"Liquid X"

[x-rider]

What was I thinking. In another thread DochBikes was talking about putting a water cooled engine in a 200x. I bought a liquid cooled engine off ebay. Looks like it will bolt right in, but will need a lot of mods. I thought that electric start and reverse is the route I want to go with my X. Anyways let me know what you all think.236105236106

[Matt85'350x]

Who makes the engine? How many cc's? Seems like a good idea to me!

[x-rider]

Not sure of the make. I believe zongshen or clone. 200cc. 4 speed with reverse.

[Rob Canadian]

This could get interesting. :)

[x-rider]

Sure will. I have a tig welder, and am a metal fabricator, so brackets and mounts should not be an issue if everything lines up. I think the wiring might be toughest for me.

[Dirty200]

IMO, OEM>anything. will be interesting though. if you don't want that old aircooled piece of junk Honda motor it came with, ill take it. :beer

[x-rider]

IMO, OEM>anything. will be interesting though. if you don't want that old aircooled piece of junk Honda motor it came with, ill take it. :beer
Sorry dude. Still rebuilding my motor just in case. Then I can hoard it for 30 years lol. Or I would like to build a 2 wheel conversion and stick it in there.

[oldskool83]

You can run a KX100 rad...they fit good and do not get mashed up. I had on on my kx100 trike i built. See attached as reference.

[x-rider]

I'll look into that. Thanks for the info.

[x-rider]

Well it is a tight fit and is going to require mount modifications. I think it's gonna fit though. Mocked up my dg exhaust, it should fit as well.236312236312236313236314236315

[x-rider]

You can run a KX100 rad...they fit good and do not get mashed up. I had on on my kx100 trike i built. See attached as reference.

Did you use a reservoir and radiator or just radiator on your build?

[Ol Deuce]

man what a good look......Like my SuperX build that push button start is way cool ! and Reverse Yes!!!! the battery box that will bolt is from the '86 to '88 200sx Quad!!!!!! Keep the good work up front !! Looka "Fine" :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce LoL Ol Deuce:D

[oldskool83]

KX100's do not have reservoir, just radiator and a over flow hose like most 2 strokes.

[x-rider]

KX100's do not have reservoir, just radiator and a over flow hose like most 2 strokes.

Thanks guys. Motor fits, just have to modify top mounts slightly, and do a little grinding on some of the bottom mounts. I had to cut a hole in the center of the skid plate to get to the oil drain plug. Still ordering parts so I'll keep u guys posted.

[Rob Canadian]

Great build on this. I love it!!!!

[350xtrike.rider]

What are you using for a carb setup?

[x-rider]

What are you using for a carb setup?I have my stock 27mm 200x carb, but am thinking about going to 30mm, I belive that is what's recommended.

[x-rider]

Great build on this. I love it!!!!
Thank you. It's starting to come together. Sure would like some input from Dochbikes. It was his idea after all.

[x-rider]

236440I had to grind off a tab on the motor as it was hitting the cross member under the motor. Also had to grind the front lower motor mount on the motor because it was hitting the frame. I don't have a pic of that right now, but I get one later.

[oscarmayer]

Chinese 250cc watercooled engine. about .5hp-1hp over the stock 200x. no mods available for it, but you can take the had off have it decked down a couple of thousandths to increase compression and that will bump you to 15-16hp stock instead of the 13.5hp. I have the 300cc version sitting on a shelf and been debating on doing something with it. good luck.
it will be a 1-off but the question is will it be worth it? only you can answer that. The CRF230F may have been a better choice due to it is a near bolt on and tons of support and also includes electric start. but you already got the motor so use it. worst is you run it for a few years then either sell the trike or swap the motor out.
have fun and enjoy! you may need to modify the mower engine mounts as they will probably not align up and hit the case.

[oscarmayer]

should be a 250cc. that is where the china started making water cooled. they go up to 500cc. I have the 300cc from TaoTao and an considering doing something with it.

