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fabiodriven
04-11-2020, 11:25 PM
Welp....... Hurry and watch this before they take it down

https://m.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?height=400&width=300&href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Frikk.morosin i%2Fvideos%2F10158382022587147%2F

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So I'm texting with a nurse friend of mine and I showed her this video. She says that the woman gave birth prematurely due to the covid virus, so attributing that death to covid would be accurate.

I wanted to hear her opinion on the subject of the actual death toll. Now both she as well as a Boston paramedic I know are substantiating the claims of many people dying. She says that there are more dead than accounted for. I told her I'd seen a lot of things which make it seem as though there are actually less people dying of covid than they're claiming and the numbers are being padded. She disagrees with that still.

Again I'm not sure what to think now. I do feel as though there is something fishy going on here, but then again I usually think that. So there's that...

ps2fixer
04-11-2020, 11:55 PM
Already knew about the fake news, some of the health/med info is interesting though. I heard about the zinc thing back on 3/6 and my local store was already sold out back then.

Not sure how likely the video would get taken down, but here's an archive of it. Wish it was the original instead of a recording off a cellphone playing it, the high pitch crappy sound gave me a head ache.

https://mega.nz/file/JvA1FKab#6yWmOUnPeILFyfhlunDB0250E10PRBo8HzYJU2PZ8 wo

fabiodriven
04-12-2020, 12:03 AM
Already knew about the fake news, some of the health/med info is interesting though. I heard about the zinc thing back on 3/6 and my local store was already sold out back then.

Not sure how likely the video would get taken down, but here's an archive of it. Wish it was the original instead of a recording off a cellphone playing it, the high pitch crappy sound gave me a head ache.

https://mega.nz/file/JvA1FKab#6yWmOUnPeILFyfhlunDB0250E10PRBo8HzYJU2PZ8 wo

Lol. The guy who was worried about my post the other night being spam posts a link which requires a download? There's no way I'm not going to mention this.

I downloaded it and have no idea where it went or how to play it.

ps2fixer
04-12-2020, 12:36 AM
If you've never downloaded a file, then have someone that's more used to that help you. At least it doesn't require an email or an account to download. There's to many factors to guess where the file is, but on a desktop it's normally in the "downloads" folder. No clue where files would go on a cell phone.

Wait, your not happy because the link is a download? That's exactly what I made the link for (it's an archive, aka download then watch, reupload, share, etc). How else do you preserve a video that's likely to be taken down unless it's a download. Those that download it can upload to youtube or anywhere else including facebook. If you want to watch it online, watch the orig link. It's like the pdf service manuals, you download them so you have a copy, if it gets taken down, then you loose access to the data.


I'm on windows 7, not the common OS any more, but every folder shows downloads in the left hand bar for like a quick link type of thing. Windows Vista and newer things might have changed, I haven't followed along with those updates since I don't like those OS's much.

https://i.gyazo.com/aa0ba0ffbb9cb6f78aa1b611e4e4a512.png

fabiodriven
04-12-2020, 12:55 AM
Lol my God. Forget I said anything. No need to derail the thread.

I know how to use a computer, thanks. I'm on an iPhone.

ps2fixer
04-12-2020, 01:56 AM
I try to help and you're still not happy :-/. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. As the saying goes, can't make everyone happy all of the time.

Billy Golightly
04-12-2020, 09:08 AM
Here's my conspiracy theory on what has happened and is actually going on. Be forewarned, its not quite as saucy as other things, but I think it's highly probable...


Chicoms developed covid in their lab at Wuhan. Somewhere along the way we got intelligence about it, and maybe Chicom's intent to use it on hong kong protesters. This may be related to the Harvard Prof that was arrested for working with them the last 9 years (at the Wuhan university/lab) https://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-university-professor-arrested (you aint ever convincing me that this arrest and the virus aren't related...)

So anyways, we get some intelligence that the chicoms were moving the virus, going to sell it to the iranians (maybe part of the reason we splashed the iranian general a several weeks back under intelligence of "immediate threat" that we never learned more about: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/qasem-soleimani-reasons-justifications/index.html ) or otherwise use it, somehow.

I think US assets intercepted this transfer or action of the virus somehow. Hell maybe they were trying to steal a sample from the lab so that they could build a vaccine from it or to further study it, who knows. We heard about the Chicoms blaming us, here is a short article about that: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gordon-g-chang-china-falsely-blames-us-for-coronavirus-pandemic

The intercept or breakdown probably happens right a short distance away from the lab. The market is good cover for a story of where it started from, but it's also a very densely populated place for any intel operative to run/hide in after leaving the university or or intercepting something near the university. Something happens and the trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro "gets out" and literally starts spreading from there. Whether it actually started at the market in this manner, or the market was just a cover, don't know, either seem easily likely to me.

Chicoms have advanced knowledge about the severity of this virus and thus institute never before seen actions of quarantine and cordoning off entire cities of millions and millions of people. Largest ever, without precedent: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/asia/coronavirus-quarantines-history.html an here is another one: https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/where-did-the-5-million-people-from-wuhan-people-go-at-least-4096-residents-from-hebei-province-are-still-travelling-outside-china/

Somehow, virus never travels to other major cities in China like Beijing.

But, spreads elsewhere throughout the world.



All purely speculation and theory on my part, but it ties together nicely in my partially schizo mind...lol


Oops, forgot to add this also: There is lots of speculation on why deaths are getting reported as covid when they may not necessarily have covid as the actual cause of death. Here is another theory, although this is super long shot. I think the death #s may be getting inflated because there is a behind the scenes push for either reparations from the Chicoms for their "chinese virus" or for them to release their ownership of part of our national debt in exchange for not having to admit to any culpability, etc. There's a rhyme or reason to it, in some manner.

ironchop
04-12-2020, 10:31 AM
So I'm texting with a nurse friend of mine and I showed her this video. She says that the woman gave birth prematurely due to the covid virus, so attributing that death to covid would be accurate.

I wanted to hear her opinion on the subject of the actual death toll. Now both she as well as a Boston paramedic I know are substantiating the claims of many people dying. She says that there are more dead than accounted for. I told her I'd seen a lot of things which make it seem as though there are actually less people dying of covid than they're claiming and the numbers are being padded. She disagrees with that still.

Again I'm not sure what to think now. I do feel as though there is something fishy going on here, but then again I usually think that. So there's that...
That's just good policy to ask other people who would know better than us.

I have four RNs in my family, my brother works for the CDC in DC. He is currently assisting/managing the medical supplies supply chain side of the issue. His GF is a pharmacist for the FDA, in the DC offices. I'm blessed to have several people to get opinions from regarding this virus.

I'm hearing from all these folks who are repeating the current narrative, with my brother trying to tell me that all of America is exploding at the seams in every hospital. I had to tell him to check out the Kentucky stats because the official CDC numbers for Kentucky didn't jive with the national "narrative". He agreed that we were doing much better than most other places AFTER he actually looked up the stats. Before that, he was content to tell me that all of America was having a massive outbreak and big death toll. It's like listening to the news when he talks. We got into a bit of a disagreement about this. The problem with people, is that they think that their reality is the same as everyone else's reality, especially when the "news" gets involved.

My aunt (RN) corroborated that cause of death usually is attributed like that. Ok.... Fine...... I'll give you that. What you DON'T do unless you want to sensationalize everything, is to report ever single baby, no matter how premature or barely born that dies in a country of a specific affliction attributed to their mother, the national media stage UNLESS you want to sensationalize something for an agenda. Point being, the baby was widely reported solely to drive up fears and anxiety and to bolster the narrative

Now, having said that, the news had REPEATEDLY LIED and has used "unvetted" information and "experts". This isn't a theory. It's proven. For CBS NEWS, it's been proven four times just this year. Three of those lies were Covid-19 specific. The fourth was a fake Turkish invasion on Syria that never even happened, let alone they used footage from a Kentucky gun show to "prove" that it was happening.

