+1 83R Miltech swingarm - 88-89R swinger pics added

[OldSchoolin86]

Thought some of you might like to see some swinger pics. This is a naked +1 83R swingarm. It's a quad tube, truss style constucted with 4130 chromoly and TIG welded. Even the hounting tabs are 4130. This is an OEM style made to use all stock parts.

http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/83r/front.jpg
http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/83r/rear.jpg
http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/83r/belly.jpg
http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/83r/weld.jpg

[Blown 331]

That is totally sweet! I need to buy one of those someday, not sure for which bike though.

[trikezilla]

AWESOME OS86!

That may be the ticket to finishing my "oldschool" 83R! The craftsmanship btw look excellent

[Billy Golightly]

Lookin Good Frank, real good. You got a TIG and a pipe notcher now too? Nice :cool:

[Meat-BoX]

Finally someone building goodies for Trikes. I like the look of the swinger and the welds look good. If I may ask, are you selling alot of Swingers for Trikes and are you on E-Bay? I want you to do good as we need guys like you for us 3 wheeler owners.:beer

Another Question a guy here wanted $400 to polish my Cal-Fab:eek: do you polish and if so what should it cost? For that Much I could of Bought that New Champion swinger and sold my Cal-Fab.

[OldSchoolin86]

Thanks a lot guys!

The welds are great but I have to be honest, I hire that part out to a specialist. I haven't bought the TIG yet Billy but it's on the list for someday. Right now I'm having too much fun designing and fabricating stuff.

Meat-Box,
I've done a couple but I'm no mass producer. I don't polish and sorry, no ebay auctions. Everything is pre-order for now. I will probably bring a couple personal machines with them mounted on to TF06 but besides that and the website I'm not super active in advertising.

PM me if you have anymore questions, I’d be happy to answer them. Thanks for the compliments.

[Billy Golightly]

Hey Frank, what kind of Jig setup do you have for holding the pieces together while its being welded to keep everything straight and in alignment? I need to make one for my tripple clamps and I need some ideas...

[OldSchoolin86]

Hey Frank, what kind of Jig setup do you have for holding the pieces together while its being welded to keep everything straight and in alignment? I need to make one for my tripple clamps and I need some ideas...
PM sent ;)

[TeamGeek6]

That aint gonna break! No heat distortion either, the welder knows his stuff.

[3leggeddog]

looks nice frank.man one of those would be super trick for a 86r,with a elka long travel rear shock.maybe +2 over stock?now that would be bad arse;)

[edog]

Why are they tubuler?Why not square?

[Yamahauler]

Have you made one up for a Tri-Z yet, I'm still really interested in the updated one, I've already started pricing out 400ex rear ends.

Cory

[2XTREME]

Sorry to resurect this post, but HELL YEH.This must be what I saw on that tecate I was just asking about in the other thread.I dig it.Oldschoolin,How much for a Plus 2 for a Z?I would have you leave out the lower pivot hole for the carrier because my new banshee carrier won't fit the stock location.I would have you do the upper adjustment slot though.
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[2XTREME]

Scratch my question.I found your link to the web site.
Sorry,
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[Yamahauler]

You got 2 guys interested in a plus 2 for a Tri-Z, OS86
I was wanting one too, except the updated one for the 400ex rear end.
I'm going to be bidding on some 400ex rims soon.

[2XTREME]

You got 2 guys interested in a plus 2 for a Tri-Z, OS86
I was wanting one too, except the updated one for the 400ex rear end.
I'm going to be bidding on some 400ex rims soon.
Yamahauler,
Does everything line up fine if you use the 400ex carrier.Like the sprocket and brake rotor,Or do you have to use all of the 400ex rear end?
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[OldSchoolin86]

looks nice frank.man one of those would be super trick for a 86r,with a elka long travel rear shock.maybe +2 over stock?now that would be bad arse;)
Indeed it would! ;)


Why are they tubuler?Why not square?
Mostly I enjoy the quad tube look. Square is easy, I guess I was just looking to do something not as common.


