3 wheeler XC Racing in INDIANA! CANCELED!! F#@K INSURANCE!

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If you didn't know the Extreme XC racing series in Indiana has a 3 wheeler class on their schedule for this year. They have 2 classes as of now lites (200cc and below) and heavy (201 and up). There were only 4 of us at this race this past weekend but it was still a blast. There were 2 200x's in the lite class and an 86 250r and my 250 polaris P3 in the heavy.... yes I know, a polaris against a 250 is like bringing hands to a machine gun fight but believe it or not I still placed 1st due to the 250r having throttle cable issues. So if that tells you anything don't be worried about what to bring and race if you can make it. A 200x, dx225, 250sx, 350x and 250r would all be great be at the end of the day you just have to be reliable enough to finish the race. I'll post pictures of my race if anyone took any of it later.

Here's a link to their page. Look them up on Facebook also to keep up to date with the schedule if something changes.

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[Footy]

Awesome! You know we want pics. My back ground is in GNCC so this would be fun for me. Long drive though.

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Here's the few pictures that were taken. There's a few short videos but nothing too amazing. The P3 did great until I started my 4th lap and it tossed the chain right out of the scoring tent and got bound up in the transmission and stopped my race.

Earlier in the day I placed 2nd on my 09 trx50er. That race was 2 hours long and I completed 5 laps. I was down 10 minutes and a lap from the leader but it was a rough track so I was already wore out before this race with the 3 wheelers. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230308/baa146839026255288dc2413a364a34a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230308/86d0c7a9881c27143409ae096c787fe3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230308/ceec4176cefe9e59248d360375dc0e53.jpg

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[atc300r]

Congrats on your win.I have been trying to get some of the Cross Country atv series here in NY to let us race trikes no luck so far.

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Next round is coming up. It'd be awesome to see more lined up at the start!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230315/d5d77ece7f857e03def3b446e7ae70cb.jpg

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This 85 350x is what I'm trying to finish before the end of the season. I had planned to have to done by the start of it, but my 450r blew up, and I spent what money I had to get it back together. I finally have the new main bearings and connecting rod to rebuild the crankshaft and get the bottom end done. The cylinder was dropped off last week so hopefully it'll come together quickly. The rear tires are just for mock up to see what all I'm still missing. I can't wait to have this out on the trails racing XC!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230315/8d1601fa5be64f8a6dd8a8dfdd50db3b.jpg

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The race for this weekend was postponed until the 15-16 of April. That's going to be a busy weekend for me because the other series I race in is also on that weekend but on Sunday. So I'll be racing Saturday on the 450 and whatever 3 wheeler I take (probably my 250sx) and then Sunday on the 450r. I might get my ltz400 back up and going for a backup. Not sure.

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Placed 4th in the 3 wheeler class on a 250sx (last place) against 250r's. Placed 5th on the 450r Saturday and 2nd on Sunday with crossroads racing series.

So far, I'm 2nd overall in points on 3 wheelers and 9th overall on the 450r with Extreme XC and I'm 1st in points with Crossroads. Not too bad for a weekend of racing. I need to get this this 350x finished so I can race it. If anyone has a complete seat and decent rear fenders (maier would work) I'd be interested if you are close to indiana.

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[keister]

Very cool!
I hope you get that 350X going soon. I bet if you get off the SX and onto the 350 you will hurt some feelings of those 250R guys.

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Got another race coming up this Saturday if anyone wants to tryhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230426/541b00a926af8c139f45177c063aa15d.jpg

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Took 1st today on my polaris P3. Also, I took 5th on my 450r earlier in the day. You guys are missing out on some good racing. WE NEED RACERS TO COME TO THIS EVENT. Hell, One guy that's been showing up is driving from Alabama. It's not super hard. They put us on the intermediate track that doesn't have any big hills or anything, and we only run for about 45 minutes. Most of it is pretty fast. I mean..... I'm racing a tank of a 3 wheeler and still doing well.

You guys could come out on 200x's, 350x's, 250r's, DX225's, or tri-z's. Basically, anything with suspension (highly recommended, lol). It would just be awesome to put on a good show for everyone that is there and continue to give Extreme Xc a reason to keep the 3 wheeler class. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230430/bd5f512aa1fc54110dcfdbd556557cd8.jpg

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Next round at the end of the month. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230509/a865dc59ebead598c3bc63495dadd91c.jpg

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Took 2nd today on the polaris. It just doesn't have good enough suspension to go fast through the rough woods stuff. But it's fast as hell in the open sections
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Took another 1st place in the heavy class but second overall because only 2 people (me being one) to race. You guys if you are close are missing out on some good fun! Also took 2nd on my 450 earlier in the day in Vet C30+. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230622/66ead7536b96e026446e44efb8e3be32.jpg

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Next race is this weekend in rockville indiana.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230628/79ac4e473d21b3e7ad1a651c5a5ccd1f.jpg

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[n4dcb]

Is that an 86 Swingarm? Are the brakes mounting the same?

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Is that an 86 Swingarm? Are the brakes mounting the same?No, it's an 85 that I cut the original brake stay piece off and drilled and welded a bolt in for a new brake stay bushing and then I used the 450r caliper, stay, hub and rotor. They work pretty well other than I think the rotor is bent.

