What is happening with trikes right now?

[ATCGENIUS]

I have heard from more than one source that 3 wheelers(all makes) are being slowly squeezed out of the existence. Here in TEXAS, the shops can't even work on 3 wheelers anymore. so that is now of course dealerships and bike shops, so is this a problem around other states? if they keep passing laws that keep people from having them fixed, then the problem of ATC's just go away. so they are slowly squeezing atc's out of the picture by attrition and not by more laws. :wondering

[Trimoto175]

yeah right now they are trying to completely ban three wheelers, well that is my understanding from the document anyways. If you do a search on here for CPSC you'll find some threads with the links to the goverment document that explains it all in detail. I'm writing a paper for college right now over it and it really pisses me off.. someone else said it on here and I totally agree with them: They'll have to pry my cold dead fingers from my handlebars if they want my trike. If I only knew what I could do to try to help stop this I would be on it in a second !!!

[ATCGENIUS]

thanks for the info, but are you saying they are going come pick up the trikes at our homes? this is the first i have heard of this.

[thefox]

Where have you heard that from? I doubt it is laws that keep shops from working on trikes. Try bringing any 20+ year old machine into a motorcycle dealer and the majority of them won't want to work on them.

[atctim]

was there really a "law" passed in Texas that said shops can not work on ATCs? I'd like to see proof of that. I would rather say it is probably stubborn dealerships that just plain don't want to work on them.

I really doubt they will ever be "banned" or "Outlawed". From reading the above mentioned threads - I can find no solid evidence that they will be illegal. They are just trying to pass law that says you can not manufacture them anymore (which is pointing at the China made minis). Find me evidence of them trying do do away with JUST ATC's and not some other form of ATVs as well.

[ATCGENIUS]

i was being a little over the top, i don't believe it is a law yet, but dealerships have always not been able to work on atc's since the ban(honda anyway). but now my friend owns a cycle shop here in texas was told to get the 3 wheelers out of the shop, insurance pressured him because of lawsuits, but he told me it is coming down from texas law that no ESTABLISHED cycle shop can work on them. now you will be able to work on them yourselves, and keep riding, but this is the first i have heard of a total ban on trikes. there is a lot of people that don't work on their own stuff, so their trikes are going to be basically dead.

[Sargon2112]

Hi guys

Here's a story from the southeast. I'm in the mountains of SC (yes, we have mountains!)... in the north-western corner of the state. Anyhoo, of the few public areas that 'allow' ATV's around here, there are now signs that strictly prohibit three wheelers. The same trails / roads that allow 4 wheeler traffic have these "no three-wheelers" signs on them. The signs have been up for about 2 years now. IF caught on these trails on a trike, you will be fined anywhere from 120.00 up... The same penalty as being behind a locked / gated trail or road.

Sad ain't it!? I guess the local Game Warden must have got his arse waxed by a trike one too many times!

Seriously though, it is getting progressively worse around here and I'm sure it's the same in most places.

The way they will 'ban' trikes is by prohibiting them like this. Sure, you can own it and ride it on private land, but all these pansy safety freaks will pressure all the designated riding areas into prohibiting our beloved trikes. Well all have to "pirate ride" at midnight like I already do... get your lights working guys!!

[ATCGENIUS]

so far it has not gotten to that point in texas, but i see the writing on the wall. if it is happening to you, then in time, it will happen to us to. thanks for your reply, i am trying to get all the info i can right now.

[ScottZJ]

Currently there arent any "laws" out there, its more like regulations that land owners, shop owners try to force. What I say do is tell EVERYONE you can not to ever shop at that dealer EVER again. Word of mouth is very powerful and could hurt them really bad. In fact the 3 wheeler "ban" as many call it has expired. Its truely sad that all the problems and issues the United States have, and they have to waste time dealing with 3 wheelers. Lets waste 4 million dollars to out law or push those with trikes but yet lets not clean up the streets of crime and drugs. Can you say hmmm wonder what this world is going to be like in the future.

[Darius1502]

ATC Genius,

What part of Texas are you from...I am in Houston.

Some dealers will work on them...others wont. I don't want any dumb dealer touching my trike for $120 per hour.

I can do it all anyway and if I need something done...(like pressing in a bearing...then maybe).

[Sargon2112]

ATC Genius,

I will snap a pic of one of these **** signs and post it within the next day or so.

[SYKO]

hmm.. thats intresting here in GA i havnt ran into any problems like that, also most of the dealers around here like my Trike, but like many others I would work on mine beforetaking it to a dealer and face there killer service rates

[ATCGENIUS]

I am right next to you, beaumont tx-90 miles. i don't have any of my work done from shops either, noone is going to do the job as good as i can and i have seen how they work on stuff in shops. i was talking for the masses of people that just want to sit and ride and not touch the bike. but that is great that there are still shops in houston working on trikes, so far i don't believe there is anyone working on trikes in this area, except for the guy working out of his garage. i have just picked up a 84 200s for $150, in great shape, but the guy could not get it worked on and he did not know what to do. i fixed it in a minute and it is my wife's favorite trike right now.

