New shop

[plastikosmd]

Well it is time to build the toy/tool barn.

This is my humble shop site
Www.plastikosmd.com

So the barn is 50x60. The rear metal shop is about 25x30. Above that metal shop will be the wood shop. The rest of the space will go floor to rafters, all open (for automotive work etc). Rear right corner behind beam is welding and fab. Upper woodshed will have stair and a garage door for access to use forklift to lift larger projects and tools up there. We will have 3phase and 110/220.
Here goes...
Moving trees
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/FullSizeRender_zps0d25jrxq.jpg

Site
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20151107_074315_zpsy426t0ym.jpg

Excavation
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160421_133552_zpsfrb4shye.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160422_182315_zpsdvx7zvdw.jpg
Foundation in, 200 truckloads of fill
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160610_160342_zpsyxcl9vmg.jpg
Rear, covered apron site for blacksmithing and storage
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160611_073911_zpsvmqtdnut.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160611_073936_zpszgnfknfs.jpg
The BR checking it out, front doors are 18'x10' each
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160611_074120_zpsfoejlsxl.jpg

[El Camexican]

That's looking to be one heck of a nice shop! Any plans for heating pipes in the floor? Please keep us posted!

[plastikosmd]

No we have radiant heat in cabin. I don't care for it. Heat in garage shop via 2 big blowers. 2 smaller shops will have heat and ac via mini split systems

Beam was needed for part of a roof support, plan was for laminated. I upped it to steel and added 1 ton static load capacity for some lifting if needed.

[El Camexican]

Interesting. I loved it the few times I had to crawl under something at -30

Have you ordered your metal yet? Prices are way up since March. They may be topped out now, but I doubt they'll go back down for I good while.

[atc007]

Price increase in late may,another coming in June. If you haven't ordered,do it Monday! I just roofed my Parents house, 26 Gauge, $2400 all in . The 2 places I always use,were $3700 ish... First time in my life I ever hit it "lucky" at the right time. Can't wait to see this unfold! Thanx for sharing!

[plastikosmd]

This will be stick construction. I have a builder, it is all spec out with fixed price on my end except for outside spec.

Garage will be heated, no doubt. Radiant is ok but with a lot of overhead space and unreliable power during storms at a second home where we have to deal with generator issues already, radiant is not worth it.

[redsox]

wow. awesome man. looks great.

[plastikosmd]

Thx!

Open to recommendation on epoxy garage shop floor.

Will keep the crawlers off it but metal will drop on it, etc.

I have a green epoxy in my gun room. Shiny and easy to sweep but scratches easy (not down to concrete) it just leaves lines in the nice surface.

Maybe something matte? Open to color also. Probably not white, black I will step in oil and end up on the floor. Maybe grey? I have 0 experience in this

Thk u

[Scootertrash]

This will be stick construction. I have a builder, it is all spec out with fixed price on my end except for outside spec.

Garage will be heated, no doubt. Radiant is ok but with a lot of overhead space and unreliable power during storms at a second home where we have to deal with generator issues already, radiant is not worth it.

Looks like you got a nice start and a great plan. I'm still planning mine out, mine is planned at 40X80 :naughty::beer:Bounce I've never poured a pole barn floor for anybody that said "Gee, I wish I would have made it smaller"
A lot of my tooling/equipment will be on casters so I can roll stuff out of the way when we have Disco/Twister parties. The ultimate would be a Batman style turntable for the bikes. :naughty::beer

As far as epoxy coatings, you need to let the concrete cure out for at least 30 days to let the moisture evaporate. DO NOT LET YOUR CONCRETE GUYS SEAL THE FLOOR WHEN THEY ARE DONE FINISHING IT!!! You don't want to have to strip the sealer before you apply epoxy. Keep any machinery that drips oil/hydraulic fluid off of the concrete before it's epoxied. The concrete has to be clean, clean, clean! I have had and heard varying results with the box store epoxy coatings (Home Depot/Menards/Lowes). Personally, I would hire someone who specializes in epoxy coatings to do an area that big, and I'm a concrete guy. ;) They know what they are doing, and you should have a warranty if they are a respectable company. Check references and don't take the cheapest bid. You get what you pay for. Ask them about how to prep/protect your concrete for them to make their job easier to ensure a quality end result. Order them Pizza for lunch and maybe have some beer (and Gatorade or pop for the non-drinkers) for them at the end of the day. ;) It's cheap and us construction guys appreciate it more than you know! You don't have to get them drunk, but a coupla beers after a hard days work can't be beat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja7_1uv0FU4


When you say you're not impressed with radiant heat, are you talking electrical radiant? Or Wirsbo liquid style?

