Mounting tires manually

[Mackus84]

Finally got my new 18's for my 200X. Called a few places to mount them.... holy crap. $55 at the local bike shop, and between 15 and 20 bucks PER TIRE, the other places. Seems a little ridiculous considering i get my truck tires mounted and balanced for 12 bucks each... So im gonna TRY and do this manually.. any pointers? Or should i just bite the bullet and pay these thieves

[Queef Chief]

Be very conscious of which side of the wheel your bead relief is.
If your rims are super nice, take them to have someone else to do them.
Have u tried any lawn mower shops? Not everyone can do 8" wheels, but these types of places are usually better equipped for such small tires.
I bought a rim-clamp tire machine years ago for my shop, and it's one of the most used tools I have.

[Mackus84]

Yup. Didnt happen. Got one tire half way on in about 5 minutes. Then made zero progress for half hour. Taking them to a shop i found thats doing them for 7.50 each. Lol

[83ATC185]

I was determined to not pay the 15 dollars too lol. 2 hours later there we were in the yard with the 2x12 driving a truck up onto the tire to break the bead. Which failed so i had to go back to the tire shop that i just accused of highway robbery and hand the guy my tire.:lol:

Got one off by myself once though(2 if you count the one i burned off) but tore the bead of the tire trying to mount it. 15 bucks is cheap compared to a tire...

[Jmoozy27]

I use a bottle jack under the hitch of my truck to break the bead on the old tire. That's the easy part. Getting the new tire on is a task not meant for the weak at heart. Nevertheless I've been able to successfully mount every tire I've changed on my bikes and trikes. Never had one that didn't piss me off though.

[yaegerb]

My local Walmart will do them for 5 bucks a piece. I would run by there and see what they can do.

[Mackus84]

I use a bottle jack under the hitch of my truck to break the bead on the old tire. That's the easy part. Getting the new tire on is a task not meant for the weak at heart. Nevertheless I've been able to successfully mount every tire I've changed on my bikes and trikes. Never had one that didn't piss me off though.

I was thoroughly pissed within 7 minutes of trying. So made more calls. Got it done. Grand total of $15. Plus i tipped the guy 5 bucks bc it was a pain in the ass for him. Luckily i brought a hub with me, otherwise he wouldnt have been able to do it on their machine. Either way, done, aaaand DONE. $20 total. Definitely thinking i need a 22" tire up front though. Looks a little funny to me, but still much better. Here she is
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Edit** I HATE ATTACHING PICS FROM MY PHONE!!!!!

[Mackus84]

My local Walmart will do them for 5 bucks a piece. I would run by there and see what they can do.

Yeah they do here too but i called to check for sure and it was a lovely foreigner and there was quite a big language barrier. So i couldnt understand what the hell she was saying so i just took them elsewhere

[Mackus84]

232469 looks much better!!!!

[yaegerb]

yup, looks good. Still needs that 3rd gen R fender though :)

[Mackus84]

yup, looks good. Still needs that 3rd gen R fender though :)

I know it. R fender, decals, SS brake lines, and new levers, and shes done. And ordered 2 new front sprockets. A 13, and a 14.

[Queef Chief]

I was determined to not pay the 15 dollars too lol. 2 hours later there we were in the yard with the 2x12 driving a truck up onto the tire to break the bead. Which failed so i had to go back to the tire shop that i just accused of highway robbery and hand the guy my tire.:lol:

Got one off by myself once though(2 if you count the one i burned off) but tore the bead of the tire trying to mount it. 15 bucks is cheap compared to a tire...

I run an ATV repair shop as a second income to support my 3wheeler addiction, and have learned quickly that it is way easier to break the stubborn beads if you leave a pound or two of air in the tires.

[Jed]

are quads and the old big red get new tires fairly often, we have a white tail deer farm and all around the feeders where they gather it gets muddy with piss water and eats up the tires. we use our bobcat skid steer with pallet forks to break them down.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

You have to work smarter not harder to mount new tires. Mounting new tires is easy if you know how to do it and have some basic tire irons.

Breaking beads on the other hand can be a real struggle, especially with 30+ year old OEM tires that have never been off the rim...... That is the only case I use a shop or my father in laws tire machine if I am up there for a visit.

[Scootertrash]

You can dismount and mount them with zip ties. Motorcycle tires anyways. I may have to try it on some ATC tires I need to swap out. :naughty:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuXsIy1jMrE

[Scootertrash]

And mounting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI01yB8clSM

[tripledog]

The tire he removed was balder than Kojak. Back tires matter.