[x-rider]

It was listed on ebay as 200cc. I thought it resembles the 250 as well. The engine is a 169ML, and not a whole lot of info about it on the net. Also comes up as a CG 200. Bummer is no kick start option.

[AK47KID]

I'll have to make a trip up to you X and see that build

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[x-rider]

Gotta get to the dunes!!!

[x-rider]

Motor mounts complete. Took some pics of the ones I had to modify. I got my exhaust mounted. I had to add a little spacer because of my bent grab bar. I went ahead and ordered a 30mm carb off ebay, and I also ordered the kx 100 radiator and give it a shot. Getting closer, I still need to order a wiring harness, and I was not sure if any of the stuff off the stocker will work, or should I just order the whole kit.2366292366302366312366322366332366342366352366 35236636

[x-rider]

Another question. I don't have a clue what this is for. Some sort of epa crap? Here's another pic I found on the net. Can't seem to find the part to cap it off. Should I just make one?236637236638

[Rob Canadian]

Only guessing but looks like some sort of an EGR. Exhaust Gas Reciculation or maybe for an O2 sensor(?)

[big specht]

Cap it off

[oscarmayer]

EGR relief that is not needed. Make a cover and cap it, or take head off and tap hole then put a plug in it(perfected method). If you do the plug you can even thread it in to the point you can make it flush in the exhaust port so it does. It interfere with exhaust flow having a hole in the middle.


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[oscarmayer]

It was listed on ebay as 200cc. I thought it resembles the 250 as well. The engine is a 169ML, and not a whole lot of info about it on the net. Also comes up as a CG 200. Bummer is no kick start option.

Dang! Well guess I was wrong. I had only seen the 250s as a water cooled option. You luck out! I am thinking of dropping the 300 into a spare X frame.
But mine has both kick and electric. :)

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[x-rider]

Dang! Well guess I was wrong. I had only seen the 250s as a water cooled option. You luck out! I am thinking of dropping the 300 into a spare X frame.
But mine has both kick and electric. :)

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Yeah, the eBay add was a little misleading. It said no parts with the auction. No shift lever, kick start lever, carb, etc. Kind of wanted both options. Oh well, can't win em all. Lol. By the way, gonna just make a cap for the egr port. Thanks fellas.

[x-rider]

You can run a KX100 rad...they fit good and do not get mashed up. I had on on my kx100 trike i built. See attached as reference.

Hey oldschool. You wouldn't happen to have a better pic for me on how you mounted your radiator.

[x-rider]

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I got my kx 100 radiator mounted up. I did not have to do any welding like I thought I was going to do. I found some led light bar mounts on ebay that looked like they would be perfect for what I needed to do. I received the mounts today, and they worked perfect. I just had to cut 2x 90 brackets out of aluminum angle I had laying around to mount the radiator. Looks good, no welding on the frame and is solid.

[Dirtcrasher]

NICE, very nice!!

Curios how well the coolant flows....

[x-rider]

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Chain alignment question? Anyone shim a sprocket in on the motor. It seems my alignment is off by the eyeball, and plenty of room to shim in a 1/4"

[x-rider]

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Started on my wiring harness today. Everything seems to be plug and play. Still need to wire up the lights, and get a battery.Thinking about building a battery box.

[Shep1970]

Hey x-rider, looking great. if you go on egay type in motorcycle battery box there is pre-made metal ones there that may work(bolt on) for you. I like how your starter solenoid has a rubber cover.

[x-rider]

Thanks for the info. I can get sheet metal too. I work at at a sheet metal company. My brother just had some nice light bar mounts burned out on a laser for his 58 jeep willys.

[x-rider]

237476 Need help on this one guys. I'm not sure how this needs to be hooked up. It is the thermostat assembly. I belive the top one is just a sensor. Not sure if I need to hook it up to any wiring or not. The other is a vacuum or something, I can blow right through it. What or where to hook up?

[Rob Canadian]

Yes looks to be just a sensor for a guage assembly OR maybe for an overheating light. Triggers a light on the dash if you will.