You have videos deceivingly attributed to locations in the US, twice. Twice isn't a mistake. Twice is a trend. You have crazy nurses going viral online crying about not having masks and it turns out that she hasn't worked at hospital since A YEAR BEFORE the outbreak and made up the entire thing. LIES.

You have an entire Democrat party in Congress, not trying to help Covid-19 victims, both viral and economical, but are helping abortion clinics, slush funds, illegal immigrants, the Arts, pet projects, racial diversity legislation, income redistribution, etc...... Every single piece of left wing crap coming down the pike and shoved into the relief bill and 98% of it had NOTHING to do with Covid-19. It doesn't take an MD to figure out that Congressional Dems don't seem to find any of this a serious matter at all. Apparently Fetacide ranks as far more important to a Democrat than Covid-19. Actions speak louder than words. Either they are completely nuts or this is overblown and they are accidently telling on themselves.

Instead of Congress trying to find ways to flatten the curve or to help our crumbling economy, (((Schiff))) and Pelosi are now engaged in a brand new witch hunt hearing to pick apart "Trump's Covid response"...... People are supposed to be"dying in the street" but Schiff and Pelosi want to make this all about Donald Trump...... That's how important the virus victims are to a Democrat and their voters/supporters. Their concern and empathy are all fake. Bringing down Orange Godzilla is their only plan. The virus and it's victims are merely a means to an end

You have numbers being created from faulty tests. You have statistics being calculated with only a third of the required information needed to calculate accurate statistics

Fauci has been nothing but irresponsible and confusing this entire process. He constantly contradicts himself. He has done NOTHING to educate the public or appease fears and he is a huge Hillary fanboy. Even my brother in DC will tell you that politics has permeated everything there and that your political affiliation is considered FIRST before your qualifications are considered. He reiterated this last week. Fauci was "educated" during the same era when you could get AIDS from a toilet seat. I once had a 70yr old cardiologist who probably hadn't read a medical journal in twenty years but he was still considered "an expert" despite being horribly unfamiliar with contemporary treatments. This led to him almost accidently killing me before I fired him.

You have the governor of New York..... Cuomo was caught lying about not receiving supplies from Trump. Then he offered some BS excuse and his fangirls bought that lie without a single question

You have DEMOCRAT governors BANNING the treatment that's been found to be most effective citing such ridiculous reasoning as "one time, someone took this drug and died"..... If we banned treatment drugs by executive order every time one single person dies, most pharmaceuticals would be currently banned in America. As it turned out, that story was grossly misrepresented as well, since the victim didn't administer his own dosage, his schizophrenic wife did it for him and it wasn't even plaquenil, it was fish tank cleaner with similar ingredients. THAT is not TRUTH no matter how you spin it. Sorry, but that was never about saving lives at all but completely political in motive. If people can't see that, then they are oblivious and can't be helped. If Trump said that oxygen would save Covid patients, Democrats would ban oxygen and order everyone to put plastic bags over their heads "for the safety of everyone"

You had Democrats crying "racism!" "Xenophobia!" When Trump wanted travel bans to slow the infection rate. They did everything they could to stymie any Euro or China travel bans so that the virus would keep spreading through international travel. That's not being proactive at all. That is being INTENTIONALLY OBSTRUCTIVE. They are either stupid as fck, or they wanted more casualties to occur, certainly for political reasons.

You have Bill Gates.... Last several years Bill Gates wanted gobal population control and sterilization. This year, Bill Gates wants to "save as many people all over the world from diseases using new vaccines" as he can..... You believe this sudden change of priority? I don't. Gates is a liar with an agenda.

What can we say about the people in other countries filming empty hospitals in Germany and the UK? Are we to believe the narrative that these Europeans are helping to fake the news to help Trump win an American election? That's nonsense. Plus the MSM already told us that everyone outside of America hates Trump so that insinuation goes against their own previous narratives.

I'm not sorry that I don't believe anything they tell me. Politicians and the mainstream news media have had a HUGE credibility problem for quite some time and if anyone thinks that they decided to start telling the truth all of the sudden, they would be mistaken.

When I see bodies in the street in Kentucky, then I will believe SOME of these reports. Not until.

In other news, they need to stop saying "we're all in this together!"....... No you're not. Some of us don't make salary. Some of us aren't getting paid by our company to stay home. Some of us don't get to work from home. Some of us live from paycheck to paycheck. Some of us are losing their health insurance thanks to losing their jobs. Some of us will lose their place to live. Some of us could only afford a week's worth of food to put back but couldn't even get that much thanks to the people with deeper pockets who "are all suffering the same as you" and decided to freak out and eat toilet paper.

People don't have a fking clue what their neighbor is going through right now, so they should stop being an arrogant and dismissive dick by uttering that nonsense. Not everyone has the same experience and when you say things like that, your complete ignorance is on full display.

The news has lied to us all so much, that I can't believe a single thing they say. I would rather take my chances and if I get sick and die, so be it. I don't fear death. You know why? Because the average American's fear of death is precisely how the medical establishment and medical insurance companies have been able to fleece us dry for so many years and has also been used as a profoundly effective means of population control, economic control, and/or political control. I'm certain doctors and nurses truly want to save lives and help each individual patient, but most people who invest in, run hospitals, nursing homes, and clinics could not care less about anything outside of profit margins and . Those dickheads are the reason medical care is so expensive. Profiteering.

No thanks. I've had a great life and I'm not scared knowing it might all end tomorrow. That's why they have no control over what I think.

Smart people think for themselves using what they OBSERVE as a measure. Dumb people believe what they are TOLD without even vetting the person who is telling them things, let alone the information they were given, all of this despite what they OBSERVE...... Just for fun, ask a Snopes user what qualifications Snopes has that makes them a credible fact-checker.... They won't be able to answer you. All they know is that someone told them that Snopes was credible and that was enough for them.

Cognitive dissonance.

Why would anyone listen to anyone who has repeatedly and historically displayed a lack of credibility?

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DAM shop
04-12-2020, 11:50 AM
Went into my work today, this place should have been packed today with over 3,000 folks.
262270

Happy Easter!

Scootertrash
04-12-2020, 12:18 PM
Very old interview with Milton Friedman on Phil Donahue. How many of you remember Phil?? :lol:

Speaks to exactly what 'chop said above:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

Scootertrash
04-12-2020, 12:33 PM
Here's the full interview if anybody is interested. If you watch It you'll find that "The longer you can look back, the farther you can look forward."-Winston Churchill. That is the actual quote, not" The farther back you look, the farther forward you can see".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpq3Cv5Wen8

Scootertrash
04-12-2020, 12:35 PM
OK, one more. Too bad he's gone, smart man.:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQLBitV69Cc

El Camexican
04-12-2020, 01:51 PM
Great clips!!! Thanks!!!

Jesus
04-12-2020, 11:39 PM
Maybe Jesus will chime in on this. How about Jesus, we could use your words of wisdom about now.

Sorry for the lateness of my reply. I got hung up on Friday, did a day of social distancing and today was insanely busy. Seems the virus has the prayer groups working O.T.

Have faith that things will improve, but not without some suffering. That’s the price of filching the apple.

