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jmsmilin
08-11-2004, 07:21 PM
I saw a similar post, but it dint really address what we can do to bring em back. I live in TX and it kills me that you have to wear your seatbelt, but as a motorcycle owner having gone thru the safety course I dont have to wear a helmet??? Yet 3-wheelers are too dangerous? How crazy is that and says who, I think in the year 2004 we need to look into to the 2 and 4 wheel ATV statistics and see how the dangerous tri wheelers stack up.

So how did trikes get outlawed, what old school crusty moron had the final say, and who can we write to start the production lines going again. Im sure all here would sign the petitition.

plkmonster2
08-11-2004, 07:53 PM
It would be nice to see production 2006 trikes, but I doubt that any manufacturer would actually take the initiative to. Quads have become very popular in the past few years, and IMO, they are more competitive than trikes. Yes it is stupid taht you don't have to wear your helmet. Well, if you don't, don't blame me for not telling you to. I've seen more people get hurt from not wearing helmets, and the injury wouldn't have been if they were wearing one. A lot of people try to find excuses to ban things. From Martha Stewart, to trikes, etc. It only takes 1 idea to spark a revolution. The people that were involved with the "production ban" probably had no experience with the industry. It was all a gimmic to get rid of something that they think is not needed. When I used "ban" in my writing, I didn't mean outlawed, I meant that the production, or sales were stopped.

threewheelin-feelin
08-11-2004, 08:28 PM
i think if enuff ppl signed a petition they would go back into production. by the way quads are not more compeditive then a trike i dont think .

deathman53
08-11-2004, 10:06 PM
I feel trikes are more competetive, it takes more skill to ride them and rider skill is real big with racing. anymost any idiot can ride a quad and it doesn't take that long to get good(if you have the motiivation and cordination), but trikes take awhile to master and the difference in skill would have a huge effect on racing. I don't think trikes will be back, everyone still thinks they are dangerous and even the thought of honda to make one would have all the mother groups and doctors on the crusade. I think back in 98 or 99 a company was gonna make a trike again, but the idea got killed by the pencil pushers before the first prototype. also trike racing was banned, why would a complany make a bike they couldn't race???????

H.M.F.I.C.
08-11-2004, 11:20 PM
I know we would all love for them to be back but it is just not going to happen. I work on quads and trikes and when a quad owner comes up and we are talking and I say somthing about a trike, oh no, those things are death trps blah blah blah. It seems like so many people have a cousin, brother, or someone who got hurt riding a trike and those are all the people who would be against those of use who love them. i have been hurt on trike and hurt even worse on a quad. Seeing how honda still has to keep an original model of every type of trike they ever made to defend themselves in court to this day, I don't think that they will be getting back into the trike market. I agree with deathman. I know some guys around here that can rip pretty good on a quad and then when they get on my R the can't even go around a turn without turning it over and complain about how the front tire comes off the ground to easy but yet I can still out run them throught the woods and around the track and most times through the drags. Yes, we have been dealt a crappy hand but I have one with worse. I guess we will all have to try to.

TrikeKid
08-12-2004, 04:00 AM
quads are safer till they flip i dont think trikes will ever come back thats the way it is you have to live with that. even if they were able too i doubt any company would take the finacial risk involved in making trikes. if things were diffrent and you couldnt sue for anything and everything it would be diffrent but in a world where you can sue about youre neighbors dog being to loud or something like that its a bad finacial move.

ScottZJ
08-12-2004, 07:27 AM
Actually the "BAN" has been expired for quite a few years now, I think it was in 96 or 98, one of those years. So all shops could start selling them again if they wanted to and making them. But the problem is they received such a bad name, I am sure they wouldnt make enough money to even think about the production costs. I am sure if they did make them, people would all try to go into lawsuits again to make a quick buck. :rolleyes: So it is very doubtful that they would ever start making them again.

Ivant
08-12-2004, 07:32 AM
Why doesnt a company start making frames so people can swap their 450R parts onto it??

sell it as a replacement frame, then only keen people would build the bikes and not hurt themselves as often.

TrikerR
08-12-2004, 10:12 AM
i think everyone should forget the idea of trikes coming back and just accept the fact the age of the trike is over and only those who truly love their machines will continue the tradition of 3 Wheeling

ScottZJ
08-12-2004, 10:23 AM
Hey what are you talking about.........the 80's ARE COMING BACK! LOL Check out the commercials, using 80's themes and music and then the styles are 80's. So why cant the 3 wheelers come back in style too....they were 80's! :p

TrikerR
08-12-2004, 10:33 AM
the 80's may be coming back, but 3 wheelers will on be only heard of by die hard trikers. the old manufacturers have long forgotten the trike and have moved onto greener, and by their stanards safer pastures.

