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peeweesp
10-11-2004, 04:03 PM
Hey guys i want to get more power out of by 200s i was thinking about boring it out anyone know what the biggest bore i could get is and how much power it would add?

MTS
10-11-2004, 04:09 PM
only bore as little as you can..i would suggest a wiseco high compression piston with a webcamshaft...links are http://www.wiseco.com/PDFcatalogs/ps04-honda.pdf page 10 for the piston and a cam at www.webcamshafts.com i think a 185s cam is the same as the 200s but you would have to check with them..hopes this helps

smokinp
10-11-2004, 04:15 PM
boring an engine does not help the performance enough the you will notice anything,I put a Wiseco 12:1 high compression piston kit in my 200S engine(bored .002 over) and it made a huge difference,a webcamshaft would make a difference and so would a free flow exhuast system ( www.dgperf.com ) a K&N air filter or UNI,20 inch tires would give you some more low end power and a 200x cylinder...

OldSchoolin86
10-11-2004, 04:20 PM
Welcome peeweesp! These guys will help you with everything including tuning the carb when your done. ;)

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 07:00 PM
thx and i was wondering also if i could just buy a xr200 carb and piston if i would work in the 200s my friend said he saw something about it

rob0781
10-11-2004, 07:02 PM
i'd leave it the way it is and just have fun on it..

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 07:07 PM
well i need new rings so i figured a new piston wouldnt hurt it has never been rebuilt at or anything it gose threw lots of spark plugs so i figure it needs rings

rob0781
10-11-2004, 07:17 PM
could be bad valves,for what it's worth being a 200s i'd rebuild it stock unless your riding on flat ground,power doesn't help with no suspension,unless you plan on swapping the engine into a 200X roller eventually..

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 07:20 PM
i dont think i would swap it dont have the money too do that just trying to get a littile more power for a pretty cheap price.

MTS
10-11-2004, 07:40 PM
if your just looking for the exrea boost just go with a nice wiseco 10.25.1 piston..you will be amazed of the diffrence and you dont have to go messing around with bigger carbs...you should more than easily be able to tune the old one up..as for your spark plug problem...search for spark plug readings on the serch button on this form..you will find lots of helpful tips to retune it, and what your spark plug should look like and how to tests it..hope this helps.. :)

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 08:11 PM
about how much would the piston run ?

MTS
10-11-2004, 09:01 PM
The piston will run you about $101.30 and that comes with wrist pin,circlips,rings the part number is 4156M06550 check out the site www.wiseco.com
:TrikesOwn :D

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 09:19 PM
hmm ic i c anyone know anything about regearing too? (lol if you wonder why i ask all this just trying too see how fast i can get the 200s to go with not too much money spent) lol

MTS
10-11-2004, 09:24 PM
yea you can re-gear it but i dont know much about that you have to wait for someone more smarter than me to read the thred..lol

smokey
10-11-2004, 09:42 PM
Here is a pistion kit for 82.95
http://www.psep.biz/store/honda_piston_rings_kits.htm
It is about 3/4 way down the page

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 10:14 PM
what about the 12:1 compression? i would probobly need to run diffrent gas or something right

MTS
10-11-2004, 10:52 PM
if you where to run a 12:1 yes you would have to run 108 octane..i wouldent recomemnd it becuse it will heat up quicker and is more finiky..i would stick with a 10:5:1 or 10:25:1 :)

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 10:59 PM
i wouldnt do 12:1 just cause it would be more expensive for gas and its already expensive lol

MTS
10-11-2004, 11:07 PM
yep..lol my friend has a 200s..its pretty beastie as it is..lots of low end torqe..yours like this..with the big ass spark arrestor? ..where not sure whats its really like becuse there is some rev problems with it..thou where thinkin it might have an old wiseco pistton in it becuse its been rebuilt in the past can tell by the silicon :rolleyes: but the thing has roll on the power bring up the front end power in first 3 gears :eek:

peeweesp
10-11-2004, 11:39 PM
well i can bring the fornt wheel off the ground 1-4 but thats not really form power on mine i remove the baffle and spark arrestor but the brace that holds the muffler to the head pipe is broke so its pretty much running strait off the header lol loud very loud so we patched that up a little.

oh and i always wanted to know why if it had that piston why would it need higher octance gas? i have seen this in other fourms didnt know the reason why it would need higher octane gas.

smokinp
10-11-2004, 11:57 PM
I have a 200S engine in my 200X with a 12:1 wiseco piston kit and it made a huge difference,I am suppose to run 108 octane but i run supreme with ooz(or something like that)booster which makes it 97 octane or a 100 if i mix it at a higher ratio and it runs fine and has for 1 year now....

kryppy
10-12-2004, 09:04 AM
Hey guys i want to get more power out of by 200s i was thinking about boring it out anyone know what the biggest bore i could get is and how much power it would add?


When my stock exhaust fell off, mine went from 50MPH to 61MPH top end.

I have made a straight pipe now. Thinking of putting a spark arrester back there, or something to block the guys view behind me of the fire from the hole.
I'll bet a piston does almost nothing, unless your rings are BAD.

I like the talk of a cam in this thread. Sounds like my next mod.

Good luck

smokinp
10-12-2004, 02:05 PM
I'll bet a piston does almost nothing, I piston will make a huge differnce if it is a overbore like a 10.25:1 or a 12:1

peeweesp
10-12-2004, 03:49 PM
well i was looking in a fourm today and i saw a turbo on a quad anyone seen something like that beofre

OldSchoolin86
10-12-2004, 04:05 PM
well i was looking in a fourm today and i saw a turbo on a quad anyone seen something like that beofre
Thought you didn't have much money? lol

peeweesp
10-12-2004, 04:44 PM
i dont lol i saw a turbo a small one on ebay for 50$ just wondering i dont think i would do it but ive never seen it done to a trike

atcmatt
10-12-2004, 06:47 PM
"Mymint87" has a Nicholsan 500 turbo. Its an old xr500 motor (I think) with a turbo on it. I bet that thing would hammer!

Matt

peeweesp
10-12-2004, 08:18 PM
i c i c well if i found a turbo for cheap i would try to put it on just to say i have a turbo 200s lol

OldSchoolin86
10-12-2004, 08:42 PM
That would be sweet to say you had a turbo 200s! :Bounce

peeweesp
10-12-2004, 08:45 PM
yeah it would ill have to watch ebay anyone know anything about small turbos >? i just need a small one nothing too big lol?

hondaATCman
10-12-2004, 08:53 PM
hmm ic i c anyone know anything about regearing too? (lol if you wonder why i ask all this just trying too see how fast i can get the 200s to go with not too much money spent) lol

More top speed = bigger front sprocket, smaller rear sprocket

More low end/acceleration = smaller front sprocket, bigger rear sprocket

peeweesp
10-13-2004, 04:34 PM
so there is a turbo on ebay for 50$ has 17 hours left lol

PlatinumDogg
10-14-2004, 08:13 PM
I would definately look in to the high compression piston, did it on mine...woooo, really noticed it up top...pulled pretty good....

Recently i hopped on my neighbours stock 200m, im riddin it n im like...common lets go you trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro...got WOT lol, barely going...had to take mine out after that lol..

HIghly reccommend the piston :Bounce