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Mach-10
09-11-2018, 08:28 PM
So I found the trike that my grandpa used to own. It is a 1984 honda 200 big red. This is Three Wheeler I learned to ride on. My grandfather sold in back in the early 90s in order to get a four wheeler. My father told the guy that owned it that I was getting into three wheelers and he offered to sell it to me for 300.00. First of all I just recently found out where it was and second of all I never thought he would sell it cause he likes to keep what he has like a lot of us in these forums 😀. Over the phone he told me it was a good runner but needed a gas tank. For 300.00 I figured it had sat outside for the last 25 years but I was impressed the shape it was in. I am going to try and pick it up tommorow after I get home from work. Below is the picture I took of it while I was there. Needless to say I am more then a little excited I found my grandfathers old three wheeer.

Rob Canadian
09-11-2018, 08:43 PM
Very cool story and history of your Big Red.

Looks still to be in very good condition. I feel your excitement. :)

bkvette3
09-11-2018, 09:03 PM
Awesome story - a new gas tank and a little detailing and that Big Red will shine. Will be a nice trike with family ties that goes right back to the beginning. We await for more pics when you get it home. Enjoy the ride.

Mach-10
09-13-2018, 09:50 PM
Thanks! I will definitely start putting pictures up. For the gas tank I have a few questions.

1. The one I have is a 1984 200es. Are the other 1984 200 series (I.E. the 200m and 200s ) the same tank? Or are they shapped differently ? I tried looking at the differant models on-line and couldn’t tell. I am starting to think finding a tank in decent shape may require patience 😕.

2. Where can I get a graphics kit for it? I have been looking on-line and can’t seem to find one. I am hoping there is a place that still has these.

Thank you for your time.

floydechoes2000
09-14-2018, 08:33 PM
Not sure if the tanks are the same between models but here's some info on the decals... http://forums.justbigreds.com/post/full-decal-set-for-1984-es-9833569?pid=1305339785

Mach-10
09-14-2018, 09:57 PM
That’s what I was looking for. Thank you. I am going to do the basics with oil and carberator tomorrow evening and see if it fires up! Work keeps getting in the way of me working in it. Need to get my priorities straight and quit my job ��

200Maniac
09-14-2018, 10:29 PM
Would bet 200m is identical.. 200s might be smaller? But the 200s looks more the part with the blue decals.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tblazier/16308964498

83 big red, 84/85 200m for sure .. lots of those sold though , so probably not the worst bike to find parts for..

Dirtcrasher
09-15-2018, 09:02 PM
That's awesome!!

So many of us want back what we once learned on or had owned, and that's a needle in a haystack!!

When I learned at 13 y.o. I had a 1973 XR75. WOW, what it was like to ride that on my Grandpa's farm and it was parallel to the road so I thought I was showing everyone how much fun I was having and how fast it was :lol:

bkvette3
09-16-2018, 08:32 AM
Just thought I would pass this along - someone parting out a '84 200es - here in Canada. Gas tank might be good.


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-atv/edmonton/honda-atc-big-red-200es-trike-for-parts/1384218062?enable

Mach-10
09-16-2018, 08:51 AM
Sweet. Thanks for the link. It is really appricated. I have not found much of anything yet. I sent them a message.

schlepp29
09-16-2018, 10:31 AM
I think there's a company named blue line graphics. I hope that name is right. From what I saw there graphics look nice! Atc heaven is good to

200Maniac
09-18-2018, 01:14 PM
Sweet. Thanks for the link. It is really appricated. I have not found much of anything yet. I sent them a message.

Yeah Kijiji is pretty much best place... check out southern ontario if your in PA,''

This dude says tanks ~$175 CAD:
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-atv/st-catharines/honda-three-wheeler-atc-parts-various-models/1383389939?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


Not a tank, but just saw this: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-atv-parts-trailer-accessories/st-catharines/honda-atc-trailer/1383984253?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true.

Not sure I'd pay that for it..

Mach-10
09-18-2018, 01:58 PM
Thanks again for the links. The first one you sent they never responded after I sent them a message.

I think 175 CAD is about 135 US? I will send them a message and see what they have.

The cart is really neat but I am with you, I don’t think I would pay that much for it.

200Maniac
09-18-2018, 04:04 PM
Thanks again for the links. The first one you sent they never responded after I sent them a message.

I think 175 CAD is about 135 US? I will send them a message and see what they have.

The cart is really neat but I am with you, I don’t think I would pay that much for it.

There's a 200m tank in one of the pics.. Buy it now before the border is shut down. :wondering


I'd say put a 200x tank on.. the air scoops deflect air down for easier wheelies :naughty:

200Maniac
09-18-2018, 04:14 PM
Thanks again for the links. The first one you sent they never responded after I sent them a message.

I think 175 CAD is about 135 US? I will send them a message and see what they have.

The cart is really neat but I am with you, I don’t think I would pay that much for it.

Yeah trailer is neat - saw them in the brochures way back in the day. Kinda cool. Most people in our area just had homemade jobbies that were pretty stout.

Mach-10
09-18-2018, 05:10 PM
I contacted them and they never shipped to the US. They are going to check the postage and let me know.

