Doing the stem adapter for the 70 to the 200

[Ol Deuce]

this is for using the 200x tree or the Sx or 1st gen R
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and now the 250Sx or 1st gen R
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Ol Deuce!!! :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[3wheelieo]

So lets see if i got this , remove my 185 stem carefully remove stem from 250r put my adapter in wee
Ld bottom like original drill holes in 185 stem to secure to adapter and basically done .right ? Easy thanks ol deuce

[3wheelieo]

So the oeiginal height of stem stays the same. bearings go on just like stock and the upper adjusting nut is shortened because the first gen r clamp is thicker right. I can still use the upper seal on adjusting nut too?

[Ol Deuce]

You can play with the stem height before welding to the lower clamp and also before ya plug weld the stem to the adapter !!!

[Ol Deuce]

you also can take some of thight away from the stem by cutting the bottom of the stem @ the adapter will hold the bearing race !!!!!!

[3wheelieo]

I got now thanks

[3wheelieo]

Stil not done got my new bearings yesterday .so saturday morning i will get it together .

[Ol Deuce]

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They do good !!!

[Ol Deuce]

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250r triple

[Ol Deuce]

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This is SICK 1st gen on a Klt200 LoL

[3wheelieo]

Wow man cool collection im jealous of your mill drill lathe in back ground . i still dont hsve it done . i broke 3 ribs friday night racing . not good. Very soon though .

[Ol Deuce]

Wow man cool collection im jealous of your mill drill lathe in back ground . i still dont hsve it done . i broke 3 ribs friday night racing . not good. Very soon though .

Oh No :eek::crazy::crazy: We got to get you to use the EJECT BUTTON sooner !!!!!! LoL:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce Take care of those ribs!!!!! but Keep us POSTED

[3wheelieo]

I will really puts me behind on the rest of the project being out of work for a week . lol i get hurt and still my only concern is getting my even way faster trike completed.

[3wheelieo]

Got it all done looks perfect .fits perfect . now on to the rest of the build . cant wait to race this thing .

[Ol Deuce]

Got it all done looks perfect .fits perfect . now on to the rest of the build . cant wait to race this thing .

Any pictures for us ????? always good to see the job 1 ........Ol Deuce

[3wheelieo]

Ivdont know how to upload one on here

[Ol Deuce]

Oh Ok !..............................:Bounce:Bounce:Boun ce:Bounce:cool:

[3wheelieo]

Im trying to figure it out check it out on face book . look for monk cox

[Brian313]

Ol Deuce... Love your work!

I recently acquired a 1981 ATC 200 (not "s" - the big one). It came with a period correct suspension front end conversion, but of course, it is cheesy, and the forks leak, and it doesn't fit together very well, etc., etc, etc. I'd really like to go with something more OEM like 200x or 250r. My dilemma is that I don't know what steering stem was used in this conversion, and whether or not it would work for your conversion. I do, however, have a set of 185s forks in the boneyard. If I'm understanding correctly, it appears that I could follow the instructions in this thread to use the 185s steering stem along with your adapter, and it would then bolt right into the 200. Am I on the right track?

Then, do you have a recommendation as to what forks/triple clamps would be the best solution for the "big" 200? My preference would be to use 85/86 250R as I already have forks and brakes, but Craigslist and eBay are always there if another direction is more appropriate.

Thanks!
Brian

[Ol Deuce]

Brian you can use the '85-'86r stuff...if the neck hasn't been changed with the races your good to go!!! your 185s stem will get the job done !!!! I need to make a mod to the adapter to fit the lower clamp ..
every thing else is the same !

[DohcBikes]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee143/OlDeuce/IMG_1358_zps922e882c.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/user/OlDeuce/media/IMG_1358_zps922e882c.jpg.html)What are the forks on this bike Randy? Street bike of some sort? Fully suspended 110/125 is definitely in my future.

[Ol Deuce]

What are the forks on this bike Randy? Street bike of some sort? Fully suspended 110/125 is definitely in my future.

Those forks are from a 1975 Elsinore MR175.......I used some .040 Aluminum for shim stock to fit to the 200x tree !

[gimmeamidget]

Very nice work Deuce!

[3wheelieo]

Yes he does nice work . my forks i used were from an 82 250r .looks really cool and works really good .i used tapered bearings on my build . im going to do this to my atc 200 in the near future .thats how well i think it works on my 185. Just a heads up if you dont want to cut your original stem off try to find a donor . check out pics at the start of this thread.

[DohcBikes]

Yes he does nice work . my forks i used were from an 82 250r .looks really cool and works really good .i used tapered bearings on my build . im going to do this to my atc 200 in the near future .thats how well i think it works on my 185. Just a heads up if you dont want to cut your original stem off try to find a donor . check out pics at the start of this thread.:pics::pics::pics:

[3wheelieo]

Help please help i cant figure out how to post them .i have pressed all the little picure things above this where you post . i need a teen ager to show me .

[Ol Deuce]

Help please help i cant figure out how to post them .i have pressed all the little picure things above this where you post . i need a teen ager to show me .