Say your prayers, do good deeds, keep your hands clean and don’t pick your noses!

fabiodriven
04-13-2020, 12:37 AM
I love that Jesus is on 3WW, haha.

Anyhow, Dave Little sent me this one.


https://youtu.be/NjjybyJ59Lw

fabiodriven
04-13-2020, 02:25 AM
Dave Little again gets credit for this one.

Seriously, wtf is going on here? Celebration in the streets while people are dying in droves? This is fuct either way. People dealing with heavy doses of death DO NOT go and celebrate. I don't think I have to explain how distraught these people would be, or should be, if they're carting out the dead like we're being told. Something is very wrong with all of this. Whether there are people truly dying or not, wtf is this ridiculous unprofessional behavior from both the hospital and the NYCFD?

Lots of interesting comments on this one if you read them. The whole video is pretty interesting but you can skip to 27 minutes if you want to get right to dancing nurses and fire fighters wasting money.

https://youtu.be/H1fm1VQgX8M

As I write this I'm in a rest area in Connecticut on my way to Massachusetts for a quick visit. After driving route 95 through NYC and over the GW, I'm lucky to still have all my axles attached to my truck and trailer. Their roads are a phucking JOKE! Enough to do serious damage to vehicles. I took a phuckin pounding, yet this is one of the wealthiest and most elite states in the union? Spit on the state of NY, Schumer, AOC, and anyone else who has wasted all of our time and money on COMPLETELY USELESS EFFORTS to impeach the president and cram their bullshite agendas down everyone's throats. They truly are do nothings!

It's a phuckin bizarro world we're living in where these useless people are put up on some sort of platform and provided with a very comfortable existence, by us, and they cannot even make a goddam roadway. Seriously, phuck these useless people and shame on the citizens of this stupid, expensive, overtaxed, overly regulated SHITE HOLE of a state. These phucking roads should be fixed out of Schumer's crooked pockets and his greedy useless cohorts.

I seriously do not understand wtf is going on here right now. I do not understand how these people can drive on this joke day in and day out and watch their politicians do absolutely nothing else of any worth, and somehow end up millionaires in the process. Wake the fark up America!!!

ironchop
04-13-2020, 09:22 AM
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR GOVERNOR, MICHIGAN?

seriously, she's gone full Stalin banning the purchase of food seeds.

Who voted for this?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-bans-buying-us-flags-lockdown/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostBottomSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons


In other news, my own Soviet Socialist Governor of Kentucky isn't too far behind in The Race for Authoritarian Rule.....

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/kentucky-church-targeted-police-boobytrapped-protesters-defiantly-held-easter-services/

Our religious freedom loving founding fathers would be APPALLED that we put up with this

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El Camexican
04-13-2020, 10:28 AM
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR GOVERNOR, MICHIGAN?

seriously, she's gone full Stalin banning the purchase of food seeds.

Who voted for this?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-bans-buying-us-flags-lockdown/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostBottomSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons


In other news, my own Soviet Socialist Governor of Kentucky isn't too far behind in The Race for Authoritarian Rule.....

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/kentucky-church-targeted-police-boobytrapped-protesters-defiantly-held-easter-services/

Our religious freedom loving founding fathers would be APPALLED that we put up with this

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Insanity. I hope this gets dragged to the Supreme Court and that someone is crucified for it (Sorry Jesus)

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

ironchop
04-13-2020, 12:22 PM
Thank you!

Take notes, Americans. A Canadian-Mexican just quoted the Bill of Rights. Maybe we should start respecting it too.



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ps2fixer
04-13-2020, 02:48 PM
Yea out governor is terrible. She didn't directly ban the sale of seeds, but any big store with a "gardening" section is banned from selling out of that section. Technically they could put seeds in the crafts section and they could be sold just fine. Paint, Flooring/Carpet, Gardening, and Furniture are what's banned.

He starts talking about and quoting the actual law at around 4:30. Btw, this guy is a Michigan lawyer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZDkGFp2soU

knappyfeet
04-13-2020, 03:05 PM
C19 curve is starting to flatten.

Seeds will be for sale shortly Michigan residents

ps2fixer
04-13-2020, 03:07 PM
I can get seeds at TSC, they aren't banned, TSC doesn't have a gardening section.

fabiodriven
04-13-2020, 10:12 PM
Dave Little again gets credit for this one.

Seriously, wtf is going on here? Celebration in the streets while people are dying in droves? This is fuct either way. People dealing with heavy doses of death DO NOT go and celebrate. I don't think I have to explain how distraught these people would be, or should be, if they're carting out the dead like we're being told. Something is very wrong with all of this. Whether there are people truly dying or not, wtf is this ridiculous unprofessional behavior from both the hospital and the NYCFD?

Lots of interesting comments on this one if you read them. The whole video is pretty interesting but you can skip to 27 minutes if you want to get right to dancing nurses and fire fighters wasting money.

https://youtu.be/H1fm1VQgX8M

As I write this I'm in a rest area in Connecticut on my way to Massachusetts for a quick visit. After driving route 95 through NYC and over the GW, I'm lucky to still have all my axles attached to my truck and trailer. Their roads are a phucking JOKE! Enough to do serious damage to vehicles. I took a phuckin pounding, yet this is one of the wealthiest and most elite states in the union? Spit on the state of NY, Schumer, AOC, and anyone else who has wasted all of our time and money on COMPLETELY USELESS EFFORTS to impeach the president and cram their bullshite agendas down everyone's throats. They truly are do nothings!

It's a phuckin bizarro world we're living in where these useless people are put up on some sort of platform and provided with a very comfortable existence, by us, and they cannot even make a goddam roadway. Seriously, phuck these useless people and shame on the citizens of this stupid, expensive, overtaxed, overly regulated SHITE HOLE of a state. These phucking roads should be fixed out of Schumer's crooked pockets and his greedy useless cohorts.

I seriously do not understand wtf is going on here right now. I do not understand how these people can drive on this joke day in and day out and watch their politicians do absolutely nothing else of any worth, and somehow end up millionaires in the process. Wake the fark up America!!!

Just as a recap, the trailer broke a spring shackle today. 4 year old trailer, no rust. Fark you up the arse sideways NY.

ironchop
04-14-2020, 10:18 AM
I can get seeds at TSC, they aren't banned, TSC doesn't have a gardening section.Ok, I'll concede that there was sensationalism in that headline, now that I know the rest of the story...... However, that's the most ridiculously convoluted reasoning I have ever heard for something being banned for sale (regarding the "no specific garden section" at TSC)

Kinda like banning the treatment drug because "ONE TIME, someone took something similar but not the same, and they died"

No, these decisions are largely arbitrary and are being enacted by the low-hanging fruit crowd

So TSC can sell seeds but not Home Depot? Yeah that sounds well thought out and completely fair, Constitutional, and not arbitrary at all. (Dripping with sarcasm right now)

This is why you don't elect people (who have paid gardeners and servants and cooks) to decide for you what is "essential" to you. This woman has probably not seen the inside of a low-end retail store for twenty years but, from her crystal palace, she decides (completely from her own ignorance and limited exposure to real life) what stores are allowed to sell what products based on how they are categorized in the store layout? Are you serious? (I'll bet you're not buying into it either) It's like the same people who wrote gun laws for Democrats wrote the shutdown orders for Democrats.

I can't throw rocks because we elected the son of the guy who ruined the teachers/police pension fund. Nevermind that Steve Beshear got everyone to blame the Republican Bevin (who came along after Beshear left office) for the pension issue, and magically, both Democrats and Republicans both completely forgot Steve Beshear's role in the fiasco and elected his son Andy Beshear out of spite to Matt Bevin. Kinda like expecting anything different from a Clinton or a Bush

Beshear is ignoring the crowded mosques in town and sending police after the Christian churches. Catholic churches here gave up without a whimper. Perhaps Christians should list their churches as mosques? Or maybe they should have church at TSC?