[plastikosmd]

Good advise thk u

[Dirtcrasher]

Simply awesome!!

As years go by, I know I want a 30 x 60 building or larger. I need a home for my backhoe, Toyhauler and projects as well as anything Ethanol killed weed-whackers and mowers, chain saws, etc etc. It would be great to have a rooftop gas fired HVAC system. Indoors would be chicken, just some spiral pipe that steps down and has registers at a 45 degree angle. Sometimes a rooftop unit brought in with duct is cheaper and easier.

Then the other shop can be the machine shop; Or, I stuff it all in the big pole barn or whatever (I have to do it all myself so there are limitations). Then the 16 x 20 turns into FULL ON GARDEN HOUSE!!

I hate that crap around my trike stuff anyway!

Anyhoot, that's great for you! Now you can have a great big shop for everything and the wifey should be happy.

Looks like it will simplify stuff being all in one place for you.

Enjoy!!

[plastikosmd]

Working towards that dirt. I never fix anything now as tools are not with me on weekends and mon-thur I am useless at home after a 230am-7pm workday

[plastikosmd]

Ix-nay on the epoxy

Had a great installer come over. Very honest. For what I need, he said to polish, seal, and burnish. (That glass like look when u go into a large box store w/ shiney concrete floor.)

More affordable and really what I need

[plastikosmd]

Coming along,

Metal shop to left, woodshop above it with roll up door to lift the bigger projects out with forklift, automotive and welding for rest. Blacksmith out back
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160715_171339_zpso7gakgwa.jpg
doors are 18'x10' each for reference
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160722_164948_zps12d9huzh.jpg

[El Camexican]

Great! Enjoy it!!!!

[fabiodriven]

That's absolutely beautiful man!

I've never been a fan of radiant floor heating. I could see it in addition to another heat source but just to rely on solely I don't think it's great for a garage. I'm not speaking from experience here and I'm sure it's great to lie on to get under something, but I feel as though when you opened the doors in the winter you can kiss your heat goodbye for an hour or so.


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[plastikosmd]

Amen, I have it in the cabin. Don't care for it as primary source. We are going w 2 big modine blowers in garage and 2 mini split heat/ac units in smaller shops.

[Scootertrash]

OK, So I was going to give some input on radiant heat, but I never got an answer to my question (no offense intended ;) )


When you say you're not impressed with radiant heat, are you talking electrical radiant? Or Wirsbo liquid style?

Wirsbo is the plastic tubing with an antifreeze type solution that runs through the system.

I'll update this post in the morning. I just go home from being out of town for a funeral and need to get settled back in at home, have a beer or three and do some general surfing. I've got some good info that may benefit anybody else that may be considering this type of out building. ;)

[atc007]

The big Dodge go in those doors? It is looking AMAZING !!!!

[plastikosmd]

Thx!

Scooter, the issue is in the cabin, the r value stinks so I think I am heating most of southern RI in the winter. I know that is not the rad. floor heat fault but it has me a bit soured. Also I worry about loosing power. We don't live here atm. So it would be a second system I would worry about freezing in the winter. Finally I may be mounting stuff in the floor, I don't want to worry about pipes. I do own a thermal scope that I can use to map out locations( if I had to). It is just easier not to have to worry. Sorry if I missed a reply. No offense intended!

[fabiodriven]

The big Dodge go in those doors? It is looking AMAZING !!!!

It's a Ford Bill! Lol

[redsox]

It's a Ford Bill! Lol

Same difference....

[plastikosmd]

U both are right. The Dodge sits a bit higher with the 37s"
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/ram%202500%202014/20150529_192837_zps4356af8w.jpg

[fabiodriven]

Yay! Everybody wins!

[sledcrazyinCT]

That sure is a nice building! Sounds like you already decided on concrete finish but I would recommend PALGARD from Pratt and Lambert. Two part epoxy that applies easily and does not chip or lift

[Scootertrash]

As far as radiant heating:

The rule of thumb is that 1 inch of foam = 1 foot of earth insulation-wise.

