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RHINO
11-25-2005, 01:29 PM
I hope you can help me. I want to bring an 86 ATC 250R into Canada from the US. I've heard that I won't be able to get it accross the border and into Canada because of some laws..Can anyone please tell me whether or not there's any truth to this? I really want this trike and I'd hate for the idea to be squashed by Canada Customs.:wondering

bigredhead
11-25-2005, 01:33 PM
Look in the yellow pages for " Customs " and give them a call.. Peace Bridge Brokers is the one used by purolator courier..

Even their website might have an e-mail " Contact Us " type thing..

With a bill of sale, and be prepared to pay duties and brokerage.. i'm sure there must be a way.

Call customs directly.

Blown 331
11-25-2005, 01:33 PM
I've heard that you will have to take it apart then bring it across the boarder in peices. I don't know if there is any truth to that but that is what I have heard.

RHINO
11-25-2005, 01:36 PM
I also thought about that.. If they're going to hassle me,I'd just bring it over as parts.. Would I still have to pay duty on it then?

And thanks for the lightning fast replies.

Kintore
11-25-2005, 01:40 PM
When I went to Trikefest with my dad, we had to go across border. They asked us what we had and we told them what it was and where we were going and they let us pass no issues. It was around 2 am. Now dont go by me and what I said, but my experience is that they werent to hard on us by any means. They didnt even check what was in the trailer!

Oh for you question, call up customs and ask them what you need.

Banage
11-25-2005, 02:04 PM
wate till the river is frozen and hit the gas. naa i know people that go 4 wheeling accross the border all the time. Make sure you can prove it is yours and there shouldent be a problem. Unless there is a law against 3 wheelers

sandpuppi101
11-25-2005, 03:52 PM
As far as snowmobiling,I have went up past the Soo Locks into Ontario and never had an issue,but that is with sleds, just bring a old or new ontario orv or trail permit and put it on the trike when you pass back thru! Thats what I would do,but thats me! I would'nt see a problem even since you are a Canadian.

RHINO
11-25-2005, 07:19 PM
Ok I got it sorted out. I called Canada Customs and they said as long as it's 15 years or older I can bring it into Canada. It's an 86 so I'm good to go. I just have to bring it in and pay the duty when I get to the border. I'm pumped about having another trike. It's been awhile.

Thanks guys.

Kintore
11-25-2005, 08:56 PM
How much will duty be on that? You got me thinking now lol

Mobular
11-25-2005, 08:58 PM
There is no duty applicable to ATCs as a whole or parts, just the applicable PST and GST taxes.

This topic has come up before. My experiences and research has led me to this:
As someone who does live near the border, and regularly imports parts from the US, I can offer some tips.
-Firstly, do not attempt to bring anything across illegally, unless you are willing to surrender your vehicle(s) if you are caught.
-Play it safe and declare the purchases.
-Don't try to use the "gift" angle. Free, or not, will be taxed as to what they believe the inherent value to be.
-Have a detailed sales slip, with the sellers name and address.
-There is no duty applicable to ATCs, but parts/whole machines are taxable.
-No trike manufactured after 1987 is importable.
At each Canadian Customs crossing there is a large book which will supply you with article numbers pertaining to dutys/taxes for most every concievable item ever. The article # for a whole ATC - 50 - 250cc is 8711.20.00-10. The # for an ATC 251- 500cc is 8711.30.00-10. The # for parts is 8714.19.00. These numbers are specifically for all-terrain-cycles(their wording). Make sure these numbers are the ones used at the time of documentation. I have had officers try to document stuff as ATV goods, not ATC. Some ATV goods are dutiable. You may have to point out the difference to the officers between a quad and ATC (I have many times...some people just don't get it). There is one section that they may try to apply a tarriff, and that is for a vehicle having less than 6 wheels, powered by agas engine made for 1 passenger. This has a duty of 6.1%. Use the allterraincycle numbers and aviod the extra tarriffs.

A downloadable PDF with the Canadian Customs details is here:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/general/p...004/ch87ne.pdf

If you have anyother questions, just ask!
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88 Turbo Coupe
11-25-2005, 09:08 PM
Ok I got it sorted out. I called Canada Customs and they said as long as it's 15 years or older I can bring it into Canada. It's an 86 so I'm good to go. I just have to bring it in and pay the duty when I get to the border. I'm pumped about having another trike. It's been awhile.

Thanks guys.

I got alot of parts shipped to me from Canada with no duty tax. I think you better make sure that the customs officer at the boarder is on the same wave length as "Canada Customs" you called. How does one determine the "duty taxxxxxxxxxx on a 86? Let me know.

RHINO
11-25-2005, 09:34 PM
By "Duty" I just meant the taxes.. So GST and PST I guess..Sorry for the confusion.

Mobular..Great info man. Thanks.

Yamahauler
11-25-2005, 11:44 PM
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=34130

I had a problem with bringing them over. They have to be held there for 3 days to make sure no one reports them stolen.
You just have to pay the taxes on them at the border.

Make sure you get a bill of sale, title would be the best, but you dont very often get one with a trike.

Dont try to run it across the border either, you wouldnt be able to register it in Canada that way. And if you get caught you pretty screwed.

fordnut79@hotma
04-12-2015, 06:02 PM
Anybody know if the laws have changed since the above 2005 posts. I hear its really difficult to get one across now. Anybody have anything to add.
Tks

86 350x
04-12-2015, 06:17 PM
Pain in the ass, need title to make it simple, quite often they want title mailed to them 3 days in advance some boarder crossings will let you fax others need mailed copy "power trip thing" if you can't get title I think you need a noterized bill of sale from the state saying it is clear of any leans or not stolen

MattDragontamer
04-12-2015, 06:59 PM
I will try to make this simple of you.

1. Call the Canadian border office where you will be crossing.
Ask them about what to expect when crossing.
You should expect to pay GST on the value you payed for you machine.

2.You WILL NEED your bill of sale. Official state vehicle sale slip is prefered.
You may be asked for proof of registration for the state it was in. Depends if they want it, but
the bill of sale should be enough. DO NOT ACCEPT HAND WRITTEN BILL OF SALE, GET AN OFFICIAL VEHICLE SALE SLIP. For Ontario, you require proof of registration where it was before and a brief history of ownership. In addition, if you cannot get a registration or it was in a state or province that did not require it to be registered. You can request to sign off on the paperwork that you fill out the info the best you can, and that you will forfit the machine if the registrar should find that it has been reported stolen. So yea, get as much into on the machine before purchase.

3. Before you cross, stop in the Canadian office. (The office is the building BEFORE the gates.) Get all the info, decleration sheets and anything info they give you on what you need to do in writing. When driving over to the state side , state your reason when crossing into the states is to buy an atv and where.
When you return, you will most likely have to stop over on state side to fill out a decleration form. Then when you get to the Canadian gates, declare your purchases, show you papers (decleration and bill of sale) and expect to be asked to pull over for a vehicle seach and confirmation of the paperwork. This is when official state of origin bill of sales come in handy.
They usually have all the required info on them.

4. Make sure you don't have anything into the vehicle that you don't need. So clean it up.

Hope this helps.