overseas buying

[TrikerR]

i might be buying a 1985 350x off of atcphil from here on the boards and was just wondering if you guys thinks its a good idea to be buying from overseas. if i pay by paypal am i protected against scams. sorry phil, its not you mate.

[83185s]

i would..but its gonna be a B***h to get back..and if its not it will be for the shipping

[ClayW]

Tough position to be in. I know they arent near as plentyful over there. Tough call. :(

[KASEY]

i have seen to many scams from overseas,,, i would save your hard earned money for something domestic :naughty: :naughty:

[trikerider2oo7]

even if its not a scam youre still gonna hav to ship it..shipping on it will probably be more than bike costs

[TrikerR]

the price is 900au incl shipping.

[atcmatt]

Holy ****, where are you finding deals like that mate? If thats for real 900 Aus dollars, includes shipping and the trike is in decent shape I would jump on that in a second!

Matt

[greenhuman]

If you allow $500aud for shipping , that means you are paying $300us for the trike. Too good to be true. Be real careful.

[TrikerR]

this is his last email...dose it sound suss.

Dont worry about the couriour i have a full package deal, so the end sale price is what you pay, it will be shipped with a south african import company, it will stop at south africa to re-fuel then carry on to austrailia, then DHL will take it from there, this is costing me £130 (english)

sorry in the last email i mentioned the states, i meant AUZ! durr :-)

[marshallfester^australia]

Hope you know what you are doing Ned, I have shipped Atc stuff from around the world and never had a deal like that before.............If you do it I really hope you guys prove me wrong........ :beer

[TrikerR]

i dont know what to do. i mean the X is the perfect bike for me, but i have never seen one in Oz. ARRGGHHH im torn.

[marshallfester^australia]

Pops from South Australia has one,and one of atcMatts mates has one in NSW. (hell one or two ones in that last sentence!). I went to ship out from England a rear diff assy for a 200 es by boat and it would have cost me 320.00 pounds in freight and import duty! In the end I brought it of atcMatt ( thanks young Matt!!!!!!!) Send a email to Greenhuman and ask him for he use to import trikes all the time. :beer

[TrikerR]

i mean on the west coast...he really sounds legit though, i think im going to go for it.

[marshallfester^australia]

Ned PLJ. posted this back in 2003, it may pay to drop him a email and ask him how he went? :beer Overseas Shipping?? International transactions??

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Has anyone here had any dealings with overseas shipping of a bike?? I had a bike listed on ebay and this gentleman purchased it with a "buy it now" He already paypalled a deposit and sounds very serious. I have never shipped a bike out of the country before, and honestly do not know what to expect!! I would like to make it happen for him but what carrier or freight company deals in these transactions??? Any info. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[TrikerR]

a user, ned PLJ posted that

[Lots_Of_Nothing]

this is his last email...dose it sound suss.

Dont worry about the couriour i have a full package deal, so the end sale price is what you pay, it will be shipped with a south african import company, it will stop at south africa to re-fuel then carry on to austrailia, then DHL will take it from there, this is costing me £130 (english)

sorry in the last email i mentioned the states, i meant AUZ! durr :-)



Sounds exactly like all the spam e-mail I get. I wouldnt go for it unless you have a way to protect the money. Scams are getting smarter and more realistic each day.

[Billy Golightly]

Do this, hehe.

Tell him to get his camera, and a piece of paper. On the peice of paper, tell him to write your username and www.3wheelerworld.com underneath of it. Have him take a picture of the paper with that on it sitting on the 350X, and then send it to you. Atleast then you can feel safe :p

Is the person a member of the forum here? I will "check them out" for you if you want, PM me their username.

[TrikerR]

first to last of all private messages.

Hi mate!

Thats not a problem, it will be the same shipping as the world is in zones, and your in zone 2 with usa!

so shipping is not a problem!
regardng the price, well im looking for

1,672.17 AUD - im not sure if this is correct?

Im after £700 english money, this will include shipping, as i know it will cost around £100 to send it!

hows this for you?
or i have a tri z for sale, which ive seen you want in your sig, this is a 1986 tri z, all stock, just has a rip in the seat. this is 2,150.31 AUD which is £900, im sure we can round the price off to the nearest hundred?

speak soon
thanks alot buddy


Hi mate,

im not selling them in my area, being the fact no one wants them, as im in the UK

Like i said shipping is not a problem, what price can you pay yourself maybe we can come to a agreement!

write back
thanks
phil


mate,

how much have you got know?

Cause i can let the 350x go lower, as i only got it cheap as he blew the piston thats why its got a wiseco piston and rings!

Let me know, and we can get sorted!
speak soon
phil


$900 (aud)

Thats cool, if you want this trike, then we can get this sorted, i can just sell my tri-z for a bit more and make money back!

Im with paypal, or western union?
let me know asap
on my lunch break
cheers
phil


Hi mate!

we can use paypal, as its secure?

phil


Hey!

Yes thats shipping!
It will be to your door, it will take around 20 days as i havent the money to get it shipped priority
if i did it owuld be with you within 14 days. i know shipping from japan would be 26 days and your closer than japan!