Is that other port connected into the cooling system. Guessing it is. I would think it would hook into the rad in some way. Kind of like a bypass hose(?)

I work in the automotive field. So thinking like this. lol

[x-rider]

I got my hoses ran today. I forgot to take pics (later). I think the coolant should flow good. I got Dochbikes number through AK47kid. I've been texting with him, he and I figure the top fitting is for a fan sensor switch. I'm not going to use a fan so I shouldn't need that. The other , Doch was thinking maybe a drain if the seal fails, or carb warmer. I was thinking maybe a bleeder of some sort? Here is a diagram I found on the web, not specific, but maybe the same concept.

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[x-rider]

I finally found a pic. It looks like it ties into the radiator.237518

[Rob Canadian]

In the pic above seems to be no wire connected to that sensor (single post at the thermostat) But on the rad there is a switch and that rad has a fan. As you are not running a fan. It does not matter. :)

[x-rider]

Looks like you were rights about the bypass. But it's hard to tell from the pic, I'm thinking it ties into the radiator hose, not the overflow like I was thinking. I'll need to get a tee if that's the case.

[x-rider]

I found a better pic of what I need to do. Looks like it ties into the upper connection. I don't have a fitting on my radiator, so it looks like I'll need a t fitting. Also looks like the overflow just goes to atmosphere? My first liquid cooled sorry for the dumb questions. 237536

[x-rider]

Update. Finally got some small heater hose in the mail. Pics of the radiator almost hooked up. I am going to weld up a stainless steel t fitting for the thermostat bypass ( blue hose), and replace the reducer with the tee, and just run 5/8 hose to the thermostat instead of 1/2". Which was real pain to get on anyways, and just clamp it down tight. Also going to make a bracket to tie the radiator into the gas tank fairing mounts. Wiring ran to the air box and cut a small slit in the top for the wiring to clear. Gonna seal it up with some silicone. Mounted my ignition. Probably gonna get crap from you guys on this one. I like how it turned out. Need to get my head light wired up. Was thinking about going to led. Not sure yet. Almost there.
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[Matt85'350x]

The key doesn't look bad. Does this engine have a neutral indicator? Here's what I did for my project

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[x-rider]

Radiator is all hooked up.
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[x-rider]

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Went to install my carb and carb intake boot. It doesn't quite fit. I'm gonna have to do a little grinding. Not much. Should be fine.

[Ranvier]

The key doesn't look bad. Does this engine have a neutral indicator? Here's what I did for my project

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That's a sharp setup. For my 350x, my security is if they can't kick start it they can't ride it off lol.....I know two guys and a truck and it is gone.

[x-rider]

Got my chain on today. Working on headlight wiring. Bought a new pigtail from O'Reillys. Now I can run the H4 9003 halogens without taking apart my oem wiring harness. I ordered a pair of cheap Chinese H4 led bulbs off ebay, I'll give those a try, if garbage I'm only out $4.20 for 2 bulbs.
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[x-rider]

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Carb fit with some grinding of the upper shock mount. I have to take it back off, because the choke sticks. It's just barely catching on the shock mount.

[Shep1970]

This is coming together nicely-looks great.
Your carb is tight, may want to put hex head bolts/screws for the float bowl, i found out the hard way
Trying to get those little buggers out w/starter under it is not fun...
Shep

[x-rider]

This is coming together nicely-looks great.
Your carb is tight, may want to put hex head bolts/screws for the float bowl, i found out the hard way
Trying to get those little buggers out w/starter under it is not fun...
Shep
Thanks for the heads up.