Wirsbo is the plastic tubing that uses an antifreeze type liquid for heating, and is typically fastened to a 2 inch foam insulation bed immediately under the concrete. This results in the tubing being embedded in the bottom of the concrete slab

Up here what some people do is put the 2" foam with the Wirsbo tubing under 6-12" of sand. The sand acts as a large heat sink, because sand holds heat very well. Another thing people do is put 2" foam 2 feet down and 2 feet out from the foundation, in the shape of an "L", for lack of a better description. This is to keep frost from creeping under the foundation. Up here the average frost depth runs to about 4 feet, I have seen as deep as 6 feet depending on snow cover. Temp sensors are embedded in the sand to control the system heating cycles. Recovery time for heating the concrete is supposedly faster because of the massive heat sink under the floor. Recovery time for room temp is going to vary depending on the type of room you are heating. Obviously room temp in a living area will recover faster than a pole barn/garage type scenario where you may be opening a garage door. Of course the insulating value of your walls and ceiling are critical to recovery time also.

The other benefit to this type of installation is the ability to drill, saw, whatever into your floor should the need arise without destroying your heating system. ;) The tubing is also deep enough so that if a person needed to install a recessed floor area, like for some types of machinery, you can pull that off too without having to reconfigure the system.

My plan when I do my pole barn, 40 x 80 with 14 ft side walls is the current planned size, I want to have one large door that would accommodate a motorhome whether I ever own one or not. Even if I never own one, the ability to store one would be a great selling point in the future.

In addition to the radiant heat install I described above, the walls and ceiling will be adequately insulated, and I plan to have those plastic loading dock type curtains installed just inside the garage doors to help prevent massive heat loss when one of the garage doors is opened. They will be installed like a shower curtain so if I ever want or need to completely open them up it's possible. That way I can roll a wheeler or sled out through the curtain without having heat escape thru the huge opening of the garage door. I may have the radiant heating on zones in case I want some cold storage area with the ability to heat it if wanted or needed.

I plan on using Geothermal as a heat source, and I will connect the house to Geothermal at the same time to cut down on propane costs. While we currently have a fireplace on 2 levels of our home and I plan on have a wood stove for back up in the barn, I really don't want to HAVE to cut firewood when I'm 70. While I'm not a global warming believer, Geothermal will be more environmentally friendly and also a nice future selling point.

[atc007]

It's a Ford Bill! Lol

I LOVE the Ford, but I WANT the Dodge ;)

[plastikosmd]

Great info scooter. No way for me to know what was done in cabin.

[coolpool]

Beauty shop plastik! Wish I would have seen this before the concrete was poured as this may have been an idea to think about. In a shop where I used to work, there were railroad tracks imbedded into the concrete to bring the D8's in to work on. They only stuck up a 1/4" or so they weren't a tripping hazard and the tops are convex so sweeping was easy; but they kept the cleats up and didn't wreck the concrete. Straight in and out was all you could do though. Heavy timbers on the floor will work too if you need to walk it in.

[plastikosmd]

Ugh, that would have been a great idea!
Timbers it is then

[Jd110]

Ugh, that would have been a great idea!
Timbers it is then

An alternative would be "1/2 thick, rubber strips. Similar to a conveyor belt.
We use 4-16" wide x 8' long. Allows the JD350c in the shop w/o floor damage.
Nice shop!


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[plastikosmd]

Perfect idea, thank u

[plastikosmd]

Upper shop
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160731_084743_zps3lmqwl1c.jpg
Lower level http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160731_084830_zpsfv6cvuaa.jpg windows in. U can start to see a hint of the color we chose.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160804_140659_zps22uivrvj.jpg

[Dirtcrasher]

Hi Mr' Leno :D

[plastikosmd]

Lol, I wish. Just a big garage :)

[El Camexican]

Can't wait to see it filled up:Bounce

[Jd110]

I like the access hole to the upper shop(fork lift?). Very nice design!

[plastikosmd]

Yep, fork lift. Tho maybe limited to 6ft forks. Tipping up will help. Looking at it now a beam with a trolley would be cool but I think the top of the fork mast/fork stop may hit so I will stay with forks.

[plastikosmd]

Weather vane in, waiting on copper roof
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160819_121406_zpsdua4qymf.jpg

Doors in but wrong install. Should be high lift, following ceiling
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160819_071911_zpsn8w0gkkr.jpg

Coming along http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/20160819_072348_zpswq8qbffb.jpg

[fabiodriven]

They gonna put the right doors in? That's a big oops.

[Jd110]

They gonna put the right doors in? That's a big oops.

Ah-it happens. The big question is how the installer deals with it.
Rights doors-wrong track configuration?


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[plastikosmd]

Yes, right doors, wrong track configuration
Builder will fix

[Billy Golightly]

Just out of curiosity since we do not have to deal with that much down here - it looks like that was basically filled in on the side of that down hill to make a pad for the foundation the structure. What do ya'll do afterwards to prevent erosion and it all from washing on down the hill? Any kind of a retention wall, or cover it with boulders and rock like drainage basins, or the grass holds it all together enough, or ?

