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El Camexican
04-07-2017, 04:53 AM
I thought he gave a great speech last night. His most Presidential by far. Scripted, I know, but at times like this they should be. I also think he did the right thing too. Russia, Iran, N. Korea and China have all been feeling empowered to act at will for the past 8 years. Nice to see the defenders of Democracy do more than just talk again.

Wondering what you guys think? Tons of negative comments over this on the net, I’m wondering if that's just the left bitching for the sake of bitching, or if “real Americans” think it was the wrong thing to do as well?:wondering I’m hoping America’s allies take this as a signal that it’s safe to end the era of point, cry and retreat and instead unite for the greater good again when needed.

One thing's for sure, last night’s events should end any rumors about Russia having any power over Trump.:lol:

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Scootertrash
04-07-2017, 07:43 AM
In before the "Rich globalist fabricated war for oil media fabricated fake nerve gas attack that killed babies all so America can control the world" conspiracy theorists.

As far as I'm concerned: Good shoot. F Syria.

What will Fabio's buddy Putin have to say?


ETA: The Jews are responsible for this. There, now glamy will be happy too.

atc007
04-07-2017, 07:50 AM
I had to get to bed. What did I miss? Nothing will surprise me though... Told ya so??!! lol... Considering how powerless the president actually is. I have been very very happy so far.

El Camexican
04-07-2017, 08:14 AM
He fired almost 5 dozen Tomahawks into Syria. Proudly developed in Canada amidst the crys and tears of our local pussy pacifists back in the 80's I might add.

redsox
04-07-2017, 08:48 AM
Why do we always hafta be the cowboy riding in to save the day? I guess it was a good move. But i'm not thrilled on where it could take us. You can't gas kids. I get it. The country has no appetite for another war and President Trump won't get the support. Couldn't someone else field this one while we get our s together here at home? Other countries care about kids, don't they? I fear that our enemies want to weaken us by sucking us into a fight. "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." -Eddie Murphy (or maybe it was Sun Tzu)

El Camexican
04-07-2017, 09:25 AM
Why do we always hafta be the cowboy riding in to save the day?

In my OPIONON (as I am not an expert on the subject) your leaders came late to the party in WWII when they should have been there from the start and quite frankly pulled some pretty shady sh*t that got your dollar to be the International trading standard and allowed some people that should have been executed for war crimes to live comfortably in the USA and develop your military and space programs that put you at the front of the pack. There were also concessions offered for other nations to back off military developments that exceeded the technology of the US at the time, like the Avro Arrow. In many, many, many other instances around the world the USA has bought favor and influence with your tax dollars and the blood of your youth, but in my OPINION (again) the overall result for the USA as well as the countries that have sided with the perception of democracy has been worth it when one considers the alternatives out there.

In short, the USA took the responsibility of being "Globocop" on by their own actions and I for one appreciate it, regardless of how flawed, corrupt and occasionally misguided it may seem.

My $0.02

3 Wheel Drive
04-07-2017, 10:11 AM
Trump is just getting started!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

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fabiodriven
04-07-2017, 10:24 AM
Scooter the very term "Conspiracy theorist" is a trigger term invented to subconsciously trigger those who might be listening to dismiss the words of said "theorist". A more appropriate title would be a "hypothesis proponent", thank you.

Speaking from a point of ignorance as the only reason I even know we've fired missiles into Syria is because it was stated in this thread, I can assure you of one thing; actions such as these are always taken with your "approval". Murica was all revved up, writing songs, praying, and slapping yellow magnetic yellow ribbons on their cars while going to save the planet from Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction. Then we got there and there weren't any. Oops! Well while we're here, let's trash this dump and take the oil! I must be crazy to think there may be hidden truths about the energy companies. They'd never do that.

And the US would never goad you into standing behind them on an attack, would they? As I said, I don't know what happened in Syria, but many times the truth is found in directing your attention away from said event and look at what it causes. There is where the truth lies, because I can promise you that you will never find the truth in the direction they're pointing for you to find it. So if I look the other way, what do I see? I see you guys, which is a tiny representation of the population. I see your approval of this country sending airborne death and destruction. I assume you're supposed to be backing this, that this is a generally accepted move as far as America is concerned.

Because all of the military moves America makes are made with the overwhelming support of the American people who are informed in a country of misinformation, this should be treated no different than any other false flag this country has purported in the past. That doesn't automatically make this particular event a false flag event, however every event such as this should be treated as one.

The firing of missiles and ending of lives has become the norm for the human race and is glorified to keep it an acceptable act amongst the public. America has had so few attacks on her soil and it's very easy for spectators to sit by and cheer. They've made it that way.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, when was the last time America took military action that the general public didn't approve of?

knappyfeet
04-07-2017, 10:37 AM
I wouldn't have done it.

In the end it won't mean anything.

ironchop
04-07-2017, 12:32 PM
Well I give a f@#k about American kids and only American kids. I'd rather drop 14 trillion on cleaning up our own @#$& neighborhoods than bombing a rebuilding things that serve the interest of the global elite led by (((Soros))).

I don't fall for media lies anymore. They have lied about the reasons for involvement in every skirmish, war, or global police action and frankly pics of six dead people isn't enough to make me care about the Middle East anymore. These people lie and are not to be trusted. They destroy and destabilize to suit their agenda of Pillage and they get us all to sign on by hollering about "muh freedoms that they hate" "muh Constitution" "human rights!" "Democracy!" "Tolerance!"

Republican or Democrat.....Doesn't matter they both want war. The difference is that a Liberal will lie thru their teeth while a Republican​ is open about it.

I'm not sure how bombing some brown people saves them from chemical attacks but ABC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC all say it's true and logical so it must be.

The fact that NOBODY seems to notice how HAPPY BOTH SIDES of the aisle were when this happened should be a glaring indication that this is bad for us and good for them.

Hillary has called for this all week while Liberals pretend STILL that Democrats are the party of peace. Trump basically just followed the advice of Hillary Clinton and as far as I'm concerned, the honeymoon is over for me. That trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro doesn't do anything that isn't dirty, illegal, and benefits these freaks like her so now I'm forced to concede that the fix is in. Funny how they all hate one another until bombs drop and then they are all salivating and cashing dividend checks just like when they wrecked the sovereignty of the Ukraine to serve a Natural Gas contract for Bidens son.

You got me once with "weapons of mass destruction" and coupled with the fact that everything media said for the last 18 years is now in question means you won't fool me again. Calling me a conspiracy theorist won't sway me either.

Oddly, alot of folks who distrust the news media suddenly swallowed this "chemical attack" (a tired cliche by now used five times before to justify an intervention) story hook, line, and sinker.

You don't attack a country who DID NOT attack you until Congressional approval....That's the law here so I'm not sure why the Constitution crowd is ok with executive attacks? Obama drones ppl and we yell "Impeach!" but if Trump does it..."well did you see those dead kids?"

This thing serves a global corporate cabal of wannabe global socialists while enjoying the support of conservative and liberal alike.

One side yelling "but Soros influenced elections"

The other side yelling "but Russia influenced elections"

All the while Republicans pretend to despise Obamacare and Socialism by refusing to repeal it. Democrats pretend to hate war while waging one every administration they control.

Y'all do realize this makes FIVE presidents in a row who started some bombing or invasion campaign in one of Israels neighbors? Sorry but I'm not bothered by the "antisemite" name calling so I'll call a spade a spade. Those aren't biblical Hebrews therefore I owe them NOTHING as a Christian man. They have NEVER shed blood to help Americans and so I feel no loyalty to Zionism or the complete racism that they support in their own country while protesting the racism in ours.