It reminds me of the ridiculous vaccination fight:

"Every child should be vaccinated. I don't want my children going to school with unvaccinated children!"

"If your child is already vaccinated, they are supposedly safe, so what do you care?"

"Because my child can get sick from unvaccinated children!!! I heard it on the news!!!"

"If your vaccinated child can get sick from an unvaccinated child, then your child's vaccination was useless and ineffective. You said vaccines are effective, so what the fvck?"

"Vaccines are 100% effective!! They save lives"

"Have you heard of 'viral shedding'? See that's why your vaccinated child can actually make an unvaccinated child sick. Turns out your vaccinated child is actually a much bigger danger to unvaccinated kids than the other way around. So now what?"

"I don't care. I'm listening to the medical professionals who are trained as news anchors and the representatives from vaccine manufacturers. They wouldn't twist it or outright lie to me for profit! Anti-vaxxers are ignorant fools!! Unvaccinated kids are a danger to others no matter how stupid I sound right now or how much I apparently don't understand vaccinations!!"

It's very easy to get people to throw out everything they ever learned in the presence of conflicting information "from authorities" on the matter...... Completely arbitrary authorities. Put an expert badge on someone and most people will blindly trust this person regardless of common sense

It's ego..... There was a study done that determined that it takes ten times more energy to get someone to realize the information they used to decide a position was all a lie to begin with and change their position, than it took to get them to believe that lie in the first place. That's why they say that you can't fix ignorance.... Most ignorance is totally willful.

We grow food. Even giving Whitmer the benefit of the doubt, this was a HUGE oversight on her part. With them telling us that we won't be safe until summer, where are people who grow and eat their own food going to get seeds from? So your governor doesn't understand that a food gardener goes to the store once or twice every few months but people go to the grocery sometimes every day here, especially now with the empty shelves and panic buying. So food gardeners will now HAVE to rely on an already shaky supply chain at the grocery because it's better to linger in a grocery store in large numbers than it is to linger at Home Depot in large numbers..... Yup, sound logic there. Makes perfect sense.

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ironchop
04-14-2020, 10:51 AM
I especially liked how Komrade Beshear ordered every business closed for Easter, no Easter dinner, no parties allowed, no gathering at church, even if you stay in your car in the parking lot and listen to the sermon on huge speakers

But guess who WAS out and about operating a business on Easter Sunday?

The USPS, that's who

"But the USPS doesn't deliver on Sunday, chop!"

They don't deliver USPS Mail, silly. They were out delivering AMAZON packages to my neighbor. He needed a new weedeater to help him survive Coronavirus.... It's hiding in the tall grass apparently. Anything Jeff Bezos peddles is "essential" (huge political DONOR)

"Essential" my azz...... This whole thing favors certain businesses and punishes others. It's completely arbitrary and off the cuff. It makes no rhyme or reason whatsoever and NO, every state is NOT shutdown.

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ps2fixer
04-14-2020, 11:04 AM
Yea, I defo don't agree with her bans, I personally feel it's unconstitutional. I heard on the radio (horrible source for info) that "motor boats" are banned now.

https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/local/michigan/motorized-boating-banned-stay-at-home-order/69-ff0b39dd-8133-4f71-a487-d3a2969b4836

I really don't understand these bans. Her first stay at home announcement said to stay home, but then said to go outside and get fresh air, and even suggested going to the park. What's difference about getting on a boat, vs going to the park and eating a lunch.

I was going to plant a garden next year after I had a better garden spot setup (it's half done), but since things *could* go bad I figured I'd get a garden started this year. I figured there's a huge demand for seeds this year since I'm sure there's other people that were thinking along the same lines as what I was thinking, so I ordered online. I received the seeds like 2 days before the garden section ban. I talked with the seller a bit due to some shipping delay issues and she's also from Michigan and stated she's been so overwhelmed she has to put her ebay store into vacation mode to stop sales while she catches up. She was selling garden food seeds extremely fast, she said normally this time of year she had most sales in flower seeds. Since a lot of people are growing this year, I wonder if veggies and such will be cheaper at the end of the growing season.

I still need to figure out where I want to plant fruiting trees like mulberry, apple, pear, cherry, etc. I'll probably have to fence off an area to keep the deer from eating the small trees. I also have a pretty large patch of wild black berry and raspberries.



Small update for my area since I went shopping yesterday.

A month or so ago I went shopped before the hours were restricted at the big box stores. I went in about midnight (I prefer late night shopping, less people, and the general people in the city aren't the kindest). I think there was somewhere around 15-20 people in the store and I only noticed 2 people with face masks, I didn't have one at the time so I was part of that crowd. Nothing really seemed different except the mass panic buying of some thing and limits plated on high demand items. Fast forward to yesterday's shopping trip, traffic is down a lot. I looked up the best time to shop and it appears like first thing in the morning is the best time so I got there around 7:30am. Around 25 people in the store, around 60-70% had facemasks and I got a N95 from my dad so I was part of that group this time. Everyone looking 50+ had a face mask that I noticed, only young people didn't. Stock levels were much better, there was even toilet paper. I stocked up for another 1-2 months worth of food plus what I had left from the last trip and past stock. Should have around 3 months on hand now.

Also one of the local churches had a service for Easter, I guess the cops showed up for that to monitor the situation but it wasn't closed down. I guess people spread out enough to make them happy.

I've heard police aren't pulling people over for "small" crimes here currently. Don't know how true it is, but theft was mentioned as one of the things they'd be ignoring. Sure glad I have guns and plenty of ammo.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/04/michigan-police-relax-enforcement-of-speeding-other-minor-violations-during-coronavirus-pandemic.html


Lansing Police Chief Daryl Green in a March 12 “coronavirus exposure mitigation” memo said his officers, “until further notice,” won’t respond in person to reports of larceny; property destruction; retail fraud, if a suspect isn’t known or the value of the theft is under $1,000; attempted break-ins or break-ins at unoccupied buildings, including garages or vacant homes; ID theft when the victim isn’t financially harmed and reimbursed by their bank; harassing phone calls or emails; credit card theft if the charges arise outside Lansing and calls of lost property.

Dirtcrasher
04-14-2020, 02:03 PM
FAKE FAKE FAKE!! Every death is falsely reported as Covid 19.

It is a FLU, and kills people with pre existing conditions.

You know how in Italy the have the largest death rate?? The median age in Italy is 81y.o. and almost 90% of Italians smoke.

Do your own research! It's another Deep State Cabal bullshit false flag to get us to all take a vaccine and a chip (mark of the beast), as well as mail in voting so the can steal the election much easier.

They know they can't beat TRUMP and that he wants the Cabal defeated, they will do ANYTHING to stop it and Trump has to play the game or he's a "bad POTUS".

I am 100% right, mark my mother focking words....

Wanna discuss fake school shootings? I'm ready! That's the way to take your guns, your freedom and your liberty.

ps2fixer
04-14-2020, 02:33 PM
Two question comes to mine, why release a fake virus in China when the target is US related, and second, how does something fake get confirmed and not questioned.... world wide? It's kind of like the claim of the fake moon landings, why wouldn't Russia expose the US, we weren't exactly friends back then and there's ways to prove we were there, one being there's a mirror setup on the moon so if a laser is aimed in the right spot, it can reflect the light and the reflection can be detected.

