View Full Version : 87 atc250r???? I think not.
deathman53
09-27-2016, 02:10 PM
Guy over here by work claims to have a 87 atc250r, I don't think so.
IMSROLL450R
09-27-2016, 02:13 PM
Get a pic of the frame tag on the neck.
deathman53
09-27-2016, 02:34 PM
He showed me a 1987 tag, but I know those can be reproduction
deathman53
09-27-2016, 02:38 PM
I am gonna look for the 87 specific items, key switch isn't there. I didn't see a resonator on intake also, black engine, doesn't look like oem plastic either
deathman53
09-27-2016, 02:51 PM
Edited........
DohcBikes
09-27-2016, 02:54 PM
It's not about those tags. Why won't this issue die.
The VIN is stamped on the frame, at the very front, on the neck. The 10th digit is the magic digit. That is the ONLY correct indicator of the year.
fabiodriven
09-27-2016, 02:57 PM
And even that can be made to be whatever you'd like it to be as well.
DohcBikes
09-27-2016, 03:02 PM
Yea not really likely. It'd be pretty obvious to anyone with a clue if the vin was tampered with. That's a lot of trouble to go to as well. Even then, the original vin can be recovered with a bit of knowledge about stamping.
Red Rider
09-27-2016, 03:20 PM
These pictures are always blurry for a reason.
Aulbaugh
09-27-2016, 03:22 PM
The story could be buyable from your friend but that vin will be the definite answer. I have my doubts looking at that picture its an 87. I would check for a few things you said earlier in your post about specific things the 87 had vs previous years. Definitely not the 87 sear cover. Maybe some other pictures of it too if possible.
deathman53
09-27-2016, 04:07 PM
Well.....not my friend ran into him. He says the frame is a 87, he has the key switch and reflectors, says has the intake w/resonator, but it is a copped build from parts, days he has original fenders that are really bad condition, I just talked to him and he says when he cleans out garage, I can see the vin......I told him that is the key to the fabled unicorn.
xrider
09-27-2016, 04:09 PM
Agreed. The stamped vin is the best way to be sure.
Aulbaugh
09-27-2016, 04:17 PM
Pretty cool, lets see what happens!
yaegerb
09-27-2016, 04:20 PM
I got 5 dollars on an 86 frame with an 85 motor, maier fenders and Pantera graphics. Any takers?
deathman53
09-27-2016, 04:26 PM
It was right in front of me, 85 swing arm, 85 headlight, motor out of 87 trx250r, looked like 85 foot pegs, I have to see the vin number and frame under the fuel tank for me to truly believe that is a 87 frame, at this point, it looks like a 85. Better even yet.....my co-worker says that in 86 and 87 his friend bought a 87 new from a Honda dealer.
yaegerb
09-27-2016, 04:47 PM
That picture is pretty bad, but the 1987 trx motor was grey, not black. Course it could've been repainted.
atc300r
09-27-2016, 05:50 PM
87 also had the blue seat with atc on it.235214
efhondakid
09-27-2016, 07:22 PM
I've seen the correct seat cover on 87 clones so if it was a true 87 and the OE cover did get thrashed why would you replace it with a non OE? Seems dumb to me but hey
El Camexican
09-27-2016, 11:14 PM
Close, but I'll need more...
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El Camexican
09-27-2016, 11:15 PM
87 also had the blue seat with atc on it.235214
Only the Canadian models had the blue seats.
atcmatt
09-28-2016, 06:36 AM
Not likely to ever find an 87 in America. I think the best bet would be in Europe or Australia. That's if any ever escaped the factory.
83ATC185
09-28-2016, 12:53 PM
ehhh my cousin's friend's dad's uncle's boss has 2. One in the crate and one he rides everyday but he won't let me take pictures of them.;)
Thus goes every 87R story ever told.
Aside from the motors and the replacement fenders, i don't think they exist outside of a few magazine articles and brochures...
Just wait. 50 years from now, they'll find an entire shipload of them at the bottom of the ocean, the only thing left being the rims and motor....
atctim
09-28-2016, 01:44 PM
If he can not produce white OEM ATC plastics - that is a big tell tail sign.
oldskool83
10-03-2016, 03:30 PM
shrouds are white maier. anyone can tell that, not a single crisp line on there.
RamsesRibb
10-05-2016, 04:22 PM
Well my story is this, back in 1993, a guy who worked with my dad made a trip to Canada to make a group buy from a Honda dealer that was closing. My dad said that they picked up 2 white 250R's with the sale which went to other coworkers. My dad came out with a 1993 Honda 350 4x4 which was also not sold in USA at that time. Never saw but my said he saw them when they delivered. He was told that they where never assembled and had just gotten unpacked and assembled whenever they where purchased. I was kind of upset he didn't tell me about it beforehand. He said didn't see any purpose for a two stroke.
fabiodriven
10-05-2016, 05:41 PM
Nooo!! RamsesRibb, say it ain't so! You had so much street cred building up, 3WW's most recent sweetheart, loved by the community and Glamy, and now this! NOOOOOOO!!!!
El Camexican
10-05-2016, 07:07 PM
Well Rams I know a thing or two about Canada and how the Gringos like to party when they come to visit. I also know a bit about shielding my kid from harmful facts, but I think you’re old enough to hear the truth now, so I've revised your story to better suit the likely reality of that trip.
Well my story is this, back in 1993, a guy who worked with my dad made a trip to Canada to “get wasted and party” at a “bar that just opened”. My dad said that they picked up 2 white “skanks” which went with other coworkers. My dad came out with “case of the crabs” which was also not “common” in USA at that time. Never saw them, but my dad said they “bit like pitbulls”. He told “told my mom” that they “came from a toilet seat” and had just “hitched a ride back with him”. I was kind of upset he didn't tell me about it beforehand. He said didn't see any purpose.
;)
RamsesRibb
10-06-2016, 12:17 PM
Whaaat??[emoji45]
I can't confirm any of what I said it was just hearsay. But my dad was the one who told me it. Don't shoot the messenger. That is pretty funny though.
Plus, I'll be honest, knowing my dad, they could've been Manco's. He probably did have his beer goggles on.
RamsesRibb
10-06-2016, 12:30 PM
Hey Camexican, did I mention I'm not really a gringo? I'm 3/4 French and 1/4 Spanish, and I traced my tree through Canada and so technically I'm Part Canadian.[emoji57]
El Camexican
10-06-2016, 06:44 PM
Hey Camexican, did I mention I'm not really a gringo? I'm 3/4 French and 1/4 Spanish, and I traced my tree through Canada and so technically I'm Part Canadian.[emoji57]
Cool! You should have gone with Camexspican, or Mexinadian instead of the name of an obsolete Canadian rubber.:lol:
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