine unless you plan on using you big red like a boat.



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SamT
04-25-2016, 12:40 PM
I'm thinking the air box holds a couple seconds of air. What would the protocol be for shutting it down if you hit a deep spot? Kill it immediately? Gas it so the front goes nose up? Step off and let it float? I drowned a Polaris one time (little Toyota on huge tires sitting in deep water that looked shallow to me!) any ways it drove out of the water 10 seconds or more before taking water in.

dougspcs
04-25-2016, 05:21 PM
I've used my 250ES many times on trails with deep water..the usual protocol is stay on the gas and lean back enough to let the natural front bouyancy do the work. The steering neck stays out of the water and she can breathe!!

Usually up to 3ft of water before things get dicey.

The issue with snorkling a BR is a matter of geography..by that I mean, where to run the pipes?

I've seen guys plumb them from the box, along the tank side forward and up. A terrible idea..both due to the fact it restricts your arm on the handlebars and 2nd because you'll eat PVC if you wreck.

The second way is to run it back, which means cutting your trunk box since there's just no damned room under the back to run it.

I'd suggest leave it as is and practice your skills..once you get the feel for it you'll be fine.

SamT
04-26-2016, 07:58 PM
I've used my 250ES many times on trails with deep water..the usual protocol is stay on the gas and lean back enough to let the natural front bouyancy do the work. The steering neck stays out of the water and she can breathe!!

Usually up to 3ft of water before things get dicey.

The issue with snorkling a BR is a matter of geography..by that I mean, where to run the pipes?

I've seen guys plumb them from the box, along the tank side forward and up. A terrible idea..both due to the fact it restricts your arm on the handlebars and 2nd because you'll eat PVC if you wreck.

The second way is to run it back, which means cutting your trunk box since there's just no damned room under the back to run it.

I'd suggest leave it as is and practice your skills..once you get the feel for it you'll be fine.

Practice. That sounds like fun. Hopefully I get my loose ends tied up in the next week and can go give it a try.