My 1986 350x thread (latest pics on page 3)

[Dammit!]

Saved from the jaws of oblivion. :w00t:

It's ugly but it seems solid. Motor needs rebuilt although I don't know the extent of it yet. Probably just a top end rebuild. Plastics and gas tank are pretty trashed but I haven't spotted any cracks in the frame or main engine cases yet. Check out the rear skid plate. I'm assuming it's homemade because I've never seen one like it.

I really gotta stop bringing home strays. I'm fighting the temptation to buy my friends 250R that I have posted in the classifieds for him right now. SOMEBODY STOP ME! :Bounce

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[Dammit!]

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[crd00]

Is that the one you told me you were buying? Thats in really good shape but it needs a bit of work but no doubt worth the money you paid for it;) . Is there anyway you would sell the whole headlight? :naughty: lol

[mean350]

how much you pay for her? looks pretty solid. i like the skidplate lol

[mean350]

that rear brake system looks like an 85

[Dammit!]

Is that the one you told me you were buying? Thats in really good shape but it needs a bit of work but no doubt worth the money you paid for it;) . Is there anyway you would sell the whole headlight? :naughty: lol

Yeah that's the one. Definitely needs some TLC. It's a nice base for me to start from but it's gonna take forever for me to get to it. The Z is definitely getting done before this one and my 200x will probably be well underway before I even start on the 350.


how much you pay for her? looks pretty solid. i like the skidplate lol

$500. Not bad I guess but more than I've ever paid for a non-running trike before. Edit: actually my Z didn't run when I got it either and I paid $700 for that.


that rear brake system looks like an 85

It might be. This is my first 350x so I'm not extremely familiar with the subtle differences between the years. Can anyone else confirm or deny that for me?

[mean350]

what does the frame sticker say on it? could be an 85 with 86 plastic or an 86 with 85 swinger.

[Dammit!]

what does the frame sticker say on it?

Frame says 1986.

[hancadam]

Looks like a great deal to me. Congrats!!!!

[Billy Golightly]

I really gotta stop bringing home strays. I'm fighting the temptation to buy my friends 250R that I have posted in the classifieds for him right now. SOMEBODY STOP ME! :Bounce

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We are the Borg. Resistance as you know it is over. Resistance is futile.Strength is irrelevant. Negotiation is irrelevant. Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You will be assimilated. You must comply.


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[Dammit!]

We are the Borg. Resistance as you know it is over. Resistance is futile.Strength is irrelevant. Negotiation is irrelevant. Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You will be assimilated. You must comply.


:lol:

Alright. You immediately got me thinking of building a Borg themed trike. Made from pieces of different trikes. All black and gray. With random LED lights on it.

[chris200x]

I think you should get that air cooler as well. Hell, It's already in the garage. :naughty:

[200xman]

Looks like it's all 86 except for the rear brakes and swingarm. Do a search on the differences between years here on the boards. I think there are about 30-40 small differences between the years.

[hondaracer11]

Thats a great find Id have to say its an 86 maby the old owner put 85 parts on it.

[toyota200x]

Looks like a great deal to me. Congrats!!!!

I like the colors a lot.

[nouseforaname90]

Definately an '85 brake setup and swinger. The reason you can tell is because the '86 swinger is more reinforced than the '85 and the '85 brake system uses that black bracket and aluminum caliper slider (I think thats what its called....)

[Dammit!]

I'm thinking this guy might have been getting played by his mechanic. I don't see any evidence that the cylinder was removed to inspect the top end. The head is loose, but big deal. Looks like he popped the head off and said "you need a rebuild, that'll be another $700" (reason #1 to learn to do your own repairs kids!). I popped the head off and things look ok to me there at least. The cam looks funny in the pics but the surface is actually fine. I popped the spark plug in and it had good compression with the plug just being finger tight. Hmmm...

The guy called me to say he found some of the parts it's missing. Some bolts and a red bracket (the missing upper motor mount). Maybe I'll just bolt it together with a new head gasket when I get the rest of the stuff and see if she fires. He said it ran good and fast before he took it to the shop (lol).

Anybody see anything missing and/or out of place? Do all 350x's have dual cam chains like that?

[Dammit!]

Question: do you have to take the engine out of the frame to do a top end rebuild on these things?

[DeePa]

quote the manual

the engine must be removed to service the cylinder and piston

the cam/cylinder head/valves can be done in frame, but its probably easier to take it out

mike

[Dammit!]

the engine must be removed to service the cylinder and piston


mike

Damn it.

:lol:

[Erics350x]

yea you have to remove the engine.

[NOS_350X]

It is possible to get the head off with the engine in the frame, ive done it. I will never do it again it is easyer to remove the whole dang thing.

[Dammit!]

Update 6/4/06

I just put it back together as best I could without knowing where half the bolts go, missing a couple and a couple being in unusable condition.

Re-cap of this things story.

Supposedly the guy took it to the shop for a new carb. Mechanic installed new carb, charged him for it, THEN said "oh yeah, I inspected the motor and needs rebuilt. That'll run another $700." To which the guy said no way and it's sat with the rocker cover off ever since. That was 2 years ago.

After taking a good look at it, I suspected the guy was getting completely lied to by this mechanic. I WAS RIGHT! HAHAHA! I just threw it back together quick and sloppy to see if it would start and it started on the third kick with no choke! No blue smoke coming from the exhaust. Good power. Took it just down the street and back and it wheelied the first three gears.

IT PAYS TO DO YOU OWN MECHANICAL WORK! Never trust a shop unless the owner is your brother (and even then, do your research).

The thing leaks like a fountain. Somewhere in the bottom end is leaking pretty good. Not sure where that's coming from but I think it might just be the clutch cover. The petcock leaks like crazy. That oil line that bolts to the rocker cover is leaking pretty good right there. Not sure why. Little bit coming from the rocker cover but I didn't put any sealer or anything on it. I think there's one or two stripped threads in the head. Either that or I was trying to use the wrong bolt which is very possible. :lol:

I'm feeling pretty good about the purchase now. I can make a rider out of it with minimal expense (but we all know I won't stop there). :lol:

[Dammit!]

Can anyone list EVERYTHING I would need to convert it back to a 1986 style swingarm? I noticed today that the front skid plate mount on it is wasted so maybe I'll go back to a 1986 type when I swap it out.

[erectordale]

Awesome deal you got there glad it was better than you thought

[AZ250R]

Sorry I don't have any 350X info for ya, but DAMN I gotta come check out your trike managery sometime! :naughty:

[Dammit!]

I gotta come check out your trike managery sometime! :naughty:

It's not very organized actually. :lol:

One of these is going away (the air fooler). I just got a bunch of shelves which is going to help a ton. Now I have to find room for a huge 80 gallon air compressor, the sand blaster and an oven.

NO MORE TRIKES FOR A WHILE! Well unless I find a good deal on something... :w00t:

[nouseforaname90]

Can anyone list EVERYTHING I would need to convert it back to a 1986 style swingarm? I noticed today that the front skid plate mount on it is wasted so maybe I'll go back to a 1986 type when I swap it out.

I think all you would need is the '86 swinger and '86 brake setup (caliper, slider, etc.). I was able to put an '86 swingarm on my '85 350X easily.. I was even able to use the '85 brake setup thanks to a little welding by dirtface. I used an '86 shock, '86 swinger, '85 axle, '85 brakes, and '85 bearing carrier.. so it seems that everything on the rear of the X other than the brake setup is interchangeable between the '85 and '86 models.

[350x'inNY]

Looks like it's all 86 except for the rear brakes and swingarm. Do a search on the differences between years here on the boards. I think there are about 30-40 small differences between the years.


I typed up all I could think of for Sandpuppi like a week or 2 ago.... can't remember the total I came up with, but it was in that ball-park.

Bruce "Hondaline" Hartman

[ATC4ever!]

Dammit! It looks like your in the Phoenix area, Got a few excellent pieces for a 85'250R, 86'350X. Seems like when I'm riding in the valley I'm the only one on 3 wheels. Maybe one day when I can catch up with techology I'll post pictures of my bike's: 86'ATC250R, 86'ATC350X, both mint, 84'250R on it's way to being mint and another complete 86'250R in pieces, it's all there, Don't know what I want to do with it.

[ATC4ever!]

Dammit! It looks like your in the Phoenix area, Got a few excellent pieces for a 85'250R, 86'350X. Seems like when I'm riding in the valley I'm the only one on 3 wheels. Maybe one day when I can catch up with techology I'll post pictures of my bike's: 86'ATC250R, 86'ATC350X, both mint, 84'250R on it's way to being mint and another complete 86'250R in pieces, it's all there, Don't know what I want to do with it.

[Dammit!]

I need a cheap grab bar for the 350x. PM me if you have one.

[Dammit!]

Got my new plastics today courtesy of Infinity Cycle Supply (aka, rangerover or eastcoastatvllc here on the boards). Still need to get a new headlight shell and a clarke plastic tank for it. Probably going to pull the motor out soon so I can check the top end out. Starts right up now but smokes a bit and leaks like crazy. I'm thinking new rings, valve guides and gaskets. Hopefully the piston and bore are still usable.

By the way, if anybody wants my old plastics, you can have them for the cost of shipping. They're beat pretty bad but I suppose they're better than nothing. I'm just going to throw them in the trash if there's no takers.

[theonlyjosh]

looks pretty solid i probably would have bought it, but just because i really wannaa restore a 350x lol... nice find .

[breastman569]

is that tank thats on there plastic or metal and is that the only dent on the side?

[Dammit!]

It's metal. It has one big dent on the left side and a couple little dings on the right. The shroud mounts are slightly bent too.

[breastman569]

you might be able to fix it up for and paint it because it doesnt look all that bad from the pics. i turned mine from this...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/breastman569/Three%20Wheelers/100_1464.jpg
to this...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/breastman569/Three%20Wheelers/PICT0431.jpg
all with some sanding and bondo for the dents. hell if you get it looking good with the bondo i can spay it for you for next to nothing all i would need is the hardner for the paint.

[Somekindofjerk]

I would take the scoops, the rest looks beat to nothing

[Dammit!]

hell if you get it looking good with the bondo i can spay it for you for next to nothing all i would need is the hardner for the paint.

I've thought about it. I figured by the time I bought everything I would need to do it I'd have been able to buy a plastic tank on ebay. I'll keep it in mind though.