[plastikosmd]

One small area will require some boulder work for erosion, rest will have a gentle slope and be seeded

[czac]

Well it is time to build the toy/tool barn.



So the barn is 50x60. The rear metal shop is about 25x30. Above that metal shop will be the wood shop. The rest of the space will go floor to rafters, all open (for automotive work etc). Rear right corner behind beam is welding and fab. Upper woodshed will have stair and a garage door for access to use forklift to lift larger projects and tools up there. We will have 3phase and 110/220.


where in New england are you?I wanna come live there!

[plastikosmd]

Lol, not far from you, Rhode Island

[plastikosmd]

Some pics inside today, drywall up. Few weeks away now

Track fixed
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/C02F6A34-F873-4B2E-9A29-AD9443F4A10F_zpsofgepvlg.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/31740E48-0E1F-406C-94A4-216F43551A7A_zpsghublisp.jpg

[El Camexican]

Looks great, but what I want to see is what you end up storing in there!

[plastikosmd]

top left will be the wood shop, bottom left is metal shop (where the monster lathe I just got is going-as posted in the vintage tool thread) that lathe is nearly 50% of the weight of my machine shop tools (23,000 lbs)

[plastikosmd]

Rear view of porch for dozer storage and blacksmith area

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/251C6709-E384-41B6-9B19-1CA57A93E4CF_zpsjgqcu1y7.jpg

Bit dusty but getting there
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/93FA3F16-24B9-4F69-983F-38D0865735FA_zpshzffnkrl.jpg

[czac]

WOW!!! now that's a work space! very nice. whatcha gonna fill it with? cars or trikes? lol

[plastikosmd]

little bit of everything, trying to keep ahead of what I break mostly

[coolpool]

Looking good plastic! Are you mudding and taping or keeping it more on the "rough" side. By the looks of everything else I think I know my answer, lol.

[tripledog]

Nice job! I really like the the attention to detail, especially the cupola and weather vane.

[plastikosmd]

All mudded and taped. Apparently I agreed to texture coat the whole thing. I saw one room and had a seizure. I said scrape that crap off and quote me paint. Sigh more money but it looked like popcorn ceiling hell

[sledcrazyinCT]

Textured walls would be a nightmare never keep them clean. Good idea you called that off for your work shop

[Jd110]

Your shop is turning out super nice. The texture is going to hide the tape lines. Unless they did a superp job on the taping/mudding or you don't mind seeing the lines, not texturing might haunt you. I personally haven't seen popcorn in ages. Skip trowel is nice on ceilings but has valleys and ridges that will trap dust if it is done on the walls. A light orange-peel is what I see here anyways, along with a good paint(one that can be wiped down)Any drywall I see that is painted after taping shows the lines and the tape can pop up. Texture holds it all together. Just my .02 cents. Love the design.

[plastikosmd]

thx jd. they spent about 1 week sanding smooth so it should be reasonable
Here are the pics from today, first under the overhang, storage and smith area
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/365E5F7E-307A-4C5E-988E-A8EAA6DE876B_zpsvhjhoona.jpg
Paint started in automotive/fab area etc
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/54655F7D-28A2-44B4-952E-1386F793C60D_zpsq4rmswt3.jpg
Woodshop, door to left is access to attic for wood storage, garage door opens to main area for forklift access, dust collector pipe will come up on right side near window, through floor. Once again, dust collector home is down in metalshop in closet. I chose to just run pipe exposed, running along ceiling with drops to machines. (6 and 4" pvc.) While not as "clean" looking, I have had clogs before and I don't want to be digging up in ceiling.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/5B87F47C-AA34-41C2-A475-73962B355860_zps7qgzyvej.jpg

[Dirtcrasher]

Your shop is so big that you don't have to consider it, but I put a sheet of plywood 1" off the floor for the 1st 4 vertical feet, then sheetrocked above that.

I'm always smashing machines/tools/ladders into it. Works for the people that have a bit tighter shop.....

[plastikosmd]

Now u tell me!
Good thought
I probably will install some pegboard, maybe some metal where I cut and weld

[Jd110]

Hey you bet. It's evident you have skilled tradesmen building your place, along with your first hand knowledge. Once in awhile I'll send my opinion w/o knowing it all. Thx for being a gent. I'm sure your going to enjoy it.