Mach-10
09-26-2018, 07:37 PM
I need a fuel line and it appears to be 4.5 mm. Do the 1/4 in ones at local shops work?

floydechoes2000
09-26-2018, 08:37 PM
1/4 =6.35mm. 4.5mm doesn't sound right but I don't know for sure although I think you want 1/4". I like Tygon tubing, it's clear and doesn't harden as quickly as black hose. It's cheap enough to pick up a couple feet of 1/4 and 5/16 and be set for a while. I got mine at Napa.

Mach-10
09-26-2018, 08:44 PM
Thank you. 4.5 prob isn’t right. Lol.

200Maniac
09-26-2018, 09:44 PM
5.5mm maybe? ATC 70 is.. https://phatmx.com/collections/atc70-engine/products/1-4-fuel-line

On my 86 trx 70 the generic 1/4" fuel lines work, but could be tighter on the tank and carb petcock connection. Used tiny hose clamp to tighten down (screw ones). The 1/4" pinch/squeeze clamps didn't squeeze tight enough.

Big G
09-27-2018, 05:00 PM
Such a cool story - thanks for sharing. I'd say it would be well worth the cost to get a proper tank for it though - it just doesn't do the trike justice as is.

Mach-10
09-27-2018, 05:48 PM
Such a cool story - thanks for sharing. I'd say it would be well worth the cost to get a proper tank for it though - it just doesn't do the trike justice as is.

I agree. I am slowly working on it. Finding a tank in good shape is harder then I thought it would be. Finding more 200m tanks then 200 es.

floydechoes2000
09-27-2018, 08:03 PM
I have a tank from an 83 Big Red with one tiny pinhole near the seat. It's also a little rusty where knees have rubbed it. It can be fixed though. If you want I'll get pics tomorrow.

Mach-10
09-28-2018, 06:48 AM
Sure. I’ll take a look at it. Is the 83 the same size and shape? So far I have just been looking for 1984 200es and 200m tanks. Thanks.

floydechoes2000
09-28-2018, 07:46 AM
Yes, I believe it's identical. 83 tank graphics are also very similar to 84. I'll take some pics when it stops raining.

floydechoes2000
09-28-2018, 08:41 PM
Sorry to leave you hanging Mach-10, I thought I had my mind made up to part out the 83 but after riding it around a little for the first time today I kind of want to fix it up, it runs really good. If I change my mind I'll definitely let you know.

I'm fairly certain 82-84 tanks will all work fine, hopefully that helps your search.

Mach-10
09-28-2018, 09:36 PM
Sorry to leave you hanging Mach-10, I thought I had my mind made up to part out the 83 but after riding it around a little for the first time today I kind of want to fix it up, it runs really good. If I change my mind I'll definitely let you know.

I'm fairly certain 82-84 tanks will all work fine, hopefully that helps your search.

No problem. That is 100% understandable. I would have too lol.

Mach-10
10-03-2018, 11:47 AM
I am having fuel issues so I am going to get a carb kit. Any recomondations on what brand of kit to get ? Are the cheep eBay ones alright to use or do they cause more harm then good? Thanks.

bkvette3
10-03-2018, 09:36 PM
I used all Honda OEM parts to rebuild the carb of my '84 200es. Purchased from my local Honda dealership. Runs perfect. Wouldn't waste my time with cheap Ebay crap. JMHO.

Mach-10
10-08-2018, 03:45 PM
I finally got a tank !!! No dents or dings. It’s a 200m tank so I will have to get decals for it. The inside is a little rusty but not too bad. I have the Apple cider vinager in it now. From what I have been reading there are several ways to stop it from flash rusting. I have seen water and backing soda. Desil fuel. WD-40. What do some of you use in order to get rid of rust and to prevent it from rusting? Thanks.

Big G
10-10-2018, 06:20 PM
Flash rusting is the most critical part of the apple cider vinegar method, from my own experience. What I do is have a mix of DISTILLED WATER (not from the tap) and baking soda ready to go in a container (at least 4 liters of the mix or so). Once I've dumped out the vinegar, I immediately dump in the mix and swish it around, dump it out, swish it around, dump it out, and so on until you feel like you've "rinsed" out all the vinegar. Here's the next important step - dry out the tank right away! Grab your wife's hair dryer or something similar and make sure the tank is completely dry. This will help cut back on flash rust as well. Now if you're gonna use the tank right away, fill it right up with gas and it's ready to go. If you're gonna let it sit for a while, then add some diesel, 2stroke fuel mix, oil mix, etc and swish the tank around. When you're ready to use it dump that mix out and add fuel and it will be ready to go!

Mach-10
10-11-2018, 10:42 AM
Flash rusting is the most critical part of the apple cider vinegar method, from my own experience. What I do is have a mix of DISTILLED WATER (not from the tap) and baking soda ready to go in a container (at least 4 liters of the mix or so). Once I've dumped out the vinegar, I immediately dump in the mix and swish it around, dump it out, swish it around, dump it out, and so on until you feel like you've "rinsed" out all the vinegar. Here's the next important step - dry out the tank right away! Grab your wife's hair dryer or something similar and make sure the tank is completely dry. This will help cut back on flash rust as well. Now if you're gonna use the tank right away, fill it right up with gas and it's ready to go. If you're gonna let it sit for a while, then add some diesel, 2stroke fuel mix, oil mix, etc and swish the tank around. When you're ready to use it dump that mix out and add fuel and it will be ready to go!

Thanks for the response. I did that but did not dry it completely before coating it with diesel and I had a little bit of rust come back. Especially the cap.