[fieldy]

I changed the last one i did real fast with hand tools. So i quickly removed it before anyone saw i put it on backwards.

[onformula1]

I have a buddy that has a tire changing machine, but Oscar Mayer told me that Discount Tire has the proper setup and charges $8 bucks.

[Scootertrash]

The tire he removed was balder than Kojak.

I suddenly have a craving for a cherry tootsie pop.

[El Camexican]

I had a guy down here that would change them for about $5 bucks, but we recently had a blowout.

(Someone had to say it before T Dog or Scooter did)

[tripledog]

I suddenly have a craving for a cherry tootsie pop.


Who loves ya, baby?

[brad_583]

what ever you do, when seating the bead do not use to much carb cleaner :eek:
did that while mounting my wife's tire last week.
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[Mackus84]

Damn!. That blows dude. I ended up taking them to a tire place i found for 7.50 each.
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[83ATC185]

I run an ATV repair shop as a second income to support my 3wheeler addiction, and have learned quickly that it is way easier to break the stubborn beads if you leave a pound or two of air in the tires.

That makes perfectly good sense now that you say that!

[86Rrider]

Believe it or not, but I have been changing ATV, trailer and truck/car tires for about 4 years now with a $45 manual tire changer from Harbor Freight. I think the biggest point with this tool is that I have it bolted to the floor of my shop. I have yet to run into a ATV tire I cannot get off the bead. I did find out that trying to seat the beads of new tires when it is 10 - degrees outside is very challenging! Rubber does not want to stretch at that temp!

[jb2wheels]

Believe it or not, but I have been changing ATV, trailer and truck/car tires for about 4 years now with a $45 manual tire changer from Harbor Freight. I think the biggest point with this tool is that I have it bolted to the floor of my shop. I have yet to run into a ATV tire I cannot get off the bead. I did find out that trying to seat the beads of new tires when it is 10 - degrees outside is very challenging! Rubber does not want to stretch at that temp!

x2 - worth every penny. I reinforced/boxed the bead breaker shoe so I could really put some weight on it. I put some anchors in my floor and only bolt the tire tool down when I need it and put it on a shelf out of hte way the other 363 days of the year...

[Scootertrash]

I had a guy down here that would change them for about $5 bucks, but we recently had a blowout.

(Someone had to say it before T Dog or Scooter did)


I hope you guys can patch things up *cough*

[Scootertrash]

what ever you do, when seating the bead do not use to much carb cleaner :eek:
did that while mounting my wife's tire last week.
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Lots better ways to seat a bead than carb cleaner or starting fluid..............

[yaegerb]

what ever you do, when seating the bead do not use to much carb cleaner :eek:
did that while mounting my wife's tire last week.
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Carb cleaner.......wut

[tripledog]

The high cost of mounting tires stems from greed. It makes the world go round. I may be a bit biased, but I have not been having a good year.

[fieldy]

I hope you guys can patch things up *cough*

Watch out though, things can get overinflated and explode. It doesn't take much of a prick to burst. What a gas.

[Mackus84]

Man you guys have me rolling so hard, bout to tire me out. Good night!

[tripledog]

Man you guys have me rolling so hard, bout to tire me out. Good night!

Tune in tomorrow for a chance to feel retired.

[El Camexican]

When having tire mounting problems I find it's helpful to use positive verbal enforcement.

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[Frankencelery]

I too have the cheapo Harbor Freight manual tire changer bolted to the floor in my garage. It was recommended some years ago by one of you guys, and it's been great. I admit that I don't like it as much for mounting tires as dismounting them. It's ok on stock steel rims, but on my aluminum ones I worry it will scratch them up, and I haven't used it on those in some time.

[fieldy]

When having tire mounting problems I find it's helpful to use positive verbal enforcement.

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If that doesn't help you get it on you could always find a better looking tire or...

[tripledog]

Zip ties... Whooda thunk? Finally, a chance of mounting something. Hope I don't end up on an episode of PSI Miami.

[fieldy]

Zip ties... Whooda thunk? Finally, a chance of mounting something. Hope I don't end up on an episode of PSI Miami.

Oh, get a grip.

[Queef Chief]

Oh, get a grip.

Oh "spare" me


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[fieldy]

Oh "spare" me


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Wheel do....

[jb2wheels]

I too have the cheapo Harbor Freight manual tire changer bolted to the floor in my garage. It was recommended some years ago by one of you guys, and it's been great. I admit that I don't like it as much for mounting tires as dismounting them. It's ok on stock steel rims, but on my aluminum ones I worry it will scratch them up, and I haven't used it on those in some time.

