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bigred1
01-08-2006, 02:59 PM
is the stator assembly just for the electric start or is it needed to run my 200m period. I am not sure of its purpose and this is my second assy. that has broken with very little ride time. any help is appreciated thank you.
Somekindofjerk
01-08-2006, 03:17 PM
The stator charges your battery and your ingnition coil. Whithout it your out of comission. The small black coil charges your ignition coil, providing your with spark and the others are your charging coil to recharge your battery. Without the stator you probably wont have spark and youll kill your battery quickly trying to start it.
bigred1
01-08-2006, 03:24 PM
thanks for the input Skj, maybe third time will be a charm, anyone let me know if you have this part thanks.
IrvSLedman
01-08-2006, 03:28 PM
If you cant find some one who does, try Dennis kirk or Hyper Parts. com stators can be a real *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*, me and swage (somekindofjerk) have had plenty of problems with em' lol.
bigred1
01-08-2006, 06:31 PM
checked them both out no luck, thanks though.
TeamGeek6
01-08-2006, 06:41 PM
If you cant find one, i might be able to rewind the old one. Ive rewound other stators.
"Two that have broken" sounds funny. Id question whether the stator is really bad or not.
bigred1
01-08-2006, 06:47 PM
the mount itself is broken
IrvSLedman
01-08-2006, 06:49 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i thought you were having problems with the electronics... yeah youd have to get that off another 200m, or some other Trike with electric start..
IrvSLedman
01-08-2006, 06:50 PM
the Plate i mean. if the coil parts are still good
bigred1
01-08-2006, 06:56 PM
any idea what could cause this I did not think I was riding to hard did some wheelies and a little two wheel riding but when it locked up I was driving flat?
IrvSLedman
01-08-2006, 07:33 PM
ohh wait, it locked up? so it wont pull over even, with the broken play out? how long of wheelies were you riding, iv actually heard of people frying motors doing that(no oil cuz of gravity).
bigred1
01-08-2006, 08:14 PM
when I took off the recoil and then stator housing I noticed the cracks so I put an old (empty) housing on from the last stator that broke (due to a screw getting loose) and was able to pull the cord which means engine is not locked so I think it is the cracked plate causing the bind I don't know what else it could be??? Oh as for riding wheelies lol I'm no (Evil Kinevil) we're talking just little wheeliepops maybe 2 or 3 feet
Somekindofjerk
01-08-2006, 08:21 PM
PM Howdy, he would be the guy for parts like these. He prabably has the whole assembly for it im sure.
IrvSLedman
01-08-2006, 09:04 PM
Oh then yeah, your probably right, and i would try for howdy, he for somereason has all the 3 wheeler parts. ever. lol at least it aint seized.
KZXT650
01-10-2006, 09:19 PM
check the magnets and the inside of the flywheel the goes over your stator, if your breaking the plates there has to be a reason its happening , or so i would think, stator plates dont just break, something has to break them, look for any sign of an impact that may have caused it.
Howdy
01-10-2006, 09:23 PM
bigred1, Can you post some Bigger pictures? Try making them as big as possible. The small pictures don't help me any.
Howdy
bigred1
01-10-2006, 09:31 PM
can any one tell me how to post a pic as thumbnail size and when you click on it gets bigger in new window, I've tried resize and compress but what I upload stays the same size even though it says click for larger image.thanks
Howdy
01-10-2006, 09:41 PM
can any one tell me how to post a pic as thumbnail size and when you click on it gets bigger in new window, I've tried resize and compress but what I upload stays the same size even though it says click for larger image.thanks
If you have the pictures saved on your computer full sized try to upload them like they are. If it shows them as being too big then try to make them just alittle smaller and save. Then try uploading them again. Once you figure out the aprox size you can resize the others and upload them. ;)
The forums program makes the thumbnail views, you don't need to make them that small.
Howdy
bigred1
01-10-2006, 10:43 PM
lets see if this works
Unclediezel
01-10-2006, 11:12 PM
Does the key on your crankshaft match the slot size----Is the crank bolt loose after it breaks---???
That looks like stress cracking from excessive vibration.
KZXT650
01-10-2006, 11:49 PM
I have to agree with unclediezel about it looking like stress fatige. i've worked as a welder / machinist for 15 yrs and have seen things break in all sorts of ways. something is causing it you need to find it and fix it otherwise it'll keep happening.
I wish i was more familiar with your machine it would give me more insight on what is happening and help me help you. how much end play is there in your crank? whats on the other end of the crank if any thing? could a bearing going south maybe be at fault? Theres alot of variables to look at , It could even be a combination of several things. I'll check back tomarrow night to see if you found anything and maybe I'll think of something else that might help too by then.
bigred1
01-10-2006, 11:58 PM
just went out to look at it I don't have rotor/fly wheel off right now but I gave it a wiggle it seems nice and tight no movement or slop, tomarrow I will try to get a few more pics if it still light out when I get home from work. if it was excess vibration shouldn't I have been able to fill it while riding?
Unclediezel
01-11-2006, 12:01 AM
Not always------
Any "CARNAGE "on the coils? Or the magnets?
Howdy
01-11-2006, 10:56 AM
Did you have the flywheel bolt removed when you tried to remove the side cover ( if you are the one that removed it )? I ask this because I have seen this type of damge before. To me it looks like someone tried to pry the cover off without the flywheel bolt removed. This is a BIG NO, NO.
The confimation of this can be found in Unclediezel's last reply here. Is there any damage to the flywheel or the coils themselves?
My questions:
Did the motor still run?
Why was the side case removed?
I ask the last 2 questions because if the coils are good you should only need the stator plate. I think I actually have a good bare stator plate. If I do I would sell it for $8.50 SHIPPED!
Howdy
bigred1
01-12-2006, 11:06 PM
I was on level ground in third, rpms not that high, when it felt and sounded like engine met unusual resistance and rear wheels stopped turning and engine died at relatively the same time. I tryed electric start sounded rough barely could turn engine over so I tryed recoil pulled twice both times real stiff then not at all. Not knowing what it could be I decided to open it up. I pulled recoil housing off removed flywheel bolt then took off stator housingnothing seemed tight but when inspected I noticed the cracks in plate I have not noticed anything else unusal no loose parts or debris other tan little tiny part of plate that broke off.
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