In the precious metals world, fake coins, bars, etc can be an issue. Sell just one, it might go undetected. However, sell 1000s on say Ebay, and you get caught fast. If Trump knows it's a fake virus, why would he play the game instead of exposing the truth with proof to back it up? Not doubting the left is abusing this situation any way they can, I just don't completely agree on the source of the virus, or the lack of a virus. I'll be honest though, I don't know anyone directly that's effected (sick/dead). I do know one guy over seas that has a family member with a confirmed case.

I'm a fairly skeptical person, I tend to check with several sources to validate things and I don't trust a random person that makes videos. Patterns can be found in anything if you look hard enough. Like just a random example that popped in my head just now, 3wheelerworld.... 3ww ..... ww3, is the admin going to start a world war? Don't think so.

One thing you have to keep in mind with "researching", when you google for something, google's job is to match what you search with a pattern on websites along with your past history of searches and clicks. If you look for "fake covid 19", you're going to find a ton of sites that claim it's fake, if you search for say "covid 19 electron microscope", you get photos of the virus... which are of the corona (crown) virus type. If you look up "sars electron microscope", you'll see similar images. You can also see photos of influenza. Clearly to the untrained eye, they look similar or the same.

coolpool
04-17-2020, 12:57 PM
Our Provincial government has now placed a fire ban/Off Highway Vehicle ban for the whole North and West part of the province to make sure front line resources aren't tied up fighting fires and to ensure evacuations aren't needed. Now I do support a thought process such as this except............we still have over a foot of snow on the ground! I called the provincial officer today and they will be lifting this rule today they suspect........no sh&t Sherlock, why not talk to your local enforcement officers instead of looking out the window in Edmonton 150 miles sw of us!

ps2fixer
04-17-2020, 01:23 PM
Maybe I'm crazy, but aren't fire fighters the ones that fight fires? Is there more fires than normal due to people being home?

Also, the off road vehicle ban in the logic of stopping fires, how many fires are caused by off road vehicles? I suspect there's not many fires caused by vehicles, big time if they have spark arrestors (required in Michigan for off road use). Seems like dumb policies are being made world wide eh?

I haven't heard of any issues in the US with more fires than normal. Online says there's less crime right now, but then again there's reports police aren't going after "small" crimes in some areas. Since there's less car wrecks etc, some hospitals are laying off workers, atleast as of what I've heard on youtube.

Anyway, pretty sure you have more snow there right now than my area in Michigan has had all year. It was a weird winter.

Scootertrash
04-18-2020, 08:15 AM
Two question comes to mine, why release a fake virus in China when the target is US related, and second, how does something fake get confirmed and not questioned.... world wide?

I'm not really sure where the "fake virus" idea came from, but I'll address the "release a virus on your own people" line of thinking:

It's called "Plausible Deniability":


Plausible deniability is the ability of people (typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command) to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others in an organizational hierarchy because of a lack of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions.

Communists place no value on human life, even their citizens, not to mention non communist citizens. A search of the amount of people killed by communist dictators is quite tellling.

China was pissed at the U.S. for the tariffs, which is a whole other topic, but I will say that when the U.S. is paying double digit tariffs and China is paying single digit tariffs on each others goods, That ain't "fair trade". A trade war is like a staring contest, first one to break loses, and China was on the brink of breaking soon.

Having the virus "accidentally" escape from the lab in Wuhan (It's been revealed that there were no bats being sold in the Wuhan wet market. Allegedly) allows them to use your question as an alibi: "Why would we release a deadly virus on our own people? That's preposterous."

They locked down the Wuhan area as soon as their lies were discovered, but still allowed international travel? How many people had sashayed thru the Wuhan area potentially picking up the virus and carrying it across China and possibly the globe?

While destroying the U.S. economy may have been the main goal, trashing the economy of most or all of the countries in the world benefits the Chinese even more, particularly when China wants to control the world markets of just about everything. They've been sending out masks that have been found to be ineffective in recent weeks, how convenient is that?

Scootertrash
04-18-2020, 08:24 AM
Most of you may have heard by now that Trump cut funding to W.H.O.

About time, they helped China cover for this B.S.


With that, I'll just leave this here:naughty::

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Jd110
04-18-2020, 08:52 AM
Going about things a little differently, now. Not the best situation, but I’ve not been sick from the virus. Just sick in general. Lucky enough to have a project I’m head over heels for. Take care, guys.

coolpool
04-18-2020, 12:05 PM
Maybe I'm crazy, but aren't fire fighters the ones that fight fires? Is there more fires than normal due to people being home?

Also, the off road vehicle ban in the logic of stopping fires, how many fires are caused by off road vehicles? I suspect there's not many fires caused by vehicles, big time if they have spark arrestors (required in Michigan for off road use). Seems like dumb policies are being made world wide eh?

I haven't heard of any issues in the US with more fires than normal. Online says there's less crime right now, but then again there's reports police aren't going after "small" crimes in some areas. Since there's less car wrecks etc, some hospitals are laying off workers, atleast as of what I've heard on youtube.

Anyway, pretty sure you have more snow there right now than my area in Michigan has had all year. It was a weird winter.

As for the question of OHV's starting fires, it's actually quite common here as the terrain that is around us is called "muskeg" or "moose meadow" or "loon sh&t". It's basically a floating bog of peat moss that when dried out on top of exhaust systems and such, it smolders and drops off on the trails and starts fires quite easily. Peat is what they used to burn in Ireland for heat homes back in the day. So normally I would support the ban but not when we're under water still.

ps2fixer
04-18-2020, 12:37 PM
I see. I guess another factor is Michigan gets a lot of rain because of the great lakes too so generally speaking things don't dry out that much.

At the start of the state shut down there was higher traffic than normal for atv's on my road (state land at the end of it), but it seems like that traffic has really died down.

DAM shop
04-20-2020, 03:52 PM
Filling up my pickup truck with .99 cent fuel here in Iowa.

Shep1970
04-21-2020, 05:39 PM
Got word from the state today, school is “done” for the year. The only problem I have with that is my son is a senior and he gets no formal graduation which excuse my wording but that sucks for him. Actually I think, well I know my wife is more upset about it than he is.
The good news is the town co-op DPW job he had got suspended when school stopped (covid) a few wks ago. He’s been contacted by the (boss) recently and there skipping the state funded program and hiring him back full time (they don’t want to lose him) and are still offering college programs to him, yay.

Still healthy/ still don’t personally know anyone that’s sick. Our cat is doing good too/ 262401
She’s keeping my hip warm at the moment-
Also I think I’ve now watched every movie that interests me on Netflix and vudu- now I find myself watching misc utube things-
Our gas prices are just under $2 as of now/ .99 cents would be nice dam shop
Shep

DAM shop
04-21-2020, 07:09 PM
Got word from the state today, school is “done” for the year. The only problem I have with that is my son is a senior and he gets no formal graduation which excuse my wording but that sucks for him. Actually I think, well I know my wife is more upset about it than he is.
The good news is the town co-op DPW job he had got suspended when school stopped (covid) a few wks ago. He’s been contacted by the (boss) recently and there skipping the state funded program and hiring him back full time (they don’t want to lose him) and are still offering college programs to him, yay.

Still healthy/ still don’t personally know anyone that’s sick. Our cat is doing good too/ 262401
She’s keeping my hip warm at the moment-
Also I think I’ve now watched every movie that interests me on Netflix and vudu- now I find myself watching misc utube things-
Our gas prices are just under $2 as of now/ .99 cents would be nice dam shop
Shep

Yeah Shep schools done here in Iowa. This Dam thing has drug on long enough, finding myself starting to slide into a not so good relaxed mode. The only good thing is it’s giving my possible herniated disc time to heal.