[plastikosmd]

deere fits well under the overhang. a good place to drop off the backhoe attachment when I need to flail cut
2 crawlers and log arch will also be under there along with the blacksmith stuff
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/AF0E86F2-3CDB-4FEB-9B07-97974766365D_zps1es0knqj.jpg

[coolpool]

Now u tell me!
Good thought
I probably will install some pegboard, maybe some metal where I cut and weld

x 2 from what DC said. With the fit and fit and finish of that shop, 1/16" polished diamond plate aluminum panel would look awesome and protect the drywall.

[plastikosmd]

Move is done. Next is to start reorganizing, air lines and dust collection and electric/heat install.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/DEBB2787-C1DA-49A0-A40A-C6A776B93DA1_zpst9s7f9ie.jpg
I was a bit concerned with the "counterweights" when moving my rivett
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/EC7B7710-FCD3-4844-A0DC-EB58E93DFCB9_zps5nbgosb9.jpg
Monarch and rest in place
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/4961ABCC-04E6-4946-8464-D49A4DEE2534_zpslcyeobpf.jpg
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[Dirtcrasher]

God I love this stuff. I remember the excitement moving in the Bridgeport and the SBheavy10; I had to do them alone!!

[plastikosmd]

I did it all alone, once(the accumulation over years) to move it all again at once. Forget it. 6 guys, 3 days, 2 10wheelers and 2 6 wheelers. 3 trips each truck. Phew

[plastikosmd]

I have a small jib crane for the monarch. I put that up. I use a die cart that crank lifts for vise and stuff on mills, trying to work smarter not harder but I seem to still prefer to muscle stuff on and off. I ordered the auto lifts today.13k lift capacity each for a total of 52k. Wireless w pendant controls. Mobile column lifts, full height jackstands (swap out lifts for brake work and such) and bumper lift attachment for full frame vehicles, ie my pickups. With that you can drop down to lifting with just 2, one on each end. I have to fabricate something up to lift the crawlers, maybe a runway of a sort.

update
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/IMG_2649_zpshcl5qonv.jpg
stock image of column lifts
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/Rotary%20lifts/IMG_0102_zpsz1sewmre.jpg

[redsox]

so badass. i'm very jealous.

[plastikosmd]

finished the dust collection for wood shop. The
collector resides in metal shop below in closet. Controlled via remote. Nice and quiet

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/4CA33285-9043-44C9-90B8-8519554CF7DA_zpsw8e98udm.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/2C49247D-7F4C-4B52-A257-4C88F7A5E381_zps8eptcy66.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/17336A26-BABF-42CB-A644-BBAAC7E8E8A6_zpsot4prdpn.jpg

I also got most of copper run in all 3 shops for air. The fabrication area shows some of lines. Dust collecton pipe hides it in wood shop
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/CBF18FEA-C092-443C-BAE0-366E7CC9ED13_zpsembzmonl.jpg

[plastikosmd]

Bit of touch up painting to do. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/39E6973F-5011-4E94-AF81-1EDF53C87F60_zpsyzg8mvz8.jpg
Oil change not out in this crap, finally!
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/8ABFA237-BA76-4037-9252-6A2BA5634FE4_zpsnzw7pjrf.jpg
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[tripledog]

You have an amazing attention to detail, plastik! That shop is super clean and equipped to the gills. The craftsmanship looks to be top notch.
I like the old green metal cabinet with it's killer patina, and the fact that it has lived to see another day. Should you ever feel the need to throw it away, throw it my way...
The parting photo is picture-postcard worthy. The light blanket of snow, Christmas lights on the tree, and the light centered in the gable window are very easy on the eye. Your new shop has a style and character that belies its true age. Looks like it could have been there for a century or more. Gotta love timeless design.
At the risk of repeating myself, you do nice work!

[Scootertrash]

What he said ^

Awesome shop!! Mine will never be that spectacular. :(

[plastikosmd]

Thx, I'm sure I missed a few things. It overall it meets my vision. I did wrap the bottom 4 feet of the garage shop with plexiglass to try and keep the walls a bit cleaner. We will see how that works out.i should probably lay a bead of silicone at the top or something to keep dirt from going down the wall and behind the tacked up plexi...Hrm

[tripledog]

If you could prep the back of the plexi to accept the paint that you used on the walls, the yucky-pucky, bugs, and grime that may find its way behind the panels would be a non-issue. As far as sealing the plexi, were it my shop (where is that winning lottery ticket when you need it?), I would make a chair rail molding to cover any sealant.
Your table saw is likely worth more than my house. Just sayin'...