A country who needs your protection 24/7 is not an ally. It's a liability. If you think pragmatism makes you anti-Semitic, then I can't help you.

I'm tired of leaving American blood and American dollars in a sand dune because Holocaust™

Funny how Israel is doing all the boo-hooing playing scared but doing none of the fighting. And please, shooting people thru the fence they are trapped inside for throwing rocks isn't fighting. That's just being a twatwaffle.

So you think they made a brave decision to act on the attack? Yeah well those "brave" leaders get to hide in a stocked bunker when the ICBMs fly. It isn't their kids dying, it's yours. They get to hide in a mountain....Like cowering sissies...How brave is that?

I want AIPAC out of the country and anything that supports anymore of these CUCK Neo-Cons.

Flame me if you want. I simply don't care.

Syria supposedly gassed their own people so we attacked. North Korea has been threatening us and posturing for decades and we hide from him and pretend he doesn't exist. NOTHING brave or noble about that. Bowing up on the tiny kids but hiding from the bigger ones doesn't make you tough.



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83ATC185
04-07-2017, 01:07 PM
To me its just proof of the way things are. Trump says "Make America great again!" and gets elected. Then immediately seems to lose focus on the American problems he promised we were going to "fix together". Then he gets the US involved in a place we have no business being, wasting our tax dollars in what amounts to an International Dick Swinging Championship. And you have people on the left saying, "oh those poor children", pointing to tattle on the rule breakers, and people on the right saying "show them who's boss"
All while Democrats and Republicans pretend to be against each other.

All while our own children and veterans go hungry in the streets. What else is new?

Scootertrash
04-07-2017, 01:27 PM
By dinner the usual media subjects will be claiming missiles hit orphanages, hospitals, schools, and homes for single goat mothers.

knappyfeet
04-07-2017, 02:52 PM
Well I give a f@#k about American kids and only American kids. I'd rather drop 14 trillion on cleaning up our own @#$& neighborhoods than bombing a rebuilding things that serve the interest of the global elite led by (((Soros))).

I don't fall for media lies anymore. They have lied about the reasons for involvement in every skirmish, war, or global police action and frankly pics of six dead people isn't enough to make me care about the Middle East anymore. These people lie and are not to be trusted. They destroy and destabilize to suit their agenda of Pillage and they get us all to sign on by hollering about "muh freedoms that they hate" "muh Constitution" "human rights!" "Democracy!" "Tolerance!"

Republican or Democrat.....Doesn't matter they both want war. The difference is that a Liberal will lie thru their teeth while a Republican​ is open about it.

I'm not sure how bombing some brown people saves them from chemical attacks but ABC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC all say it's true and logical so it must be.

The fact that NOBODY seems to notice how HAPPY BOTH SIDES of the aisle were when this happened should be a glaring indication that this is bad for us and good for them.

Hillary has called for this all week while Liberals pretend STILL that Democrats are the party of peace. Trump basically just followed the advice of Hillary Clinton and as far as I'm concerned, the honeymoon is over for me. That trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro doesn't do anything that isn't dirty, illegal, and benefits these freaks like her so now I'm forced to concede that the fix is in. Funny how they all hate one another until bombs drop and then they are all salivating and cashing dividend checks just like when they wrecked the sovereignty of the Ukraine to serve a Natural Gas contract for Bidens son.

You got me once with "weapons of mass destruction" and coupled with the fact that everything media said for the last 18 years is now in question means you won't fool me again. Calling me a conspiracy theorist won't sway me either.

Oddly, alot of folks who distrust the news media suddenly swallowed this "chemical attack" (a tired cliche by now used five times before to justify an intervention) story hook, line, and sinker.

You don't attack a country who DID NOT attack you until Congressional approval....That's the law here so I'm not sure why the Constitution crowd is ok with executive attacks? Obama drones ppl and we yell "Impeach!" but if Trump does it..."well did you see those dead kids?"

This thing serves a global corporate cabal of wannabe global socialists while enjoying the support of conservative and liberal alike.

One side yelling "but Soros influenced elections"

The other side yelling "but Russia influenced elections"

All the while Republicans pretend to despise Obamacare and Socialism by refusing to repeal it. Democrats pretend to hate war while waging one every administration they control.

Y'all do realize this makes FIVE presidents in a row who started some bombing or invasion campaign in one of Israels neighbors? Sorry but I'm not bothered by the "antisemite" name calling so I'll call a spade a spade. Those aren't biblical Hebrews therefore I owe them NOTHING as a Christian man. They have NEVER shed blood to help Americans and so I feel no loyalty to Zionism or the complete racism that they support in their own country while protesting the racism in ours.

A country who needs your protection 24/7 is not an ally. It's a liability. If you think pragmatism makes you anti-Semitic, then I can't help you.

I'm tired of leaving American blood and American dollars in a sand dune because Holocaust™

Funny how Israel is doing all the boo-hooing playing scared but doing none of the fighting. And please, shooting people thru the fence they are trapped inside for throwing rocks isn't fighting. That's just being a twatwaffle.

So you think they made a brave decision to act on the attack? Yeah well those "brave" leaders get to hide in a stocked bunker when the ICBMs fly. It isn't their kids dying, it's yours. They get to hide in a mountain....Like cowering sissies...How brave is that?

I want AIPAC out of the country and anything that supports anymore of these CUCK Neo-Cons.

Flame me if you want. I simply don't care.

Syria supposedly gassed their own people so we attacked. North Korea has been threatening us and posturing for decades and we hide from him and pretend he doesn't exist. NOTHING brave or noble about that. Bowing up on the tiny kids but hiding from the bigger ones doesn't make you tough.



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ironchop
04-07-2017, 03:00 PM
By dinner the usual media subjects will be claiming missiles hit orphanages, hospitals, schools, and homes for single goat mothers.
I'm surprised they aren't already.

This thing is media mileage for pundit shows on both sides for the next 3 weeks or until a trans-gendered whoosy-whatsit gets mad about a bathroom sign and we all pay no attention to the Man behind the curtain cause Bruce has breasts now and needs your validation.

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fabiodriven
04-07-2017, 03:09 PM
By dinner the usual media subjects will be claiming missiles hit orphanages, hospitals, schools, and homes for single goat mothers.

And you know for a fact that didn't happen? Why is this? Because your preferred supplier of propaganda says the contrary?

As I said, this is spectator sport for almost everyone commenting here as well as those who decide to send death to others. It's extremely easy for Americans to sit here and comment because they know everything, they know we're right, and there is no telling them otherwise due to the egos instilled in the modern American citizen these days. As Doug said, Trump isn't there watching these missiles land, his kids aren't there holding rifles, and none of them are digging bodies out of debris.

If you knew what it was like to have you or your family's homes fired bombed and reduced to rubble with no warning then you might understand how to TRULY view another country with disdain. If you've never seen up close and in the flesh what happens to your culture when your city is reduced to rubble then you just wouldn't understand, period. These are human lives, and if anyone believes US bombing only hits bad guys you had better think again. You're not told the truth initially, but it can always be found eventually if one seeks it.

If it's required I can start posting link after link of your government lying to you as well as their media, and I can show you how many civilians get bombed for doing nothing more than existing in their respective country. When the star spangled missiles start destroying your town, to me that's more than enough reason to despise the place in which those missiles originated. If a Russian ICBM took you out in a completely different part of our country and I was physically untouched, that by no means indicates that I am unscathed.

Human farking lives here people, actual lives are on the line. This is not a farking movie and the reality of these constant actions need sorely to be considered.