Have you made one up for a Tri-Z yet, I'm still really interested in the updated one, I've already started pricing out 400ex rear ends.

Cory
Sorry, I haven't had an order for one yet but it sounds like a +2 "updated" might be worth making just to show.


Yamahauler,
Does everything line up fine if you use the 400ex carrier.Like the sprocket and brake rotor,Or do you have to use all of the 400ex rear end?
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For the "updated" swinger you need everything from either a 400ex or 250r; carrier, hubs, axle.

[edog]

Looks dam good.

[2XTREME]

Oldschoolin,
Hey how much would it be for a quad tube +2 for the Z stock carrier.I would end up having you leave the lower carrier mounting hole not drilled,But do the upper slotted adjustment hole?I have that banshee carrier so I would need to drill the lower hole where it needs to be.
Thanks,
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[Billy Golightly]

Lets try not to turn this into a classified guys, if you have a question on price or any specific details on an order please PM him instead :).

[ATCWRENCH]

2XTREME, his web page has all of his prices list for everything you guys are asking about. just go to te bottom of his sig and click on his web page.

[2XTREME]

I went there and his page didn't show the quad tube.Sorry Guys!!!!!! I will PM him.:wondering
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[Yamahauler]

How much does that swinger weigh?
what's the weight of a stock? 20-25lbs?

[ATCWRENCH]

the stock swingarm doesnt weigh quit that much. it oly weighs about 13-17lbs. the factory ones where aluminum. at least thats what all the articles say.

[2XTREME]

My stock swinger is steel.I wish it were aluminum,Then I could polish it also.
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[OldSchoolin86]

Lets try not to turn this into a classified guys, if you have a question on price or any specific details on an order please PM him instead :).
I agree.

I'll be more then happy to answer any questions you guys have sales related but they can't be here. PM or email http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/offroad/3ww/thumb.gif

[2XTREME]

Is this one of your swingers????
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[Meat-BoX]

There was just a brand new Champion+2 onE-bay I think Tri-Z tunes got it. That swinger is rare. Check out Ange's Red TecATE. His is so sexy its on the Tecate Thread that just came up this week.

[diggerzmound]

I dunno looks like a little more heat then necessary was used, may have displaced too many carbon molecules causing a brittle weld area....

[max]

wont this lower the bike? the 1plus looks like the rear dog bone mount is moved back 1 in. everything will sit lower.

[diggerzmound]

But +1 will also put your carrier out 1" too and following an angled path downhill, that would also raise the bike, resulting in equality of loss gain

[max]

which is also 1in further. were the top mount for the shock doesnt move. which would mean that shock would stretch an inch, resulting in a lowering affect. im no rocket scientist. just, in my head this is how i see it.

would like a professional answer to this

[diggerzmound]

Done correctly you will need an aftermarket shock that is designed for a lengthened swingarm. Not only will it change the ride height but longer swingarms have more leverage on the shock.

Long Pointed Cylidrical Object With Fins Engineer :lol:

[200xcellent]

which is also 1in further. were the top mount for the shock doesnt move. which would mean that shock would stretch an inch, resulting in a lowering affect. im no rocket scientist. just, in my head this is how i see it.

would like a professional answer to this

I think im picturing it the same as you max. To me, the more horizontal the shock gets the lower the back end would get.

[2XTREME]

The shock mounts in the exact same location.Although it is a +1 Or +2 he make the mount for the shock in the same place as if it were stock.You are correct on the leverage though.The longer the swing arm the more leverage and pressure is on the shock.This is how I picture it in my head anyway.Hell I may be wrong.
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[OldSchoolin86]

The shock mounts in the exact same location.Although it is a +1 Or +2 he make the mount for the shock in the same place as if it were stock.You are correct on the leverage though.The longer the swing arm the more leverage and pressure is on the shock.This is how I picture it in my head anyway.Hell I may be wrong.
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Yup^^^

The mount is not +1, just the carrier housing.


I dunno looks like a little more heat then necessary was used, may have displaced too many carbon molecules causing a brittle weld area....