[plastikosmd]

Ugh, I was trying to avoid some work and not do a chair rail but I was thinking along the same lines. Sigh, u are probably right. That saw is a combo saw/shaper. I plan to add a planer/jointer combo in time. I got a few toys to sell before that.
That cabinet came free with the big arbor press beside it. It is FULL. It had several hundred pounds of broaching stuff( as shown) tons of endmills, taps, list goes on. I don't know what I would do without a cabinet like that to hold stuff

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/B3BEDC2A-CABB-45E4-B638-012478AC34CD_zpsa1oopbqy.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/1CDFB078-1D7D-45C6-B704-F0325E9D4F9D_zps3kxrlzs7.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/4A47C8AF-FC92-4AA7-9109-3A022DFD2C11_zpsje8c0p2w.jpg
Got to use the press tonight in rebuilding a lathe tailstock, overkill but it was smooth
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/D0854FB6-55A5-48AB-8A9A-3FF879D8C332_zpsjmz6fryc.jpg

[atcmatt]

Do you use this shop to earn and living or is it all recreation if you will? Looks clean as mate. Wish I had something similar!

[Scootertrash]

+1 on the chair rail. That would cover the seam between the plexi and the wall. Home Depot or Menards probably has some cheap chair rail, either that or a simple 1x2 with a recess cut into the board for the thickness of the plexi, since you're obviously a DIY kind of guy ;)

[plastikosmd]

Hobby shop Matt, I do fix some stuff and sell but mostly relaxation

I was considering an aluminum strip for rail.

[atc007]

Clearly, enough praise can't possibly be said about this "shop" lol. Congratulations,it is stunning. What got me is exactly what Triple eluded too. It's stunning beauty in that storm,but,,,it looks small. It is obviously a huge building,considering,but it just looks perfect where it lives. Just simply stunning.I would LOVE to see a pic of your home and shop/property in all it's glory. What a treat. Thanx again for sharing.

[Jd110]

Way to light it up! I love the new lighting technology. I bet it's nice to have all that room. It's awesome. Thank you for showing us.

[RoscoW]

Too bad you have the plexi already, there is a plastic product we called puck board that is used around the boards of hockey rinks that takes a ton of abuse, is coloured all the war thru and cheap.. I can only dream of a shop like that, Very nice to have the space to set up the different "shops". I hate having to clean up one project so you have the room to work on a different task.

Ross..

[plastikosmd]

Good thought on puck board. If this doesn't work out I will redo.
I dunno what I haven't shown here atc, here are a couple pics
Ranges
Old shooting shed before
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/0ce11742dc966ea27e53647831169be3_zpsd8ebc611.jpg
After
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/20150914_133855_zpskcbp6n6m.jpg
100 yard berm before
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/d741ae6728088dc87a37237375aa6d81_zpskmfxddbr.jpg
After
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/5f80122871ff1e903448865c38f70ad4_zpscb7c6b39.jpg
Pistol range before
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/6aaae7d50b371acebd52005c2357f94a_zpsxkkc84hc.jpg
After
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/52f32b44a53bbe28ca990fed4e9939ca_zpsa3dac712.jpg
50 yard shooting deck and climbing wall, more done now need to update pics
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/20160221_084919_zpsslqv7gxp.jpg
Trail work
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/cabin/9e58fe8a2b0e6b45767dfcd6f46463f8_zpsf9937b3f.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/cabin/9b5afe1fb09ba14690dd1756bb62e9f6.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/big%20red/20150117_143128_zpsacorwofm.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/big%20red/20150404_140300_zps9ssb8l1v.jpg
Cabin
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/big%20red/20151024_110507_zpsoirq7mjy.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/cabin/20160205_170121_zpss3q9pfuz.jpg

[coolpool]

Very nice plastik, you built my Loto-Max dream! Can I be your house boy?

I did cringe a bit when I seen rocks behind one of the target stands.

[plastikosmd]

4 hanging ballistic mats behind stand, 338 lapua has only made it into the 3rd. I don't shoot the bmg here. Trap is nice for lead recapture and casting
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/shooting%20at%20cabin%20and%20facilities/c328d47d84db41a0aadbb6ca30ccd945_zps9fb751a0.jpg

[atc007]

That bottom pic :).. I was wondering if the shop and home were close. A snow covered pic of both in the same shot? Asks the guy without a smartphone that doesn't do pics lol. You have an amazing place bud.

[plastikosmd]

Shop is not in that pic. That was last year. Shop would be just on other side of those trees, Thk u!
Back to chair rail, I wonder if I did it in blue for contrast how that would look. Maybe a mock up using painter tape...

[redsox]

Dude,,,, your place is seriously awesome. So so nice.

[hublake]

That picture of the house should be on a Christmas card.