Obviously I was eluding to the fact that I have seen what intentional destruction and complete disregard for your fellow man ends up looking like in the flesh, and I can assure you it is not a pretty sight and something a huge part of our population is so far removed from that it's beyond concerning. Your news show is not going to come on and explain to you how many innocent people were killed in this bombing or the true meaning behind it, period, end of story. Just about every time this happens it's for financial gain for those who never get their hands dirty at the cost of "lowly" lives such as mine. America needs some serious deprogramming and I honestly feel if those who push the button from the other side of the planet had to spend some time pulling the four year old girl off her father's corpse, or digging through the rubble of a home looking for any signs of their worldly possessions, or watched tanks roll by what used to be their home day in and day out, or watch their neighbors forcefully and violently removed from their homes in the middle of the night not knowing if your door is to be kicked in next, perhaps they may *start* to understand.

These are human lives we are talking about and this is not a movie. Our soldiers are not chess pieces and not everyone killed and effected by war is guilty. We all lose, everyone. The only people who gain from war are those whose hands remain clean, and they gain in dividends which are difficult for us to even imagine, not that we'd try. We're too busy killing each other and cleaning up the mess, then doing it again because we never seem to farking learn.

El Camexican
04-07-2017, 03:15 PM
I'm surprised they aren't already.

There was a report I saw around 3:00am of 6 kids being killed because the missiles missed the base and hit an apartment or house, but I don't see it anymore.

El Camexican
04-07-2017, 03:24 PM
"By the end of August 2014, the UN estimated 6.5 million people had been displaced within Syria, while more than 3 million had fled to countries such as Lebanon (1.14 million), Jordan (608,000) and Turkey (815,000)."

That's almost 3 years ago (if it's true) and I doubt any have returned, unless they did so as ISIS recruits.

This is what weakness and inaction breeds. To put it in perspective of bullying, for the civilized world to sit back and do nothing about it would be equivalent to all the teachers of a school gathering around to watch the kindergarteners get their teeth kicked in by the 9th graders and doing nothing to stop it.

Again, my $0.02

fabiodriven
04-07-2017, 03:29 PM
Right, but what causes such deep seeded anger in such overwhelming numbers of people? Lest we forget how many brown people this country has killed, maimed, and made homeless over the decades always in the name of "something noble" which is complete and utter horse shite. It's for the gain of power and wealth.

The United States wants you to back them in all of these scenarios so if there is another side to be heard, you're not going to hear it.

fabiodriven
04-07-2017, 05:48 PM
I will end my rant and I don't aim to get carried away. There is just no way I can get the point across of the actual hands-on, real life effects events such as these have. It is a very common and accepted attitude for people who have never experienced such atrocities to cheer on or make light of these things. We are bred to be as such in this country from birth in a society that glorifies violence and has children fighting virtual wars from the time they're old enough to pick up a gaming remote. We are all so far removed from these circumstances that it's very easy to take it in stride and continue watering our lawns while others have been wiped off the face of the planet.

As far as "single goat mothers" are concerned, it's that sort of mindset which is proof of how accepting we're supposed to be of these kinds of situations. To joke and belittle while people lay dead. These people's lives revolve around their livestock and the loss of one animal could represent you having a total septic system failure one day with no choice but to come up with $20,000 the next day in order to fix it. I don't aim to single you out Scooter because I get the joke and honestly that's not an uncommon mindset to have. That's actually what's probably on most people's minds. The problem is, nobody recognizes that kind of mindset as being wrong, it's accepted, and it's supposed to be accepted. That's the problem.

But I digress and I don't aim to take over this thread or stop it in any way. I understand completely how my views can most times be considered unorthodox and I'm fine with that.

Far be it my permission to give in the first place, but by all means continue on with what you gents are thinking.

El Camexican
04-07-2017, 07:06 PM
Your post reminded me that just a few years ago I had to duck under my kitchen table with my daughter at 2 PM in the afternoon because the Narcos drove by my house shooting at each other. Not over some religious convictions or moral battle between good and evil. Nope, they were fighting over territory needed to get drugs to the US border. I've also seen about a dozen bodies and been within ear shot of multiple gun fights over the same. So, I guess it's safe to say I have some first had experience with the kind of sh*t that comes from conflicts stirred up by outside influences. And had the US tried to intervien at some point back around 2010 they would have been welcomed by many here.

bkm
04-07-2017, 07:39 PM
This is for my San Dank Brother. He'll get these words.

Revolution in their minds the children start to march
Against the world in which they have to live
And all the hate that's in their hearts
They're tired of being pushed around
And told just what to do
They'll fight the world until they've won
And love comes flowing through, yeah

Children of tomorrow live in the tears that fall today
Will the sun rise up tomorrow bringing peace in any way?
Must the world live in the shadow of atomic fear?
Can they win the fight for peace or will they disappear, yeah

So you children of the world,
Listen to what I say
If you want a better place to live in
Spread the words today
Show the world that love is still alive you must be brave
Or you children of today are children of the grave, yeah

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ironchop
04-07-2017, 08:28 PM
"By the end of August 2014, the UN estimated 6.5 million people had been displaced within Syria, while more than 3 million had fled to countries such as Lebanon (1.14 million), Jordan (608,000) and Turkey (815,000)."

That's almost 3 years ago (if it's true) and I doubt any have returned, unless they did so as ISIS recruits.

This is what weakness and inaction breeds. To put it in perspective of bullying, for the civilized world to sit back and do nothing about it would be equivalent to all the teachers of a school gathering around to watch the kindergarteners get their teeth kicked in by the 9th graders and doing nothing to stop it.

Again, my $0.02
I agree with you in this respect.

The problem is that most Americans and the rest of the world don't know that American Senators of the Republican Vietnam Vet flavor and Secretary of States of the crazy cat lady flavor completely invented, armed, and funded the terror "threat" known as ISIS. Then they posed for selfies with them. They ran out of bogeymen to hunt down and hang so Clinton and McCain teamed up in sudden bipartisan fashion created new ones to insure The War Machine keeps turning. Everyone not in debt to the Central Bank is fair game for air raids and CIA and US Senate and State Department collude to arm and fund rebel insurgency in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Jordan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen

It was a dead giveaway when American plumbing contractor trucks ended up in Syria with Soviet heavy machine guns dumping 8mm on Assad....Then suddenly they got fleets upon fleets of brand new Toyota Tundras. One would think that terrorist hunters could easily track who bought fleets of identical Tundras to be delivered to northern Syria all at the same time.

'American' globalists hijacked our government and they won't give it back.

I fully believe in being the Leader if nobody else steps up and I also believe in a strong and swift defense of ourselves.

The the biggest scandal....Confirmed by numerous high level intelligence leaks which is pretty irrefutable.....Is that these threats have been created from thin air to terrorize and kill so that the very same ppl who created them may have an excuse to spend more money that doesn't belong to them to make money for themselves and their select friends.

False Flag attacks are neither conspiracy theory nor anything new. Pretty old military tactic actually and probably the most effective to date for mankind. The veil is off the eyes of a very large and growing amount of people and we now realize what they've been doing all along which is fund both sides to serve a separate end-game. Another tactic that's several hundred years old or more.

I'm a Nationalist. I love this country. I believe in a strong national defense. I am pro-military. I believe a strong posture is a good deterrent and I believe in curb stomping anything that threatens anyone and everyone of every type, color, or Creed within the borders of this magnificent nation. I believe in loyal and complete defense of my ally in certain instances. I am for sending the most elite soldiers in the world in to eliminate our enemies surgically.

