please help..no spark

[pappacrappie]

hey fellas...i have a 83 200e big red that isnt getting spark to the plug,or to the cdi...is the stator my problem?..is there anywhere i could get a wiring diagram for it?..i just bought it and it run great till i got it off the trailor...no it aint firing?? any help is appreacited..

[oicu812]

If it ran untill you took it off the trailer, Id be checking wire connections to see if something got pulled loose before I did anything else.

[pappacrappie]

did that...it all looks fine....

[jeswinehart]

fuse ???


john

[pappacrappie]

where would it be...sounds more possible...never had a 3 wheeler....

[pappacrappie]

guess i aint the only one who dont know...thanks anyway..

[Howdy]

Most manufactures put the fuse close to the battery.

To help figure out this problem give us a little more info:
What happens when you turn the key on? If you get power to the lights / dash, ect, then your fuse is good.
If you do not get any power then you need to check the fuse and possibly charge the battery. If these check out good you may have a wire or a connection problem.

If you have Power with the key on:
Does the motor turn over with the electric start?

If it does turn over then double check your kill switch on the left handle bar to be sure it in the run position. If this checks out then try a different spark plug ( A known Good one ). You can use just about any plug to test for spark. If you have spark with the different plug then the original spark plug is bad.

Check these items out and give us a full report.
Thanks
Howdy

[JoeSuzuki]

You have a BIgred, than its got notin to do with your battery or fuses,,, i run mine without a battery and fuse isnt wired so its got to be the coil wiring, check the ground on the coil its a comon problem with 83 reds.

[pappacrappie]

thanks guys...i'm going crazy...i just bought another 200E for parts..ok..heres what i got...
starter turns the motor over good...i have swaped out CDI unit with a good one...i still have no fire to the hot lead at the coil(Y/B wire i think).i found fuses..there both good..
if everything is good...should the hot lead to the coil be hot when the motor is turning over? i dont understand how the ign. system works on the thing...where does the fire start..and how is it transfered to the coil? any help is very much appreciated...turkey season starts tomarrow...and my trike dont run...i got 2 miles to walk to the bottom without it...ouch....

[JoeSuzuki]

have you change the spark plug???????? if not change it, if so , and you still dont get fire at the plug then its got to be the CDI or magneto.

[pappacrappie]

ok..i've tryed 3 plugs...i tested the folowing with a ohmmeter; ign. switch,CDI box,pulse generator,rectifier,ign. coil,...and the exciter coil..but the exciter coil was cold so the low reading could have been the temp....but there was resistance.
when i spin the starter over..with a test light i get alternating current from the 2 yellow wires coming from the alt...the black/red wire(coming from same place) has NO current at all,(should it have alternating current too) when i spin the starter over...with just the key on...nothing is hot but the 3 rectifier wires(green is ground..i think)
is there anyone that can explain to me how the electricty flows through this system...so maybe i can figure out where the fire is stoping at...i would really appreaciate it..i have a book...but i'm just not sure how it travels through the system...thanks

[atcpunk107]

Hey here is a diagram of the wire harness. I hope it helps you out, let me know ok.

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/oem_schematic_view.asp?schem_dept_id=177468&sectio n_dept_id=1&section_dept_name=OEM+%28Stock+Parts%2 9&dept_type_id=2&model_dept_year=1983&model_dept_m fr=Honda&model_dept_id=174428&model_dept_name=ATC2 00E

[pappacrappie]

thanks for all the help fellas.....ole girls purrin right along now....do you belive all 3 plugs i bought were bad? went to another store and got 2 and it fired right up... :oops: