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[350xBomb]

Hey all, I just picked up a sweet 86' R...got it from a friend of my Dad's and he was the 2nd owner. Bone stock except for pipe and silencer (FMF). Got er for 2k....not too bad. I am mostly familiar with the X's and this will be the first 2 stroke I have owned (well since I was in 7th grade and we had a 250 polaris trailboss but that doesnt count) is there any advice or recommendations that I should be aware of or looking out for. This is totally tits...now I can have the never ending battle of the 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke in my back yard all the time. But we all already know who wins dont we......

[crd00]

My advice to you on your R, keep your maintenance up, thats really all you need to know

[Yamaha Tri-Moto]

Lets see some pics of this beast. :pics:

[OldSchoolin86]

My advice to you on your R, keep your maintenance up, thats really all you need to know
What would you recommend for maintenance?

[crd00]

What would you recommend for maintenance?

Well considering its a 2 stroke, theres more maintenance than a 4 stroke, you have to always being checking and changing the gear oil, go through all the nuts and bolts to make sure they arent loose because of vibration, mixing the gas and checking your tires because the rims tend to spin on the bead of the tire etc etc.

[Kintore]

You should be checking your oil more than a 2 stroker IMO. Yours runs on your oil I hope you check it!.

Loctite, or motors have counter balancers to prevent this. Z's are know for vibes, I have never lost a motor mount bolt. I lost a fender one cause of my own error.

20 year old tires on same rims I sold to OC250r, never once came off the bead.

My razrs have never spun off the bead,
maybe billys 500 cause thats massive power, but any 4 stroke can do that as well, My advice, start reading more and not take things other people say.



Back to your point 350xbomb, congrats on the R you will love it! 2 strokes rule! Just make sure you run pre mix! treat her right she will treat you right!

[OldSchoolin86]

Hey all, I just picked up a sweet 86' R...got it from a friend of my Dad's and he was the 2nd owner. Bone stock except for pipe and silencer (FMF). Got er for 2k....not too bad. I am mostly familiar with the X's and this will be the first 2 stroke I have owned (well since I was in 7th grade and we had a 250 polaris trailboss but that doesnt count) is there any advice or recommendations that I should be aware of or looking out for. This is totally tits...now I can have the never ending battle of the 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke in my back yard all the time. But we all already know who wins dont we......
My best advice is to use a quality 2-stroke pre-mix oil. There are several good ones out there that will without a doubt prolong the life of your machine. Once you pick an oil you like just make sure the jetting is good. Other then that perform all of your normal maintenance you already do for your other machines.

[250r'en +TCB]

My piece of advice is that you must let it warm up for a couple minutes in the winter time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do NOT under any circumstances just hop on and go especially in the winter!!! Those especially cold days that are like 15f or below let it sit for like 5 min!!!

The last thing in the world you want is to cold sieze the engine!!! Many people are clueless to this for some reason.....

[crd00]

I'm not taking things that people say, my buddy had an 83 R and everything that I stated he had to do, I dont know if there was something majorly wrong with it but thats what happened. Every bolt would rattle out of it and he was steadily putting seal stuff around the bead of the tire because the rim would spin inside it. He always had to be checking the gear oil too because the chain came off the back sprocket and jammed into the gear box case so if you check your gear oil all the time and its low then you just might have a hole in your gearbox, thats what I said that and he was talking to people at the honda dealership and they said he had to change the gear oil in it every couple of runs. And obvously kintore I check my oil all the time:rolleyes:

[OldSchoolin86]

I'm not taking things that people say, my buddy had an 83 R and everything that I stated he had to do, I dont know if there was something majorly wrong with it but thats what happened. Every bolt would rattle out of it and he was steadily putting seal stuff around the bead of the tire because the rim would spin inside it. He always had to be checking the gear oil too because the chain came off the back sprocket and jammed into the gear box case so if you check your gear oil all the time and its low then you just might have a hole in your gearbox, thats what I said that and he was talking to people at the honda dealership and they said he had to change the gear oil in it every couple of runs. And obvously kintore I check my oil all the time:rolleyes:
Sorry my friend, he has a poor engine, you shouldn't be having that many problems.

[crd00]

You are right, he did, the motor blew in it 2 days later then he replaced it with a brand new weisco kit and sold it. Then the guy that bought it blew it up that same day. The gears in the bottom of the motor were chewed up and no one knew:lol:

[Lomax]

Here's how I keep mine up
I change the gear oil about 7-10 tanks of gas, I use Bel-Ray 80 gear saver and it still looks well when it comes out
Good Premix I average 40-1 with Castor 927. People argue back and forth on whatr mix is better so pick your own, thats my preference.
Compression. I like to check mine every 2 tanks of fuel. Its still great and will likley not need any attention for a long time but I check it anyway
Warm up time. The machine needs to warm up for a while whether its cold out or not. I usually crank mine, then put my hand on the back (near your right leg) of the expansion chamber, when it feels really warm, then i rev it a little, then take off. I stay easy for about another minute, then let it rip.
Last, purchase a case saver, there only 5-10 bucks and can save you a bundle. The clutch actuating arm goes into the left engine case right in front of the contershaft sprocket. If the chain snaps it can knock this setup right off the case, Not cheap, easy, or fun to fix.
-Will

[Dammit!]

Good advice from everyone on the warm up. Everybody with a 2-stroke should be doing this. I always start mine, let it idle while I'm getting my gear on, then take it easy for a couple minutes when I first take off.

1986 R's don't vibrate bad at all. A little loctite here and there and making sure you torque to spec and you'll be fine.

[350xBomb]

Thanks for the help...I like the case saver idea...anything to prevent a headache later.