[plastikosmd]

It was a cool pic. This was the other side of the field, barn would be just Beyond these trees
I love a walk in the woods as it is snowing or just after a storm. Quiet and serene
I need some cross country skis...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/cabin/20160205_173432_zpstpf15ckd.jpg

[Dirtcrasher]

What is that lathe an 18" swing?? :lol:

[plastikosmd]

24.5 x a bit over 6 ft or so. Lathe is maybe 12-14 feet long and 5 ft wide. Perfect for a home shop!

[plastikosmd]

Metal shop getting there
Overview
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/2AB2C859-33AE-4A4B-9770-03EF808F57C6_zpsvnu8qve7.jpg
Monarch 24.5x72
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/6FFAD81A-9B14-4611-9148-4B8CD93135B6_zpswphmrcib.jpg

SWI cnc mill and Hendy shaper, I may have a second one of these mills coming for free storage
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/C0A52E0A-038E-440B-B832-A1388CEB291C_zpsn9z0lcsn.jpg

Rivett 1020, Sanford grinder and Abene mill
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/57FA736C-3A64-4EE2-9C0F-60D851C9B327_zpsztzcqmin.jpg

Abene again, 9" southbend and 12ton arbor press http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/747DF87D-1FD9-49C8-9237-1C207D5B1CD1_zpsglo4kshz.jpg

[83ATC185]

Nice shaper! My dad has a G&E and that thing is unstoppable! You have some very nice machines!

Quick question, how did you move all this stuff? :lol:
We moved all of my dads stuff rolling it on pipes, egyptian style and it was not the most fun thing.

Edit: I see now you had a forklift...

[plastikosmd]

I moved it all myself the first time. One at a time over the years. Come along, pipes, pinch bars, drop deck trailer etc. for this move, no way. 6 people, 3 trucks, three days got it done

[plastikosmd]

First project
Nice to to be tripping over myself
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/DA99AA03-C82F-468B-81C8-83D567B3C19C_zpsrnve3g5r.jpg
Plenty of room to tune up the husqvarna!
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/851B8648-1898-4CBF-970E-4600DFAFE356_zpswixltktn.jpg

Next on list, 250 needs rear brakes,forklift needs mast bearing,3phase needs a bit more work, another cnc to install(maybe)

List is growing...

[plastikosmd]

So it was time to upgrade the drive in my 16-sfp. (it is the saw next to the tv in pic above) I am green with VFDs, I've never seen or operated one. The conversion was easy once I solved my over voltage issue due to my rotary converter.
This saw runs on 3 phase but it has a grinder and blade welder built in that run on single phase. Grinder and welder operate as they should. The only fabrication was the installation of 4 screws to attach vdf to the saw. I chose to use a single longer belt instead of moving the motor up in the case. The pivot shaft for the motor was long enough so that I just moved the motor outwards by swapping one trunion position.
Now I know nothing about how I should operate the VFD but on 60htz and a dull blade it friction cut though a piece of tool steel like, well a hot knife. Now I need to learn a bit more about running a VFD and what all the features are. Of course no post is complete without pics

VFD
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/DF293A11-178D-4212-970B-A140DCA84B20_zpsdwtdvey6.jpg
case with motor in new position, removed old reeves drive
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/4678D90D-B362-4BD6-B712-34D39C803A67_zpsznsyhhhw.jpg
tool steel friction cut with dull blade
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/16C3DD07-30A2-4997-9287-A7D5E913FBAA_zpsvjpxgpa6.jpg

[Ranvier]

Seriously awesome as stated several times above! I think your shooting shed is nicer than my shop. Your hobby shop is amazing!

[90nut]

If you have a rotary phase converter why the vfd?

[90nut]

Also, what arbor press is that? Looks like a greenard??? LOVE IT!!!

[plastikosmd]

The reeves drive was clunky in the saw. It was either take 2 weeks and tune it or take 2 hrs and convert it with more power and speed (friction saw etc) plus the vfd was free.
The 12 ton press is a famco (beige) the 5 ton one is greenard (green). A well spent 200$ including all broaches

[plastikosmd]

12 ton is a famco (beige) a brute, shown pressing the ram out of a tailstock im fixing
5 ton is a greenard (green) in garage shop, finer 'feel'
A well spent 200$ including the cabinet and all broaches, 2 of many drawers shown

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/D0854FB6-55A5-48AB-8A9A-3FF879D8C332_zpsjmz6fryc.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/B3BEDC2A-CABB-45E4-B638-012478AC34CD_zpsa1oopbqy.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/metalshop%20other/1CDFB078-1D7D-45C6-B704-F0325E9D4F9D_zps3kxrlzs7.jpg

[redsox]

12 ton is a famco (beige) a brute, shown pressing the ram out of a tailstock im fixing
5 ton is a greenard (green) in garage shop, finer 'feel'
A well spent 200$ including the cabinet and all broaches, 2 of many drawers shown
]

You must shop at a different Harbor Freight than I do. Very nice!