My girlfriends uncle owns an import company at dover so i will get it shipped off to you in a crate, so it will be coming to you with a huge shipment of maybe quads? furniture? cars? computers? it iwll be with anything, and then when it get to AUZ it will be shipped with one of your package carriers, maybe ups or dhl?

i havent no pictures
But heres what it looks like -
http://www.bob2000.com/atc350xs.jpg

I will have to remove the forks to crate it, but they are easy assemble back on,

My paypal is already, and i have a crate ready and the next shipment is on sunday to aus, before the christmas rush!

Let me know, speak soon
phil
ps. my email is - phil_shortman@hotmail.com


Hey!

You sit back and relax, all the tax etc i will pay for, i can organize the courier with UPS, all i will need is for you to pay this extra is this ok?

Let me know soon
thanks alot
phil

ps. im going to be at work from 11-7 my time which is london time, so wont be replying, but when i get home it will be a better time for you as its the afternoon in the states!


Hi again mate

Dont worry about the couriour i have a full package deal, so the end sale price is what you pay, it will be shipped with a south african import company, it will stop at south africa to re-fuel then carry on to austrailia, then DHL will take it from there, this is costing me £130 (english)

sorry in the last email i mentioned the states, i meant AUZ! durr :-)
speak later
phil

[TimSr]

No offense to actphil or psatv which I believe is also him, as he may be an upstanding person to deal with, but he's got 4 posts to his name, and one post under the other name, and all of them are in the classifieds. His email account is through hotmail. Basically what Im saying is that he popped up on here to buy and sell, and nobody knows who he is, or has dealt with him. Couple that with an overseas deal with shipping costs too good to be true, and I wouldnt touch this deal with a ten foot pole! Yes, its tempting, but if I was going to scam somebody, Id make it tempting too. Maybe he's a great guy, but how lucky do you feel, and how much do you want to risk?
The only way Id even consider a deal like this is by going through an escrow service, which is a 3rd party escrow company that basically holds the money until the deal is satisfactory. Western Union? Dont even think about it! Paypal? Well, Id see just exactly what Paypal is willing to guarentee before counting on that. Usually Paypal can freeze a persons account, and refund you from their account, IF THERE IS MONEY IN IT. If the person immediately takes the money out, before you ever report a problem, they can only give you whats in there. Good luck with law enforcement on issues if international dealings.
Again, sorry, Phil if you are legit, but I wouldnt expect anybody to send me that much money from overseas even with the fact that I have a reputation on this site.

[Quickonstep]

tell him to send it cod, that way you are covered, he HAS to pay the shipping, and all carriers do COD... just my thoughts

Jesse

[TrikerR]

thanks quickonstep...i didnt even think of that

[dogger]

actually I can give you food for though. he said it will cost teh same to ship to aus as to the usa. 130 pounds is just about $250 us dollar's if I'm not mistaken' I went myself to find out about shipping cost over sea's the lowest price I could find was $1200 us. also for shipping crate size is a issue and he said he has to remove teh fork and that's it. that isn't true because width is the biggest issuse and having rear axle and wheel's on it too big for most shipper's

[TrikerR]

but what still makes me think its legit is the fact that hes trying to sell here instead of ebay, i mean look at the difference of people who would veiw it on here compared to ebay.

[Howdy]

No offense to actphil or psatv which I believe is also him, as he may be an upstanding person to deal with, but he's got 4 posts to his name, and one post under the other name, and all of them are in the classifieds. His email account is through hotmail. Basically what Im saying is that he popped up on here to buy and sell, and nobody knows who he is, or has dealt with him. Couple that with an overseas deal with shipping costs too good to be true, and I wouldnt touch this deal with a ten foot pole! Yes, its tempting, but if I was going to scam somebody, Id make it tempting too. Maybe he's a great guy, but how lucky do you feel, and how much do you want to risk?
The only way Id even consider a deal like this is by going through an escrow service, which is a 3rd party escrow company that basically holds the money until the deal is satisfactory. Western Union? Dont even think about it! Paypal? Well, Id see just exactly what Paypal is willing to guarentee before counting on that. Usually Paypal can freeze a persons account, and refund you from their account, IF THERE IS MONEY IN IT. If the person immediately takes the money out, before you ever report a problem, they can only give you whats in there. Good luck with law enforcement on issues if international dealings.
Again, sorry, Phil if you are legit, but I wouldnt expect anybody to send me that much money from overseas even with the fact that I have a reputation on this site.

I couldn't have said it better. I would use a escrow service, and even at that I would look for one that been around for a while. Need help finding one? I am sure one of the Long time repuatable members here on the site can find you one.
Howdy

[TrikerR]

yea that would be the best option. does anybody know one

[Quickonstep]

yup, youve got a entire board full of people who would do that for you, im sure the admins would help out for a small fee, the big escrow services do cost a little bit..

Just another thought ;)

[TrikerR]

i found one that seems alrite. www.escrow.com . i really like the way that works nobody gets anything until it all clears

[greenhuman]

20 days by ship from England? Been there and done that. Thats way too quick. A direct shipment by boat from the U.S west coast to Aus east coast is 21 days and this is a far shorter distance. Sounds like he is rushing you to make a decision also. I would not touch this for anything. Let me see if I can find one here in Aus for you.

[TrikerR]

that would be sweet greenhuman