What I'm against is American Imperialism. European globalism. Any form of 'Communism', 'Anarchism', or Authoritarian Socialism and Monarchy. I'm against the attitude that we're the saviours for Planet Earth or responsible for spreading 'civilization' or 'democracy' anywhere outside my borders. I'm against bombing stuff and inadvertently killing people creating even more generations of belligerents. It's akin to mowing down the entire flower bed so you can be sure you killed the weeds in it.....The ironic part was that the weeds were planted there so we'd have an excuse later to mow down the flower bed in a show of force and an example to other weeds everywhere.

I'm with you Nico. I still believe in masculinity and leadership. I'm just awoke.

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Mr. Clean
04-07-2017, 08:48 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ep6YVqc6Ks

One of my favorite quotes Ironchop......I have nothing other than that on this topic :)

Ok, I lied I have this, which is not directed at anyone here......I appreciate everyone's point of view unlike most people on social media who want to parade their view as "it" and the "truth" :beer

El Camexican
04-08-2017, 09:13 AM
[video]I appreciate everyone's point of view unlike most people on social media who want to parade their view as "it" and the "truth"

You forgot "fact" ;)

Scootertrash
04-08-2017, 09:53 AM
What is the cost to the US when, after a couple of instances of ethnic or religious genocide/cleansing by some crackpot Dictaster, we as a nation are required by the Progressive media and politicians, church groups, and every other humanitarian organization to be "noble" and take in thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of refugees, immigrants, and victims of political persecution which are then dropped into the laps of taxpayers?

Why can't we just tell them to man up, grow some balls, defend yourselves, and save your own sh!thole country? Or would that be insensitive and uncaring?

What is the cost of American lives when some Middle Eastern transplant goes apesh!it and shoots up a military base, an office, college campus, etc, in acts of terrorism....oh, excuse me that should be "workplace violence"?

Not supposed to believe the media, unless of course they're talking about war for oil, no weapons of mass destruction, etc, etc, etc. One mans propaganda is another mans truth. If you don't believe my version of propaganda you're an ignorant moron pawn sheep, here let me tell you the truth. Yea, nobody else has an agenda do they?

I've said it before: Yup, the filthy rich run EVERYTHING, it ain't gonna change. Audit the fed? Big f'n deal. They'll cook the books and all their complacent well payed pawns and politicians will back them up, including the likes of Ron Paul. "See, we told ya. Nothin' shady goin' on here." Run the banks? :rolleyes: Do you really believe that the banks will empty the vaults because everybody goes in and says "I'd like to withdraw all my money"? :lol:

Ask the rich elite really nicely to share all their money because "it's the fair thing to do" and then everybody can be "equal"? Smoke another bowl.

Let's not forget that these are people who hate us. Are we somehow less evil because we bring them here and give them free sh!t? All of a sudden we're forgiven our real and/or perceived transgressions?

Maybe if we just sent millions or billions of dollars to the mideast they would forgive us......oh, wait a minute.

Here's a scenario: There was no gas attack, there was no missile strike. All Kabuki Theatre. But yet there are those who believe (To borrow from Fabio) "Their preferred supplier of propaganda" that it all really did happen. As well as believing the reports of women children and hospitals hit.

No offense to you 'chop, but I have as much faith in "High level government leaks" and "A high ranking government official stated on the condition of anonymity" BS as I do in the rest of the feces the Progressive left media spews. Just another media created smokescreen to try to silence naysayers. I mean after all, it was a high ranking government official, right? Hell, they wouldn't lie. They have no agenda.

I don't watch much TV, have the reports of errant missile strikes killing innocents started yet?

FWIW Putin is just as big of a sh!tbag /Dictator/politician as the rest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn60YWO218k


I'll be out in my backyard grazing.

fabiodriven
04-08-2017, 09:58 AM
I don't know if the "fact" and "truth" stuff is aimed at me, but it doesn't bother me if it is. I deserve that even if it's not directed at me. Guilty conscience.

I do realize I've gotten carried away and that's why I used to try to avoid threads such as this outside of my own for a very long time. I'll probably get back to that policy again. I apologize for getting carried away in your thread Nico and others and I also appreciate the very in depth minds we have within this community. We've got a helluva group!

Since I've probably said too much already then the damage is done. What so many people are unaware of is how trivial all of this is and there is an entire movement of of people speaking openly about how to fix just about everything, and I tend to believe it. I rant because I care and there are things I have been shown that most have not, and very few care to see. It's as if there is no answer other than violence, peace is laughable and not even an option. Therein lies the heart of the problem and the deceit.

More war has never caused less war, remember that. Peace will never be an option if it's not even an option.

El Camexican
04-08-2017, 10:12 AM
Why can't we just tell them to man up, grow some balls, defend yourselves, and save your own sh!thole country? Or would that be insensitive and uncaring?

I can't help but wonder how many native Americans wish they would have said that to the people getting off the Mayflower.

El Camexican
04-08-2017, 10:16 AM
I don't know if the "fact" and "truth" stuff is aimed at me, but it doesn't bother me if it is. I deserve that even if it's not directed at me. Guilty conscience.

I do realize I've gotten carried away and that's why I used to try to avoid threads such as this outside of my own for a very long time. I'll probably get back to that policy again. I apologize for getting carried away in your thread Nico and others and I also appreciate the very in depth minds we have within this community. We've got a helluva group!

Since I've probably said too much already then the damage is done. What so many people are unaware of is how trivial all of this is and there is an entire movement of of people speaking openly about how to fix just about everything, and I tend to believe it. I rant because I care and there are things I have been shown that most have not, and very few care to see. It's as if there is no answer other than violence, peace is laughable and not even an option. Therein lies the heart of the problem and the deceit.

More war has never caused less war, remember that. Peace will never be an option if it's not even an option.

Dude, I put this stuff up to provoke thought and get opinions and perspectives out there. The great thing about the people on this site is that 99% of us can agree to disagree in most case and move on to the next thing. Please keep posting, you've seen some crazy trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro in the world that others haven't, share it.

As far as more war not causing less war I'd disagree based on Japan's firsthand experience.

fabiodriven
04-08-2017, 10:45 AM
Scooter, you my friend are a lost cause unless you choose to see. The difference between you and I is I've seen your side as well as the side I stand on now. We all start out on the side you're on. This side is the one you have to find on your own. I cannot pick apart everything you say because it would be too much, but there are multiple things you've written that make absolutely no sense but you're trying to portray these things as my thoughts. It shows how unaware you are.

I've seen your side scooter, we all have. We all start that way. You can just take a little peek at what the other side is suggesting before you discount it, and you cannot tell me you're aware because your words speak for themselves. You have absolutely no clue what is going on over on this side, you're not interested in educating yourself, and yet you continue to have an opinion and aim your comments at me. I would really love to see you speak from an educated point of view on this subject.

Also scooter, I would like to add that the people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts have spoken in regards to the laws regarding the plant known as marijuana. It is my choice to use this plant which is completely natural, non addictive, and actually has a multitude of medicinal qualities, all of which have undoubtedly not been discovered yet. It is physically impossible to overdose on marijuana. I'm going to assume you use alcohol as most people do. Alcohol is extremely addictive, very bad for physical health, and it's a depressant which means it's bad for mental health as well. Alcohol can be correlated with a huge percentage of crimes committed worldwide. The actual percentage number eludes me at this moment, but I highly suggest you Google that one. My personal experience with alcoholics has led me down a path of trouble every time. I know tons and tons of alcoholics and watch them do awful things that aren't even worth listing. But that's OK with you because society tells you it's OK.