Billy Golightly
08-12-2004, 11:47 AM
The only way it will EVER work is if the AMA and the ATVA come up with a "Vintage ATV Racing" series or whatever that allows threewheelers. If that happened, it might take a step further where the aftermarket would start making products again, and then it would be a BIG BIG BIG maybe that the factories would get involved but the chances are nothing and slimmer.

86250RZ
08-12-2004, 01:03 PM
I agree that there will never be a production made 3 wheeler ever again :mad: But man wouldnt it be awsome if the ATVA or AMA did have a vintage 3 wheeler race (i'm dreaming I know) I would be there in a sec. Man I miss the days when I could just ride right down the rode from my house and watch about 60+ trikes spread out in different classes go at it for 2 days, Man, I miss those days. :TrikesOwn

lilatv
08-12-2004, 02:10 PM
One reason why I think four wheelers are a good design...4 wheel drive.

One reason why I think three wheelers should never be produced again...the value of mine will hopefully keep going up. Besides, it seems everyone here that owns a three wheeler enjoys the mystic or preconceived notions that non atv enthusuiats hold (they are illegal or they are more dangerous).

I had a cousin that was killed for some reason or another, during the operation of his three wheeler...with that in mind, I am not so sure any one atv is any safer than another...a person could get killed on a childs tricycle if certain unfortunate events occured.

Who knows?

threewheelin-feelin
08-12-2004, 02:16 PM
i think if the cpsc did some real studys they would find that quads may be more stable but try picking a quad up off of you when it tips compaired to a trike. a trike may tip a little easyier but i dont think quads are any safer i think both bike have advantages. i think that the design flaw is not a wide enuff wheel base on either. its kinda like jeeps ive heard the tip over easily in sharp turns cause they dont have a wide enuff wheel base but the way i see it is nether one is safe bikes trikes quads are all death traps. next time someone trys to tell you how unsafe you 3wheeler is ask them how many death happen each year on quads and injuries see what they say they will proble not want to ansrew.

AirManCam
08-12-2004, 03:48 PM
I think if some how the manufactures could make new trikes, and price them the same as they used to be people would buy them becuase of the cheaper price. But thats just an "idear"

AZ250R
08-12-2004, 03:58 PM
If I remember right there is a Petition going out on the web somewhere that is trying to NOT let them BAN trikes again. Need someone to find it, but it was huge and I singed it. The original ban was for like 9 years or something, I remember when they did it I had just gotten my first 84 250R and thought they might try & come take it away from me... :Evil I was gonna run with my trike ;)

So they're NOT Ban'd from production anymore but I think the gov. is still highly aginst it and would try and stop it again if they needed to, so find that petition and sign it IMO!

& why can't you put a 450 motor into your 250R frame??? People fit them into their 250R quad frames all the time, which takes the same motor as the trike. :beer

Billy Golightly
08-12-2004, 04:07 PM
Actually I'm the one that started that petition your talking about. After doing some investigating though I found out that what I had heard and understood about the CPSC trying to put the ban back into effect again was actually BS. I was/am a bit embarassed of making such a big deal out of something that turned out to be nothing...

Billy Golightly
08-12-2004, 04:14 PM
One reason why I think four wheelers are a good design...4 wheel drive.

One reason why I think three wheelers should never be produced again...the value of mine will hopefully keep going up. Besides, it seems everyone here that owns a three wheeler enjoys the mystic or preconceived notions that non atv enthusuiats hold (they are illegal or they are more dangerous).

I had a cousin that was killed for some reason or another, during the operation of his three wheeler...with that in mind, I am not so sure any one atv is any safer than another...a person could get killed on a childs tricycle if certain unfortunate events occured.

Who knows?


The main thing is that an alarming rate of the servere injuries on threewheelers (Perhaps not in your cousins case, but in many others) were from a lack of ANY saftey gear, double riding, intoxication, and operation on a paved road. I seen some statistics from a state a while back about the deaths on threewheelers (I wish I could find them again) but it was something like out of 80 deaths more then 60 had to do with the things I listed above. No saftey gear, operating on a paved road, double riding, or the rider was intoxicated. I wish someone could put these figures together with car related fatalities and add in the variables I mentioned and see how things compared, I think everyone would be very surpised at the relatively safe statistics of a threewheelers vs a car in the same enviroment.

brandosfiero
08-12-2004, 08:39 PM
well i probly hate quads more than anyone on here.when i see someone on a qaud all i say is those are for girls lol.