Not a chance, that weld is top notch.;) I think the enlarged pic is making the pattern look bigger then it is to you.

[Blown 331]

Can you explain the difference between the updated swing arm and drag style? I was looking on your website. It probably won't be too soon, I want to get my new 450 & get the 250R running first, but I would like a little longer swing arm on my 350X. Not for excess power but for hill climbing. I really have to get up over the gas tank on some big hills.

[OldSchoolin86]

Can you explain the difference between the updated swing arm and drag style? I was looking on your website. It probably won't be too soon, I want to get my new 450 & get the 250R running first, but I would like a little longer swing arm on my 350X. Not for excess power but for hill climbing. I really have to get up over the gas tank on some big hills.
I'd go with OEM or Updated for that. Updated simply means that it takes either a 250r or 400ex carrier and axle. The Drag style are lighter and have a few different carrier housing options.

[2XTREME]

Summer '06 I will own one-OOHHH YES I WILL OWN ONE!!! I like riding on all sorts of terrain,Ice racing,Maybe flat track,Not much dragging.What do you recommend +1 or +2.I like the sharper steering,but it would be nice for climbing for the front end to stay down a little more.I really don't want to loose to much of the tightness.I think maybe +1 would be enough for me.What do you think Frank?
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[OldSchoolin86]

Summer '06 I will own one-OOHHH YES I WILL OWN ONE!!! I like riding on all sorts of terrain,Ice racing,Maybe flat track,Not much dragging.What do you recommend +1 or +2.I like the sharper steering,but it would be nice for climbing for the front end to stay down a little more.I really don't want to loose to much of the tightness.I think maybe +1 would be enough for me.What do you think Frank?
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I think for a Z I'd go +1 on my own machine. It's really a matter of personal riding style and choice.

[3leggeddog]

hey frank,post up those sweet pics. of that new top secret,super siick swinger you built for that good buddy of your,lol.

[OldSchoolin86]

hey frank,post up those sweet pics. of that new top secret,super siick swinger you built for that good buddy of your,lol.
Will do, just let me get some clear pics. I'll get them up tomorrow for my good buddy, lol. ;)

[3leggeddog]

this is my first try to post some pics.,i hope the links work.check out my new swinger from milltech.

[diggerzmound]

Yup^^^

The mount is not +1, just the carrier housing.




Not a chance, that weld is top notch.;) I think the enlarged pic is making the pattern look bigger then it is to you.

I dunno, I think I would hand solder all of them, I would recommend a nickel rod for extra strength...

I hope you're customer service staff has a good disposition and is ready for action..
;)

[OldSchoolin86]

this is my first try to post some pics.,i hope the links work.check out my new swinger from milltech.
That is one SEXY swinger there! We're going to need some pics when you put some color to it.

[OldSchoolin86]

I dunno, I think I would hand solder all of them, I would recommend a nickel rod for extra strength...

I hope you're customer service staff has a good diposition and is ready for action..
;)LMAO, :banned:

[3leggeddog]

i will defintly get pics up of it on the bike.looks super siick too me.

as far as the strength of the welds,we will find out this summer when the outdoor mx season comes around.i plan on jumping the sheet outta this thing and don't want to end up like virgils' 426.i am sure they will hold look good to me but i'm no expert.i guess some people can just look at a weld and know if it will break or not,no thats some skill there:rolleyes:

thanks for the swinger frank.hope fully it will let me put all that honda power to the ground!!!!!!!!1

[200xcellent]

Hey os86, is that quad tube a lot stronger than conventional or is it just trick looking?

[OldSchoolin86]

Hey os86, is that quad tube a lot stronger than conventional or is it just trick looking?
I wouldn't say there is a great advange, it's just more of a style I find appealing.

[OldSchoolin86]

This is an 88/89R +2" OEM clearanced for an 85/85R.

http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/88r/swinger3.jpg
http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/88r/swinger4.jpg
http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/88r/swinger6.jpg
http://miltechsolutions.tripod.com/mtr/gifs/88r/swinger7.jpg

[3leggeddog]

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