Need To See!!!!!!

[yamahaman89]

look a this
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main
i dont know what to say

[Wickedfinger]

That was on here a while ago .........

[Billy Golightly]

Yes, its all liberal BS. There is a long report on snopes about it being fake, even has pictures of "The wreckage that doesn't exist"

[toyota200x]

Yes, its all liberal BS. There is a long report on snopes about it being fake, even has pictures of "The wreckage that doesn't exist"

Open your mind. You are being tricked by the government.

[faf_racing]

Seems too me this could be very true since all focus was on the trade centers, i wondered myself why i /we never heared much about the pentagon,or "the" people killed on the plane @ the pentagon like we did the ones @ the towers and in the Pennsyvania field. I think the govnt covered this up and put all focus on the towers! cause soo many was devastated that it didnt take much too forget about D.C and watch N.Y.

[Lots_Of_Nothing]

OK. that is wierd. Just wierd. Someone please convince me it was really a plane. Because that right there is some good points.

[MTS]

OK. that is wierd. Just wierd. Someone please convince me it was really a plane. Because that right there is some good points.
you and me both :wondering

[TrikeKid]

My friends brother lives in DC and he heard a plane.

[Billy Golightly]

Open your mind. You are being tricked by the government.

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Bah, Open my mind to re-programmed by an idea that was dreamed up by a french nationalist? Haha No thanks. What about all the people who were on that flight and died? Thats all a "spoof" too I assume? Read the snopes page, and actually click on and view the external link resources and you will see it is nothing but propaganda. Everything on that page calling it a missle attack is taken out of context. For example, yes, there was sand put down over the pentagon yard in the area where the PLANE hit it. But you know why? It was so that the all the traffic coming in and out of that area (rescue vehicles, fire trucks, and then later on construction equipment) would not get stuck in the mud from the ground being so torn up. Look at the picture during the reconstruction on snopes, is it just me or is there a fair amount of equipment down there doing work?

"Recall that when the first airliner was flown into a World Trade Center tower on September 11 — before it was known that the "accident" was really part of a deliberate terrorist attack — newscasters were speculating that a small plane had accidentally flown into the side of the tower, because the visible exterior damage didn't seem as extensive as what people thought a large airliner would cause. Even though the two airplanes flown into the World Trade Center towers were travelling faster at the time of impact than the Pentagon plane was (400 MPH vs. 350 MPH), hit aluminum-and-glass buildings rather than reinforced concrete walls, and didn't dissipate much of their energy striking the ground first (as the Pentagon plane did), they still barely penetrated all the way through the WTC towers."

"The plane banked sharply and came in so low that it clipped light poles. It slammed into the side of the Pentagon at an estimated 350 miles per hour after first hitting the helipad."

If a larger plane flying 400mph flying into a smaller diameter building made of weaker materials barely breached it, then what would a smaller airplane, traveling less speed, hitting the ground first, and THEN going into a concrete and steel building made for strength, what the heck kind of damage do you expect? Do you have any idea how much force was dissipated when it hit the ground first?

"On the inside wall of the second ring of the Pentagon, a nearly circular hole, about 12-feet wide, allows light to pour into the building from an internal service alley. An aircraft engine punched the hole out on its last flight after being broken loose from its moorings on the plane. The result became a huge vent for the subsequent explosion and fire. Signs of fire and black smoke now ring the outside of the jagged-edged hole."

http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Commentary-Remembering_the_honored_dead.html


There is your so-called "Missle hole". I dont know how much anyone knows about missles, hell I'm not an expert but even I know that when a missle or a piece of ordance in general hits something it explodes on contact. It doesn't explode and then keep going and make a 12ft diameter hole outside of the blast area! Hahaha I guess it deployed a bomb from itself on its way through and then it kept on going making the 12ft hole. Hell if a missle that size exploded we would be lucky to have half a pentagon.


You guys must not have watched much news coverage after it happened. I was glued to the TV for 3 days straight after it happened. I remember the coverage of the pentagon, and the reporters talkign to people saying they saw the plane come in low and skip the ground and then hit the pentagon. I remember hearing the report that the 4th plane had went missing which was the one that crashed in PA. I have a VERY hard time understanding how anyone can even start to believe any of this nonsense, because thats EXACTLY what it is.

[Billy Golightly]

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight.
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years.
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.

PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington.
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, worked for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng





Please, contact the families of these people and explain to them their loved ones are still alive and that no plane ever flew into the pentagon. Report back here with your findings.

[TrikerR]

...ive just got three more numbers to ring and ill be finished...they all just started crying for some reason when i said that there loved one were still alive...maybe i shouldnt of started laughing and blowing my party horn.

come on guys...are you really that suspiscious of your government.

[yamahaman89]

Open your mind. You are being tricked by the government


exactly our gov. is not perfect. We have no idea how many things they can and r hidding

[TrikerR]

open yours even further...think about it logically. what would the government gain from this "stunt"(if it was one), they already take your money in the form of taxes. they control what you do by means of police and army...what do you think they could gain from staging something like this.

[Jeb]

Good job Billy!

:beer

[jinxy]

i fink the gov had a plan if a terroism act happened like that + they had 2 use it by drawing attention 2 the pentagon - drawin the attention away from the towers - also the gov could have easily made them names up or could b deceased from years ago from natural death etc etc

[yamahaman89]

yes they cold have easly made up those names

[hrc85250r]

hmmmm.....i think its all fake.

[asc180]

You all are on the right track sort of. Here is the real story from a logical point of view given all that hapened that day. The planes hit the trade center we all seen that. What you didn't see was any of the other planes on camera. The one over Pennsilvania was shot down by a fighter and crashed into the field. The story of the passengers fighting back may have been true but they did not intentionally crash that plane. That one could be covered up because no one saw it. Get enough government people down there and no evidence of being shot down. The pentagon is alittle more of a pain because of the area and camera's. They shot it down before it made it to DC but could not contain it. So they took a fighter jet or a smaller plane and crashed it into the pentagon and said it was a large 757 that in all truth was shot down somewhere out of site that they could get to and clean it up. You all have to realize that we are talking about the best Air Force in the world and the best security over DC you can not just fly two planes into buildings and have the president unprotected. They used the means of making sure that those planes did not reach DC. Besides if I am trying to hit a government building in DC it is going to be the most important one don't you think. Not a military building that is a fortress. Just my 2 cents.

[Billy Golightly]

i fink the gov had a plan if a terroism act happened like that + they had 2 use it by drawing attention 2 the pentagon - drawin the attention away from the towers - also the gov could have easily made them names up or could b deceased from years ago from natural death etc etc


Please, feel free to grab a phone book or an online people search utility and look up the families of those people I posted and give them a call, tell them that the government made them up. Hell call where the people WORKED at everyday and ask someone there. I'm sure you'll be given a real warm reception.

[Billy Golightly]

yes they cold have easly made up those names



Same to you. I swear, some of you guys. The next time I see a message posted on here about someones family member or close friend dying I'm gonna say "Thats shens, they did not die, they did not exist period, its all a conspiracy!" :rolleyes:

[OldSchoolin86]

i fink the gov had a plan if a terroism act happened like that + they had 2 use it by drawing attention 2 the pentagon - drawin the attention away from the towers - also the gov could have easily made them names up or could b deceased from years ago from natural death etc etc
Case solved! :p I don't know what your trying to say but the last part would have been figured out, don't ya think.

[TimSr]

Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN.


Barabara Olsen also happened to be the wife of US Solicitor General Ted Olsen, and was better known for her contributions on the Fox News channel, who did a tribute to her, and later interviewed Ted Olsen where he discussed his conversation with her on her cell phone AFTER the plane had been taken over.

For that matter, many family members have been documented and interviewed who were talking to loved ones on cell phones while these things were occurring, but I guess to the conspiritorialist, these people were paid to cover up the deaths of their family members by the governement too. And Im sure they trucked in all that plane wreckage at the pentagon we saw on TV right afterwards, and then trucked it back out so that those "authentic" still photos without the wreckage could appear on the internet. I hear Dan Rather is looking for some of those authetic still photos.

I dont trust the government for one minute, but if they were able to pull off a stunt like this, and kill thousands of people, right in front of the eyes of millions of others, without being discovered other than by a handful of Michael Moore worshipping people of vastly superior intelligence to the rest of the country, then I will at least take back my opinion of the government being bureaucratic, sluggish red tape filled, impractical, and inefficiant, because it would take some real genius to pull off a stunt like this without being discovered, that I dont think our government is capable of. Then there's this other question of "WHY?" Wait, let me guess, we killed over 3000 people, and caused billlions of dollars damage to our own economy because we wanted an excuse to invade Afghanistan and steal their oil for Haliburton!