DAM shop
04-22-2020, 06:25 PM
I’ll just leave this here:cool:
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fabiodriven
04-22-2020, 06:48 PM
Got word from the state today, school is “done” for the year. The only problem I have with that is my son is a senior and he gets no formal graduation which excuse my wording but that sucks for him. Actually I think, well I know my wife is more upset about it than he is.
The good news is the town co-op DPW job he had got suspended when school stopped (covid) a few wks ago. He’s been contacted by the (boss) recently and there skipping the state funded program and hiring him back full time (they don’t want to lose him) and are still offering college programs to him, yay.

Still healthy/ still don’t personally know anyone that’s sick. Our cat is doing good too/ 262401
She’s keeping my hip warm at the moment-
Also I think I’ve now watched every movie that interests me on Netflix and vudu- now I find myself watching misc utube things-
Our gas prices are just under $2 as of now/ .99 cents would be nice dam shop
Shep

That's pretty cool they snagged up your boy like that Shep!

El Camexican
04-22-2020, 11:40 PM
I just read an article that says two cats tested positive for coronavirus in New York.

I think we all suspected that you can catch a lot of things from stray pussy, but coronavirus wasn’t one that I was aware of before.

So now I’m left to wonder who the heck tests cats for coronavirus?

anon3
04-23-2020, 12:54 AM
Yea - I’m stuck at home in NZ, that’s different! Sucks balls.

jarr3d08
04-23-2020, 02:03 AM
I'm working from home. During weekends, I do some gardening in the back of our house.

ATC King
04-23-2020, 12:07 PM
I've discovered my secret caches of rubbing alcohol, not realizing I was hoarding the stuff well before all of this mess.

It has so many uses, that I keep multiple bottles on hand, always. Disinfectant, solvent/degreaser, accelerant, etc..

Found about four large bottles of the 91% stuff in the camper, new and still sealed. Found another smaller bottle under a sink, new. Still a couple other bottles hiding behind some stuff on the shop work bench. Of course I had a couple in the house already. I keep a couple of the travel size spritz bottles full for general disinfecting and have been doing that for years.

I don't like using products like Lysol, because they are supposed to be rinsed off with water or it leaves a film that allows bacteria to become resistant to it. Alcohol evaporates and kills things desiccation or denaturation. It's probably the oldest known chemical disinfectant, and thousands of years older than the invention of bleach.


I typically carry a flask of it when camping, for disinfecting and helping to start a fire. We used to make toilet paper camp stoves, which wasn't anything more than a coffee can with a roll of toilet paper completely drenched in alcohol. Was doing that well before being old enough for a drivers license. Guess that'd be a luxury right now.

I did buy a bottle of Everclear after this all started, just because I felt like there was an excuse and I haven't bought any in probably 15 years. Soon I realized why I haven't bought any in so long, because it's difficult to make mixed drinks with it that don't taste like garbage, except for punch. It's been in the pantry for a month now and probably will be even longer, with just the neck out of it.

atctim
04-23-2020, 02:27 PM
Filling up my pickup truck with .99 cent fuel here in Iowa.

Dang - there's 88 cents of tax on a gallon of gas here in PA. We are still over $2 gallon here. I sure do love paying taxes!

Arky-X
04-23-2020, 03:40 PM
I’ll just leave this here:cool:
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Missing an Outerwear pre-filter isn't he?



Gas was down to $1.20 something here. Of course none of my 6 vehicles need any petro right now since WE AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE!
I need to take a scenic drive just so I can buy some cheap gas

DAM shop
04-23-2020, 06:04 PM
Dang - there's 88 cents of tax on a gallon of gas here in PA. We are still over $2 gallon here. I sure do love paying taxes!

The .99 was a sale at one shell station guy sold like 10,000 gallons and has a line of cars. Even at that anywhere else it’s under a 1.20 the guy at shell os actually pretty’s smart moving serious volume of fuel that he wouldn’t even come close to moving if he was competitive with pricing

Arky-X
04-24-2020, 10:14 PM
Will we ever see this?

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Scootertrash
04-25-2020, 07:14 AM
Yo! 'dog! :welcome:

coolpool
04-29-2020, 10:16 AM
Will we ever see this?

262454

Ha, that's what it's like trying to get rid of our crude oil now! Me and Smjp22 work in the heavy oil industry and thank our lucky stars for every paycheck that still comes in. In fact he's about to start up a new 10,000 bbl plant which to me, doesn't make sense? Our company (Husky) thinks this is just a blip and is still moving forward. Sure hope they're right!

DAM shop
05-05-2020, 02:51 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/us/5-year-old-driver-utah-trnd/index.html
This kid was doing something different :lol::lol:

DAM shop
05-05-2020, 03:21 PM
I do believe you’re right Mr. Bunghole. I’m seriously considering capitalizing on this dam thing.

fabiodriven
05-05-2020, 03:50 PM
I believe life is what you make of it and the only person who's going to have a crappy life are those who allow that to happen to their own life via their own decisions.

fabiodriven
05-05-2020, 04:06 PM
Go where "they" can't find you.

I'm not in the same position as others and of course there are a lot of people in financial situations right now that have very little income if any at all. There are a lot of people poised to lose a lot of things, and that's truly unfortunate. I wish that weren't the case. I hope things straighten right out and it's feasible they could, but they might not. Things could get worse and very well may, but I hope people see this country is all in this together and those who are having a difficult time are not alone. I hope the American people keep their spirits as high as possible so we can all work through this together.

During these manufactured crises the powers that be are taking our rights away, every time. This situation is probably no different. I hope people realize this is the case and if at some point we need to fight the power then that's what we need to do I suppose.

Arky-X
05-05-2020, 05:45 PM
If the government can suspend your rights anytime it deems something is a crisis, you don't have rights........you have permissions.

fabiodriven
05-05-2020, 09:18 PM
Highly recommended, I wouldn't miss this one.


https://youtu.be/k-moc9EIgbg

El Camexican
05-05-2020, 09:41 PM
If you’re Canadian the new thing to do during the coronavirus is give up your formally legal weapons for pennies on the dollar without proper parliamentary process. If you’re wondering why that is the answer is, “because they can”.

The new normal is “Frak you, this is how we say its gonna be and don’t you dare argue or we’ll track down your cell phone and toss your nonconformist azz in jail”

Unlike the rights of Americans lost after 911, everyone on the planet is losing their rights now. This is every globalists wet dream come true.

El Camexican
05-05-2020, 11:32 PM
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2020 US quarter has bats on it. Can’t make dat shiit up.

fabiodriven
05-06-2020, 12:07 AM
Thank god for people like Dr. Judy Mikovits ............excellent documentary where is part 2 ?..........taking a liberal approach to co-vid deaths ?........GTFO of here Dr Birch........these people are insane........please drain the swamp........everything is corrupted

That's the first thing I thought and you're not the first to ask me where part 2 is. I'm looking forward to it myself.

fabiodriven
05-06-2020, 01:02 AM
No this isn't part 2 haha, but here she is again. Thanks to Dave Little for this link.


https://youtu.be/qq2uuHfmq8k

ATC King
05-06-2020, 10:48 PM
Looking for a little sanity, I found this gem on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdybnTzMoD4

fabiodriven
05-07-2020, 09:56 PM
Here's another mind blower. Thanks to Doug for this one.


https://youtu.be/oQWRCECbN-Y

veyeable
05-08-2020, 10:52 AM
Exercising at home. Used to go to the gym but I'm stuck at home so might as well exercise at home.

fabiodriven
05-13-2020, 11:17 PM
Hey Canadians get 2K a month for the next 4 months...........we get 1.5K once ............dat cheap azz bastardo Trumpy dump...........i`m gonna gamble my stimulus chump change.........what will you do ?..........buy half a 250R ?.........fecked up world .....wow

I saw a little about the new proposed bill but I'm no expert on it yet. From what I saw it appears as though the dems are trying to add more ridiculous unnecessary spending instead of actual virus relief. I'm tired of the misappropriated funds. I think there's a severe problem with the government of this country to even allow that kind of spending on things that have nothing to do with the virus in the name of COVID, and that part I feel like may be the fault of both sides. I think COVID appropriations should be spent onnnnn..... the gall dang COVID 19 virus!