About a year ago I got into a friendly (but very intense) discussion with a very good friend of mine from this site. He was insistent that I was a wacky pot smoking conspiracy theorist for thinking 9/11 was not the event we've been led to believe it is. Basically he thought the "official" story was what actually happened. It was a very strong discussion, but I suggested he at least take a look at the side of the story he was rejecting. There is no possible way to make an educated decision if you are not educated on both sides of the argument and you are always free to still maintain your original opinion once you have seen both sides, that is always your choice.

That person now shares the very same views as myself on the subject because he took the time to educate himself. That's not because my side is always right, I'm only human, but that's because I love FACTS and THE TRUTH and hesitate to get behind anything that shows me neither of those things. What you all fail to see is that I've not consciously decided to listen to only the less popular version of these scenarios, rather I look for video, photographic, and physical evidence that tells the actual TRUTH. I love the fact that you try to mock me for being a truthful person so by all means please continue. A mind who mocks the truth and facts will never be open to seeing them. I have shared some pretty big answers to some huge world problems on this site and very very few even take the time to see. You get back to your distraction (again you mock scooter but you can't even see it because you're still unaware) and look at me like a wacko, that's fine. Watch what the future brings. :-)

sledcrazyinCT
04-08-2017, 08:14 PM
Trump spoke on the campaign trail of how America under Obama showed the world weakness.....Trump on the campaign trail also spoke of how China/US relations will change and China and China alone can take care of North Korea.....So President Trump launches 60 tomahawk missiles at a Syria airbase while hosting dinner for Chinese President Xi Jinping on his first visit to America with Trump as POTUS.

Pretty bold statement without uttering a word suggesting that if North Korea continues with ballistic missile testing America will have no issue crippling said missile program.

El Camexican
04-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Trump spoke on the campaign trail of how America under Obama showed the world weakness.....Trump on the campaign trail also spoke of how China/US relations will change and China and China alone can take care of North Korea.....So President Trump launches 60 tomahawk missiles at a Syria airbase while hosting dinner for Chinese President Xi Jinping on his first visit to America with Trump as POTUS.

Pretty bold statement without uttering a word suggesting that if North Korea continues with ballistic missile testing America will have no issue crippling said missile program.

Strategically it was brilliant, almost too perfect. And now with reports that Russian planes may have delivered the gas you almost have to wonder if someone wasn't doing someone else a favor.

However, one pressing question remains regarding the meeting at Mar Lago and that is; what if anything did Jinping do to Donald's Coke when he wasn't looking?

sledcrazyinCT
04-09-2017, 09:04 AM
So if what you suggest is true regarding Assad not gassing that town then today's attack on the same town with conventional bombs by Assad just convinced me that all chemical weapons were destroyed years ago...... right in front of Obama's team and the UN......Assad is just a misunderstood leader who never killed 400,000 of his own people......No big deal if you kill non combatants with bullets and bombs just don't start using chemical weapons agaIn and that will keep you in good graces with the dumpster and his deplorables who just wanta make America great again

sledcrazyinCT
04-09-2017, 09:46 AM
What is the cost to the US when, after a couple of instances of ethnic or religious genocide/cleansing by some crackpot Dictaster, we as a nation are required by the Progressive media and politicians, church groups, and every other humanitarian organization to be "noble" and take in thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of refugees, immigrants, and victims of political persecution which are then dropped into the laps of taxpayers?

Why can't we just tell them to man up, grow some balls, defend yourselves, and save your own sh!thole country? Or would that be insensitive and uncaring?


Ask the rich elite really nicely to share all their money because "it's the fair thing to do" and then everybody can be "equal"?

Let's not forget that these are people who hate us. Are we somehow less evil because we bring them here and give them free sh!t? All of a sudden we're forgiven our real and/or perceived transgressions?

Maybe if we just sent millions or billions of dollars to the mideast they would forgive us......oh, wait a minute.



This video has some value, but the ones who could learn the most will ignore any relevance......And I mean the SJW people would disagree with the explanation of not taking in immigrants on a large scale..... certainly not suggesting anyone on the forum watching this would not be open to the POV even of they do not agree with how we as a nation should take on immigration policy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

fabiodriven
04-09-2017, 11:13 AM
So if what you suggest is true regarding Assad not gassing that town then today's attack on the same town with conventional bombs by Assad just convinced me that all chemical weapons were destroyed years ago...... right in front of Obama's team and the UN......Assad is just a misunderstood leader who never killed 400,000 of his own people......No big deal if you kill non combatants with bullets and bombs just don't start using chemical weapons agaIn and that will keep you in good graces with the dumpster and his deplorables who just wanta make America great again

Could you elaborate please? So we bombed them in the first place because someone gassed someone else, but now there never was a gassing? Am I getting that right?

Scootertrash
04-09-2017, 11:31 AM
The majority my comments are not directed at any one particular person.

Fabio, the problem between you and I is you will not let me have my "middle of the road" opinion.

My "smoke another bowl" comment was tongue in cheek, but it also generated the predictable response from you. Patterns aren't only applicable to others, you're quite predictable yourself. I've agreed the pot should be legalized and has medicinal properties that should be utilized, but the second I question if there could also be negative effects, I'm uninformed and ignorant of the facts, and I need to watch multiple more hours of "eye opening documentaries" so I become more educated on the "facts".

I admit that I feel that there is the possibility of other life forms, but question the validity of SOME of the "evidence" provided by self proclaimed "experts", and BINGO! I'm an ignorant pawn.

You want submission or surrender. You insult others who don't 100% hold the same views as you as ignorant, sheep, and pawns, while continually reminding everybody that you feel you're intellectually superior. Patterns and predictability again.

And again in your last post you insult me by inferring that I have no clue how debilitating alcohol abuse can be. Seriously?

My Grandfathers brother died at an early age due to his alcoholism. My grandfather was a light drinker, but quit drinking except a very occasional Near Beer due to what alcohol did to his brother. My wife's grandmother was an alcoholic and died young. One of her other relatives committed suicide due to an alcohol/depression combo. I have a small handful of friends who drink themselves into a sloppy puddle of mush every time they drink. One friend in particular drinks like a fish, smokes a pack and a half to two packs a day and smokes pot like we did in high school (pretty much all day every day, including at work) has had what I'll call "incidents" that he has told me about. He has described them as feeling like a mini-stroke or maybe a heart attack, short term memory loss and he now has a blind spot in his right eye (all symptoms of high blood pressure) that affects his driving, motorcycle riding and shooting skills. His daughter took him to the ER and they told him his blood pressure was thru the roof and he needed to be checked out. Myself and a couple other friends have told him to go get a check-up and find out what is wrong. He tells us: "If it ain't broke don't fix it." I told him "Yea that sh!ts normal." He just doesn't want to be told that he needs to get rid of the coffin nails (ciggy's) and booze. He has yet to go get an exam.

Yea, I need to google the negative effects of alcohol. :rolleyes:

I was born in 1960, so I was around for Vietnam, the race wars of the 60's, "Make love not war", "Tune in turn on", "Flower power", etc, etc, etc. Even tho I was only a child, I couldn't help but think how f'ed up sh!t was and why can't people get along. I've watched decades of "Revolutionaries" and "peaceful protesters" promoting peace, brotherhood and togetherness, all while inciting violence, all supported by a media that moved farther and farther left over the decades. I've watched the divide in this country grow over the last 8 years to levels I haven't seen since the mid 60's and early 70's, and it's still the white man's fault, especially if your a rich white man. So, am I a little jaded and skeptical of a rehashed, repackaged version of "We're all humans, we're all one people" mantra? F'n-A right I am. Same sh!t, different decade. But I'm just a grumpy old man, right?