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You can see in the first picture where I drilled all the way through for the bolt. I used a bolt with a long shoulder on it and cut the threads and head off and welded it after doing some measuring and mock ups. I built this 350x from a pile of parts starting about a year ago and I just took it for its first ride today. I need to rejet the carb but it's finally running. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230716/1ed496e7a0481404c749856cd0236cfc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230716/248eada4d53aa3689ea91b6fffe3395f.jpg

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[Dirtcrasher]

Nice job thinking out of the box! it's fairly easy to use any rear caliper on anything after doing some mock up work, the fronts have to fit within the rim and mount to the fork leg so they're not as easy to swap with 3 wheelers. I buy up any cheap 85 350X swingarms I can find, chop off the threaded stud and make a 86 style pin with a groove in my lathe, weld it on and then have 86 style brakes. The 85 brake setup adds allot of extra parts that get sloppy, and there seem to be far more 85 swingarms than the 86's out there. I was buying new NOS TRX450 calipers from Honda for 100$, they've gone up a bit since then but you still can't beat the price for a brand new Japan caliper.

The other swap I've done multiple times is to mill down the 450R swingarm and with some other mods you can run the entire 450R rear end with the axle and hubs etc on an 85/86 350X with linkage suspension, it works very well. Back 5 years ago I could find new take off swingarms for 50$ and take off new axles for under 100$, they too have gone up allot in price, just like everything.

You may have bought those 86 sprocket bolts from me on Ebay, same user name... I sold quite a few of them.

Indiana is such an awesome place for riding. Did you get your 350X motor all set??

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Nice job thinking out of the box! it's fairly easy to use any rear caliper on anything after doing some mock up work, the fronts have to fit within the rim and mount to the fork leg so they're not as easy to swap with 3 wheelers. I buy up any cheap 85 350X swingarms I can find, chop off the threaded stud and make a 86 style pin with a groove in my lathe, weld it on and then have 86 style brakes. The 85 brake setup adds allot of extra parts that get sloppy, and there seem to be far more 85 swingarms than the 86's out there. I was buying new NOS TRX450 calipers from Honda for 100$, they've gone up a bit since then but you still can't beat the price for a brand new Japan caliper.

The other swap I've done multiple times is to mill down the 450R swingarm and with some other mods you can run the entire 450R rear end with the axle and hubs etc on an 85/86 350X with linkage suspension, it works very well. Back 5 years ago I could find new take off swingarms for 50$ and take off new axles for under 100$, they too have gone up allot in price, just like everything.

You may have bought those 86 sprocket bolts from me on Ebay, same user name... I sold quite a few of them.

Indiana is such an awesome place for riding. Did you get your 350X motor all set??I did get the axle bolts and the counter shaft bearing and seal from you too.

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I had forgot to mention that I placed 3rd during that last race. They had actually postponed it one weekend due to weather but I got 1st on my 450r and 3rd on my dx225 (actually 2nd but they scored us wrong). https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230717/d48e7230e917aab468e8b5fb0fa0cc00.jpg

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Next race is July 29th at 4:15. I wish we could get more people to come out and race. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230718/c041864c802474773fcf89ee8f6b65c3.jpg

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[Dirtcrasher]

I'm nearly out of those bearings and seals, and they weren't easy to get. I also had the discontinued brake pedal dust seals made for the R and X, people would be shocked to know how long it takes and what it costs. Such a tiny dust seal with no spring I figured would be about .50 cents to make, not so in the least. But, once you reach out to a dozen or so manufacturers and only 1 gives you a quote, what can you do?? What's even worse was about 600 seals still weighs under 1lb, but because it's an "industry" they charge 40$ shipping for a 8x8x8 box.; it's very frustrating.

As far as your racing, I'm amazed that more people aren't showing up, you'd have better luck telling people on Facebook, that's where everyone is now. Many years ago there was a tight knit group of guys here all helping each other, almost no one got scammed ever, great group of people. I miss those days...

[Trike_crazy]

I've been sharing away on Facebook and a few others I know have too. I'm mainly just trying to document everything here so that if by chance someone close sees it that doesn't use Facebook they would have the opportunity to come out.

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[Dirtcrasher]

I've been sharing away on Facebook and a few others I know have too. I'm mainly just trying to document everything here so that if by chance someone close sees it that doesn't use Facebook they would have the opportunity to come out.

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It's kind of crazy, with all the people going to Trikefest in Indiana, which basically has no racing anymore (as it once did), why wouldn't they want to go to races in Indiana!!?? People should show up in force and they may open up more events, all they care about is attendance and the revenue generated.

I'm sure some people are old school in that area but overall no matter if it's turtles or mosquitos racing, they need to pay for the track, the machines, taxes, permits, insurance, watering, the equipment needed to maintain everything, the workers etc, if lots of people show up and is prosperous, they will have more events.

I'm about 10 minutes from a track they let us on in Massachusetts for the NHMX 3wheeler class that year, same year they let us on Southwick. Barely anyone showed up that even had gear. They had open face helmets, atc200's, hardtails, workboots and jeans, that was one and only event ever in 30 years. I can't even practice there now.

These days it seems like people beg to allow 3 wheelers yet when they give a date only a handful of guys show up. People made enough noise that 3 wheelers were allowed at Southwick MA, ONE TIME in 30 years, and I think 6 guys showed up. I was hurt ATM and couldn't go, but Southwick was huge for ATC racing back in 1984/1985, it was the most amazing racing I had ever seen. Yet people 10 years older than me that live out West saw so much more...

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Well, all good things must come to an end...... due to insurance not wanting to cover 3 wheelers, they had to stop racing them even though we've only had one injury all season. Compared to quads and dirtbikes that have multiple injuries every round. It just sucks because I've spent so much time and money putting this 350x together just to race this series. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230724/add4dfdb9a22b0bd6d1c33469e3003ee.jpg

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[86T3]

That really sucks, I'm sorry you're having to deal with it. I hope you guys can find some way to continue your series

[Dirtcrasher]

I can't believe here in 2023 there is still such a stigma against 3 wheelers. They are no more or less dangerous than anything with a motor, even an electric motor. I personally feel safer on a trike than most anything else...