In my mind it makes the most sense to start opening things back up, both financially as well as for everyone's health.

ironchop
05-14-2020, 09:24 AM
Official Progressive Covid Response



Hey Canadians get 2K a month for the next 4 months...........we get 1.5K once ............dat cheap azz bastardo Trumpy dump...........i`m gonna gamble my stimulus chump change.........what will you do ?..........buy half a 250R ?.........fecked up world .....wow

You're mad because your American welfare check was smaller than a Canadian welfare check?

I didn't know you were a California Progressive and a Trudeau administration fanboy. My bad. Here's a soy latte for you! It's pumpkin spice! Your favorite!

NOTHING is free, Glamrock..... "Stimulus" is usually followed by a tax increase to make up the balance sheet losses and then inflation sets in "just because"..... I'd rather be taxed to pay back $1200, than to be taxed to pay back $4800. Your results may vary, of course, since Californians are already taxed to death

ironchop
05-14-2020, 10:28 AM
..........and they don`t give 2 sh!ts how many people die.......TOODLES !

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/ca393c27cb0360f8dc56f7ed1612bf0e.jpg

After all...... "If it saves JUST ONE life, it was all worth the trade in liberty!" --- A. Slave

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ironchop
05-14-2020, 11:24 AM
Yup stay away from that hooker pussy.........until your next stimulus check.........and you can walk with the animals.... talk to the animals.......and they will talk to you ...yea !Hey, Kommandant Newsome called..... Says he intercepted your stimulus check to pay the unemployment benefits for those Guatemalans you got mowing your yard?

Not sure what he's talking about...do you?

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Scootertrash
05-15-2020, 07:28 AM
Hey, Kommandant Newsome called..... Says he intercepted your stimulus check to pay the unemployment benefits for those Guatemalans you got mowing your yard?

Not sure what he's talking about...do you?

They also found out that all that money he spent on masks went right in the sh!tter. The masks are worthless and ineffective. So much for buying Chinese masks. Or was it just another Dem contribution of US taxpayer money to the Communist party?

fabiodriven
05-15-2020, 11:36 PM
It appears as though some headway has been made in the treatment of COVID. I'm sure this will be all over the news soon. It's just a short video so I hope people don't skip this, it's important.


https://youtu.be/m2s0nB2VPvs

Arky-X
05-16-2020, 02:56 AM
It appears as though some headway has been made in the treatment of COVID. I'm sure this will be all over the news soon. It's just a short video so I hope people don't skip this, it's important.


https://youtu.be/m2s0nB2VPvs

Out of all the youtube links you post and that is the one I click on :lol:

coolpool
05-16-2020, 10:15 AM
It appears as though some headway has been made in the treatment of COVID. I'm sure this will be all over the news soon. It's just a short video so I hope people don't skip this, it's important.


https://youtu.be/m2s0nB2VPvs

Oh boy, is the wacko from Waco?

coolpool
05-16-2020, 10:25 AM
Official Progressive Covid Response




You're mad because your American welfare check was smaller than a Canadian welfare check?

I didn't know you were a California Progressive and a Trudeau administration fanboy. My bad. Here's a soy latte for you! It's pumpkin spice! Your favorite!

NOTHING is free, Glamrock..... "Stimulus" is usually followed by a tax increase to make up the balance sheet losses and then inflation sets in "just because"..... I'd rather be taxed to pay back $1200, than to be taxed to pay back $4800. Your results may vary, of course, since Californians are already taxed to death

IDK what this handout will bring to be honest. There's already people refusing to go back to work because of (wait for it)..............free money; or so they think. At some point in time, dues will be paid. The Canadian deficit is expected to reach 1 trillion due to our bumbling (um, er, ah), sparkle socks, terrorist loving, gun hating Liberal Fu&$-tard we have for a PM. Correct Iron, I already pay over 40% tax and I expect another dig once this is over. Wonder what future income tax returns will look like......Hmmm, we see you were paid 2K for 12 months to stay home so it looks like you qualify for a refund! Don't worry, lil'old Pete in "cold as fac" Alberta will cover it.

Here's the sad part, that free handout is bigger than my taxed monthly pension from serving in the military for 20 years........ya, gotta love Canada!

fabiodriven
05-16-2020, 12:18 PM
Out of all the youtube links you post and that is the one I click on :lol:

Hahaha!! Glad you got to see it!

ps2fixer
05-25-2020, 09:18 PM
Unless this is photo shopped/fake, looks like our governor is doing a great job being a dictator... We are still in lock down, UP and Travers City (where the photo is taken) has relaxed slightly so businesses can open.

https://i.gyazo.com/b41c96e97988dec9bcfbfdd82124d26f.jpg

El Camexican
05-25-2020, 10:30 PM
Unless this is photo shopped/fake, looks like our governor is doing a great job being a dictator... We are still in lock down, UP and Travers City (where the photo is taken) has relaxed slightly so businesses can open.

https://i.gyazo.com/b41c96e97988dec9bcfbfdd82124d26f.jpg

That’s a lot of glasses. Four for one happy hour special?

I think it’s fake. What are the odds that two left handed people would end up sitting side by side?

ps2fixer
05-26-2020, 12:11 AM
Not sure, she's in the lifted restrictions area but yea the drinks look a bit odd to me too and the location of her body vs the rest seems a little off to me. If it's real, she would likely be near family for her son's graduation assuming that's the actual get together. It's from Twitter, so who knows how creditable it is.

Also the odds for left handed people is about 1 in 10, however people of power and people that are rich, the odds are reversed from what I've read in the past, about 9 in 10 wealthy people are left handed. No clue why or if it's from a creditable source again. I'm right handed, but I drink with left or right hand doesn't make a difference to me. I can't write left handed or do most other coordinated things left handed though.

Either case, it's an interesting photo.

El Camexican
05-26-2020, 07:30 AM
Not sure, she's in the lifted restrictions area but yea the drinks look a bit odd to me too and the location of her body vs the rest seems a little off to me. If it's real, she would likely be near family for her son's graduation assuming that's the actual get together. It's from Twitter, so who knows how creditable it is.

Also the odds for left handed people is about 1 in 10, however people of power and people that are rich, the odds are reversed from what I've read in the past, about 9 in 10 wealthy people are left handed. No clue why or if it's from a creditable source again. I'm right handed, but I drink with left or right hand doesn't make a difference to me. I can't write left handed or do most other coordinated things left handed though.

Either case, it's an interesting photo.

Open up the photo and take a close look at the glasses in front of her and then in front of the guy to her left. There is something very odd about them. It almost looks like they are on 45° Glass displays, but if you look a little closer there’s a menu underneath the one in front of her and some other kind of paper in front of his. Looks fake.

coolpool
05-26-2020, 10:24 AM
They look to be glass holders for a beer tasting gig. Maybe so a server can carry a couple without fear of dropping any? That's the Gov right? It seems all the politicians are under the microscope with compliance issues, just have to wonder which accusations are correct?