There's a place in the middle where all can get along and be happy. That means accepting others opinions whether we agree 100% or not. I'm fine with you believing that ETs are the answer to all of our problems. Me? I'll believe it when I see it, if I'm around to see it.

You keep on telling me I'm an ignorant sheep. I'll take it as a compliment for not blindly jumping on every bandwagon that rolls thru town.

“Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear.”
― Edgar Allan Poe

ironchop
04-09-2017, 11:46 AM
Yeah 80 dead people constitutes a massacre and therefore using bombs and the incredible collateral damage they cause like more dead women and children is somehow justified? I'm so tired of punk politicians crying "those poor little children" as an excuse to cruise-missile an entire neighborhood of people because four "terrorists" live at the end of the block.....That's the stupidest reasoning I've ever heard. That would be like the Federales bombing Nico's neighborhood to get rid of the
Narcos causing all that violence.

Scooter, I took no offense by that statement but you need to know that I didn't get my info from "sources under the condition of anonymity" or disgruntled ex-employeez....now since I don't take media claims as fact at all, I decided to read a small portion of the WikiLeaks and other offerings as much as time allows because there are literally hundreds of thousands of documents available. Government documents. You can't just take Assange or Snowdens word for it. You got to read the stuff. I can tell you that it confirms many "conspiracy theories" and opens the door for many more. That's where I get my info.

We are all friends so we can have an actual discussion here without it turning into face-dook. This is the only place in know of like that even though alot of what we say is merely echo-chamber stuff (everyone agrees mostly)

The whole thing is BS. I remember when we used to do investigations to try and find culprits. Now the media is magically endowed with prosecutorial powers and are therefore, the final word in guilt and blame. Anything that pleases that hack traitor fake conservative John McCain and that fake hack liberal War Horse Billary Klunton can be automatically assumed to be bad for everyone but the bomb shelter refugees from Congress and right now, both those viperous whores are cheering how Trump has seen the light. THAT alone is enough to convince me he made a grave mistake.

It's especially ironic considering liberal voters are saying "see we knew Trump would start a war" even thought THEIR choice, Mrs. Clintwaffle, has been screaming for war since before the election. Sometimes I think Liberals are largely disconnected from reality because that's the only explanation for supporting murderous hypocrisy while rabidly claiming to be the party of human rights and dignity.....Because bombs and drones equals "dignified war"

You don't bomb unless you want huge casualty rates and huge collateral damage. If you want to remove ppl from power, you send in the troops. Troops are more focused and selective. Bombs are not....And WHO in their right mind thinks bombs kill high-level officials. Do our own high-level officials stand out in the rain and wait to get wet? No. So why do we assume high-level officials in belligerent governments stand out in the yard and wait to get hit by bombs? No, they hide in bunkers while innocents die just like our own POS "leaders" so bombs, outside of leveling weapon factories are truly just meant for the highest body count.

If we bombed every government that murdered 80 of their citizens, we would be at war with China, Russia, most all "communist" or "socialist" governments and many who aren't. This whole "it's to save the innocent children" is a weak and pathetic argument imo.

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ironchop
04-09-2017, 11:53 AM
This video has some value, but the ones who could learn the most will ignore any relevance......And I mean the SJW people would disagree with the explanation of not taking in immigrants on a large scale..... certainly not suggesting anyone on the forum watching this would not be open to the POV even of they do not agree with how we as a nation should take on immigration policy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Best explanation I've ever seen. I'm going to spread this around. Thanks.

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El Camexican
04-09-2017, 12:08 PM
That is a great video.

The simplest fix I can think of for many of the problems in the world is for all the sh^t hole countries to adopt a constitution similar to that of the USA and follow it to the letter (you may want to try it yourselves :lol:)

The problem with that is that it would require ousting the bastards that are have created the problems in the first place. Corruption and greed is what holds back nations, be it from within or around, the effect is the same.

Scootertrash
04-09-2017, 01:05 PM
This video has some value, but the ones who could learn the most will ignore any relevance......And I mean the SJW people would disagree with the explanation of not taking in immigrants on a large scale..... certainly not suggesting anyone on the forum watching this would not be open to the POV even of they do not agree with how we as a nation should take on immigration policy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE



Seen that one before, matter of fact I think I may have posted it here a year or 3 ago. Good to revisit it tho. ;)

3 Wheel Drive
04-09-2017, 02:13 PM
How much is gas in CA today? A few months ago I recall gas was much cheaper in CA than WA.

I just filled up at Costco for 2.50 a gallon for 87 octane in WA. My liscence tabs are 300 this year compaired to 60 last year....fuk taxes!

El Camexican
04-09-2017, 03:13 PM
This is a real DUHHHHHH moment .........but it`s typical......show the kids with colorful balls maybe they will understand .....20yrs ago the wife says to me .....hey all the kids at school get free lunch and they`re all Mexican ....and then she explains that the district gets funded by the numbers of children at school each day ........and we've been footing the bill for many yrs. ! ......and thats why Ca. wants to be a "sanctuary state" ....so they can continue to waste our tax dollars......and now they got .10 a gallon gas tax increase for road improvements .....when we already have the highest gas prices in the country ! .....it`s not funny .....it`s not fun !

The bridge in Laredo is packed to the gills every morning with Mexican parents bringing Mexican children into the USA for a free education. How is this done? Very easily; groups of parents get together and rent apartments in Laredo and then register hundreds of children to the same address. That is all it takes. No one guarding the border, and no one in the school system gives a flying frack that this is happening.

Is this all the fault of the Mexicans? I don't think so. I have little doubt that the same Americans that were running across the border to fill up in Mexico when you hit four dollars a gallon a few years back wouldn't do the same thing if the Mexican education system was superior and they could get their children into it for virtually nothing. The difference is the Mexican system sucks and nobody down here is stupid enough to let someone from another country take advantage of them like.

It's the same song that we've all been singing for a long time; enforce the rules that are in place and all this garbage gets cleaned up very quickly. It's your panty waist self serving politicians that are letting all of this sh*t happen.

El Camexican
04-09-2017, 03:17 PM
Seen that one before, matter of fact I think I may have posted it here a year or 3 ago. Good to revisit it tho. ;)

Thank God the guy didn't use any black or brown ones. Can you imagine the outrage from the left had he done so?

fabiodriven
04-09-2017, 10:46 PM
The majority my comments are not directed at any one particular person.

Fabio, the problem between you and I is you will not let me have my "middle of the road" opinion.

My "smoke another bowl" comment was tongue in cheek, but it also generated the predictable response from you. Patterns aren't only applicable to others, you're quite predictable yourself. I've agreed the pot should be legalized and has medicinal properties that should be utilized, but the second I question if there could also be negative effects, I'm uninformed and ignorant of the facts, and I need to watch multiple more hours of "eye opening documentaries" so I become more educated on the "facts".

I admit that I feel that there is the possibility of other life forms, but question the validity of SOME of the "evidence" provided by self proclaimed "experts", and BINGO! I'm an ignorant pawn.

You want submission or surrender. You insult others who don't 100% hold the same views as you as ignorant, sheep, and pawns, while continually reminding everybody that you feel you're intellectually superior. Patterns and predictability again.

And again in your last post you insult me by inferring that I have no clue how debilitating alcohol abuse can be. Seriously?