Are the pictures on your phone ???????? If you can text them to me I will post them for you:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:D:crazy:

[Ol Deuce]

This is a friend of Crazyktmmatt ! he put the R front on this 110 using the stem adapter!!! what a cool stance

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[3wheelieo]

I do ol duece and i can do that . i got crazy money in this build .seems like im always needing that one piece to go a step farther .but i only need a front tire and about two days of being left alone to work on it .a large pile of parts will dissapear quick. I saw your 175 x build on here randy and i am inspired as heck to do that to my spare x chassis .im thinking big bore stroker 125 . 1 project at a time or ill never finish .lol spring though for sure

[Ol Deuce]

I do ol duece and i can do that . i got crazy money in this build .seems like im always needing that one piece to go a step farther .but i only need a front tire and about two days of being left alone to work on it .a large pile of parts will dissapear quick. I saw your 175 x build on here randy and i am inspired as heck to do that to my spare x chassis .im thinking big bore stroker 125 . 1 project at a time or ill never finish .lol spring though for sure

I just got a DURO 20x7R-8 man what a good looking front tire for my Joker Project!!!!

[3wheelieo]

Im going 18 to match the hoosier 16 ". Im wondering what to run on my other atc 200 for an 8 inch front .not many options

[HairyJR]

Bought stem adapter from Randy last year to be used on the recreation project of my Valley Brake & Wheel Helm & Son 205 alcohol motor ATC110, sorry I sold, it’s a long ongoing process collecting parts. Temporally assembled on the frame to mock up my machining of the upper triple clamp to compensate for fork tube rake angle. As the 70, 90, 110, 185, & 200’s ATC steering stem / frame housings are @ ¾ inch taller than the 1st Gen ‘81 250r front end. Offset bored the upper triple clamp and machined the stem nut to register to this bore. Accomplished 2 things, allows the triple clamp to set flatter on the nut and eliminated the clearance of the original stem clamp bore.

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[Joseph Farrow]

Bought stem adapter from Randy last year to be used on the recreation project of my Valley Brake & Wheel Helm & Son 205 alcohol motor ATC110, sorry I sold, it’s a long ongoing process collecting parts. Temporally assembled on the frame to mock up my machining of the upper triple clamp to compensate for fork tube rake angle. As the 70, 90, 110, 185, & 200’s ATC steering stem / frame housings are @ ¾ inch taller than the 1st Gen ‘81 250r front end. Offset bored the upper triple clamp and machined the stem nut to register to this bore. Accomplished 2 things, allows the triple clamp to set flatter on the nut and eliminated the clearance of the original stem clamp bore.

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Jeff your HS 205 Replica Project looks Awesome!

[3wheelieo]

Hey thats how i did mine real nice fit like that . i almost made a bushing but after i started turning the nut it dawned on me i had the bushing already . cool trike bud .

[Ol Deuce]

HairyJR What a Neat Project your Doing and the wheels .....:D......Way Cool and a Great Job using the Adapter..;).......Love the show & tell:Bounce:Bounce

Ol Deuce:drool:

[HairyJR]

Randy one additional modification I made was not welding the adapter to the lower triple. Drill and tapped the bottom of the stem for a bolt with large flat washer, then drilled for a dowel pin to keep stem from turning. Didn’t have access to weldor at the time and wanted to assemble as seen posted above, trying to decide what color to powdercoat triple and frame. Build thread to come later after locating a few more motor parts and a white 250r 1st gen front fender. Oh the tires are NOS from the Farrow brothers and wheels from Jwheeler.

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[Ol Deuce]

I thought of doing something like that! Looks Great ! I really like your project..............Ol Deuce

[3wheelieo]

You mean to tell me i can get me some of those wheels!!!

[Ol Deuce]

You mean to tell me i can get me some of those wheels!!!

You can ..........yes LoL

[3wheelieo]

Thanks ol duece where at .

[Ol Deuce]

The wheels I was thinking about must have been sold! they were like HairyJR wheels on his project !!!

[Joseph Farrow]

You mean to tell me i can get me some of those wheels!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-NOS-Honda-ATC-90-110-ATC90-ATC110-PCCC-Mag-Wheels-Aluminum-6-Bolt-MX-AHRMA-/361728428762?hash=item5438b1cada:g:KRkAAOSwNRdX2JO H

[Ol Deuce]

We just did one for Hooper055 ............Love these custom builds ! they look awesome !!!!! Thanks guys
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[Dirtcrasher]

Randy one additional modification I made was not welding the adapter to the lower triple. Drill and tapped the bottom of the stem for a bolt with large flat washer, then drilled for a dowel pin to keep stem from turning. Didn’t have access to weldor at the time and wanted to assemble as seen posted above, trying to decide what color to powdercoat triple and frame. Build thread to come later after locating a few more motor parts and a white 250r 1st gen front fender. Oh the tires are NOS from the Farrow brothers and wheels from Jwheeler. :beer

Yes, thats called a Dutchman. I've done that to fix 350X cylinder heads with broken off exhaust stud castings.

They hold great with an interference bore/stem and a dowel pin.

Great work bud!!

[Hopper055]

We just did one for Hooper055 ............Love these custom builds ! they look awesome !!!!! Thanks guys
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Can't wait for this to make it's way here. For anyone thinking about a fork swap this is the guy you want working on it. Randy was very helpful answering questions and doing extra work to make this a bolt on part. Thanks agian Randy can't wait to post my own pictures here.

[Ol Deuce]

Anyone have more photos to post...........244229 this one uses the '81-'82R tree

Ol Deuce

[Ol Deuce]

244230 This has the adapter using 250Sx tree

Ol Deuce

[ZacH_GrifF]

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Another happy customer lol. 83-84r on a 185s.

[axeman24]

another happy customer
250sx on my 200s rat rod named "bad Boy"
completes the look im going for and handles great
simple enough install once you find the right height for the stem
fyi steering stops are in the same location i just ground them down a little to get more turning radius
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[Ol Deuce]

Way Cool Axeman ............Thank you !!!! Ol Deuce