Opinions on these tires for 3 wheelers

[patblkwell]

Hey guys, I'm looking to put a new set of tires on my Yamaha 225dr....have any of you had any experience with these? I can get a set of them for a pretty good price, so just curious how they would be for general trail riding and light mud and occasional light sand. Thanks

https://www.ebay.com/p/2-Deestone-D930-22x11-8-22x11x8-4-Ply-M-t-ATV-UTV-Mud-Tires/1111833088?iid=391665704985&chn=ps

[jb2wheels]

I recently had an 86 350X I refreshed and it had a pair of similar tires on the back.

I thought they were kind of ugly and dorky looking back in the 80s but I found they worked really well for me in the sand dunes and trails at Little Sahara OK.
I liked them enough I was shopping for another pair because mine were dry rotted and slow leaking.

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At $50 each with free shipping, you could do worse:
https://simpletire.com/deestone-22-11.00-9-ds7345-tires?stmodel=d930&stcategory=other&sttype=atv-utv&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwYidpK7i2gIVTCSBCh0dfA1EEAQYASAB EgLb4vD_BwE

[Gabriel]

I have them on 3 different trikes and really like them. There's better tires but NOT for the money.

[patblkwell]

I have them on 3 different trikes and really like them. There's better tires but NOT for the money.Cool yeah the price is hard to beat, I actually found a set of 3 of them I can get for around $130 shipped [emoji41]

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[Gabriel]

That ain't bad. Got mine a little cheaper (perks of a family owned tire shop) but that ain't a bad price at all.

[atc300r]

Some of our local Walmarts sell those.

[ps2fixer]

Ever so slightly different from the ones I have experience with (250es), but overall works well. Seems the ones with the curved tred are good. I had another set that were stright tred on a 350x, and in sand doing donuts it was a little unpredictable, I got bucked off one and hated that exact tire since. The tractor center trade was spaced out a lot more, so it gripped a lot when flat, but any tilt it would spin easy on the knobs. The 250es didn't really have the power/lightness to do what I was doing with the 350x, so never had a problem with either style on a lower powered machine.

Here's a photo of the tires the bucked me, the 350x came with them, but I have like 3 or 4 sets of them lol. Last photo shows just how common they were around my area. The 250sx seems to do just fine with them (22in just like the 350x ones). 250es has 25in version and they do fine too.

[patblkwell]

Ever so slightly different from the ones I have experience with (250es), but overall works well. Seems the ones with the curved tred are good. I had another set that were stright tred on a 350x, and in sand doing donuts it was a little unpredictable, I got bucked off one and hated that exact tire since. The tractor center trade was spaced out a lot more, so it gripped a lot when flat, but any tilt it would spin easy on the knobs. The 250es didn't really have the power/lightness to do what I was doing with the 350x, so never had a problem with either style on a lower powered machine.

Here's a photo of the tires the bucked me, the 350x came with them, but I have like 3 or 4 sets of them lol. Last photo shows just how common they were around my area. The 250sx seems to do just fine with them (22in just like the 350x ones). 250es has 25in version and they do fine too.

Very good information, I appreciate it. I think the tires on your bikes are those classic striker types that of been around for a while. I think they might've been called Wooly boogers years ago ha ha. I'm also looking at these as well, they are 12 inches wide which may help provide a little stability and have the good tread pattern as well. https://www.ebay.com/itm/263943627416


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[ps2fixer]

Yea pretty sure that's the name on them. Not a fan for them for a 250r or 350x, but anything else should be fine. I have one set of the curved tred style like the OP is looking at and the tred is tighter together in the center, so I don't think they have the same flaws.

Guess I should mention the striker tires are not exactly soft riding, far from an old school 3 wheeler tire. All the machines I have them on have suspension.

Edit, another thread I'm follow has the exact tires I'm talking about for the curved tred style. They are a softer compound so probably ride better, tighter tred so less unpredictable like the others I mentioned before. Probably about the same end result as the OP tires.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/186763-200ES-build?p=1486113#post1486113

[patblkwell]

Yeah I'm glad my bike has rear suspension otherwise I would have to get some soft balloon knobbys or something...

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[ps2fixer]

Yeah I'm glad my bike has rear suspension otherwise I would have to get some soft balloon knobbys or something...