I've looked at all of these but haven't pulled the trigger yet:
http://www.no-scufftiretool.com/
http://www.nomartirechanger.com/Mount_Demount_Bar_p/tc-mdbar.htm
http://www.nomartirechanger.com/SpoonBar_16_inch_Cycle_Hill_Tire_Tool_Set_p/ac-sb16-set-org.htm
http://www.stubbytiretools.com/

One of those plus some kind of protection (Piece of rubber or plastic?) on the base would go a long way toward protecting the rims.

[fieldy]

what ever you do, when seating the bead do not use to much carb cleaner :eek:
did that while mounting my wife's tire last week.
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Since PSI is involved I'm going to have to pop the question. Did you use enough lubrication when mounting?

[tripledog]

Keep clear of the bead when seating a new tire. You could dunlop off a finger.

[JesseA420]

one of these along with a couple irons has made swapping tires for me a breeze. a bit pricey but it pays for itself.

http://atv.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BeadBuster-XB-450-AIMExpo.jpg

[Queef Chief]

This thread is not the least bit tiresome, but maybe I'm being bias.


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[Jd110]

Keep clear of the bead when seating a new tire. You could dunlop off a finger.

If your runnin dunlop, you've done been lapped. Hoosier daddy!

[fixer2u]

I know you guys are talking about saving money and all, but as mentioned earlier a good set of tire bars goes a long long way.

As far as breaking the bead goes, we bought this tool a few years ago and it is amazing. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200322827_200322827

I have changed tires on several ATV's, lawnmowers, hay wagon and tractor tires filled with calcium chloride that has not been off the rim in 50 years and this tool made short work of breaking the bead. Just spray a little PB Blaster or really soapy water around the bead and boom, you will have that bead broken in less than 5 min.

[tripledog]

Thanks for the link, fixer2u. I have to replace the rear tires on my 1945 Farmall M, and now I have an excuse to buy another tool. I would likely have to pay someone more to change my tires than the cost of the bead breaker, not to mention that I have many other tires to change.

[El Camexican]

No posts for over 5 hours? It was starting to look like this thread had lost traction.

[fieldy]

In a rut......

[tripledog]

No posts for over 5 hours? It was starting to look like this thread had lost traction.

You're not michelin much.

[El Camexican]

It's been a good year for joking around on here.

[Jd110]

Road block. Buckle up for another screeching halt.

[Jd110]

Wait. Where'd it go. That sounded fishy trip. Must have been a detour
To answer your question "kenda 200s forks fit on a 200es?" Don't think so...but I could be wrong again

[fieldy]

You're not michelin much.

Tubeular dude. Bounce

[tripledog]

Wait. Where'd it go. That sounded fishy trip. Must have been a detour
To answer your question "kenda 200s forks fit on a 200es?" Don't think so...but I could be wrong again

I removed the comment. After reading post #54, I thought perhaps you found it offensive.

[Jd110]

Sounds like a detour down a bumpy road. I find as I get older I choose smooth sailing. Hope you have fun with your kind spirited comments. Peace to you, good buddy

[83ATC185]

Yeah you guys keep me rolling :lol:

[redsox]

timing on this thread coincided with a Big Red refresh, including new skins, so i figured id show off my tire changer. 232617232618232619232620

Its a few pieces, but it works the nuts, and you can make one fairly easy. Its pipe and square stock. A little welding.
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A little lube, and she pops right off. I pulled all three (two ancient wooly boogs and a newer Deestone) in about twenty minutes
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[Scootertrash]

Thanks sox. :shiftyeyes: It's not like I don't have enough projects already!

[Frankencelery]

Ok, I have to share this. As I've mentioned earlier, I have the Harbor Freight manual changer, and it does ok on stock steel wheels. But on my SX, I have the Douglas red label aluminum rims, and I don't trust the HF changer for this. Or maybe I should say I don't trust MYSELF for this. The aluminum gets messed up too easily. So I took it too our local tire shop, and I asked them if they could change it (which they did before when they were under different ownership) WITHOUT scratching and gouging up the rims. They said they couldn't, and suggested I take it to Country Cycle, the local motorcycle/ATV shop.

Well, Country Cycle and I have history, and I usually avoid them, but I wanted these tires done this weekend. So I asked if they could do them, and they said MAYBE they could get them done today, and it would be $37.50 if I bought the tires from them, and $42.50 if I bought them somewhere else. FOR EACH TIRE!

In the immortal words of Lynyrd Skynyrd, "...and you could hear me screaming a mile away as I was headed out towards the door"