Interestingly enough, you wouldn't think much was going on around here in Northern Alberta as everything is opening with reduced seating and servers wearing PPE. It's kind of weird how we all can't wait to pay for overpriced bar draft and wings! And it seems the only people wearing masks in public are folks of (apparently) Asian decent?

ps2fixer
05-26-2020, 03:24 PM
Some businesses are deemed essential here, including restaurants (take out only), bars, standard stores (food, water etc). Small retail stores that don't carry essential items in stock were forced to close. Like thrift stores, clothing and such. The people effected by the dam breaking could really use access to cheap used clothes right about now. Oh did I mention motor powered boats are banned currently for use, but you can get on a large sail boat, no problem, both are kind of null points now since the lakes here are gone.

Here it's required to wear a mask in stores last I heard. So if someone doesn't have a mask, they can't buy one or buy their needed things. I don't know how many stores are enforcing it, I know atleast one in my area is kicking people out with out a mask.

The reported cases vs population numbers are very low in my area, up north they are slightly lower in spots and higher in others. The effected area is the major cities south like Detroit, Lansing, Flint, etc.

I know atleast 2 people that can't drive legally because the DMV/SOS is closed. I don't understand why they can't open it with limited people inside just like the stores. Title transfers are currently not possible, and I'm not sure if new plates can be ordered online or not. Upgrading from a driving permit to a license isn't possible currently. The state police are informed about the situation in the order, but doesn't say they can't fine the person. It does say they can't be jailed.


Anyway, it is what it is and people will do whatever they need to, to survive.

El Camexican
05-29-2020, 09:27 PM
The first person to die of coronavirus that I personally knew passed today. Mid 50s, no health issues that I was aware of, didn’t smoke, wasn’t overweight and as far as I know lead a pretty clean life.

R.I.P. Raul.

Scootertrash
06-07-2020, 07:34 AM
Sorry for your loss El, may your friend RIP

How long before we see an increase in cases from the protests and riots? Wisconsin opened it bars and restaurants May 14, 'rona cases peaked June 6. Why aren't we seeing massive increases in cases? Why aren't WI hospitals being overrun with sick folk?

Because we were lied to.

El Camexican
06-07-2020, 09:20 AM
Thanks Scooter.

Good question. With all that screaming and shouting there must be spit flying everywhere.

We reportedly passed the States in day on day deaths this week, 1,029 in a day, BUT we also know the hospitals are paying families to put “covid” on death certificates because they get money from the government for dealing with Covid cases.


It’s so bad there are jokes and songs being written about it. People dying from car accidents and gun shots being listed as covid deaths.

I think we’ll all know for sure how bad this is/was in a few more weeks now that things are opening up.

Fox250R
06-09-2020, 02:18 PM
I’m making sure I don’t wear a mask EVER! Been working good for me so far.

Scootertrash
06-09-2020, 05:26 PM
So I guess it's OK to protest in large, close knit groups. Unless of course you're protesting stay-at-home orders

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Shep1970
06-09-2020, 06:02 PM
funny how "they" get to protest in groups of thousands but my son gets a digital graduation and a very quick drive by jump out of car diploma pick up all by himself with no classmates nearby (picked up a few minutes apart)
the wifes pissed about it- im not too happy either.....
the school shoulda just called it a protest instead of graduation and it would have been fine i guess.....

still wearing my mask (only where posted) wife got me this one.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200609/61c86e1f23a557ec3be3f789a162b41b.jpg



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200609/46d183251c919cec8df631db0c4369b6.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200609/8a6a1e11de0d1cfa27bf792892fb6e59.jpg

top pic is one of the wifes daycare rooms so we could invite a bunch of people to watch (digitally)

shep


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ironchop
06-11-2020, 11:34 PM
Well maybe this whistleblower documentary will explain New Yorks high cove death toll........ Explosive info, in my opinion

https://youtu.be/UIDsKdeFOmQ

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fabiodriven
06-11-2020, 11:56 PM
That does suck Shep. You can obviously see who we're dealing with at this point.

Also condolences on the loss of your friend Nico.

I'm sure I'll take flack for it but I was highly suspect of this thing pretty much from the beginning. I never really believed it was an issue. Yes people are dying but people die every day normally. I think they've just shammed the world.

I watched that video Chop just shared earlier today but that's pretty much what I was curious about from the beginning of this whole thing.

fabiodriven
06-12-2020, 02:59 AM
I found this extremely interesting. I've always been a huge fan of crop circles, but this takes the cake. During our fake covid crisis, we actually got a virus crop circle. I know that's just a chuckle to most, but I was floored when I saw this. I think it's absolutely amazing something like this would happen and get next to no mention in the media.


https://youtu.be/_4nIj2rNoAY

oldskool83
06-12-2020, 08:05 AM
I'm eating lanterflys as they are the secrete way to stay immue during covid-19

Scootertrash
07-13-2020, 07:40 AM
It's just a mask - what's the big deal?
It's just a mask.
It's just six feet.
It's just two weeks.
It's just non-essential businesses.
It's just non-essential workers.
It's just a bar.
It's just a restaurant.
It's just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals.
It's just until the cases go down.
It's just to flatten the curve.
It's just a few inmates.
It's just to keep others from being scared.
It's just for a few more weeks.
It's just church. You could still pray.
It's just prayer.
It's just until we get a vaccine.
It's just a bracelet.
It's just an app.
It's just for tracing.
It's just to let people know you're safe to be around.
It's just to let others know who you've been in contact with.
It's just a few more months.
It's just some more inmates.
It's just a video.
It's just a post.
It's just an email account.
It's just for protecting other from hate speech.
It's just for protecting others from hurt feelings.
It's just a large gathering but for protests.
It's just a few violent protests.
It's just a little micro chip.
It's just a blood test.
It's just a test.
It's just a scan.
It's just for medical information!
It's just to store a vaccination certificate.
It's just like a credit card.
It's just a few places that don't take cash.
It's just so you can travel.
It's just so you can get your driver's license.
It's just so you can vote.
It's just mail-in voting.
It's just a few more years.
It's just a statue.
It's just a monument.
It's just a building.
It's just a song.
It's just a lyric.
It's just an anthem.
It's just a few words.
It's just a piece of paper.
It's just a book.
It's just a TV show.
It's just a cartoon character.
It's just a piece of cloth.
It's just a flag.
It's just a dog.
It's just a clump of cells.
It's just a fetus.
It's just a religion.
It's just a holiday.
It's just the people who don't think like we do.
Wait...it's not just a mask

Do you get it yet?

Yelowfincroaker
07-13-2020, 08:01 AM
It`s just a year.....or 2........or 3..........it`s just a half a million + people or more......it`s just whatever it takes to muck up your retirement ..........it`s just print more money who cares ?...........it`s just a $30 cheese burger.......it`s just we don`t even ask why China unleashed a virus we developed and let Dr. Foukme sell to China for 3.7 mil.........because we`re afraid to hurt they`re feelings...........it`s just another dumass election so asshole Trumpy Dump can call himsrlf a hero because he saved us all from the Demoncraps !.........it`s just great that white lives matter..........it`s just a name Redskins..........it`s just Nico Suave waiting for the bad guy`s to show up at his new compound !........it`s sad and depressing everywhere you look people are selling covid masks even like stereo shops ..........why don`t they sell heroin instead .........there`s a brighter future in that ........at least you`d be having a good time.........right ?......i know right.........fa fa fa fa fouk diss