[x-rider]

The key doesn't look bad. Does this engine have a neutral indicator? Here's what I did for my project

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I'm sure it does. I still have to figure that out. Little more grinding done on the shock mount. Carb and new cable installed. TRX 450 billet thumb throttle and motion pro cable 02-0054. So when i got my new cable, it was about 6 inches shorter than my old throttle cable. My old one come to find out is off a TRX 250 quad. It had a 90 bend on it. They both worked for me.238861

[x-rider]

Bought a cheap rear master cylinder off ebay, as mine is frozen up good. Ad said it fit 82 250r, and 200x. I figured it was worth a shot for $13.50. I did have to drill the mounting holes, and unhook the brake line from the stay brackets. My rear caliper works great. Now I just have to figure out how I'm going to attach a rear brake lever. I also remade my upper radiator bracket out of aluminum diamond plate, and attached my right side gas tank fairing. I had to do quite a bit of cutting to make that fit. Also forgot to add that I finally got my title through the DMV. I had lost my bill of sale, and had to show proof of ownership somehow. They had me fill out a Financial Interest in a Vehicle form. I had to give them receipts and such for items I had purchased and or any receipts for work/ maintanance done to the bike. Lucky I had kept all those receipts. No Vin inspection or anything. Got my title in less than a month. Pretty easy and hassle free process. The gal at the DMV was real helpful.
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[Dirtcrasher]

Looking good buddy!!

[pickup-truckin]

Quick tip...see if you can wire the headlights to the battery. They need some sort of diode/rectifier setup. I've done LED lights to a few projects and the AC power really chews the LED board the first time or two that you lean into it. Upper RPMs get to 18 and 20v AC. Maybe even try 24VDC LEDs.. They really don't like to flicker tho..

[x-rider]

Quick tip...see if you can wire the headlights to the battery. They need some sort of diode/rectifier setup. I've done LED lights to a few projects and the AC power really chews the LED board the first time or two that you lean into it. Upper RPMs get to 18 and 20v AC. Maybe even try 24VDC LEDs.. They really don't like to flicker tho..
I have a rectifier, came with the harness. So I should be good there. I need to make a bracket to mount my solenoid. Waiting for a battery to show up in the mail. Then I can do some testing to see what wires go to my hi/low beams. I do have some extra wires, that I'm not exactly sure what they go to up there. Maybe speedo, turn signals, warning lights, etc. So I still need to figure that out. But I'm hoping to be able to start it up within a couple of weeks.

[knappyfeet]

I was thinking the same thing if I couldn't free up my rear master..........saw the same one on ebay for $14. Looks nice how it lined up.

Better than that $95 one on ebay

[x-rider]

I was thinking the same thing if I couldn't free up my rear master..........saw the same one on ebay for $14. Looks nice how it lined up.

Better than that $95 one on ebay
I also had to cut the threaded rod end off. About 1/2".

[x-rider]

Update: Battery did not show up yet. Lost in ice storm? Hopefully I get a new one soon. Bought off Amazon from a third party. Can't get my money back unless they refuse to work with me. Plus my work shop. Aka crappy lean too floods every time it rains. Which is a lot here in the NW.

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[x-rider]

Well. Battery showed up yesterday, but my sister in law gave it to me this morning. I forgot to hook up ground and blew the fuse. It was the only one I had, so I have to get a new one. Thinking about going to the square style automotive fuse as well. My drill went dead last time I was working on hooking up the ground. trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro!!! Also the battery was dead, so it's on the charger. Anyway I was able to get the headlight working correctly. Yeah. Need some fuel and fuel line. Hopefully start soon. So busy with work these days.

[knappyfeet]

I love this project.

I remember reading somewhere earlier in this thread about a couple of HP under stock and no mods.........I would give up a couple HPs for an electric start and reverse any day of the week. And little to no mods?..........ecotrons.com. Be the first kid on the block to put FI in that little motor and the coolest kid on the block with a small displacement turbo kit from them. I believe those kits were designed with these engines in mind.

Just curious........since you can tig........do you feel making minor frame mods like minor lengthening, etc would make the engine swap easier?