Im a little curious as to how many people who people the US government planned the 911 attacks, also believe that the expeditions to the moon were also a hoax?

[TimSr]

i fink the gov had a plan if a terroism act happened like that + they had 2 use it by drawing attention 2 the pentagon - drawin the attention away from the towers - also the gov could have easily made them names up or could b deceased from years ago from natural death etc etc


"Made up" would be something like claiming to be from Oregon while operating from an IP in the UK.

[Dammit!]

"Made up" would be something like claiming to be from Oregon while operating from an IP in the UK.

ATC Phil strikes again?

http://people.clarkson.edu/~stpieraf/owned.jpg

[Billy Golightly]

ATC Phil strikes again?



Indeed... :eek:

[Lomax]

DIdnt the plane in Pennsilvania go down last?? I am thinking that it did, If thats the case the pentagon had already been hit, meaning meaning that it couldnt have been one of our fighter jets or a missle from one of them. I was thinking that it was last because they grounded all planes everywhere after the trade centers and the pentagon but that one remained in the air. Ohwell I could be wrong, either way I still dont think that the goverment is trying to cover anything up in this matter. My .02

[Lots_Of_Nothing]

Woah Billy, hammered that down.

When the whole 9/11 thing happened, I just heard the news, and saw the planes hitting the towers, and left it at that. Never bothered to think of it. I never really paid much attention to the Pentagon hit because most the coverage was about the towers. Then this video came up, and it makes you think, And due to the fact I never paid much attention about it then, I really didnt know. Thanks for clearing that up Bill. Makes me feel a bit better. (or else they got to you much better then they got to me :p ).

[Billy Golightly]

Haha this is one thing I will debate on until my death. I dont think any sane person can say that a plane did not fly into the pentagon when provided with a few facts and using a little reasoning.

[faf_racing]

The PA plane went down cause pilots were killed for not turning around!! terrorists took it over and passengers fought them till it crashed!! It was NOT shot down by fighter jets. As far as the pentagon AFTER research of this whole thread flight 77 hit it.. government has no reason too cover this up or kill military personel so basically( they are not going too shoot 1 plane down too crash a smaller 1 in it) thats absurd. They said themselves(govnt) didnt dispatch planes till after the fact.

[jakey]

All of this is a slap in the face of those who died, their families, the 9/11 rescue teams, fire departments, police departments, all soldiers who are currently active duty, our government, our country, my father, etc, etc, etc.

And about the "theory" of shooting down a plane to crash a smaller one in to the PENTAGON that is fricking INSANE have any of you so called "experts" ever even seen the pentagon? There are thousands of people around...its D.C.!!!!!!!! Dont you think somebody would go notice a fighter jet flying into the pentagon? I hate when people think that they are smarter then every person who runs our country...that their idea is best...do you think you G.E.D. makes you the more qualified then the best men in their field to make these decisions?

[350xsx]

ok, they obviously didnt make it up.....like was already stated why would they cause millions of dollars in damage to themselves, and cause our own peoples deaths, on pourpose, and even if they did make it up wich is highly doubted, theres no way to prove it, that video said that a boeing 757 couldnt make a hole like that....did they ever try it themselves, has it ever happened before?No, so theres no reason to believe there nonsense video, and your kinda forced to believe it anyway, cause theres no way for you to change it and prove there wrong and it was set up, whos gunna believe a blue collared John Doe from a small town with no experience in this stuff.....definately not arocket scientist or someone on that level who run whatever other people below them think because they think theyre so smart, they must be right......jus thinkin out loud
Later,
Kyle

[jakey]

350xsx...now we're thinking the same

but the one thing i think all of you are forgetting is THE WITNESSES!!!!!!! Flipping idiots...gosh...

[350xsx]

350xsx...now we're thinking the same

but the one thing i think all of you are forgetting is THE WITNESSES!!!!!!! Flipping idiots...gosh...

haha, when i was typing i meant to include that, great minds think alike :beer , do you guys think that all of the witnesses mistook a 12 seater plane or a missile for a gargantuous(however you spell it) plane such as the Boeing 757 wich they said they saw?