My Grandfathers brother died at an early age due to his alcoholism. My grandfather was a light drinker, but quit drinking except a very occasional Near Beer due to what alcohol did to his brother. My wife's grandmother was an alcoholic and died young. One of her other relatives committed suicide due to an alcohol/depression combo. I have a small handful of friends who drink themselves into a sloppy puddle of mush every time they drink. One friend in particular drinks like a fish, smokes a pack and a half to two packs a day and smokes pot like we did in high school (pretty much all day every day, including at work) has had what I'll call "incidents" that he has told me about. He has described them as feeling like a mini-stroke or maybe a heart attack, short term memory loss and he now has a blind spot in his right eye (all symptoms of high blood pressure) that affects his driving, motorcycle riding and shooting skills. His daughter took him to the ER and they told him his blood pressure was thru the roof and he needed to be checked out. Myself and a couple other friends have told him to go get a check-up and find out what is wrong. He tells us: "If it ain't broke don't fix it." I told him "Yea that sh!ts normal." He just doesn't want to be told that he needs to get rid of the coffin nails (ciggy's) and booze. He has yet to go get an exam.

Yea, I need to google the negative effects of alcohol. :rolleyes:

I was born in 1960, so I was around for Vietnam, the race wars of the 60's, "Make love not war", "Tune in turn on", "Flower power", etc, etc, etc. Even tho I was only a child, I couldn't help but think how f'ed up sh!t was and why can't people get along. I've watched decades of "Revolutionaries" and "peaceful protesters" promoting peace, brotherhood and togetherness, all while inciting violence, all supported by a media that moved farther and farther left over the decades. I've watched the divide in this country grow over the last 8 years to levels I haven't seen since the mid 60's and early 70's, and it's still the white man's fault, especially if your a rich white man. So, am I a little jaded and skeptical of a rehashed, repackaged version of "We're all humans, we're all one people" mantra? F'n-A right I am. Same sh!t, different decade. But I'm just a grumpy old man, right?

There's a place in the middle where all can get along and be happy. That means accepting others opinions whether we agree 100% or not. I'm fine with you believing that ETs are the answer to all of our problems. Me? I'll believe it when I see it, if I'm around to see it.

You keep on telling me I'm an ignorant sheep. I'll take it as a compliment for not blindly jumping on every bandwagon that rolls thru town.

“Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear.”
― Edgar Allan Poe

Scooter thank you for taking the time to elaborate. I'm going to attempt to be brief as I'm sure everyone is over this.

You take offense of me calling you ignorant, however it is you who chooses to be that way in the context of what it is I say. I do not say it to insult you, I say it to prod you, because regardless of what you might think I value your educated opinion very much. It's your uneducated opinion I can do without. It bothers me not at all that we disagree, not in the slightest, and it also doesn't bother me that you think in a completely different way as I. These are not my problems at all. My problem is when you reference things I say from the standpoint of ignorance, which regardless of whether or not you feel insulted by my saying so, that is not me trying to insult you. I always ask that all included in my discussions be educated, yet you inherently always feel the need to add your .02 even though you have no idea what it is you're talking about. When an unintelligent person says something unintelligent, I can easily overlook that and get past it. What grinds my gears is when someone INTELLIGENT, such as yourself, refuses to even brush up on the material which is being discussed then has to offer his counter point, which never makes any sense because you've clearly not familiarized yourself with the subject at hand. I have found myself in the biggest of disagreements over the last few years (off the boards) with those I hold closest, to the point that I had to ask myself why this was. I believe this is because I hold my most intelligent of friends the closest, and I definitely hold them to a higher standard. I have many friends, some not all that smart. When they fark up, it's expected. Conversely, when I see my very smartest of friends fark up, the disappointment rattles me because I feel they should know better. I hold you to a higher standard and I expect more. I really don't think it's much to ask for you to be educated on the subject at hand or not reply at all, but I hope you do.

What you're misunderstanding is that it doesn't bother me at all that you and I disagree and I love it when you post in my threads or we discuss things in other threads, such as this one. What does bother me is that your reasons are all wrong and don't even make any sense, and that's not because you're stupid (you're not), not because I don't like you (I do like you), and not because you're a pawn (that's a fib). It bothers me because you're smart enough to understand the material at hand but refuse to even look at it (as shown by your own words and replies which again, make no sense) yet must be my counter point. And very often an ignorant one. If that offends you then educate yourself and I'll have nothing to say. I really really really would love to see what you'd have to say about what it is I'd like you to see.

I understand, I'm just a hippie to you. I understand how you might be jaded to such a movement, however the hippies that came before me lacked severely in departments which the current people do not; education and proof. Chuckle all you want about your "innocent" remarks about my personal character, but I had no need to give you jabs on your home life. I have endless points to make before I take jabs at whatever it is you do at home. If you've run out of points to make then I suppose whatever you deem less than endearing of my character becomes fair play to you. Doug's older than me, but I don't think he's quite as old as you (not sure anyone is), but he's capable of seeing things that you could as well if you'd just look. You don't want to look, fine, don't. But don't comment. I'd much rather you look. As I've said already, you can look at things and if you don't like them then just keep your original point of view. You stand to lose nothing and gain everything, knowledge is power.

Now here I sit in Nico's thread, IGNORANT, trying to have a say but asking some questions, because I have chosen not to get my information from the places that want to cram it down my throat. It will come to me as it always does. I have spoken to this subject based on my personal experience and my very lonely island is one of peace. I've taken jabs for being a proponent of the truth and facts, and now for being an advocate of peace. If I'm not mistaken, whatever reasons you guys were jumping for joy that someplace got bombed was just tossed right out the window. So what are you behind now? Are you questioning your sources, or the reasons you were given? Are you questioning what you've been told, or your own thoughts while you were lied to? Does it anger you that you were lied to again? Do you question yourself ever? No, no of course not. It's already happened, nothing can be done, who cares, time to water the lawn, life goes on. For you. Not for those who put their lives on the line and get killed every day when none of this has to happen. All I'm doing is trying to point out there is another way, but nobody cares, but you're not supposed to care, and you're not supposed to be aware that you're not supposed to care, so you don't care. They've already gotten what they wanted. They wanted to send missiles over and they did just that. Now it's over and done with and what are you going to do about it even if you did have a problem with it? It doesn't matter what their reasoning is now, they've already gotten away with whatever it is they wanted to get away with. On to the next status update, text message, pizza, football game. You just got lied to again, and I told you so (not aimed just at you Scooterino). And nobody cares. People vaporized off the face of the planet at a monetary cost I am sure could have fed thousands of families for years to come, presumably under false pretense now, just another day.

It's just another day because nobody will do anything about it. At the very least I CARE. Very few other people even care. I have grown extremely familiar with the law of attraction over the last few years and it is nothing short of amazing what I've been able to do with it. Coupled with real things you can hold in your hand backed by science and evidence (something a lot of you seem to have a problem with, yet refuse to believe you live in a make-believe reality) such as quantum physics and quantum theory, there is no doubt in my mind we can save this planet we've turned into such a turd. The law of attraction is such a powerful thing, it truly is, and I impress myself with what I can manifest using it. From what I've learned, the energy we could all put forth if we all willed for things to be better than they are would be unstoppable. I know what educating myself in this field has done for me, and I can only imagine what it would do if it were multiplied by millions or billions of people all with good will and all aiming for peace. This thread is proof positive. So many people with so many answers, yet the notion of peace is laughed at. Isn't that something? Can you see that, or does your brain block that? Everyone is OK with that though, again, because you're supposed to be. And I bet that offends you that I say that, because it's supposed to. Not because I intend it to, because you're programmed to protect that thought.