[x-rider]

The motor went in easy. It was a tight fit all around though. Only thing I'm not sure about is the air filter box delete. It is a battery box now. I have an uni filter hooked directly to the carb. I have read in some other threads about "resonating". I am not sure how this will affect my build. Although I could go back to my original carb, I opted for the pz-30 carb. Then I would have to go back to mounting the battery elsewhere. Either way I've got options. As far as extending the frame etc. It may be beneficial, necessary on the larger 250cc watercooled engine. I would like to see someone do that. Cool website knappyfeet. That would be a sweet setup. Only $600 for efi and $350 for a turbo.

[knappyfeet]

Only $600 for efi and $350 for a turbo.

Maybe a little more than that with the oil pump, cooler, etc.

It's called Helmholtz Resonance and manufactures use this principle in designing and constructing air boxes to have that perfect resonating frequency that increase performance in the mid range...where most riders live. Motorcycle manufactures were one of the first to implement this technology. I always get a kick when people remove airbox lids or drill holes in the airbox for "more airflow"........like somehow Honda didn't know what they were doing. People should keep in mind rule number one.....never assume you know more than a Honda engineer.

I kept this pic from Ironchops thread on LEDs and battery and wiring, etc. Maybe this could be an option.

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[atcmatt]

So true about the holes in the airbox lid etc. It kills me whenever I see it and if your a duner, sand ends up in your airbox and all over your oily filter! It's the pits!

[x-rider]

Update: New cdi showed up in the mail. Swap some wires around and now I have spark. I also pulled apart the petcock and blew out with some air. Now I need fuel line hooked up to the tank and carb, some fuel. Also I need to clean up some of the wiring. I will be firing her up soon. Sorry for the slow build.

[x-rider]

I forgot I have some tygon fuel lines for my rc gas boats. I should have enough to hook it up. I will try to fire it up this weekend. Also did a search for fuel lines. Seems the concensus was tygon or auto fuel lines. I will give the tygon a shot.

[x-rider]

Tygon fuel lines were to small. I went to Napa and bought 3/16" automotive fuel lines. Hooked carb to tank. Added fuel. It wouldn't start. I don't know. I haven't rechecked for spark yet. It is hissing at me a little when I give it a little throttle. Maybe I have an air leak. Something not tightened. Taking a little break then back out to try again.

[x-rider]

Back to no spark issue again.

[x-rider]

Found a small pin hole leak in/near the seam of my gas tank. I finally got around to getting a liner repair. It looks like it is gonna work out good. I used Northern fuel tank liner repair. My brother had some left over from a Rupp he recently restored. Still have not had time to address the no spark issue. I'm hoping it was just low battery. One step at a time, I'll eventually get it running.

[Rob Canadian]

Did you get a chance to charge the battery? I want to hear this thing!!!

All in do time.

[x-rider]

Battery should be charged now. I forgot to turn on the switch on the strip cord. Working 50-60 hour weeks, and on the road 4 hours a day. Plus 3 kids = 0 time. I tried the battery on Easter weekend, but it didn't get charged. My bad.

[x-rider]

I figured out my spark issue. Woot Woot. The kill switch has some sort of safety. Slide the switch left or rights to kill it. Then in the center start position you have to push it in, and it resets it. Kind of weird. I must have bumped the kill switch. But at least I have spark now. Also I am going to use spay max 2k clear to coat my gas tank on the outside. The gas I put in was damaging the clear I had on it. Cleaned up the wiring harness as well.

[AK47KID]

Any update?

[x-rider]

Hopefully soon. Been working 50-70 hours a week since February. 2 hour drive each way. I have little time to work on it. But I am going to buy spraymax 2k for myself for Father's Day. Clear coat my tank and put it back together. Got spark again and tidied up my wiring harness. It should start up. I will be excited to ride her again.

[muthey]

237476 Need help on this one guys. I'm not sure how this needs to be hooked up. It is the thermostat assembly. I believe the top one is just a sensor. Not sure if I need to hook it up to any wiring or not. The other is a vacuum or something, I can blow right through it. What or where to hook up?