[ATCGENIUS]

sargon 2112, thanks for getting the pic, i can't wait to see it. that is crazy that 4 wheelers can ride the trails and only 3 wheelers can't. really sad.

[BigGreenMachine]

I don't take mine to any dealer. I can do all the work myself and don't want some lacky joyriding on my machine.

[TimSr]

Where have you heard that from? I doubt it is laws that keep shops from working on trikes. Try bringing any 20+ year old machine into a motorcycle dealer and the majority of them won't want to work on them.

You hit it on the nose. There is no mass conspiracy. There arent enough trikes still operating to even register on the lawmaker's radar screens in most cases these days. We are riding antiques that are phasing themselves out of existance. No new laws are necessary to do that. Dealers dont like to work on antiques for a number of valid reasons. Take your classic antique car into a modern car dealership and youll find they wont work it either. Yes, there are excpetions. Exceptions are not the norm.

[edog]

ATC Genius,

What part of Texas are you from...I am in Houston.

Some dealers will work on them...others wont. I don't want any dumb dealer touching my trike for $120 per hour.

I can do it all anyway and if I need something done...(like pressing in a bearing...then maybe).


Texas atv shops are ripping you off at those prices.

[Yamahondaman]

Texas atv shops are ripping you off at those prices.
they do it !!! BUT................. NOT TO ME !!!
down here in Florida NOBODY is gonna "GIT" My Rag !!!
in the past "they " got em and they Burnt em up............. NOT NOW !! :naughty:

[TravEX]

Sargon, waiting to see the pic. Is this at an ATV park? or private land?

If it is a public place, I would like to have their #, to call and tell them "I'm gonna be visiting the area and have 3 wheelers, can I ride there?" and see what they say. Maybe they might changes their mind if they got 100 phone calls from 'possible tourists' (revenue) that changed their vacation plans because of their ban.

I wouldn't call them to be difficult or rude, just wanna hear their explanation.

Travis

[ATC-Eric]

I dont like taken my machines in. My preference, is to take the individual piece I need worked on.

You could do that in Texas. If it needs work, pull the part, and take it in.

They cant say your part is from a threewheeler, because there is no way to prove. A lot of these trike parts are interchangible to quads.

[scooterroo]

come to new york, its getting impossible to even ride a quad here in the eastern part. the d.e.c is out in avengence closing trails and posting land. it sucks, have to be an outlaw every now and again just to ride onland that you were once able to ride with out a care in the world.

[kingdeacon]

cant belive your crazy country! you can have guns there but not trikes? did somebody high up lose a son on one or something? got to be a reason to why they hate them so much

[ATCwithdrawals]

You hit it on the nose. There is no mass conspiracy. There arent enough trikes still operating to even register on the lawmaker's radar screens in most cases these days. We are riding antiques that are phasing themselves out of existance. No new laws are necessary to do that. Dealers dont like to work on antiques for a number of valid reasons. Take your classic antique car into a modern car dealership and youll find they wont work it either. Yes, there are excpetions. Exceptions are not the norm.


Timsr is right, several dealerships told me that they prefer not to work on a three wheeler for a customer for the simple reason that if the bikes value was say $200 for a 110 and the customer wanted them to put new axle bearings and brakes on it , and they do and notify the customer that its done and the bill is $150 and the customer never goes to pay and pick it up then the dealer is stuck with a trike that is not worth $350 so the lose money.

[ATC_MAN]

Timsr is right, several dealerships told me that they prefer not to work on a three wheeler for a customer for the simple reason that if the bikes value was say $200 for a 110 and the customer wanted them to put new axle bearings and brakes on it , and they do and notify the customer that its done and the bill is $150 and the customer never goes to pay and pick it up then the dealer is stuck with a trike that is not worth $350 so the lose money.

any atv dealership i have been to tells you the price of what your repair will cost before you even bring it in, or at least an estimate

[twgranger]

come to new york, its getting impossible to even ride a quad here in the eastern part. the d.e.c is out in avengence closing trails and posting land. it sucks, have to be an outlaw every now and again just to ride onland that you were once able to ride with out a care in the world.I hear you. Same *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* is going on here too. :crazy:

[84honda200s]

come to new york, its getting impossible to even ride a quad here in the eastern part. the d.e.c is out in avengence closing trails and posting land. it sucks, have to be an outlaw every now and again just to ride onland that you were once able to ride with out a care in the world.




hey man its not just in eastern ny. over near me its just as bad. its so bad where i ride we ride at night. when we see lights we do what we call a "ghost" ride. thats when we kill the light on our trikes and let off the gas. we get lucky enough not to be seen. one time we got cought in a creek. but it didnt stick because the (goverment owns all creeks and any normal point to witch the water rises too). thats what a judge said so we got off with nothing not even a warning. now we ride the creek all the time because its the only place we can ride.