So much for brief...

ironchop
04-10-2017, 09:07 AM
^^^ You spelled Fresca wrong.

Nico, ppl here just look the other way or openly promote this lawlessness for several reasons:

1) low-priced lawn care and labor (yup, that's racist)

2) Pathological Altruism makes them feel worthy in the Twitterverse and Facebookland. That's why they're always pointing out how caring they are.

3) how else could you import over a million new Democratic party voters into the US every year.

4) people who hate conservatives so much that no matter how ridiculous and short-sighted a liberal policy is, if it infuriates a Republican, then they're behind it 100% (yup, it's petty but it happens) no questions asked.... Literally.

5) white guilt.....Because some people will believe anything they hear on TV or in a university auditorium

6) racism...... Yeah these nitwits have no idea that it's racist to assume everyone with brown skin needs a white man's help to achieve greatness. It's also racist and patronizing to use ppl of color as your "social justice" pet project. White hetero ppl love to speak for ppl of color and homosexuals... Especially to other white ppl....It's virtue-signalling within their peer group. I wouldn't know I was such a racist if it weren't for white TV news anchors and white college professors or white ladies dressed up to look black from the local NAACP chapter telling me about my priveledge and whatnot.....But I digress.

Point is that most of their enjoyed support for unchecked immigration is for purely selfish and self-centered reasons. This is why they have to scream, holler, call names and such to justify this self-serving load of dookie.

"I wanna be on the right side of history" is what a desperately irrelevant person says to try to make themselves feel significant to others.....It never was about "helping"....It's always been about self-worship

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El Camexican
04-10-2017, 09:24 AM
^^^ You spelled Fresca wrong.

Nico, ppl here just look the other way or openly promote this lawlessness for several reasons:

1) low-priced lawn care and labor (yup, that's racist)

2) Pathological Altruism makes them feel worthy in the Twitterverse and Facebookland. That's why they're always pointing out how caring they are.

3) how else could you import over a million new Democratic party voters into the US every year.

4) people who hate conservatives so much that no matter how ridiculous and short-sighted a liberal policy is, if it infuriates a Republican, then they're behind it 100% (yup, it's petty but it happens) no questions asked.... Literally.

5) white guilt.....Because some people will believe anything they hear on TV or in a university auditorium

6) racism...... Yeah these nitwits have no idea that it's racist to assume everyone with brown skin needs a white man's help to achieve greatness. It's also racist and patronizing to use ppl of color as your "social justice" pet project. White hetero ppl love to speak for ppl of color and homosexuals... Especially to other white ppl....It's virtue-signalling within their peer group. I wouldn't know I was such a racist if it weren't for white TV news anchors and white college professors or white ladies dressed up to look black from the local NAACP chapter telling me about my priveledge and whatnot.....But I digress.

Point is that most of their enjoyed support for unchecked immigration is for purely selfish and self-centered reasons. This is why they have to scream, holler, call names and such to justify this self-serving load of dookie.

"I wanna be on the right side of history" is what a desperately irrelevant person says to try to make themselves feel significant to others.....It never was about "helping"....It's always been about self-worship

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Here’s another issue no one seems to be trying to stop: Polygamy

There are literally thousands of people living in these communities in the USA and sucking the government tit. One man marries one woman legally and a half dozen more off the books and breeds them like rabbits. All the non-legit, or "sister" wives apply for welfare benefits and daddy gets the checks. Swimming pools, movies stars, oh what a blessed life the Father (and Uncle Sam) has bestowed upon them.

The girls go back into the gene pool as soon as they start to bleed and the boys get dropped off on the side of the road with instructions of “Suck, don’t blow, it’s only an expression” before they get a chance to use their “special purpose” on anyone’s future bride. They eventually make it to the nearest big city and get carriers on Craigslist.

So if one considers the many ways there are to spend tax dollars I guess educating Mexicans with them isn’t the worst way to waste them.:lol:

ironchop
04-10-2017, 09:47 AM
Here’s another issue no one seems to be trying to stop: Polygamy

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Yeah I don't get polygamy. I have a wife and two daughters. That's all the women I can possibly tolerate living with in the same house and I barely skated thru all that without having a stroke.

Seems more akin to punching oneself repeatedly in the face.



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fabiodriven
04-10-2017, 10:12 AM
Just for clarification, polygamy is not the problem. Yes those men pulling that scam are polygamous, however that's far from a representation of the entire population that calls themselves polygamous.

El Camexican
04-10-2017, 10:50 AM
Just for clarification, polygamy is not the problem. Yes those men pulling that scam are polygamous, however that's far from a representation of the entire population that calls themselves polygamous.

True, but like everything else, one bad apple taints the whole barrel and there are other sectors of the population scamming your systems as well. I thought it was hilarious that Florida lost their bid to make those on social assistance pee in a cup to get a check. How fracked up is it that someone can collect social assistance without any obligation to the State? Canada is even worse in that aspect. The amount of able-bodied kids wandering around at night high as all hell and committing petty crimes for spare change before they return to their tax payer funded dwellings before the sun rise is sickening. Meanwhile people with rear disabilities are being nickel and dimed on benefits.

El Camexican
04-10-2017, 10:52 AM
Yeah I don't get polygamy. I have a wife and two daughters. That's all the women I can possibly tolerate living with in the same house and I barely skated thru all that without having a stroke.

Seems more akin to punching oneself repeatedly in the face.



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Amen to that. One causes more grief than I can handle on most days :lol:

Scootertrash
04-11-2017, 09:41 PM
Emkay......is it alright if i don`t kiss your arse scooter ? .....when you were a freshman in HIGH school i was a senior ......i`d give you a wedgie and slipp some LSD in your FRESCA ! ........but you didn`t fight the blacks in school cause your mom made sure you went to private school or predominantly white school ......and you were a good boy .....isn't that right scooter ? ......while your friends were having shotgun parties you were helping your mom bring the groceries in from the station wagon .......and Jerry Mathers .......as the Beaver !............gee Mrs. Cleaver your legs sure looks swell today !.......but he didn't inhale ....fabs.......oh no ......and he`s not about to think outside the box now ......not with his big pension coming up and never mind the possibility of dropping dead the day after retirement !........da money da money ........da moneys mine........how bout some Disco ......he got whacked out for the money .....whacked out hard for it honey .....so you better treat him right..... Donna Summer ....yea ! ......it`s all about the money....

241908

Does your arsehole ever get jealous of the crap that comes out of your mouth?

tripledog
04-11-2017, 10:16 PM
241908

Does your arsehole ever get jealous of the crap that comes out of your mouth?

Does Uranus have Klingons?

Scootertrash
04-12-2017, 07:38 AM
Nah, they were wiped out.

El Camexican
04-12-2017, 07:52 AM
Nah, they were wiped out.

No doubt by one of the tribes from the Flushdownian system. Was it the Tissuonians or the Paperodites? Both have been known to commit asstrocities on the outer rim of the assteroid belt.

Scootertrash
04-12-2017, 10:38 AM
It was in the papers

Scootertrash
04-12-2017, 01:10 PM
I appreciate the cheeky comments. You guys crack me up.

Scootertrash
04-13-2017, 10:33 PM
As much as yours is in Fabios.

Interesting how a majority of your little outbursts and rants reveal your latent homosexual tendencies. It must be lonely in that closet.

El Camexican
04-14-2017, 04:53 AM
It must be lonely in that closet.

I hear it's lonely on the top... but it's got to be better than being on the bottom.

Scootertrash
04-14-2017, 09:08 PM
If you insist.....

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