So I can update you on some other options on the thermostat setup. I work on quite a few chinese machines, and that setup is commonly use with electric chokes, the hose goes from the thermostat to the carb and the choke plugs into the sensor, as I can tell you are not using the standard stock carb for that motor you will be fine running the hose to the radiator, but the sensor will work opposite of how you would want as it engages the choke till temp is reached.

[x-rider]

Thanks for the info. I have it tied into my radiator. I made a t-fitting for it to tie in. I thought it might be to the carb. IDK. I set it up as a bypass. Hope it works. Can you explain how it will work opposite?

[x-rider]

Tank cleared with spraymax 2k. Letting it dry for a few hours. Seems like a good clear coat. Went on good. I will let you all know how it holds up to the fuel. Also painted my race boat decals lol.

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[x-rider]

She runs. At least for a little bit. Running a little rough. Won't idle at all. Now she won't start. I ran it for a minute or two. It sounds great with the dg exhaust. The plug is almost pure black from the couple of minutes that she was running. Might have to play with the carb a little. Also was wanting to jump into gear by itself. There is not a lot of play in the clutch cable. Maybe need to have it lengthen. Any help appreciated.

[x-rider]

It's alive. To bad it's back to reality, hopefully I will find some time to break her in. She is smoking a little bit. Carb drain line melted on the muffler, and the new paint from muffler and header still burning off. Still more to come. Thanks for looking and happy 4th of July.

https://youtu.be/nz7bhmCyzt0

[x-rider]

Rode my x for the first time in years. Very awesome. Reverse is a nice option. Just got to watch out. It goes faster than you would expect. Rode it for 15 minutes. Hopefully for years more.

[x-rider]

On another note. I have not had a chance to really open it up. But 1st and 2nd gear feel just as torquey as the stock motor. 3rd gear seems good. 4th seems higher. Can't wait to open it up.

[x-rider]

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Here is a picture with the plastics on. Been riding around breaking her in. Overall I am happy with the build. A few more little things I need to do to complete it. I will get some video of it in action. Loving the reverse option.

[knappyfeet]

Looks nice!

It would look better with a blue mounted 6 pack cooler:beer

[x-rider]

Dam it. My cheap ass Chinese intake boot cracked. I was trying to start it and it was kind of hard to start. Then only would start at full choke. It was running a little rough and backfiring. This is when I realized I had an air leak. Glad I only let it run less than 30 seconds. It probably cracked due to the weight of the carb and uni filter. This time I will try to hook up to my air box boot. Now I will need a battery box. It was fun while it lasted, lol. Now I need to find an oem intake boot to fit my carb as well. Also if anyone knows where to get the boot I'm after would be awesome.

[x-rider]

Ordered 2 cheepo Chinese ones again. Just out of curiosity, if I made one out of stainless steel that could support the weight of the carb and still run the filter outside the filter box. Motor ran good this way before the leak. I just like having the filter box for my battery. Don't beat me up over this. I just want to know if anyone has ever done something like this before.

[muthey]

Thanks for the info. I have it tied into my radiator. I made a t-fitting for it to tie in. I thought it might be to the carb. IDK. I set it up as a bypass. Hope it works. Can you explain how it will work opposite?

what I meant was if you were to use it as a fan sensor to engage an electric fan, it would have the fan running till it reached temp then shut it off

[x-rider]

Update: Got my rubber intake manifold. Yes I bought an extra one too. I finally found some time last weekend to install it. I also got a pvc coupler and 1-1/2" rubber flex connector, this allowed me to temporarily zip tie it to the frame until I can make a bracket. I have been ripping it around the property for an hour here and there. It is running pretty good. I do have a question about the clutch though. The cable barely fit when I installed it. It seems as though the clutch slips a little until it is warmed up a bit. Could this be normal or is my clutch cable to short, not allowing the discs to work properly. Only other problem I am having is the hose on the t fitting I made is leaking fluid a little because the hose cannot be tightened enough. I will not be taking it on any long rides until this is fixed. Until then I will just top it off every day I ride it. One tank down, one to go and it will be broken in. Thanks for any advice about the clutch.