[plastikosmd]

Ya u ain't kidding, funny thing is I had to think twice about it, I also bought

The green shelf unit, most of the stock and all bolts and nuts on shelf for another 200

I almost didn't do as I didn't have time to pack it all up
He packed it for me. So glad I didn't pass on it
Took me 2 days to sort it all out
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/747F46B0-0166-4B03-A38F-EFACF54BE4B9_zps3z6sfwsr.jpg

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This is all hidden under the stairs going up to wood shop
I also have the compressor and rotary converter in there to keep things quiet
Those were both craigslist finds also
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/barn/7E5CD4D3-A78A-4186-A931-F1FB60C17115_zpsgbcdamz2.jpg

[90nut]

You are a man of many hats! I'll snap a pic of my greenard, got it for the same price, but without the "tooling" so i bought a lathe so i can make whatever i need to push things with. And the press is a back saver for changing tires. Great for bead breaking!

[plastikosmd]

I will have to post some of my bead breaker stuff, would love to see your press, I much prefer over my hydraulic press (only for max power and 0 control!)

[83ATC185]

now breaking beads is something I've never thought of doing with an arbor press! Will it do any tire or just car tires and such?

I agree i like an arbor press more than hydraulics.

[90nut]

I have used mine to break them on ANY tire I can hold up there. Just did two motorcycle tires last weekend. Best friends dad turned me onto it. And I do it with just the butt end of the ram. If the tire is really vulcanized onto the rim you have to do a little fanaggling with the angle of the tire to the ram. Secret is to keep a bit of pressure in the tire so it doesn't just collapse, (if they are really stuck on there.)

[plastikosmd]

Some arbor press stuff, bead breaker is the curved piece in back, close up in second pic. the large angle piece That all the tooling is sitting on is poor man's sheet metal brake
I agree w above that ram will work just fine though
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/famco%204c/A4480422-DB48-4459-B338-02AC4CC924CB_zpslaevzvwb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/famco%204c/81A742BC-0FAA-4AFC-B971-E327C10B85BE_zpsl3y82d7v.jpg

[plastikosmd]

Lifts delivered today. 52,000lb capacity (13k per column), 4 full height jack stands and attachment to frame lift from ends of vehicle(only using 2 columns to lift in that case). Lifts stand about 8' tall for perspective. Not lifting tractor to max height, just trying them out. Training tomorrow
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/Rotary%20lifts/7F2913BE-856D-4C75-AA97-3A5A2118F365_zpsckystrqo.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/Rotary%20lifts/46C32CDC-5FCB-4C75-9ADC-AEDBBCD4DD8A_zpsbphotjcg.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/Rotary%20lifts/73BDF2E8-6D12-443C-AA98-E97918EFC5F0_zpsb1ukd134.jpg
As simple as they seem, the jack stands rock. Perspective is poor in the pic. In the extended position, as I am showing-that is about 7' off floor. Spring operated lifts at wheels(once u put weight on it settles to floor, springing up to roll easy once weight is off). Also spring assisted center column so u don't have to lift center column to position. You can set height with 2 fingers, threaded caps at end for fine adjustments.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/Rotary%20lifts/4E52E2F8-A298-4ABE-970E-B9B5034932DF_zpsbtz3etdo.jpg

[sledcrazyinCT]

What brand are the jack stands? Do you have a link to where you sourced them? How does the lift sync to raise and lower in unison? Very interesting set up - nice to be able to push then out of the bay when not in use

[plastikosmd]

Stands are from rotary they have 3 heights available. These are the full height ones. Stand 5 ft, lift to 7ft.

Columns are wireless and cordless. They are controlled via remote as u walk around or by any of the columns. They sync and talk to each other, u may be able to make out the small antenna on top of each.

As noted I can also bumper or frame lift on ends with just 2 up to a max of 12k not the full 26k.

Rolling is why I got them, I hate the space a lift takes up. 2 and 4 post lifts each have their pluses and minuses. This was the best fit for me, allowing me the flexibility to lift everything I have, Argo to forklift to crawler. For the crawler I could get their runway system, basically making it a 4 post lift or I could make my own or put a spreader bar down the center and lift from end or use 2 beams and lift with all 4