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bigreddaddy
10-07-2006, 11:30 AM
The other day we push started the ATC110(1980) and got it running. It would only shift DOWN to go through the gears. Neutral was all the way UP.
In a previous post I was told it was probably a broken Pawl. Well when we finally got the cover off the pawl was fine. But the clutch spring was just in the cover rolling around like it came out or just wasn't installed properly.
My question is since the clutch apparently wasn't working right, would this cause the backwards shifting we were having? Or could there be something else thats not assembled right?
This engine is supposed to have a rebuilt top end, and when we pulled the right side cover off everything looks new, gears, shift arm, clutch, etc. or I guess since its always oiled maybe they all look this way?
I ordered a new gasket and will buy new bolts, REAL BOLTS not the damn phillip head bolts that we had to drill to get them out.
By the way, this shifting pattern was in LOW. When in HIGH it would shift into ONE gear and was a real pain getting it back in neutral.
Any ATC110 tranny experts out there?

EDIT: By the way it would only run for a couple of minutes then quit. So the shifting was mainly done when the engine wasn't running.
team-red-rider
10-07-2006, 12:40 PM
the 1980-1984 isALL DOWN shifting!!
WIkid500
10-07-2006, 01:37 PM
the 1980-1984 isALL DOWN shifting!!




LOL yep auto clutch hondas are all down, W/ neutral all the way up.

My Yammi is all up, w/ neutral all the way down
bigreddaddy
10-07-2006, 03:24 PM
You got to be kidding! I was told they were just like a bike! I even posted this in another thread where I was told about the shift pawl.LOL.
Well, thanks guys. I feel pretty stupid right now:drool: but at lease I know there isn't a BIG problem.
team-red-rider
10-07-2006, 03:46 PM
not ALL HONDA AUTOS ARE the 1985 and beyond and the all the way down is neutral
tyman
10-07-2006, 04:09 PM
yeah.. i've got a 85 honda 110 and its all up, neutral down.. and a 83 (i think) 125m that shifts all down, neutral up....
bigreddaddy
10-07-2006, 04:26 PM
Yeah every ATC I've had, 250R, 200X, 185S, and my current 250ES, were all either 1st down then all up, or just all up. I've never had one where neutral was all the way up and you shift down. Until now.
Levithan
10-07-2006, 04:45 PM
yea, the 200s is like that. 5 down, top is neutral.
ATC-Eric
10-07-2006, 05:48 PM
Yeah every ATC I've had, 250R, 200X, 185S, and my current 250ES, were all either 1st down then all up, or just all up. I've never had one where neutral was all the way up and you shift down. Until now.


Your 185s had neutral down?
bigreddaddy
10-07-2006, 07:33 PM
Well it was my best friends when we were teenagers. I'm pretty sure it was neutral down and all gears up. It was a long time ago so I could be wrong.