[ClayW]

Its no big deal in GA. Some dealers will require you to pay for repairs up front. This guarentees that your not going to walk when they call and say Oh.... $350 for the repairs. They you say ahhhhhh...... K. .... And never show up. LOL. Mean time they have it torn down and time invested. I will say that trike prices seemed to have tanked. Im glad I unloaded my cherry ones a few months back.

[threewheelin-feelin]

well here in virginia and north carlino i have had no problem with my 3wheeler.... MR. T'S hunt club,slades,and busco beach all allow 3wheelers on there tracks and trails...busco beach even had there atv girl pose on a 350x....and slades allows 3wheelers in the races they have there.

[84honda200s]

you guys are lucky

[SPD FRK]

If I ever make my millions I'll open a trike only riding area.
Anyone caught with anything else will have to watch it burn. Ya Ya I know its illegal but come on. A few idiots running the show and deciding whats right for us. BS!
the fact is, a bunch of lawsuits in the US ruined it for the rest of the world.
I have alot of american friends so please dont take this the wrong way but the american influence really has to end and soon.

[russell56443]

Well so far here in Minnesota we can still get parts at Brothers Motor sports ect.. for any 3 wheeler but you cant ride your wheeler to the trails by Fort Ripley,the short way since the Cushing Township road Nazis outlawed ATV's on the road(In the middle of BFE)Gimmie a break!!
Were going to go out of our way to take my 4x4 F250 SD and My GF son's Z71 down that road every time we go to town and give it hell and then go to the next town meeting and ask why the roads arnt any beter since they outlawed ATV's!!!!!!

[TravEX]

A few idiots running the show and deciding whats right for us. BS!
the fact is, a bunch of lawsuits in the US ruined it for the rest of the world.
I have alot of american friends so please dont take this the wrong way but the american influence really has to end and soon.


As Robert D Raiford on The Big Show says, "We live in the land of the offended."

[Lomax]

. Here in TEXAS, the shops can't even work on 3 wheelers anymore. so that is now of course dealerships and bike shops,

Im in Texas, I own a shop and I will, (and usually prefer) work on any ATC you bring through my door. There is no law against it. Its actually somewhat the dealers choice I believe

[Sargon2112]

TravEx,

This is public land... Game Management. It is open for ATV use seasonally from September 15 thru January 1 on designated roads only. Three Wheelers excluded though like I said... no three wheelers any time. There are many reasons this is happening in this area in particular. They are even starting to restrict Mountain Biking... yes, mountian biking. Here's is a link to a mountain biking forum discussing this same subject on the same land. A mountain biker wrote the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources (SCDNR) regarding the banning of mountain bikes on one particular area on this land and posted her letters and the responses she received.

Read the DNR responses and you'll see just how utterly ridiculous it really is and you'll see just what kind of people "we" (as riders of anything that isn't easily taxed) are up against. It is impossible to have a disciplined, intelligent conversation with these morons. They know they will loose any disciplined, logical debate over the issue, so they resort to the BS that you'll see at this link.

Here's the link:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78067&highlight=table+rock

Pics of the signs coming soon as the rain stops here...

[gotballs 250r 82]

Work on your own bike you would be better off. And it is cheaper

[ATC-Eric]

TravEx,

This is public land... Game Management. It is open for ATV use seasonally from September 15 thru January 1 on designated roads only. Three Wheelers excluded though like I said... no three wheelers any time. There are many reasons this is happening in this area in particular. They are even starting to restrict Mountain Biking... yes, mountian biking. Here's is a link to a mountain biking forum discussing this same subject on the same land. A mountain biker wrote the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources (SCDNR) regarding the banning of mountain bikes on one particular area on this land and posted her letters and the responses she received.

Read the DNR responses and you'll see just how utterly ridiculous it really is and you'll see just what kind of people "we" (as riders of anything that isn't easily taxed) are up against. It is impossible to have a disciplined, intelligent conversation with these morons. They know they will loose any disciplined, logical debate over the issue, so they resort to the BS that you'll see at this link.

Here's the link:

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=78067&highlight=table+rock

Pics of the signs coming soon as the rain stops here...


You know, I can understand how SOME places have banned atv riding, but mountain bikes?

Disclosure:

I dont agree with the banning of ATV terrain, or the frequency, I just understand how some locations would not want them anymore. It still frustraits me.

[Sargon2112]

I agree ATC Eric, there are some places that should be restricted and preserved without a doubt. I am an avid hiker, mountain biker and "triker". Lots of the places I hike are restricted to vehicles, as they should be and I'm glad for it.

As it stands right now in SC, there are a very small few "riding parks" at all. The ones we do have suck to be quite honest and the public areas are nothing but gravel roads that your average mini-van would not have a problem on. As far as I know, the only way you can legally ride a trike in SC is on private land. The designated places prohibit them.

To ride my trike legally, I load up and go to NC since they still have some decent, trike-friendly places.

As for repair work, ect., I too do all of my own work. I'm not paying someone to work on my stuff when I can do it.

[Sargon2112]

Here's the pic of the no trikes sign... Sorry it took so long. I finally just went up ther ein the rain lol.

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33404&stc=1&d=1158962804