[x-rider]

I figured out my clutch issue. I was in a hurry to install it and put both nuts above the cable stay bracket. The 1/4" play was just enough to keep the clutch from engaging properly. I am good to go now minus the small leak. Then I will play with the jetting a little. It seems to sputter a little in first gear with little to no throttle. Other than that throttle response is good.

[kevin]

Cool build also like your rc boat I have a few myself, what are you running for a motor?

[x-rider]

M-6 mod 26cc Zenoah by Warehouse Hobbies in my Coors Light mono hull, and CC Racing pro mod 26cc Zenoah in my thunderboat. Also have a stock 26cc Rev Unlimited for my thunderboat. My trike? 200cc zongshen knockoff, 4 speed with reverse. Not automatic by the way. Lol.

[jb2wheels]

I figured out my clutch issue. I was in a hurry to install it and put both nuts above the cable stay bracket. The 1/4" play was just enough to keep the clutch from engaging properly. I am good to go now minus the small leak. Then I will play with the jetting a little. It seems to sputter a little in first gear with little to no throttle. Other than that throttle response is good.

That's exactly the mistake I made when I put a 200 Loncin on a 200X.
Sorry I did not see this sooner. Glad you caught it. I had to burn up the clutch first.
On the plus side, mine used the same plates as every old Honda XL/XR ever made (or so it seemed at the time). I think I had 6 frictions and used 2 EBC kits for an XR80 or something like that.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/139373-Um-I-think-it-s-the-clutch-Lifan-Loncin-200cc

[x-rider]

Yep. I am glad I noticed. It wheelies in 2nd gear if I hammer on it, and if I lean back in 3rd. On a side note the DG exhaust I'm not sure, but it seems to have more bark than bite. Anyway I'm having fun on it.

[x-rider]

Lost my phone and all my pics at the dunes. Nothing's changed really. I will get a video when I get some time. Word!!!

[x-rider]

I actually had missed the "finished" pic before. It looks amazing man. Very well done. Is it fast?
Thanks. It goes good. I haven't been able to do a full speed run. I have just enough room to get into 4th gear before having to immediately brake or downshift. I do think however it will be faster than stock.

[x-rider]

Hope so:cool:

[x-rider]

Just a little side note: It sucks that I do not have a kick start option, but happy to say that it will roll start. Have not tested with a bad or dead battery. I'm thinking that it would not be an issue?

[x-rider]

P.O.S. starter stuck on me a little bit today. Tapped on it a little bit and it freed up. Also the spraymax 2k is bubbling up a little bit at the cap. I'm no painter that's for sure. Whatever I can't wait to find time to beat the crap out of it.

[x-rider]

Blew up something in my starter today. Worked good at first. I rode it around for awhile. When I was going to put it away, chunk, chunk, chunk. Try again, same thing. I tried again and it broke something off inside. Now it just free spins. I’m going to go give her a push start when my brother gets here to help me. I’m guessing the gear cog broke, or the gears are stripped. I will pull it apart and have a looksy when I get a chance. Then probably look for replacement parts.

[x-rider]

Who is “The Dumbshit” . Looks like a moderator or hacker is changing posts? Look at some of the last poster of some threads on here. Wtf. Then you look, nothing is posted.

[El Camexican]

Dumbshit is the former DOHC bikes, AKA Quicksilver, Daily Grind and Dude.

Rather than selectively edit his recent rants it looks like Billy just zapped all his posts, so that altered some threads.

[x-rider]

Test: Bump

[TrickShot]

Test. Seems to work...

[Rob Canadian]

Test. Seems to work...

Thank You. Thread kept looping around page7/8.

Any update on the trike?

[x-rider]

Finally got around to pull the starter out. Looks like I got lucky and the broken teeth stayed on the stator side of things. Drained the oil and did not see any shavings. I’ll get some new parts soon and get back to some riding again. Pics of the gear carnage. Seems that the culprit was shaft misalignment from the factory. You can see where the shaft is supposed to be aligned, and where it was actually. I don’t even know how it worked the way it was. I’m guessing the gears were only partly meshing. Here are the pics. Happy riding!!!