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Yea, the 200es in that last pic of mine I rode the snot out of with those rear tires. Super cheap but no softness to them. I just adjusted my riding style to them, and I switched to a 250es as my primary rider machine pretty quick, #1 reason was suspension, #2 was bigger engine lol.

[jb2wheels]

A little off topic but if you need a similar but soft tire, I like the Cheng Shin C828 "Lumberjack".
It's a 2 ply tire like they're 829 knobbies.
I had these on a 90/110 hybrid and I liked them.

They were cheaper when I bought them...
https://www.denniskirk.com/cheng-shin/front-or-rear-c828-lumberjack-22x11-8-tire-tm00577100.p54776.prd/54776.sku

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[ps2fixer]

A little off topic but if you need a similar but soft tire, I like the Cheng Shin C828 "Lumberjack".
It's a 2 ply tire like they're 829 knobbies.
I had these on a 90/110 hybrid and I liked them.

They were cheaper when I bought them...
https://www.denniskirk.com/cheng-shin/front-or-rear-c828-lumberjack-22x11-8-tire-tm00577100.p54776.prd/54776.sku

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Oh dang, I have a 250es with a set of those too. Didn't get to ride it a whole lot, but yea they seemed quite soft. Out of the 3 I commented on, I'd say they would be the best ride. The ones that bucked me probably have the most grip though (deepest, most spaced out tred).

[patblkwell]

I think I've decided to go with these... I like the tread pattern and they are an inch wider than normal tires.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F26 3943627416



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[ps2fixer]

Yea I'd agree those would be better than the orig link. That's the 2nd tire I was talking about in my first post. Soft enough to give an ok ride while still having good tred for most terrains. I think cutting out the two lugs next to the big opening would open up the tire pretty well for mud too.

Oh yea, you could always go with the Highlifter Outlaw tires =D. Pretty soft tire, but extreme tred, sand is probably it's weakest environment (like pulling/pushing something in dune sand) but still does well. On hard ground it's a pretty ruff ride though lol. It tears up grass in yards with out trying. Super great in mud though, basically impossible to spin them unless you have like 50hp+.

[350for350]

I put a pair of the Deestones on the 250SX that I recently picked up. I got to ride it a half hour or so for the first time today. They seem to get pretty good traction. They don't hold air for long periods of time though. The C828s that I had on my 225DR were also good. Good traction and ride. I'd buy those again too. Here's a close up of my SX with them.255337 I was mostly showing my new Front Max.

[patblkwell]

I put a pair of the Deestones on the 250SX that I recently picked up. I got to ride it a half hour or so for the first time today. They seem to get pretty good traction. They don't hold air for long periods of time though. The C828s that I had on my 225DR were also good. Good traction and ride. I'd buy those again too. Here's a close up of my SX with them.255337 I was mostly showing my new Front Max.They look good on there. So you're saying they lose air by just sitting most of the time or?

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[ps2fixer]

Tires that leak isn't exactly a tire faut, it's more likely rust dirt etc in the rim bead sealing surface or the valve stem is leaking.

That front tire I run on my 350x and 250sx, it grips very well, so much I can whip the back end around really well. I put my limits a little more than the average ride I suspect though.

FYI on that 250sx front tire though, if it's not inflated up well, it will rub the forks on turns and slowly wear away at them. Mine are notched out pretty bad now since my front tire leaks and I rarely ride the machine. The outer most lug should just about be cut off to keep from damaging the shocks. Plenty of room on the 350x though.

[350for350]

The rears are on aluminum 200X rims and I put new valve stems in them when I installed the tires. They have gone flat since new. The beads on the rims looked good. One goes low in a few hours, the other goes low in a few days. The forks on this SX are worn badly from someone running a rear 22x11-8 tire on the front. Since these are the only Deestone tires that I've had, I'm not sure if it's the tires or not, but I lean towards that, kind of like Trail Pros.

[ps2fixer]

AL rims can be harder to seal up. There's some sort of bead sealer that can be painted on to help seal it (my dad's used on on car rims for me before). The one that leaks down in a few hours you might be able to check with soapy water to see where the leak is (valve stem/core vs bead leak).