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[Red Rider]

Pics of the gear carnage. Seems that the culprit was shaft misalignment from the factory.Kind of makes one question the build quality of the rest of the motor and it's components.

[Shep1970]

Just a thought here but, is your one/way bearing (starter clutch) working properly? Behind the flywheel in your pic the large gear does it spin clockwise separately from flywheel? But lock up counterclockwise? You may need to slide those two upper right gears in your pic out to try? Again just a thought, may want to check before you put a new gear set on.
The engine running may have ripped those gears apart if one/way bearing failed,

Ok i’m Done over thinking things....

Shep

[x-rider]

Thanks Shep for the heads up. I will check it out for sure. New starter and dual gear on its way. Will be back together in no time at all.

[x-rider]

Everything is back together now. Battery is dead now. Tried to turn over a few times, didn’t want to start. Another issue. Put it away last winter with a full tank of fuel. Check fuel and just under half a tank. Fuel petcock was in the closed position. I will look into this a little further.

[x-rider]

Dam the luck. Got her started up. Running fine at idle, would want to die when I give it gas. Then just quit running all together. Pushed her back to the barn. Pulled off the carb, bunch of gel crap in the bottom of the bowl. Running 42/118 jets there was a piece of gel in the high? 118 jet. Got her all cleaned up and back together. Started up right away. Put the seat back on to go for a ride. Wtf. Battery dead now, put it back on the charger. Give her a go soon. Thought it was the dam Chinese carb, but it was just crappy American fuel!!!

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[ironchop]

Pretty frustrating.
I fill up my generator every November in case of ice storms and I had the fuel tank cap off the other day and that gas is already skunked so I'll be draining and probably pulling the carb off in a week or two.
Funny how the price of fuel goes up while the quality of fuel goes down

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[x-rider]

Wtf. Run good last night. Run like chit today and won’t start again. Time to check the carb again. Maybe drain the tank too.

[x-rider]

No time to get running with work, chores, and my gasser project. Maybe someday. I’ll never get rid of her though!!!

[x-rider]

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I am working on setting my bike back up using the oem carb, ( suggested by yaegerb) and I’m sure by others. So I am going back to using the air box as intended for the air filter. I had some materials laying around so I fabbed up this battery box for free. Almost back together and should be able to fire it up soon to see if it will run. I also installed a fuel filter in hopes of added protection.

[x-rider]

So I got the bike to run and idle on its own. Air mixture screw at 1-3/4 turns out like factory motor. It was spitting fuel back at me until it fired. Adjusted the idle a bit and idled it for about 5 minutes or so. Was getting a little coughing here and there back out the carb?? It seems that the battery doesn’t have enough cranking amps to fire up the bike as I have to use the jumper box to get that extra little umph to keep it cranking.

[x-rider]

So today I got to ride my bike today for 15-20 minutes. Ran pretty good, I was having thumb throttle assembly issues, possibly cable adjustment issues too. Adjusted idle after letting idle for a few minutes. After I rode for a bit the idle started to rev a little higher. Not to high, but enough that it bothers me. Possibly an air leak?, or I need to adjust the cable a bit. I’m getting there. Just never enough time in a 24 hour day!

[x-rider]

12pack of claws. She runs like a raped ape. Only put her over twice. Few scrapes and bruises, but I’ll live. Lol. Love it!

[knappyfeet]

Glad to see you back at this.

Got any updated pics?

[x-rider]

Glad to see you back at this.

Got any updated pics?

Not really, just a battery box and running the air box to carb with uni filter. It’s running ok, right now. I’m fighting an air leak right now. Pretty sure this is the high idle revving I’m getting. The Chinese intake boots are garbage and prone to cracking. Cheep rubber I guess. I should dig through parts bin and grab my oem one. Anyways I guess it runs better when I’ve had a few to many. Lol. I only rode it for a few minutes the other day.